The FCC had been meeting with lobbyists for the telecoms, broadcasters and Internet giants like Google for the past week, trying to accommodate them in selling out the Internet. This only worked in getting net neutrality activists to recognize what a disaster was looming in just a few short weeks. Free Press and others engaged the FCC directly with a variety of methods.
Today, we learn that the FCC has called off the backroom meetings. This is their statement:
Statement by Edward Lazarus, FCC Chief of Staff, on recent round of stakeholder discussions: “We have called off this round of stakeholder discussions. It has been productive on several fronts, but has not generated a robust framework to preserve the openness and freedom of the Internet – one that drives innovation, investment, free speech, and consumer choice. All options remain on the table as we continue to seek broad input on this vital issue.”
This could mean nothing at all – perhaps just an indication that Verizon and Google are working on their own and don’t really need the FCC, and if the regulator chooses not to reclassify and regulate in this area, then the big stakeholders will get their way. It’s good that they won’t be codifying this into the regulatory apparatus, rather than announcing a joint agreement.
But this whole fight is about the meaning of “the openness and freedom of the Internet,” and all that implies. It could mean what it has historically meant online, or it could mean what Google and Verizon appear to want it to mean. That’s the choice. So the work isn’t done here.
Meanwhile, Alan Grayson tries to explain his siding with the telecoms on this issue by saying that the regulatory apparatus won’t work and that Congress should pass a statute.
So why does Grayson, a progressive champion, oppose allowing the FCC to regulate the Internet and implement net neutrality rules? The Orlando Democrat says that he is in favor of net neutrality and that his alliance with the telecom industry is a coincidental case of “strange bedfellows.”
“I say in the letter that I support the policy of net neutrality. I don’t know how I could be more explicit than that,” he told HuffPost. “There is a question, though, of how to reach that conclusion, and it’s a legitimate question. My own feeling is that we should not allow a matter like this to be resolved by regulation, because regulations can be changed very easily. We saw this all the time with the Bush administration. I think it is preferable to have the principle of net neutrality enshrined in statute.” [...]
Grayson may be the only advocate of net neutrality who thinks that positive action is possible in this Congress or the next. “I don’t see any reason to think that won’t happen soon,” Grayson said of congressional action on net neutrality. “This is obviously a matter with a lot of attention. I don’t think [Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry] Waxman or [Communications, Technology and the Internet Subcommittee Chairman Rick] Boucher have ever said they regard this as anything other than a high priority. So I don’t see why we need to make this choice. I regard it as a false choice.”
That’s just too clever by half. It’s not exactly easy to move things through the United States Congress. Furthermore, the FCC has everything they need statutorily to engage in regulation in this area, through the 1996 Telecommunications Act and the 2005 Supreme Court decision that the FCC could classify broadband as a telecommunications service. As Marvin Ammori says in the piece: “It sounds like they’re unwilling to change regulations because they’re worried Republicans will change them back… It just highlights that Republicans are willing to change the law and Democrats aren’t.”
By the way, Republicans can – and have planned to – change statutes back when they regain power, too.




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With regard to Rep. Grayson: Another one bites the dust. Another one gone, another one gone. Another one bites the dust.
Why doesn’t HuffPo publish Grayson’s full statement. I find it very hard to believe that Grayson said the telcos support net neutrality without qualifying it.
I guess it’s possible Grayson has sold us out because of his history in the VOIP industry. But remember the VOIP industry, Google, and Free Press were on the “net neutrality” side of the FCC negotiations, while the carriers were on the other side.
Anyway Marvin Ammori of Free Press, who is quoted in the HuffPo article has long claimed the net neutrality negotiations are doomed. So pending more information Grayson’s decision to try congressional action, or at least threaten congressional action, seem eminently reasonable.
Incidentally Ammori’s blog ( http://ammori.org/ )is very good.
Sounds like they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar to me.
Thanks David for another good read on this topic.
As to Grayson, he flopped on HCR . . . . he’s not to be trusted, nor are any of them elected offals that the telco’s bought to craft favorable legislation in THEIR favor.
Just say no to Grayson!
A corporatist in sheeple’s clothing.
Yeah, and they’ll get their little dainty wrists and paws slapped daintily, too, I bet, with a STRONGLY worded letter from someone.
Just a wild guess here but could it be large “campaign” contributions?
Why are robust frameworks needed to preserve the status quo? Why are other options on the table? Why is this even open to discussion, let alone limiting ‘stakeholders’ to big corps?
Good question, in this post-Citizens-United era:
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=2010&cid=N00028418&type=I
I guess that’s a “no” then. Maybe he’s just bucking for a contribution or making a deal for a future one.
I was SHOCKED, I tell you, SHOCKED that Grayson turned turncoat.
Any one know the status of that sneaky bill Leibermannn and somebody else tried to pass granting the “president” the right to shut down the internet in time of “national emergency?…just when it would be needed the most, I figure.
A further question; why is everything this administration does “behind closed doors”?
Why is the FCC negotiating with these companies?
There the ones that make the rules.
Wouldn’t the destruction of net neutrality be great?
Imagine BP being able to pay ISPs to limit speeds of people who criticize them and limit access to their webpages. Imagine BP having the power to silence any news site that criticizes them.
BP would make the oil spill disappear because noone would be able to ****ing hear about it!!!!
Last month in North Carolina, Time-Warner’s and AT&T’s attempt to get legislation ‘on the table’ to thwart net neutrality by laying privileged claim to broadband service, never got out of committee. (At FreePress’s urging, I wrote original letters to the state senators on the committee before they took it up. They postponed the hearing. Later they let it die. I wrote another letter thanking the senators.) Yet coincidentally, President Obama issued his wish-for-it-in-one-hand, wish-for-shit-in-the-other-and-see-which-you-get-first statement about getting broadband to every community and household.
I thought the Internet is simply the network of computers connected via servers. How does the so-called loss of ‘net neutrality’ alter access and speed? I don’t understand any of that. But if ‘net neutrality’ would affect proprietary browsers, and the protocols for the World Wide Web, like , I can understand.
The telecoms are shvitzing because of the inevitable ubiquity of WiFi. They’ve seen landline telephone accounts disappear as users in droves have transferred their phone carriage to their wireless mobile devices.
Maybe (probably?) eventually the Supreme Court will allow ordinary folks to logon to anyone they want, and all that’s needed is a kind and generous philanthropist who will provide the broadband roots, routes, and routers.
WIll someone who knows please explain why we need the big telecoms at all for Internet connectivity?
Sites critical of corps could get their traffic throttled, small sites get squeezed out in favor of megacorps. Dial up connection speed for regular sites while we get the same old speed for youtube google etc.
Imagine killing wikileaks by telling them americans can access the site if assange pays a million a year. They could legally kill it.
No, I think his business connections &/or loyalties may explain his response rather than looking purely [face value] at his campaign funds.
IDT CORPORATION PAC (‘IDT PAC’)
http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/com_supopp/C00367383/
P.S. Remembering these business and special-interest individuals have the connections & ability to bundle a *sh*tload* of money if the candidate decides (and proves) to play ball.
Yes, I understand what the big ISP’s want to do with ‘throttling’ or rationing the download/upload speeds.
They already ration those speeds wherever they offer fiber optic with Internet/telephony/digital television, both at POS and in their pricing for bundling. Other ISP deliveries currently ‘ration’ the access speeds among the many or few users connected to the same node.
Are you saying the only alternative to the extant telecoms is dialup?
Who do universities use to connect?
Net neutrality is already as good as dead. Time-Warner-AOL has introduced “Turbo.” See:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/SanAntonio/site.faqs/HighSpeedO/HighSpeedO/What-is-Road-Runner-Turbo
My prediction is that Turbo will continue to increase in speed at the expense of bandwidth for those who cannot or will not pay the extra money for the speed enhancement.
When net neutrality falls they can make exclusive deals and impose their own conditions on servers.
They might tell people running a anti big corp server owner that they’d have to pay more in bandwidth costs than someone they find favorable making it easier to access people they like and impossible to access people critical of them, effectively silencing them.
Sure a site critical of the new verizon phone can exist but a deal with verizon and a number of isps can make that site impossible to access or too expensive to maintain.
It will lead to a corporate stranglehold of what we can access and what we can’t effectively silencing all dissent to each isps preferred position.
By analogy: In my region, Time-Warner Cable removed C-SPAN2 from its basic cable transmission (along with another cable channel). Basic cable is included in my rent where I live, and it’s all I want, just the way it comes out of the coaxial cable from the two wall outlets. Local stations that broadcast in high-definition are transmitted in high-definition over the cable (there are many, including 5 or 6 PBS affiliates, NBC, CBS, ABC, and FOX). For any other cable-only high-definition channels, I would need to lease a set-top tuner from Time-Warner (which would cost me around $20 a month.
C-SPAN2 is now only available with a set-top tuner; however, Time-Warner will let me have their set-top tuner, which will only receive C-SPAN2 and that other channel unscrambled, for one year without charge. I can watch C-SPAN2 on the Internet, so I won’t ask Time-Warner for their set-top tuner, unless, of course it comes with a pair of lips so they can kiss my ass.
They could end torrenting by making it too expensive to use where people would have to pay hundreds of dollars for the “permission” to use something that was free before.
Are you saying that there aren’t any lawyers good enough who could argue censorship and discrimination, considering the ISPs are using government licensure to operate?
Net neutrality keeps them from imposing data discrimination.
Net neutrality forces them to treat every bit of data equally…but if it’s gone they can make bittorrent too expensive to use and discriminate against certain types of data and content providers.
It would effect people like graphic designers who upload and download big fat files.
Because they want to make site like these or mine pay for faster load speeds, that’s why.
WE created this thing and, of course, they see another cash cow. And Mr. Obama is a liar extraordinaire.
Gods! I hope we can get out of this corporatist pickle!
Hell BUY one on ebay
It would also affect gamers and the gaming industry.
If they screw mmo players, entertainment companies like blizzard could go bankrupt if their subscribers can no longer afford the gaming tier and their subscription at the same time so they’d ditch their mmo of choice which could cause the whole industry to collapse.
Video game beta testers would be screwed too.
Want to have your flagship product beta tested so it isn’t crap at launch? Not anymore.
Barack Obomber plays his game where he strong supports something then pretends a slight push from opponents of it is a fatal deathblow and he kills support for it.
He killed the public option/healthcare, financial reform, the jobs bill, climate bill …
Now Barack Obomber is going to kill the internet.
Or moved them to an undisclosed location. Google, Verizon and all the rest understand they can keep changing the venue until the story slips under the waves.
The problem is that the lack of net neutrality will occur case by case for each ISP. It will not meet the criteria for discrimination any more than buying faster connections from Time-Warner is discrimination. The speed differences for those sites that don’t pay the surcharge will occur within the private cable system of the various ISPs – not in the Internet in general. The problem then comes down to the customer and the speed of access to specific sites for specific ISPs. This is a genie that once let loose, will not go back in the bottle very easily because the only current hinderance from investing in source targeting routers is the assurance of a return. Once the infrastructure is in place, because companies like Google make a contribution, the maintenance costs become incremental.
Time-Warner will let me have one for free for one year. I don’t watch TV except for Turner Classic Movies and golf. I wouldn’t have cable if it weren’t included in my rent. I watched enough TV already, and stopped in 1972. It’s all re-runs. Especially during the election cycles.
The health care stuff will always remain open for revision. Don’t kill yourself so soon.
Also diagnosis and proof that the problem is only specific to a given vender and perhaps at a specific time become very tricky. Once the standard for individual site speed discrimination is considered acceptable the number of potential failure points increases to the point of being nearly unmanageable.
Don’t look now, but …
Two years ago, New York’s Attorney General, Andrew Cuomo strong-armed AOL into discontinuing its News Server’s binary file capability. He threatened AOL with subpoena actions. His claims were based on the binaries being used to upload/download child pornography. The part of the Internet at issue is Usenet.
AOL agreed to stop allowing binary files to be uploaded to its Usenet servers. Other ISPs followed AOL’s ‘lead’ and stopped allowing binary files. Very soon, all the major ISPs stopped providing Usenet altogether – it had been included free to their subscribers.
This week, amid anxiety panic over Wikileaks, amid additional reportage about net neutrality – ALERT: YOU MAY NEED TO PLACE YOUR NITROGLYCERIN TAB UNDER YOUR TONGUE – it has been reported that child pornography on the Internet is increasing. I know, passive voice. No one ever names names. Er, names are never named. Oh, sure, DOD was named. Or employees at DOD were singled out.
First that’s completely off topic
Second, Australia put a “child porn filter” on their net.
The secret blacklist that was leaked had a shitload of sites that were blacklisted by that filter that WEREN’T child porn, just things that were politically controversial and against the governments policies so they were blacklisted to protect the children.
A proposed addition to the “child porn filter” were video game sites, sites that sell ma 15 gamesl ike amazon and ebay.
So it went from a cp filter to a filter that aimed to quash topics they thought were distasteful…but they didn’t tell their public, it had to be leaked.
Apparently they want to make it censor more things like video games to “protect the children”.
Politicians start talking about censoring the net to protect the children but then they expand what they censor to other stuff in the blink of an eye.
Now you are welcome to go back on topic.
Okay, back.
Let’s not forget that most members of Congress are enfeebled about computers and know even less about what the Internet is.
Members of Congress are the least-qualified to determine anything about the Internet and how it’s used.
That’s why net neutrality should stay in place.
If net neutrality stays in place the net doesn’t change AT ALL.
The net will be ****ed if net neutrality dies.
Fascism comes to America: in December 2000, five Supreme fascists gave the gangster bush the keys to the white house; in 2004, Republican gangsters flipped seven million Kerry votes into Bush votes on Election night and not a peep was heard out of the corporate media; we have two endless corporatist imperialist colonial twin occupations and more recently, a different set of five Supreme fascists gave corporations the right to pour millions of dollars into our elections. And now corporations are trying to rig the internet to rid themselves of bothersome progressive web sites such as this one by slowing access down to a crawl… Welcome to Fascist America in the 21st century…
That’s one way to look at things. You recall a few weeks ago when Senator Lieberman suggested that the POTUS ought to have an Internet ‘kill switch’, don’t you? Had the SCOTUS in 2000 done nothing, and had Gore won, it’s more than just very likely that the current POTUS would be either Lieberman or a really really vindictive George Bush.
I recall that Keith Olbermann on MSNBC made a loud peep over the Ohio electoral bullshit.
But unlike the 2000 and 2004 elections, this is business; it’s not personal.
If they canceled the meetings, it’s because they have already made their decision.