The Administration’s argument for trying to shut down a public nuisance lawsuit against the nation’s top greenhouse gas emitters is “an industry argument,” according to the co-lead counsel in the case, and has been contradicted by opinions of past Democratic Administrations.
This week, the Solicitor General asked the Supreme Court to vacate a ruling from the Second Circuit Court of Appeals that would have allowed the case, AEP v. Connecticut, to go forward. The ruling would have allowed the case, brought by 8 states, the city of New York and 3 public land trusts, to go forward, and force five of the largest coal-fired power plants in America to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions. The Second Curcuit reinstated the case in September 2009, after an earlier ruling from 2006 threw the case out.
In a brief (pdf) filed yesterday on behalf of the Tennessee Valley Authority, acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal agreed with the defendants, saying that U.S. EPA’s newly finalized regulations on greenhouse gases have displaced that type of common-law claim.
Katyal urged the court to vacate the decision and remand the case to the 2nd Circuit for further proceedings, this time taking into account the administration’s push to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act.
The 2nd Circuit’s decision rested on the assertion that “EPA does not currently regulate carbon dioxide,” but that has since changed. The Obama administration has finalized several regulations in response to the Supreme Court’s 2007 decision in Massachusetts v. EPA, which told the agency to decide whether greenhouse gases were pollutants under the Clean Air Act.
Environmental groups reacted with alarm at the decision by the Obama Administration to side with the polluters (more reaction here and here). Matthew Pawa, the co-lead counsel in the case, said the argument basically boiled down to “Trust us, we’ll get to it, if we happen to get re-elected…. Talk is cheap, it’s enough. Enough hot air.”
One of the two arguments that the Solicitor General made in their brief was that the EPA has changed their policies and made regulatory changes to deal with GHGs. However, Pawa notes that the EPA has not yet made those regulatory changes for existing coal-fired power plants, just for new ones. This case concerns current emitters. “All of the other regulations that EPA has done, on fuel efficiency, on new power plants, everything else is irrelevant,” Pawa told FDL News.
The other argument, which could be more damaging, concerned “prudential standing” and questioned whether the plaintiffs had the legal right to bring the case. That’s even more dangerous and would have all sorts of bad consequences for states and local governments being able to sue.
The ultimate question, well-put in this post by the Constitutional Accountability Center, concerns whether the EPA regulations and public nuisance lawsuits can work in concert or in opposition.
The case at issue is American Electric Power (AEP) v. Connecticut, in which a coalition, led by the State of Connecticut, turned its frustration with Washington’s failure to regulate greenhouse-gas emissions into a common-law nuisance action against several of the nation’s largest electric utilities. Under the nuisance principle—one of the oldest in English common law—a property owner may ask the court to stop a defendant who is interfering with the owner’s enjoyment of his own property and, in some circumstances, to force the defendant to pay damages. In the Connecticut case, the plaintiffs thus sought to persuade the court to order the utility companies to reduce their greenhouse-gas emissions by showing how such gases cause global warming, which in turn was creating increased temperatures, alternating drought and floods, destruction of natural habitats, and corresponding decreases in property values and human health and welfare. [...]
The Second Circuit’s decision relied on the fact that the “EPA does not currently regulate carbon dioxide,” but that has since changed. As Acting Solicitor General Katyal wrote in yesterday’s Supreme Court brief, “Since this court held [in Massachusetts v. EPA] in 2007 that carbon dioxide falls within that regulatory authority, EPA has taken several significant steps toward addressing the very question presented here….That regulatory approach is preferable to what would result if multiple district courts—acting without the benefit of even the most basic statutory guidance—could use common-law nuisance claims to sit as arbiters of scientific and technology-related disputes and de facto regulators of power plants and other sources of pollution both within their districts and nationwide.”
However, this has not always been the prevailing view. During the Carter Administration, the state of Illinois sued the city of Milwaukee for dumping sewage into Lake Michigan. Despite the fact that the EPA had authority over the issue and regulated by issuance of permits, the Carter Administration’s amicus brief supported the right for public nuisance lawsuits in this area as complementary to the EPA’s mission.
Consistent with its overriding responsibility for the environment ( Sanitary District v. United States, 266 U.S. 405, 425-426 (1925)), the United States itself has repeatedly relied upon the federal common law of nuisance in addition to various statutory remedies as part of its efforts to prevent and remedy the pollution of this country’s natural resources [...] Furthermore, given the limited resources of the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Justice, achieving the national goal of “restor[ing] and maintain[ing] the chemical, physical, and biological integrity of the Nation’s waters” (33 U.S.C. 1251(a)) depends in large measure on the continued effectiveness of state and private enforcement actions under appropriate federal statutes, state law, and the federal common law. Accordingly, resolution of the issues posed by this case will have a direct impact on the programmatic and enforcement interests of the United States.
In the brief, written by then-Solicitor General Wade McCree, the public nuisance lawsuit “will not in any way disrupt implementation or administration” of the Environmental Protection Act. Clearly, at the time, the Carter Administration saw those lawsuits as complementary to the EPA’s mission. In fact, McCree wrote that “until such time as Congress acts definitively, the federal common law may well be the only substantial source of protection against interstate pollution.” Since EPA hasn’t yet regulated existing power plants, this is a near-perfect analogue.
The Administration has maintained that they had to act because they needed to step in on behalf of the Tennessee Valley Authority, one of the defendants. But “the TVA is a notorious environmental bad boy,” Pawa said. “Even the EPA has sued the TVA. The Solicitor General is supposed to represent the United States, instead of representing one polluter. The Administration has gone out on a legal limb to help a greenhouse gas polluter. We feel betrayed. Stabbed in the back.”
The plaintiffs need to respond with their own brief by October 4th. The Supreme Court could either refuse to take the case, or remand it back to the 2nd Circuit, taking into account the Solicitor General’s arguments.



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not the change I was hoping for.
I wish this was an aberration, not the norm.
These people expect us to vote for them and for their candidates?
these guys are bad news: the enemies of the people.
This crap makes me miss Nixon.
Seriously. Nixon created the EPA…oh here, EPA explains their history, right on their website:
Now you can say this administration is worse than Nixon’s.
What the hell is going on? I can’t imagine a McCain presidency, even with Alaskan Barbie, would be worse than what Obama has been doing. He has made all of Bush’s outrages just a normal part of doing business in our government. If a Republican was in there, you can be sure the Dems wouldn’t be so willing to go along that same path. Or … maybe they would. Harder and harder to tell anymore.
Withhold your vote this November. Don’t reward bad behavior.
dont stay home.write in yourself, (or your cat) if nothing else is availble. we all need to be counted
What pretzel logic will Obama-defenders come up with to rationalize this?
It isn’t just the greenhouse gasses we should worry about. In addition to CO2, they are emitting plenty of outright toxic substances. You can’t eat the fresh-water fish around here due to mercury contamination that originates from the coal-fired power plants.
But that’s OK because otherwise “jobs would be lost!” if the power company had to scrub the emissions. It’s alright to be slowly poisoned to death as long as some mythical job is protected. The gullibility of the oppressed astounds me.
Better yet, vote third-party or write-in.
Show ‘em that you don’t like either side of the coin.
Ha, Ha!
All we get is the lesser of two evils, so don’t anyone get their hopes up. See, it’s all the Tea-Party’s fault. As long as they have gone over the cliff on the right into total insanity, it give the Dems cover to say, “Hey at least we’re not that crazy, or not that far to the right.” The Democrat platform should be very easy to write. We are left of the GOP/Tea-Party, period, end of platform statement.
So Obama and company, I agree with you, you are the lesser of two evils. But I wont give Obama and friends ONE FUCKING CENT.
Interesting, after all the recent whining over at C&L about how the left isn’t taking to the streets to force Black Hoover to do his job, that he can’t act without cover, the green movement reports that they are hearing this (from the second link above):
The reality is that “we” (the left) and “they” (the democravens) are completely separate. From the link to Orange Satan above:
That sums it up about Black Hoover and his running dog lackeys. Never, never trust what Black Hoover or his lackeys say, ever. Only believe it if you see it. I will only believe the EPA will regulate greenhouse gas admissions when it is actually happening, until then I fully expect a backdoor deal that sells out the left and the goal of reducing our carbon gas emissions.
Lesser of two evils?
One party tells me to my face it wants things I’m totally against.
The other party tells me it wants what I want, then works vigorously behind my back to produce the opposite.
Tell me, which is the lesser of two evils, the party trying to bludgeon me in plain sight, or the party trying to stab me in the back?
The Obama Administration is even more determined than the Bush/Cheney Administration to make sure that no citizens, states, nor any other entities have standing to challenge Executive Branch decisions. They are simply rabid about it. And, coupled with the standing stingy Roberts Court, are going to decimate the rights of the public to use the courts to counter and challenge what the government does in their name. It is an evisceration of avenues of accountability. At the hands of the great “Constitutional Scholar” President.
This administration sure does place a lot of value in Federal laws when it comes to those pesky states exerting their rights but not so much when a foreign company pollutes one of your major food sources–then it is okay to let that foreign corporation make the rules that the Federal government must follow. Makes perfect sense … if you just took some hallucinogens.
Maybe that’s what I’m missing–I’m just not stoned enough yet for this all to make sense.
Scientists worry that EPA officials are dragging their feet because the U.S. Public Health Service has long touted fluoride as a beneficial additive to drinking water, which it is not. Fluorosis is a huge problem
Nope. That didn’t work either. But I don’t seem to care as much so at least there is that …
As fate would have it, Nixon’s Clean Air Act forced coal fire plants to decapitate and dig out mountains in Wyoming for the less-sulfurous coal (than Appalachian) there.
Near Macon, Georgia, there’s Plant Scherer, the biggest coal-fire plant in the Western Hemisphere. (Southerners need a lot of energy to make ice cubes for their Mint Juleps. Oh, and to cool the New South in summer. And spring. And fall. And winter in South Florida.) Plant Scherer was also ranked the 20th in the world in terms of carbon dioxide emissions by the Center for Global Development on its list of global power plants in November 2007. It was the only power plant in the United States that was listed in the world’s top 25 Carbon Dioxide producers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_Scherer
Hmm, where have I heard that theory before?
Fluoride is also an endocrine disruptor. A scary thing, especially if you have kids.
When we last moved, we intentionally chose a community that doesn’t fluoridate the water.
http://www.fluoridation.com/teeth.htm
I think all this retrograde thinking in the WH is indicative of a race to space for the elites. It was predicted; sorta, in the “Left Behind” series of “books” and it makes as much sense as anything else as an explanation for the actions of our government as they help kill the planet.
Plus there was an article several months ago that Obama wants the manned shuttle program scotched and deep space exploration begun instead.
Obama outlines new NASA strategy for deep space exploration
I’ll go get my tinfoil hat now………
Obama fucks the people who voted for him and anyone here is surprised?
Anybody know what SNAFU stands for? It’s Situation Normal All Fucked Up. Perfect description of the Obamination Administration.
It’s one thing to say, “if the President does it, it isn’t illegal”, and another thing entirely to actually implement that policy.
Katyal will be plenty busy carrying out the dictates of his King.
I agree. I haven’t drank tap water since I was a kid and my city hadn’t fluoridated it by the time I stopped drinking it.
I’ve heard it’s a by-product of the pest control industry, so Tom Delay probably had something to do with it. :^)
Obama siding with the corps? I never saw that one coming. /s
There’s fluoride residue in and on just about everything, especially food products. You’re supposed to wash your fruits and vegetables. I’m sure if you wash your tap water, it will be safe to drink.
Fluoride is also part of the chemical make up of some drugs, supposedly because it enhances the drug’s potency. Look for “fluo” somewhere in the name.
Some people still don’t see it.
Make that too damn many people don’t see it.
Obama is either a commie socialist or a misunderstood god.
Make that: Too damn many people don’t see it.
Obama is either a commie socialist or a misunderstood and persecuted god. The ultimate corporate insider? No way!
Sorry, I’m not biting (lol), it looks like an anti-scientific, anti-societal conspiracy theory to me. From Wikipedia:
But from the same Wikipedia article:
In my opinion such anti-scientific selfishness is also behind the anti-vaccination campaign which is putting us all at risk by reducing our “herd” immunity.
You’re not quite correct there- it’s beneficial in the correct amounts.
In sufficient quantity fluoride will kill you and it’s not as much as you might think. The warnings on a tube of toothpaste say it all – pea size amount, don’t swallow, rinse thoroughly, and that’s for adults. Children have died from swallowing fluoride toothpaste.
In smaller amounts it is an endocrine disruptor and affects your body in ways you may not realize, until the effects accumulate. This is especially true when combined with the effect of the other endocrine disruptors we are now routinely exposed to.
So what is the correct amount when you constantly ingest it from your water, food, and drugs?
Fluoride is not a requirement for good dental health, so why take a chance?
Here’s a conspiracy theory: the elites in the 1930′s foisted Social Security on the nation, and then, when the first full wave of retiring beneficiaries were starting to collect their benefits, the elites foisted Medicare on the aging population, knowing full well that most of the Rust Belt retirees would venture to the Southeast and Southwest, where the elites had purchased swamp land and desert sand, respectively, and began building ‘condos’ before the word was even coined, creating a land rush not seen since Oklahoma’s in the early 20th century, building up Florida from Gulf to Coast, from Lauderdale to Canaveral, and inland to Orlando (Disney World! Epcott!), and establishing an infrastructure to die for, attracting millions of Boomers to service all the new communities, making Florida’s population maybe only one week’s time less than New York’s, so Jeb Bush could be the third Bush POTUS, and the fluoride pesticide industry could keep the Everglades pests away from the glowing Evertans, and the recent bubble bust nearly ruined Florida’s housing market, and Arizona’s, but the geezer owners will sell at a ‘net’ loss to the now-poor-and-desperate Boomers who cant afford anything ‘better’ than the decrepit old condos – but they won’t riot.
One unintended consequence of all that manufactured affluence and consent is the higher standard of living everyone achieved, which required impossible amounts of energy to maintain, especially for those plug-in room deodorizers.
(It’s our pollution, no one else’s, and if we’re not willing to pay through the nose to eliminate it, we get to inhale and ingest shit all the time.)
What a dick move, especially with this SCROTUS. Buh bye, (former) Tenth Amendment. No states’ rights for environmental protection and fuck the public nuisance doctrines in states like Pennsylvania and New York. And hell, no, to any federal public nuisance doctrine. Thanks a lot, Vacuous Opportunist. The Way Of The Ford/Harvard Warrior. A monster – he smiles and then bites your head off.
Alright this sudden attack on flouride is freaky. Who has a financial interest in it?
If you want to ingest the stuff, knock yourself out.
I’m sorry. What does the Obama administration stand for again?
I was planning to write-in Jane Hamsher
Reminds me of how the Obama administration claims it has to defend DOMA and DADT in court. Luckily Jerry Brown and the governator disagree and refuse to defend it in court.
Ironically the argument of not having standing to bring the case to court will most likely keep Judge Walkers decision from being reverse at the federal court.
However Obama is trying to use that same argument to promote and defend his rampant corporatism.