A narrow energy bill which Harry Reid scaled back from earlier, more grandiose ambitions is likely to be pushed back until after the midterm elections, said the Senate Majority Leader on a conference call today. However, he did offer renewed hope, for the first time in a while, that the bill could include a renewable energy standard, mandating a percentage of electricity to be generated from renewable sources.
On the call, scheduled in advance of the third annual Clean Energy Summit on September 7 in Las Vegas, Reid went over the history of the energy bill, which initially was a comprehensive plan from John Kerry and others, including a cap and trade system for carbon emissions. “We originally tried to do a bill that John Kerry worked on for 8 or 9 months,” Reid said, but at the end of the process, Kerry and his colleagues found themselves unable to attract Republican support. “We had to step back with something more modest… a more compact bill.” The bill that Reid unveiled before the August recess includes the Home Star energy retrofits for residential properties, inducements for natural gas and electric vehicles, particularly in the trucking fleets, to reduce dependence on oil, and increased money for the Land and Water Conservation Fund, which can go toward any number of land use projects.
Reid said that, while he hoped to keep working on the bill in the period between now and the midterms, “we’re bound to come back in a lame duck session… Maybe after the elections we can get some help from Republicans on these key issues.”
Republicans have already started demanding that nothing of consequence get passed in the lame duck, a drumbeat which would undoubtedly grow louder if they happened to win one or both houses of Congress.
Reid described the current recess as a “time-out period” for the energy bill, to see if enough Senators can come together and pass it before the end of the year. He did offer a glimmer of hope on one piece that concerns environmentalists, however. Asked if the bill could still include a renewable energy standard, Reid said that two GOP Senators have expressed an interest in such a standard, and he would be talking to them next week. I know that Sam Brownback is one of those two; not sure yet on the other.
Of course, Brownback pushed an RES from the Natural Resources Committee version of the bill, which was a painfully weak 15% by 2021. Even Natural Resources Committee Chair Jeff Bingaman thinks that’s too low, and wants to raise it to 20%.
On the prospects of a carbon cap, Reid wasn’t as charitable. “It doesn’t appear so at this stage. It doesn’t have the traction that we wish it has.”
UPDATE: There’s also substantial question about the GOP conception of what gets included in a “renewable energy standard,” including things like nuclear and so-called “clean coal” technology.



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now THAT’s leadership! /s
Best Minority Leader Aspirant EVER!
We need jobs but a lame energy bill won’t create them. Dems need an issue to rally behind that issue could have been jobs Green Jobs, Insulting homes,
Why waste money on natural gas did T Boone Pickens hire some lobbyists? Unless I’m wrong there is no electric vehicle hybrid or battery powered capable of hauling stuff long haul I assume by trucking fleets he means semi and dump trucks.
Is he taking about fuel cells? If so how much cash is he talking about and how do they plan to distribute it.
I got stock in a fuel call company making Semi trucks so this is personal.
How much does the GOP want for their votes:(
The only nice thing that will come out, is that the rich own much coastal property, which will become worthless as the sea level rises.
Inevitably they will want to construct dikes to keep the sea out, dikes paid for by taxation.
LNG burnt in a diesel engine.
There isn’t a day that goes by that I’m not grateful that I don’t live in Nevada and have to choose between Reid and Angle. For what it’s worth Nevadans, you have my sympathy.
No, the cost / reward is still at least 100x better for oil over any other vehicle fuel, especially when you consider you have to get your electric fuel for your car from a coal/nuke plant.
Don’t forget what else they consider renewable energy – biomass. Cut down all the trees, they’ll grow back.
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/64484
My bold how do LNG diesels perform?
Burning methane, ethane or propane in a conventional IC engine is an easy modification.
The only down side to your “nice news” is it will take thousands of years for anyone to notice it. Even the rich will ‘probably’ be dead by then./s
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/67857
Factor in the true expected cost of oil the cost of the Iraq and Afghan wars plus what we expect to spend on foreign oil when we lose the opportunity cost to invest in American fuel cells and hydrogen from water.
Damm I forgot to add in the future expected cost of the Iraq and Afghan wars.
In other news, water is wet and ice is cold.
I expect that whatever energy bill might escape from the Senate will be another useless piece of legislation.
Tell that to the people of Bangladesh. To the people in some of the southern Parrishes of Louisiana. To the Dutch…. I’ve got some news for you Alan: Just because it hasn’t affected YOU yet, doesn’t mean that sea levels aren’t rising.
You might want to talk to UPS, then. They’re using CNG-fueled delivery trucks in at least some cities. There are bus fleets running on CNG, and I’ve seen trash trucks running on it too.
Don’t need Nukes or Coal Denmark is on it:)
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/67857
Please tell me Harry’s bill has plans for at least one Denmark style windpower changing water to hydrogen plant? Or is America going to fall behind again. sob!
We need the government to evaluate the competing tech pick one set up one standard and lower cost with mass production. Ford, GM everyone should build the same kind same sizes of engine so we can lower the cost of the new tech what ever turns out to be the best.
So when do we get details on the bill?
It won’t be a lame duck Congress, it’ll be the dead duck Congress.
Here are the details: tax cuts for the rich and giveaways to the oil industry. Oh and it will be filibustered to death.
I’m glad they found at least one place on earth that this will work. Currently I think TX, CA, and Iowa of all places have the best prospects for wind power. Everyone else?
And I don’t have to factor in the wars in Af and Iraq. That foolishness is on it’s own. We get most of our imported oil from Canada.
No war there.
I thought Cap and Trade was another giveaway to the banks I’m glad thats out. But your point is noted Harry couldn’t pass bills like Healthcare with popular support and bloggers like Jane working 24/7 Congress doing Town hall meetings etc
Just what can we expect Harry to pass in a dead duck session?
Only stuff the Republican minority leader says is ok.
it can be wind, solar, hydro, tidal, geo power They got windmills from Washington state to Minnesota last time I drove from Seattle to Chicago a few years ago. The thing is we can turn water into fuel for cars.
As far as factoring in the costs of the wars yes you do one of the reasons we went to war was cheap gas Iraq had no ties to Ossama. Plus the Natural gas you like Bush wanted a Natural Gas pipeline that did not go through Russia or Iran.
Bangladesh, southern Parrishes of Louisiana?
An earlier poster said this was a nice thing.
Unless Harry agrees to more nuclear power with the U.S Government guaranteeing the loans:(
Rush’s home on the Gulf coast yes the expected loss of land for normal people no.
Just how much energy could be saved again if all roof shingles were white can Harry even deliver on a simple thing like that? I don’t see how the GOP can say No! to that:)
Irrelevant. You said that “it will take thousands of years for anyone to notice it”, which is clearly a pantload as it’s been noticed in low lying areas globally for the last decade. I wasn’t addressing whether it was a “nice” thing or not, merely commenting on your obvious BS.
I know it’s your world view, but this one’s not true.
We’ve never gotten more than 5% of our fuel from Iraq (in good times) and now we get less than 3%.
You’re right. I was commenting on:
Then you irrelevantly added Bangladesh.
I shouldn’t have been baited by you.
Bangladesh is an example of land lost due to sea level rise. Why is that irrelevant? Do you know what the word means?
Good evening all. How was O’s victory lap?
Finished reading the section in Phillips’ section in American Theocracy on U.S. energy ‘policy,’ aka set up military bases all over the world (including invasion, negotiation, bribery, etc., etc.) to protect U.S. hegemony over carbon & the ports & pipelines that deliver it to the U.S. Suggests that in Pentagon Ring E (or wherever the bigwigs are) there is an Oilcom. Works for me! /s
On a less imperialistic tone, one might think that an intelligent country might launch a tech war against carbon, in favor of substitutes. But that would not be the U.S. of A.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/19/bartlett-caught-in-lie/
My worldview comes with quotes and links from news interviews with Bush White House Counselor Dan Barlett being wrong when Laurence Lindsey – President Bush’s senior economic advisor quotes are pointed out.
Your worldview is based on ?
The more oil pumped anywhere in the world the cheaper oil gets around the world or did you forget the rise in gas prices before we invaded Iraq?
Supply and Demand
eli up at fdl
You should read Phillips’ section on carbon energy in the book I mentioned in 32, and then reconsider. Just because the plan didn’t work out, didn’t mean it wasn’t the plan. (Hint: Iraq oil has been kept off the market for 80 years by U.S. & U.K. until U.S. could take it over. It’s the largest untapped pool of oil in the world, that is cheap, easily accessible, & relatively known.)
Just ordered the CIA book you mentioned yesterday at the library might even get it Wednesday:)
Kerry-Boxer like Waxman-Markey in the House was a bill full of loopholes, giveaways, and delayed timelines. It was grossly insufficient to the task of addressing global warming. Now Reid wants something even smaller and less effective. Washington’s only product nowadays seems to be kabuki.
Maybe after the elections we can get some help from Republicans on these key issues.
If I lived in Nevada I’d be voting for Sharron Angle. Seriously. She may be insane, but at least she’s not an idiot.
They don’t even do that well. Kabuki should at least be entertaining.
And batshit-insane is better than idiocy how?
Why?
They didn’t do that for cars, trains, or aircraft.
Speculation that time, not supply and demand. I didn’t expect such an embrace of capitalism. But speculators are probably worse than capitalists.
And because of that we got a government GM bailout, tax payer money going to keep the trains running for decades? how many airline and airline manufacture bailouts or last minute military contract corporate welfare saves all at our the tax payers expense?
I know it’s a bad thing to say here, but I think thay’s a good thing.
That time before the war gas was around $1.50 $1.70 a gallon if your America only gets 5% of its gas theory was right then gas should have only gone up 5% plus inflation.
Watch for specific inclusion of all kinds of maximally destructive boondoggle “renewables” projects in Nevada. Like Carlyle Group wind farms by Great Basin National Park – aka Spring Valley Wind.
Legislating standards without requiring environmental accountability in project siting just spells more permanent losses for bats, birds, and the planet.
We were calling out the housing bubble at FDL the second Greenspan lowered interest rates and Bush started saying ownership society.
Besides I said I was invested in fuel cells up thread.
Agreed T-Boone Pickens wind farm should I expect get some cash.
Many of the Worst Possible Places – already have wind clams staked – to accommodate these folks:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/apr/28/planned-wind-turbine-plant-gathers-gust-momentum/
From her we can look forward to six years of entertainment. From him, not even that.
Agreed. I worry that we’re insulting kabuki…