At yesterday’s press briefing, Robert Gibbs ruled out a new big stimulus package. By last night, the Washington Post reported on a fall jobs package being hashed out by the White House. These two are not in conflict, because the Administration doesn’t want to use the word “stimulus.” And in fact, what they’re proposing, according to Lori Montgomery and Anne Kornblut, is a series of big tax cuts.
Among the options under consideration are a temporary payroll-tax holiday and a permanent extension of the now-expired research-and-development tax credit, which rewards companies that conduct research into new technologies within the United States [...] Policy staffers are debating a range of options. For example, a payroll-tax holiday – a top priority of many business groups – could be applied only to new hires or extended to current employees. It could be limited to small businesses or extended to larger firms.
Permanently extending the research credit would cost roughly $100 billion over the next decade, tax analysts said. And depending on its form and duration, a payroll-tax holiday could cost more than $300 billion. While costing significantly less than last year’s stimulus package, both ideas would be far more dramatic than anything the White House has so far acknowledged considering.
More spending on infrastructure, particularly transportation projects, is also under discussion. But it would be easier for a package composed purely of tax cuts to “avoid the stain of a ‘bailout’ or ‘stimulus’ label,” said one official familiar with the talks, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the deliberations were private.
So, this is something. At least Democrats can point to something, a big September plan, and either force their counterparts into a tough vote, or pass something they think can help the economy.
And yet, this appears designed to mainly attract Republican votes or moderate voters. They want to do an all-tax cut stimulus package while studiously avoiding the word “stimulus.” (Permanent extension of the R&D credit, by the way, was always a policy the White House preferred, so nothing different there.)
You can look at this as a policy or a political document. If you want to do something that can pass, Republicans are probably dug in on an all or mostly-tax cut solution, and would blcok anything else. But they’re not yet even responding favorably to this. If you start from the premise that this won’t pass due to GOP obstructionism, and you get to play Fantasy Legislator, would this be the immediate go-to policy? Maybe from some Third Way perspective. As Paul Krugman says today, if Obama came out for motherhood, Republicans “would declare motherhood un-American.” So why not propose a solution commensurate to the problem, with the most bang for the buck? Why not a $600 billion “Rebuild America” program?
Indeed, it’s not clear from the article whether these policies would even help on their own. A properly devised payroll tax holiday, economists believe, would have a stimulative impact on employment. “In the long-run a payroll tax cut will end in workers wages,” said Dean Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. “This is an article of faith that all economists must swear to before we get our license.”
However, the article suggests that the payroll tax cut would be both temporary and limited to the employer side of the tax, which damages its effectiveness significantly. “This is zero stimulus, it’s just handing money to employers, a bit lower on my priority list than beating my head against the wall until it bleeds,” Baker says. He frets that a business-side tax cut will just put more money on the sidelines, in addition to the $1.6 trillion that businesses have already set aside, without any incentive to hire.
If you accept the premise that Republicans will block anything, there are plenty other options out there, Baker says. “In terms of boosting the economy, they should have some money spent on jobs programs for hard hit areas (e.g. Detroit), a lot of money for aid to the states, a lot of money for rebuilding the infrastructure (focus on rails), money for weatherization, and work share. Tax cuts for moderate income people are fine. Give a 7 percent work credit up to $30k and then freeze it for higher income people.”
These ideas fall in line with what AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka has been suggesting for nearly a year.
In addition to the political/policy divide, there are long-term consequences to dressing up tax cuts as the white knight on a horse to save the day from mass unemployment. The stimulus package, in reality, worked but was too limited to solve the entire problem, as Krugman says today:
The actual lessons of 2009-2010, then, are that scare stories about stimulus are wrong, and that stimulus works when it is applied. But it wasn’t applied on a sufficient scale. And we need another round.
I know that getting that round is unlikely: Republicans and conservative Democrats won’t stand for it. And if, as expected, the G.O.P. wins big in November, this will be widely regarded as a vindication of the anti-stimulus position. Mr. Obama, we’ll be told, moved too far to the left, and his Keynesian economic doctrine was proved wrong.
But politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth. The economic theory behind the Obama stimulus has passed the test of recent events with flying colors; unfortunately, Mr. Obama, for whatever reason — yes, I’m aware that there were political constraints — initially offered a plan that was much too cautious given the scale of the economy’s problems.
If tax cuts get pulled out now, it accepts the GOP premise that tax cuts are the only instrument to aid an economy. It undercuts liberal ideas that have been proven over the past two years. And don’t think it will satiate Republicans, who will now pounce, noting that “the President agrees with us on tax relief” and that “he should extend all the Bush tax cuts if he really wants to help small businesses succeed.” I mean you can just hear this now.
As a policy document, this may reflect reality but may not be properly designed to do much of anything. As a political document, it’s a lead balloon, and a potentially crippling one at that.
UPDATE: Any messing with the payroll tax should come out of general revenue, it goes without saying. This shouldn’t be done as an excuse to weaken the finances of Social Security and Medicare further and serve the needs of the entitlement-cutters.
UPDATE II: The President said in a Rose Garden availability that he would address “a broader package of ideas next week.” He has a news conference on Friday, which could be used for that purpose.



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Sounds like a rather Republican approach to me…
I thought Obama was a Democrat. This pro-business “New Democrat” crap needs to go by the wayside. It’s NOT WORKING. We need a real jobs program.
OMG – an employer only payroll tax cut! Wow, the clarity of their economic vision is truly a thing to behold. The Democrats better find a leader for the party, because it’s pretty clear the Obama administration’s self interest (perceived only by them) is not congruent with the Democratic party’s.
Obama as President can decide who he wants to be and what he wants to stand for, the Democratic party does not have that luxury.
If you don’t have a job, you’re not paying any taxes. It is awfully disappointing to discover that nomatter how you vote you get Republicans in office.
Uh, no.
This really is the definition of policy insanity.
An employer-only tax cut? Remember, the first rule of the Obama administration: ordinary people ARE NEVER to benefit.
More trickle-down bullshit. George Bush never left office.
Can you say pri-mar-y?
You know, if I had wanted a third Clinton term, I’d have voted for Hillary. Now a third Clinton term is looking good (by comparison.)
Since the Republic toady Roberts’ Court ruled that corporations are “persons”, ordinary “persons” will benefit.
My initial reaction here was the same as most commentator here, ‘not more tax cuts’, but looking at the link for the effects of payroll tax cuts that are linked to above, and surprisingly the multiplier for those tax cuts is about as large as for spending on infrastructure, and the effect on jobs can be even larger (especially if the payroll tax cut is only on new jobs). I can get behind Obama on this if this is the jobs bill he wants to push (though it would be better if he gave us both these cuts and the infrastructure spending–high speed rail anyone?).
Right, it depends on the design of the payroll tax holiday.
It does sound very republican as designed. Besides which corporations are making revenues these days and need more tax cuts? Mostly the ones that got bailouts already.
the multiplier impact assumes it goes to workers and not to just the businesses
There is absolutely no evidence that the savings will be passed along to the workers. We’ve been bamboozled by that old saw for the last 20 years. Remember the premise of how improving productivity would result in increased wages and therefore an ever-rising income and growing middle class? Well, instead we are at an historically high, unprecedented level of worker productivity in this country yet the wages have remained stagnant and/or declined while shareholder profits and CEO pay have grown exponentially.
Trusting in the goodness of our corporate overlords to “trickle down” the tax holiday savings to workers is akin to trusting Wall Street with Social Security money. Yeah, we can go there but we will crash and burn in such a big way that the proverbial “nobody could have predicted” that the greedy bastards wouldn’t play by the theoretical goodness rules will kill the Democratic party and progressivism in the US for the foreseeable future.
I’m no sucker — I know better.
Major, major fail.
30 fucking years of tax cuts is what got us exactly where we are. They are ALL insane. Trickle down is a fucking lie of the class wars.
I swear, if they RENEW the Bush tax cuts so the Blue Dogs can be republics … and people WHO DON’T GET THOSE TAX CUTS vote on that basis, we are just done for. Kaput.
Obama wants to cut Social Security but business gets a tax cut?
Mr President what if any guarantee do we have that business will hire if there is no consumer demand?
Business only hires if they have a product that will sell.
Any guarantee that the bosses will ever pass on the profits if any they get back to the workers to create more consumer demand?
Any bets Unions and good paying people will be let go and then rehired at lower wages while big business gets the tax credit?
I think this guy is fucking scared shitless about what’s going to happen to him after the Ds lose the House. He’s trying to buy off the bullies.
He doesn’t look scared to me. At all. He’s got a whole different take.
Payroll tax holidays (obviously, depending on structure and duration) can be very positive, because they amount to a 6.2% raise to every worker, starting with the very next paycheck. The money goes right into the economy.
An unfortunate side-effect is that such a plan would produce a re-bound becoming visible about January, 2011, and continuing to some extent thereafter, such that the Repubs newly in office would be taking credit, and claiming validated authority for other issues, such that they are very well set up for 2012 (notwithstanding whatever nuttiness they bring to the scene in the meantime).
The ole trickle down. Great idea. Too bad it’s never worked. Is anyone ready to support a primary challenger to Mr. Bipartisan yet?
I.E., it’s another dose of the perfect Obama Fail.
That may be. He may still expect the bullies to let him be a successful president. But it ain’t going to happen. This is a classic case of meeting the bullies more than half way, hoping that they won’t beat the shit out of you. Never works with thugs.
Even if he is indeed one of them, as many on this blog believe, or wants to be, they will not — cannot — let him succeed.
Less tax revenues for Social Security too. I can see right thru them
Obama’s got his white house, his wife and his girls. He’s not scared of anyone. He’s Mr. Freeze.
OT but I heard on NPR that an Israeli newspaper described Obama of having the “diplomatic insight of Neville Chamberlain on acid.” He’s certainly shown a penchant for appeasement.
That, and a nickel, babe.
No way is it going to be an employer side-only tax holiday. That’s well-known to be ridiculously slow and unreliable. It’ll be employee side-only, or both, because the benefits are fast and real. See my comment at #21 above.
How many of these companies have received tax breaks in the past ten years and now have laid off millions of people?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/01/ceo-pay-layoffs_n_701908.html
Ivan Seidenburg, Verizon – laid off 21,308/year since 2008
Louis Chenevert, United Technologies, laid off 13,290/year since 2008
Alan Mulally, Ford, laid off 4,700 a year since 2008
Mike Duke, Walmart, laid off 13,350 a year since 2008
Randall Stephenson, ATT, laid off 12,300 a year since 2008
Sam Palmisano, IBM, laid off 7800 ayear since 2008
Rovert Iger, Disney, laid off 3400 a year since 2008
Mark Hurd, Hewlett Packard, laid off 6400 a year since 2008
William Weldon, Johnson and Johnson, laid off 8900 a year since 2008
Fred Hassan, Schering-Plough, laid off 16000, a year since 2008 (yes, there was a merger there, but people still lost their jobs)
All of these companies and many many more have made huge use of tax breaks over the past 30 years, sent jobs overseas by the tens of thousands, and now have laid off millions of Americans.
And the Administration thinks that giving them MORE tax breaks is going to get them to hire?
What are they smoking?
If you’re right, he’s not a very smart man. He’s facing two years of humiliation and disgrace. If he doesn’t get that, then he’s really not of sound mind.
Tax breaks give the corporations cash on hand to go on a feeding frenzy of the competitors. Think Marx already covered this. Oops, I said a dirty word.
Do you think Georgie Boy feels humiliated? They don’t live by the same standards and principals that We do. Just a guess. How about Cheney? Do you think he cares enough about what we think of him to be embarrassed? Is Jan Brewer embarrassed by her pathetic performance last night? It’s like they are a whole different sub-species.
If Clarence Thomas thought he’d seen a “high tech lynching” he hasn’t seen anything yet. Is it poetic justice that the man with the ego who thought he would usher in a “post partisan” world deserving of what’s in store for him?
After a long campaign and two years in office, the Democratic President unveils his plan, something never seen before on the face of the Earth:
Trickle-down economics.
Maybe they really didn’t understand that by “change” we didn’t assume they meant flipping 180 degrees from what he said in the campaign.
Worthless as is.
Until an IMMEDIATE government created and supported and paid for jobs works program is implemented to HIRE 30 million workers (2/3′rds of that white collar admin personnel of 40+) we are headed for the toilet of economic ruin.
END the tax cuts on the rich! Bush’s tax cuts, END them!
Spend deficit money by the boatloads to CREATE jobs, get people working and paying taxes, and buying stuff. Deficits will disappear.
And bring home troops, stop war funding to the extent it is. Defense, not offense.
Anything else is a waste of white space, by either the government, media, or in this forum.
Course, David, I want a pony with a pointed horn too . . . you betcha.
Enough with the limpid analyses of what they do to us, more of what WE can do to THEM!
Or we all die, anyways.
You used to have a much harder edge about you Mr. Dayen.
According to Mr. Bipartisan the Decider is a true patriot and defender of the troops, the American way of life, the smell of a powerful gasoline and one who can appreciate a good shoe shine.
I agree.
I agree with your premise. They do indeed live in a different world. But none of them have experienced what the Rs have in store for Obama.
and no one is more deserving. He chose poorly.
Custer wasn’t scared either.
Just for you.
I love that line from that movie.
Isn’t it called hubris? Roman emperors were quite familiar with it, often too late, however.
FWIW, I think David is being as objective as he can be — under the circumstances. It must be difficult.
I know. It has so many uses. Hope all is well Demi. I’m pissed tonight, more than usual.
Killing two birds with one stone. They are neither stupid nor timid, just relentless and methodical.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/15/politics/washingtonpost/main6680641.shtml
Non financial companies are sitting on 1.8 TRILLION dollars in cash as of July. Hello? How much G-Damned cash do you need in order to start hiring? Having cash in retained earnings is not a prerequisite for hiring and making jobs.
Yes.
Oh, that didn’t work at all. It was supposed to be an image of a unicorn.
15 seconds in the time out booth for me. :(
The stupid. It burns.
I’m hot. It’s still almost 108 here. And, yeah, I’ve had better moods too.
We’ll make it through, tho, hon. We will.
A temporary, say one year or so, exemption from paying the employer’s share of the the social security tax and medicare tax for new hires is not necessarily a bad idea.
It is the sort of incentitive that might encourage people, like me, who have been postponing hiring to do so.
My bad, referring to the Dem Plan (not a plan).
Shoulda made THAT more clear.
Don’t get it.
Put on your Other Glasses, Dear. *g*
It’s a bitch, ain’t it?
One way or another. They say it’s the hottest summer on record. Already it’s effecting food harvests and food riots have occurred in Africa over the rising cost of food. It’s a glimpse of things to come. The U.S. is not immune.
Yep, cutting SS revenues now is perfect excuse for cutting benefits later.
For months I have read comments that O is a corporatist sellout. Not totally persuaded, I always preferred to believe he was just very unprepared and arrogant. Now I think both views may be correct. And the bottom line is that they’re not going to let him succeed. Period.
The link didn’t work. It was supposed to be a unicorn. Oh, well. It’s a good thing I’m getting paid to do this, isn’t it?
I can appreciate that.
But my contention has NOTHING to do with objectivity.
It has to do with CONTENDING that we’re facing shit, we’re being handed shit, and why are we SWALLOWING and ANALYZING shit?
This kinda milketoast analysis is useless in terms of applying or rousting pressure to be applied to the elected offals killin us.
Where’s the revolution? Where’s my pointed horn pony? Where’s the rage? Where’s the hard edge?
I can live with the threat in the future. Not happily, but I have three kids who I worry more about. You have kids?
Demi, I don’t get what yer sayin.
Are you chiding me for my POV and comments about a weakened perspective in what I thought was a proggy forum?
I just don’t get what you are getting at.
And I care, so I ask . . . ;-)
THAT one wins the internets AFAIC.
*G*
If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a hundred times and I’ll continue to say it. It’s time to begin thinking of a primary challenge to Obama in 2012. I’m willing to say it at KOS and TPM.
Well F me. I tried to send you the pointy horned pony and it didn’t work. Ya wanna step outside, dude? Ha!
I’d say, JHC! My son actually asked me today what the H stands for. I don’t have an answer. Does anyone else?
2 step daughters who are struggling despite a good upbringing and education.
Me too.
Mostly cuz this time of year me and mine are doing 6 daze up at 4,500 ft. a couple miles outside Yosemite, at a music festival with 5,000 other DFH’s who tend to all play music and stay up late wandering from camp to camp to pick with each other.
And we is home, and it’s 100F today, in TheGodForSakenValleyThatTimeForgot.
And I’m not festing, and I’m not pickin, and I’m not cooking, and I’m not sanging.
I’m likely to be rather bitchy and stabby for the whole weekend, at this point.
*G*
Oh. You remarked that what you had previously said was unclear. That’s why I said new or different glasses. Perspective. That’s all. I care too. And, I’m sure you know that, sweets. You’re a good ‘un.
Bless your heart. I have 3 and one who is beautiful, scary smart and 22 is just having the hardest time with life. My heart breaks.
Shit, 108F?
Ok, you win.
;-)
it doesn’t include the worker side … only the business side. And if it’s short term, it’s like a rebate which basically gets used to pay down bills so it’s more like savings than spending.
You know, I think I cannot keep reading tonight. I do not know how much trouble we all are in…not just Ds. But I wanted this man to succeed so badly. He picked the wrong team and winked at the horrors of W. And kept us at war. To quote Larue: not only where’s the rage, but where is the strategy and plan and push back. Thanks
This is an attempt to buy the election. It’s too late and too pro-business. Obama may think he can sway the electorate by another of his pseudo-progressive speeches, but except for a few dyed in the wool Obamabot the charm of that is gone. Most voters don’t want more words. They want actions, yesterday. They want to see tangible changes in their own circumstances. If the Democrats had been interested in any of that, they already would have done it. They didn’t, and the electorate knows it.
PS, I thought of you today when I picked a coupla strawberries of a plant in my yard. I did, Larue. You~
Ahhh, ok.
So yer benched for 15 minutes, and I’m slow.
Hella team, Demi?
*G*
Hell, that was a good contention the day Obama announced Rahm as his COS.
*G*
I’m with ya.
That sure is pretty country. Been to the Sierra’s a couple of times and it’s truly a wonder. Can’t say enough for our National Parks and now we can even carry firearms. Yahooo and thanks Obama.
High desert here. But, I’m going camping up to Pismo on Tuesday, next. It will be cooler. Yay.
Agree.
Heh, outside or inside, WE always said JFC, and you KNOW what the F stood for!
“GIMME AN F!”
*G*
why would you even bother to say it over there … this corporatist is THEIR fault. Some of us knew what he was … his record and his speeches were pretty clear on some of this
Howard.
bonsoir!!!
I can’t believe the public would believe it this time. The polls certainly indicate that they won’t and don’t …
Bev, Bev, Bev. Light a candle. Epsom salts. Shhhuuuu. This is the day…and tomorrow will be a new one.
Besides, even O’s speeches are flat. One of his few campaign advantages over W, his ability to speak before crowds, seems to have deserted him.
If it is limited to new hires, it makes sense that it would apply only to the employer’s side.
Some people think O is scared and timid, others think he deliberately goes after what he wants.
I happen to be in the later category. That said, either side could be right, or neither.
The bottom line is that he is screwing us over and being pretty darn clever about it. After all, outside of the blogosphere, most people have no clue what he is trying to do to SS.
Made me snort! Thanks.
Yeah, thanks, you too.
I often join late to threads and play catch up.
Also, see my bitchy and stabby @68.
*G*
It came from whence they rented the plastic Greek Columns and the faux Latin seal design.
Cause he has nothing left to say. He knows we know he lied.
why not give the unemployed a chance to take home some extra money and a boost though?
Bullshit only gets you so far.
RB, we hold together in here, one way or the other.
And maybe this forum forges things between Pups that will be important in the future.
Bless ya RevBev. Have ALWAYS appreciated your POV’s.
Honored to be on the same page with ya, too.
*bows*
Sociopaths, every one of them.
I read somewhere that power doesn’t corrupt, it attracts the corruptible.
sorta like the gun thing
Perhaps we should do that too.
He seems like he’s not enjoying the job & would like to be anywhere else than the oval office.
That’s about it.
“It’s a wrap.”
Now we the people need to do something about it all.
November is comin on strong, and fast, hard, and ugly.
*G*
yes, dear. that’s why I said I thought of you when I picked the strawberries in my yard. Next year, right?
Well then, I’ll go pick some fresh basil and chiffonade it into some salad with our Purple Cherokee’s.
And smile.
You made me smile, Demi.
*G*
I’m gettin less bitchy and stabby by the font.
*G*
Yes, this is the most consequential issue.
My wife used to say “bless your heart.” It’s a nice memory. Sorry to hear about your 22 year old. Despite only knowing you on this blog I know you do have a big and generous heart and it must be so hard. Wishing you and yours all the best.
In the early 70′s had a friend who attended CalPoly SLO.
Man, did we have some GREAT times at Pismo, and along that coastal region during her breaks.
I KNOW Pismo!
*G*
Love yer stories, ya know, about cookin n campin.
*G*
You know there is an honest to god wiki on this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_H._Christ
Thanks for kind words…Demi, too. Here in the heat of Central TX we are
actually having a very pleasant cool…rain early in the day. Maybe that means change is always possible. Peace…I was trying to reflect on the pragmatism and optimism of Ms. Lappe. Thanks, again.
HE is just an employee, a lackey, an elected offal.
Let’s make sure we brand and label the phucks that are OWNING and MANAGING him, along with the rest of our elected offals.
I’m not EXCUSING Obama, but the elected fucks serve the overlords.
Do NOT lose sight of who owns each and every one of us.
ALMOST made me smile, yet again.
*G*
N he don’t care, either.
Hows yas two.
Surely there must be a community on the South side of Chicago that could use his “talents.”
Interesting observation, haven’t seen him recently, been avoiding him and general news.
Hmm.
Could he be showing some form of guilt? (not that it would matter, he’s guilty)
A “cool rain?” Well, there goes the argument for global warming or as the U.S. public prefers, global climate change.
He is a lackey, yes, but a willing one.
I don’t believe he is afraid of them, I believe he wants to be one of them.
Exactly!
*tipshat*
Ma’am.
A Howdy To Texas Betsy if ya cross her trail please . . . another I value highly on this rock.
I’m going mainly by the clips I saw of his victory round on Iraq. Plus, lots of unfilled appointments, no news conferences, …
No public push at all for anything since he’s been in office except for HCR, which wasn’t really a public push but a push to put Ds in the veal pen. I haven’t seen a prez retreat into his shell like O has.
MInute he named his admin and cabinet picks, that was pretty much a cinch for me, agreed.
All that public support effort really had ME going, maybe we got ourselves a populist!
Wrong.
He likes the bubble.
Nor I, but then, he’s the best Corporate/GOP President in history.
And he’s got two more years left, too.
LeSigh.
Nice chatting with all you folks . . . some I don’t always get to catch up with.
Like I said, I’m a bit bitter about being home and not festing.
Thanks for indulging my pouty mouth.
;-)
Back later on for more! Gotta tend to domestic fronts.
*G*
That seems to be about all he likes.
What? You don’t realize that was part of his eleventy-dimensional chess strategy? Bagger!
*Just kidding, of course!
You hit the nail on the head. This will hurt SSI. I wonder if all of those jobs the fascist corporations sent to China will be getting the tax cuts. Until there is a tariff placed around this country to penalize those products that used to be produced in the USA things are not going to change.
Brilliant. More useless and costly tax credits.
Hey Rube…its election time.
so if this is the zero administration’s starting point perhaps we end up keeping all the bush tax cuts to get republicans on board, pretty slick
It’s either Hector or Holy. I forget
Wanna bet the payroll tax is not replaced? Just take it out of the SS fund and simpson and his friends willcut SS to make it up.
An employee-side holiday on payroll taxes would be helpful but an employer side holiday would be like pouring gasoline on a fire.
What happens with an employer side tax holiday? Where do the savings go? Wallstreet? CEO compensation? Isn’t that just once again praying to the false gods of trickle down economics?
Either way, the admin needs to stop playing with the food on it’s plate and dig in. We need full employment… yesterday. Even if it means hiring tens of millions into government jobs.
A payroll tax holiday would be a bad idea, whether employee, employer, or both. It will undermine SS and play right into the Cat Food Commission plan. Paying for it with general fund won’t help. They will say, “Look, just last year SS added $XX billion to the deficit!”
Don’t do ANYTHING with SS. One of the strengths of SS is that it is a program that works on its own. Linking it to general revenue will be an opening for the deficit hawks.
but it will. In this time of desperation and “I’ve got mine, let the devil take the hindmost” in America…and elsewhere, I’m sure.
People will gladly trade Granny ( let alone the disabled)for a little more dough in their pockets.
This will provide the necessary impetus to gut SS/medicare/ medicaid/education/ forget infrastructure…we haven’t built anything for Americans since Eisenhower; why waste $$$ on a collapsing state?
Besides, all the Obama “administration” has to do IS PROMISE this FICA tax cut; they don’t have to actually DO it. Look slike another Lucy football to me.
It’ll make the bitter medicine of watching fellow Americans starve easier to swallow.
a VERY cynical ploy…then it’ll be OK with the ignorant if the tax cuts on the rich are made permanent too.
It’s a brilliant move to accomplish everything they want in one feel swoop.
I had a small amount of hope before they proposed THIS; but people’s greed and lack of caring will always win the day.
Screw these “drains on society” I can just hear it now.
Does Real Tax Reform Begin With a Payroll Tax Holiday?
Is a Payroll Tax Holiday a Good Idea?
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/09/is-a-payroll-tax-holiday-a-good-idea/62493/
“The Government Accountability Office said 72 percent of all foreign corporations and about 57 percent of U.S. companies doing business in the United States paid no federal income taxes for at least one year between 1998 and 2005.
More than half of foreign companies and about 42 percent of U.S. companies paid no U.S. income taxes for two or more years in that period, the report said.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1249465620080812
PS Instead of giving tax breaks to companies that don’t pay taxes anyway, how about making them pay their fair share for once ?
I guess it’s because they own America now, thanks to Bush and Obama’s anemic presidency.
Just remember….Obama’s “promises” that got him “elected/selected” he can and does say anything he wants to to get people to believe something’s going to happen and ….well……he just can’t because of the evil republicans, who, I think are still in charge of just about everything. Tax cuts may work with the R, tho as long as they hurt the American people’s recovery.
Not only have we been ripped off and our country and government destroyed, but they INSULT us too.