One of the ways that conservatives always try to invalidate elections, at least rhetorically, is to comfort themselves with the idea that the other side cheated. Liberals occasionally dabble in this, although the evidence is far stronger on their side. But conservatives have invented an entire cottage industry out of “voter fraud” claims. It drove a purge of US Attorneys who refused to prosecute it under the Bush Administration, it drove a community organizing group named ACORN, which engaged in a series of voter drives, out of business, and it drives received conservative wisdom about elections to this day.
So Dick Armey’s theory about voter fraud is different only that he quantifies the extent of the so-called “theft.”
Armey bashed Barack Obama and Democrats even harder – the former economics professor said the president was “economically ignorant” and accusing Democrats of widespread voter fraud, saying it bad votes accounted for 3 percent of elections.
“I’m tired of people being Republican all their lives and then changing parties when they die,” quipped Armey, 70.
Basically conservatives refreshed a dubious data point about the 1960 Kennedy-Nixon election and ran with it for 50 years. I’m surprised Armey low-balled it so much; you’d think he’d get into double digits.
One thing I’ll say for this is that Republicans aren’t typically the ones calling for a voter-verified paper trail for elections. They make a lot of noise about fraud but nothing that ever is provable, and then they take no steps to verify votes. Instead, they try to cut off people’s Constitutional rights by inventing all sorts of verifications and voter ID checks and the like. The entire gambit is to suppress the vote, and the ferocity of their rhetoric over vote-stealing can only be matched by the ferocity with which they try to stop others from exercising the right.
But if Armey wants to start a mass movement to stake out cemeteries and stop the dead from voting, I’ll go along with it. Or, he can join in for a national election standard for federal races.




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Yeah and those 10,000 voting machines that were destroyed by fire in the RED state of TX don’t endanger the right of living folk to vote!! The repugs are blowing lots of smoke like they usually do. Look what they did to ACORN. The repugs are interested only in repugs voting. After FL in 2000, I would say anywhere the repugs have power and oversight they will not have a fair election, if the results run against them. In MD, I used to think the League of Women Voters were the stalwarts to fair elections, but even that is subject to the leadership in the group and the country in which they operate.
Question for David Dayen: What exactly do you think a “voter-verified paper trail” is and why do you think such a thing can secure an election?
It’s a deadly serious question, and I’m wondering if you’re aware of existence and the actual nature of the corporate scheme that goes by a similar name.
Heard of Black Box Voting and Bev Harris? She’s a non-partisan who investigates claims of fraud and mismanagement in polling places all over the country! http://www.blackboxvoting.org. Her site is one worth following if you’re truly interested in elections and fraud.
And there’s a lot more of it (election fraud) out there than you might think! NOT GOOD!
And as I’ve stated before Brad Friedman of bradblog.com is one of the election integrity mainstays for reporting on the issue and is also non-partisan.
(Although since the repubs are far more organized than the dems on a nationwide level in this matter… as in everything else… EI advocates come in for more flack from the right than the left or the center…)
And David, the websites of Bev and Brad provide all the technical information and resources you’ll need for a basic grasp of the issues in EI… and if you still think a “voter-verified paper trail” is a secure method, or even an acceptable halfway step to a secure method, then you have a bit of catching up to do.
I believe you should research the matter… because if you keep espousing “paper trails” without being willing to discuss the issue you going to wind up with massive amounts of egg on your face when this issue blows up again.
In short, again, if it’s paper it’s got to be the ballot itself. Something besides the ballot printed by the machine that counts the votes is worse than useless and is easily gamed.
Of course that’s true of any system where a machine counts the votes but that’s another argument for another day… if at least there’s a paper ballot properly secured and stored then there’s a chance for a verifiable election.
In short:
“Voter-Verified Paper Trails” aren’t voter verified and only lead you to wherever the machine wants to lead you.
Just wow…since the 1st W election, won by Jeb’s home state of Fla, was the biggest fraud ever….you’d think the Repubs would be careful about this subject. Just a thought
But then they had the company that supplied substandard card stock for the ballots (because the same company was heavily into electronic voting) and they had the Supreme Court in their pocket.
Now they have e-voting everywhere and they still can count on the Supremes… because when the oligarchs say “jump” any Obama-nominated judges won’t even wait long enough to ask “how high?” before hurling themselves off of a judicial cliff.