Dana Milbank comes up with some compelling logic to indemnify Alan Simpson for his comments about Social Security: he’s been biased against the program for 20 years, so what’s the problem?
In 1992, Sen. Alan Simpson, a Wyoming Republican, complained in a speech to the National Conference of State Legislatures about how Social Security, veterans benefits and other programs had made America “like a milk cow with 250 million tits.” As best I can tell, the remark drew no attention or complaint.
Simpson reprised the line two weeks ago, updating it only for the population count. In an e-mail to the head of a Social Security advocacy group, he said that, in America, “We’ve reached a point now where it’s like a milk cow with 310 million tits!” This time, it was an udder debacle.
Milbank definitely has a career in writing puns for cow calendars (“Udder nonsense!”). But because he’s a firmly ensconced member of the Village establishment, he doesn’t look far beyond his nose at Simpson’s complaint, accepting that an off-budget retirement plan that people pay into and benefits for young men and women sent off to imperial adventures and unnecessary wars are the main drivers of our fiscal woes.
Milbank says that “If the commission does its job right, it will recommend cuts across the government — the Pentagon, social programs, entitlements, veterans’ benefits — as well as tax increases.” He must have been busy searching for new uses of that “udder” joke and shooting new editions of “Mouthpiece Theater” to recognize all the rumors – that the commission will largely look at Social Security and call it a day. That’s because the overwhelming majority of members of the Cat Food Commission support benefit cuts and oppose tax hikes. Their public statements over their entire careers offers a bit of a clue on this.
According to Milbank, if veteran’s benefits and Social Security are sacrosanct “we’ll have an economy like Greece’s.” Except our Social Security benefits rank 25th out of 30 industrialized countries, in an OECD survey. And our veteran’s benefits cost so much because 1) our health care system is unsustainably expensive and 2) we go to war whenever another country looks at us funny, helped along by the likes of Dana Milbank.
Milbank loves Simpson because he gives good quote, because he’s “colorful,” and when he calls Social Security recipients “greedy geezers” he should be cut some slack, because hey, alls fun in impoverishing seniors and war. And anyway, you people should be happy you’re getting any of the money you’ve paid into the system your entire working life:
Simpson is exactly the right man for the debt commission: a dealmaker. His proposal for Social Security is hardly the most radical. Who would liberals rather have representing the Republicans on the debt commission? The Senate nominee from Alaska, Joe Miller, who says “we’ve got to transition out of the Social Security arrangement”? Kentucky Senate nominee Rand Paul, who calls Social Security a “Ponzi scheme” from which people should “opt out”? Colorado Senate nominee Ken Buck, who calls Social Security “horrible, bad policy”? Or Nevada nominee Sharron Angle, who wants to “phase Medicare and Social Security out in favor of something privatized”?
So STFU and enjoy your benefit cut when you get it!
Milbank should stop admiring his own likeness in the WaPo and turn over to Ezra Klein, who did something remarkable for a Post reporter – he looked at the numbers, the ones not contained in Milbank’s mash note.
The size of that fix is significant, but not astonishing. Over the next 75 years, the shortfall will be equal to about 0.7 percent of gross domestic product. How much is 0.7 percent of GDP? To put that in perspective, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities calculates that it’s about as much as Bush’s tax cuts for the rich will cost over the same period. Saying we can afford those cuts—which is the consensus Republican position—but not Social Security’s outlay is nonsensical [...]
Start with the basic rationale for raising the retirement age. Rep. Paul D. Ryan (R-Wisc.) has argued that when Social Security was signed into law, the retirement age was 65 and life expectancy was 63. “The numbers added up pretty well back then,” he said on Fox News. But that’s misleading. That figure was driven by high infant mortality. If you were a white male who’d made it to age 60 in 1935, you could expect 15 more years going forward. If you’re a white male who lives to 60 today, you can expect 20 more years going forward.
Moreover, those averages conceal a lot of inequality. In 1972, a 60-year-old male worker who made less than the median income had a life expectancy of 78 years. By 2001, he had a life expectancy of 80 years. Meanwhile, workers in the top half of the income distribution shot to 85 years from 79. Insofar as the argument for raising the retirement age is that “Social Security beneficiaries live a lot longer today than they did in 1935,” it should be restated as: “Social Security beneficiaries tend to live somewhat longer today than they did in 1935, and that’s much more true of rich beneficiaries than poor beneficiaries.”
Wrong, Klein, that wasn’t folsky enough and you didn’t insult seniors or use a cow metaphor. Back of the line for you.
As this Twitter user says, “I can’t think of a better confirmation that Alan Simpson needs to go than Dana Milbank praising him.”
UPDATE: And plenty more from Glenn Greenwald.



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Milbank truly is a courtier at Versaille on the Potomac with that gibberish
Millbank: because that homey folksiness will wash the taste of catfood right out of any oldster’s mouth. Mmm-mmm.
I guess social security has to be cut, (even though it has nothing to do with the deficit), so Milbank can keep his tax cuts.
So I Alan was a serial Killer for 20 years and defended being a serial killer that would be alright too? No wait thats not fair to Serial Killers if you cut Social Security by X amount of Dollars just how many millions of Americans will die sooner than they might have died if benefits were not cut?
Tell the Vets there benefits are next. Are the Vets aware of this?
Dana we are a consumer driven economy and consumers are not buying. What happens to Consumer demand if Social Security benefits are cut?
Sure the cuts might not be for years but unless we get a real stimulus bill we can expect an economic recovery to take years too.
To make money you have to spend money Dana FDR proved that. Cutting Taxes does not help the economy Dana Bush proved that for 8 years.
Veterans…? The man is crazy.
Milbank isnt the only village idiot making the same – its just “simpson being simpson” noise. ive seen it in several places. the first place i noticed it was in a blog post justifiably castigating jonathan alter -that george costanza of journalism- for making the same dumb comment.
People can invest their own money better than the government can and the rich can then create more jobs? Uh how much has everyone lost from their savings and retirement because of Bush tax cuts, lower interest rates and war spending not being cut pushed us into a housing bubble that destroyed our freemarket banks?
It was the banks that went to the Government for a bailout Dana not the other way around.
Sheesh with morons like you in the media talking about business and the economy its no wonder the Media stocks are so low and reader/viewership is down.
And Obama is crazy for giving him a job after making comments like that. The Lake if we want has enough to burn this guy if the frontpagers keep pushing.
Speaking of going to the US government for bailouts…
Just what benefit to society does war spending give America if Ossama is in Pakistan? Zero now take the value of old people spending their Social Security checks in our economy and calculate X amount of drop in SS equals X amount of drop in consumer spending which means X amount of drop in jobs.
he should have been fired along with that other idiot cris silly-iza for the incredibly brain dead “mouthpiece theatre”. i remember a time (most of the cold war era) when they probably would have been
Wouldn’t it be sweet if some of these a** kissing writers were down-sized out of their jobs?
It has to be viewed in the context of the long term goal of the right to “defund the left”. As some have pointed out, social security needs to be doubled, not cut. The private investment accnts, when they arent being wiped out, arent being created for a certain class of people that will, more and more, have to rely on social security alone. They are FULLY aware of this and want to “drown it in the bathtub” so that never happens (thanks grover! btw i always liked cookie monster better than you)
If the Commission did its job right, it would pull ALL of the cuts from the Pentagon.
But we all know that THAT will never happen. Hell they’ll probably recommend more tax cuts for billionaires! Who needs to guarantee livable retirements or pay teachers when poor Paris Hilton needs a break!
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/05/world/asia/05kabul.html?_r=2&hp
Dubai the country that created islands shaped like world countries so rich people could build mansions but most of the Islands never sold?
This is an old story at least a year maybe longer.
1) I want to know just how much are we going to give them
2) just how much bigger the Social Security cuts will have to be
3) why isn’t Dana and Alan talking about cutting all American Foreign aid to other countries before they cut American Social Security?
Where are Dana and Alan they should be screaming about wasteful government spending? America is bailing out a Private Bank!
We are hamstrung by the myths we buy into. Obama is cautious, or center-right, or likes to avoid conflict, or is playing eleven dimensional chess, or over emphasizes bipartisanship. Reid is ineffectual, a bumbler without a backbone. Pelosi is a liberal because she comes from San Francisco, because she is the first female Speaker of the House, because she is a Democrat. We can work with Democrats because they are not Republicans, because some sometimes use progressive phrases in their speeches and their solicitations and because that’s what they call themselves, or more likely are called by somebody in the media. And then there is the media and on and on.
We live in a kleptocracy of crony casino capitalism. Our elites, Democratic and Republican, in government, media, or academia, on Wall Street or Main Street have but one purpose, a single goal, and that is to rob us blind. They are deadly serious about it. Don’t let the clown hats and the rube directed rhetoric fool you. Obama wants to steal you blind. So does Mitch McConnell. Dana Milbank, David Brooks, Keith Olbermann, the whole of the media will point fingers here and there, but mostly they will cheer the kleptocrats who own them on.
Why do some still claim after the last 20 months screwed the poor, the middleclass, the left, and the base of the Democratic Party that we need not worry because “Obama is cautious, or center-right, or likes to avoid conflict, or is playing eleven dimensional chess, or over emphasizes bipartisanship”? Why can’t we all agree that Obama went left in the election primary only because he he needed to con us so as to beat a center left Democrat – Hillary. Obama is a corporate controlled moderate republican that is to the right of Nixon and H W Bush, and only a little to the left of Reagan and G. W. Bush. He makes Bill Clinton look like a flaming liberal, and makes Hillary look like a socialist (albeit one that’s center right on Foreign affairs but is still only approaching from the left our President Obama on foreign policy).
It is hard to believe that our Democratic Party leaders – while stating the very good plan for wining the midterm election by telling people that the GOP wanted to attack Social Security and the Democrats would protect it- where actually planning on, once the election was over, enacting the Commission’s Social Security cuts (beyond a one year increase to 68 in the year 2050 that seems justified to me) without removal of the wage cap and without serious cuts at the Pentagon or serious tax increases on the rich.
I do not like 2nd term presidential primaries of a Dem President because Teddy’s 1980 effort gave us Reagan, but I am hard pressed to see how a Romney would be worse for the left than Obama – and maybe this time we – the left – might win that primary and go on to win the election.
Another excellent article, David. Thanks for keeping this on the fire.
Hey Dana,
As Thomas Friedman sez…SUCK ON THIS!
Hey, Milbank! You stank.
Hey Milbank, Here’s some of your own logic:
What would you rather have? A Shit sandwich or plain shit with no bread.
The so-called “Free Press” is our enemy. A good quote from Greenwald’s post
Keep it coming FDL people, cockroaches fear the light.
I sent Millbank an email to express my self to see if he has the balls to respond.
Heres the E-mail
Will he respond?
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I have been trying to tell military retirees that they would be next to the cutting table. They don’t believe it, especially with all this thank you business going on now.
First the praise, then the demonizing, then the cuts.
They don’t believe the Republicons will let that happen.
Yeah for Dana! He’s officially a Village Idiot!
Wanna see how it’s done? Go Cenk Uygur!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31510813/#38940675
It seems more and more to me that people dying off sooner is exactly what the MOTU want.
I just hope it doesn’t come down to jackboots in the night and concentration camps for people who can’t work or go to war for The Corporation or State anymore
Excellent! I love it, it’s time for calling it like it is. that Senator got really upset and so did Cenk. I love a good shouting match over this subject.
NOW, they quote Clinton when he was the Devil all during the Bush admin. fookers!
Yes, I’m glad to see some passion, but I would have called the ex-Congressman on the “we live longer lie” like David notes above, and I would have waved the SS report with the 2+ trillion dollar surplus figure in his face. But then, I’m getting so PO’ed about this stuff, I’d probably get canned the first day.
Basically SS was set up just like any insurance plan by actuaries that accounted for people living longer, etc, and was fixed with overpayments to account for baby boomers by Reagan/Greenspan in the eighties. So if it’s a Ponzi scheme, then every insurance plan ever devised is a Ponzi scheme too.
Cenk is dead on right when he says all they want to do is rip off the American people that built that surplus. As for that bald ass-ed assertion that there is “no money”, I’d hold up a dollar bill and a T-bill and ask the ex-Congress critter if he thought these were “worthless” because SS is backed by T-bills just like every other Federal debt.
I saw during Health Care bill an invitation sent by WaPo editor for a get-together soliciting funds to write for or against the bill. So Mr. Millbank article could be following that paid MSM path.
I am some blogger saying that he is waiting for more MSM articles in favor of the stuff which the commission is not even supposed to be looking at. stuff which paid MSM will do. What this commission is doing is if someone asks how to improve the school system by raising revenue and cutting expenses they go and look at the savings accounts held in super safe treasury bonds of all the banks and say how they can get that money by saying it is worthless.
Social Security makes economy Depression Proof, Forces People when the times are good and this is why it is requried and needed.
I recently saw a bumper sticker saying that Corporate Controlled MSM is destructive. This could an exaggeration but is partly true in my opinion. People including myself are understanding how our wonderful functioning economic system was slowly being dismantled due to greed and how our congress was getting duped to write policies against the long term interests of its own children due to efforts of folks at FDL. Keep on bringing light Jane, Jon, David et. al..
Anyway reiterating social security makes our economy depression proof, forces people to save a lot 12.5% at the minimum when the times are good, do a good noble deed worthy of a civilized society and this is why this noble and sacred concept is required and needed.