On Sunday, Stan Collender made the outlandish suggestion that the Republicans would move to shut down the government as early as this week. By Tuesday, Jim DeMint had begun to make that a reality:
South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint warned Monday evening that he would block all legislation that has not been cleared by his office in the final days of the pre-election session.
Bret Bernhardt, DeMint’s chief of staff, said in an e-mail to GOP aides that his boss would place a hold on all legislation that has not been cleared by both parties by the end of the day Tuesday [...]
With the Senate slated to adjourn Thursday untiil after the elections, DeMint’s stance could mean trouble for Democrats if the two parties don’t quickly agree on a stopgap spending measure to keep the government operating past Sept. 30. And that could mean the demise of a slew of other stalled and largely non-controversial bills that both parties are looking to clear before Election Day.
That stopgap spending measure is a continuing resolution, which has to get signed into law by midnight Thursday to ensure government operations, probably thru February. DeMint alone could force the Democrats to go through the cloture process, something they wouldn’t be able to finish in time for Thursday night if Republicans use all the rules at their disposal, particularly post-cloture time. This would also keep Democrats in both chambers (the House would have to sign off on anything that the Senate evenutally passed) in Washington well beyond the point they expected.
As Collender notes, there’s a risk for the GOP here, in getting blamed for a government shutdown. Obviously DeMint doesn’t care, and probably sees it as a base-rallying maneuver for his Tea Party movement.
The only way that DeMint would “sign off” on a quick solution here is probably with something like what Collender predicts:
What makes at least the consideration of a shutdown this week even more likely is that it could be over the same exact issues we’ve been assuming would precipitate a showdown next years. Republican senators can just as easily demand that the CR that will be considered this week include language prohibiting any funds from being used to promulgate regulations on health care and financial services, and that spending be at the 2008 rather than the 2010 level as they could next February. They could then use this to demonstrate they were serious out the Pledge to America released last week.
This is something Democrats probably wouldn’t have had to worry about if they planned ahead. As it is, they’ll either give in to DeMint’s demands, or get out of town a week late or more.
I hope the nonsense outsourcing bill and the doomed cloture vote on the DISCLOSE Act, both of which took up so much time in the past week, was worth it.
(By the way, these aren’t “secret” holds – DeMint’s doing this right out in the open. Only reforming the entire structure of the Senate rules, which empowers not just the minority but individual Senators to obstruct everything, will this evaporate.)
UPDATE: I’m looking at the rule on this via David Waldman, and the Democrats did think ahead a little, as they have set up the vote on the motion to proceed for the legislative vehicle carrying the continuing resolution today. Even if that passes, the Republicans could play out the string and ensure that the continuing resolution does not finish in time for Thursday night, but they could probably get it done by the weekend.
Ironically, the best thing for the Republicans to do if they really want to shut down the government today is to let the motion to proceed on the anti-outsourcing bill pass. Because then (and I’m not certain I have the procedural kinks right) the Democrats would have to waste more time filing cloture specifically on the CR.




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Fairly lengthy Rolling Stone interview (Wenner) with Obama up now, including questions and answers about his relationship with the Repugs.
A now would be a time for Harry Reid to force the GOP to filibuster a tax cut for the middle class bill. After all the GOP wants to get home to campaign.
Please tell me Harry as Senate Leader still has the power to schedule votes on bills.
Quite agree. But my expectation is that Harry Reid will do no such thing and will find yet another way to kow-tow to the Republicans.
Cue the Kabuki, Harry!
Jim DeMented is a C Street mobster intent on becoming Senate Majority Leader. The current crop of Teatard candidates was hand-picked by him, ensuring their support in his challenge to unseat Mitch McConnell.
Jim DeMented had a hand in the primary fiasco in South Carolina in which Alvin Greene defeated James Clyburn in an overtly rigged election.
A real leader would say they want to leave lets make them stay. What will they pay to leave? I suggest we get a Stimulus bill and a real healthcare plan. We could even vote to End the Wars!
Make the GOP waste time in Washington Filibustering issues the American People want and think are important.
Thats what I would do if I wanted to win this race Harry.
True Harry was chosen as Senate Leader it seems because he was so easy for others to control.
GOP civil war starting lets get the popcorn.
It’s not a good thing. The collateral damage will be us.
The last time the GOP shut down the Government we went up in the polls. Just why does Jim think this time will be different?
If I was Harry I would up the Ante now force the GOP to stay in Washington and filibuster a bunch of bills people want like ending the wars and using the savings to create jobs green jobs. Help Gays serve in the Army, Immigrants get rights.
Basically tell the GOP we have a bunch of bills we that are popular with voters like tax cuts you can’t not support before the elections and we are tying them to stuff like repealing DADT that we know you can’t support.
You will not shutdown the government and go home to campaign.
Agree. Beware the C Street “Family” mafioso; their tentacles reach far and wide. They are evil scum out to run the planet, not just this nation, and they’ll stoop at nothing. The hubris amongst that crowd of miscreants is nothing short of astonshing.
Read Jeff Sharlett’s books for insights. I’ve got biological family enmeshed with that crowd; they are sort of “innocents” who don’t get the cult they’re in. I’ve been to some C Street “Family” sponsored meetings, and they are one scary bunch, believe me.
Tea Baggers taking on Corporate GOPers, Fundy’s looking to co op both sides besides a government shutdown which already seems to be in the works this hurts us how?
What media pundit can go on tv and say the GOP shutting down government again will work this time? Is Newt trying to fix the failure’s of his past?
First the Neo Hoovers in the Fed try and fix Herbert Hoover’s reputation by saving the economy his way big failure now Newt wants to fix his failures is Jeb Bush next to try and fix his brothers failure’s?
ha!
was asking David Waldman about the continuing resolution late last week in anticipation of something like this – frankly because after their Message Is King! bs with the tax cut punt, I wouldn’t put it past Dems to allow a shut down to occur – the spectre of a GOP shutdown wouldn’t hurt their electoral fortunes either
leave it to Politico to frame this as trouble for the Dems – The Kewl Kidz Klarion . . .wrong, again
I don’t like the idea of shutting down the gov’t but maybe that’s what is needed to open the eyes of voters. There would be lots of blame heaped on the Rs and I don’t think people would be at all pleased.
First learned about the Family from Sharlett’s “Soldiers of Christ” story in Harper’s Magazine in 2005. It sounded ominous then, and it certainly is the threat that you describe it as.
where do we sign up for these high dollar Repub consulting gigs ? imagine 6-7 figures a year to offer up a gold plated dumbass plan like that ?
And these clowns have the nerve to be offended about Stephen Colbert testifying before Congress. The entire Legislative Branch makes a mockery of our democracy. They should all be removed from office.
We could replace them with farm animals. They’d bring more decorum to the table.
Make the Rethuglican shut it down…it is time to stand up to these bullies and if Reid won’t do it then we need a new Senatorial leader and I don’t mean DeMintal.
The Tea Baggers are really starting to get scary.
Their astro turffing overlords have lost control.
Should the Republicans succeed in shutting down the government, they just might experience being shut out again on Nov 2nd. Wishful thinking…
I seem to recall the voters taking it out on Gingrich, et al when they tried that tactic.
Shutting Down The Gubmint will be very popular with Teabaggers any many Republicans. Lest we forget, The Legacy Media will spin it entirely in their favor.
It is quite possible that, this time, a Big Gubmint Shutdown would be popular with the public by a margin of 51 percent or greater. No doubt, C Street, DaMint, Rove and Rupert Murdoch are crunching the numbers as we speak.
Let him shut it down. People are paying attention now and the teabag Republicans are already motivated to vote. Of course I don’t expect Harry Reid to seize the opportunity to make them publicly obstruct government business but as I said, people are paying attention. Not all of the teabaggers are going to be chuffed when they realize that the medicare and social security they rely on is also part of the government.
If any Democrat needs to be motivated this season this is it folks! Demint is the future of the Senate if they take over.
Not to mention reason and ideas…
We have to stop electing mentally challenged people to office.
Don’t be so smug about closing down our Govt. This kind of action would be disastrous for millions of Americans who rely on the services they receive. Do you have any idea what kind of recession we would have if the Govt was shut down for any serious length of time? People would literally starve, lose their homes, their jobs.
A shut down would be very popular with Tea Baggers but Social Security checks come in late well the Tea Baggers are forgetting older White males are their base. College kids who are depressed about Obama would have their student loan checks come in late this could help us a bunch.
Yes but we are not doing it much like hurricane Katrinia we are merely pointing out what will happen if the GOP causes this to happen.
Blame won’t go our way we are the party of big government remember?
It would certainly be awful but I’m wondering if a long term pain might not be worse. And that’s what we will have if the Rs are in control – real pain for a long time.
Perhaps the flaccid Dem leadership is hoping DeMint and the zanies will take all this rope and hang themselves, and the rest of the Rs with them, but we didn’t need to end up at this point. This is what happens when you roll over for two years.
Forgive me for turning this around on the Democratic Party leadership, but isn’t DeMint up for reelection this year? Who is the serious challenger of the Democratic Party who will take this Senate seat away from DeMint?
The last time they shut down the government it backfired big time. I have to wonder if there’s something DeMint knows that he’s not telling, or if there’s something that he sees as an “upside” that’s not intuitively obvious to the rest of us.
Reid is a weak man, who’s willing to give in to almost any threat, does DeMint have something that’s going to make Reid fold like a cheap card table or is this going to become a bigger mess than what happened when Newt got his nose out of joint because Clinton wouldn’t let him ride in the front of AF1?
DeMint being able to hold the entire Nation hostage is certainly a sign that the republicans want to make a statement, and they do nothing without knowing the outcome or at least having a good idea of whether or not it will be favorable to them.
This guy.
Go into continuous session Tuesday and have the
Senate clock stopped before midnight.
I dunno, assuming the Senate passes a continuing resolution (surely Reid won’t fuck that up), maybe this will turn out OK. Its unclear if DeMint wants to lock up the Senate till after election day or until after the next Congress is sworn in January.
If waiting til next year is the game DeMint’s playing, well… we won’t have to worry about the Catfood Commission coming up in the lame duck session. Even if DeMint backs down after election day so the Commission report can come up for a vote, he sets the bar pretty high for progressive senators on how someone who wants to enforce his will on the Senate operates, as opposed to just giving speeches and flailing around ineffectually (speaking of which, I hope Reid doesn’t mess up that CR).
Hahahaha! Great pic!
And yet after the laughing, doesn’t someone have to ask why the Democratic Party dumbasses didn’t bother to make a serious effort at defeating DeMint?
Shutting down the Federal government screws up the regional economy for months plus pissing off all those Federal employees … well, last time Gingrich did this under Clinton he had to call it off. Nevertheless, don’t forget these facts still in play … The amount of cronies shoved inside is staggering as once they get in they apparently never go away (e.g. “Residents protest Bush, Kissinger, Cappiello fundraiser” in 2008; “Europeans Hide Behind the Unpopularity of President Bush,” Der Spiegel, Feb. 18, 2008; “Pioneers Of U.S.-China Relations Attend Olympics : NPR,” Aug. 12, 2008). I am waiting for it to come out that Kissinger visits the White House to advise Obama just like he gave advice to Bush, Shrubya, Palin and McCain.
After going to the linked Politico article then reading the comments section there, I now understand the vast ignorance in this country and why we are close to putting the GOP back in power. Speaks volumes of our media.
And it is interesting — DeMint is threatening to shut down the government and the Politico comes away that that spells trouble for the Democrats? This is only possible because of the brain dead press.
do you mean the millions sucking off the “government teat” ??
It takes ONE Senator to block a vote. Bunning stopped unemployment benefits. And the GOP thought that was a wonderful idea! Only the well paid can afford to be callous about the welfare of the people who elected them into office. Elected officials won’t have to worry about the housing crisis, job loss, or financial ruin, they are doing just fine. The GOP voted unanimously to outsource more jobs, laying off more Americans, after they teach foreign workers to do their jobs! That vote took place today. There are 400 bills that have passed the senate that the GOP has put a hold on in Congress. The amount of filibusters by the GOP is at an all time high. They will apparently do anything to regain power, whether it is good for the country or not.
If you lost your job would you consider yourself one of the government’s sucklings, or someone in need of help? Not everyone is on the dole. Thankfully, not everyone is shortsighted either. There are not enough jobs to go around, and with outsourcing and the recent oil disaster, it isn’t getting any better. I don’t know how old you are, or how much of life you’ve actually seen, but you need to get out more, maybe become a volunteer, help someone, learn a little, grow a heart.
hmmm … well, here goes … I am a 53 year-old Project Engineer with no college education and have worked in the civil construction industry most of my adult life (mostly for the government) and in November 2008 after two years with a private construction firm, was laid off for the first time in my life, collected my unemployment (hating every day of it) and was back to work with the same company in a few months(yes, I was lucky). I knew then that I had 26 weeks to get a job (any kind of job)…. but really, how long is this continuation of benefits supposed to go on (I personally know two people, one a family member and one a friend of the family who have no intentions of looking for a job as long as they can keep getting unemployment benefits).
I have learned more than a little in my lifetime and strongly believe in personal responsibility. I also volunteer for Toys For Tots during the Christmas season, wrapping presents. I also serve on my company’s golf tournament committee that gives out around $70,000.00 a year to community based youth organizations and local medical clinics — am not a heartless person but one who believes that this once great country has gone to hell because of the social engineering policies that have been enacted in the last century — that the “government will take care of all the problems”. Even though I did not agree with JFK’s politics, the most important thing he decided was that that it was important that we put a man on the moon within a decade — no matter the cost !! — it gave the country a purpose — and Obama has HCR, Wall Street, Cap & Trade, etc., etc., etc — pick one big thing and run with it (Maybe fix the crisis he inherited — jobs, jobs, jobs)
So, there it is !!
And when the Republicans retake the Senate and there’s no filibuster, one presumes you’ll be perfectly fine with there being absolutely nothing left to stop them from ramming their agenda through the Senate. How disgusting.
Explain to me this: How is it that the Republicans managed to make their bills sail through the Senate despite never having had a filibuster-proof majority during the Bush-Cheney regime? Obviously the filibuster was never a problem for them. They found ways around it, usually by bullying all-too-compliant Democrats into supporting their insane right-wing legislation and resorting to reconciliation.
Stop using the filibuster as an excuse to let the Republicans pass whatever they want with a mere fifty-one votes. It is NOT holding up progressive legislation. For that you have the Democrats, who put up nothing but watered down bills that they then proceed to gut in order to appease their counterparts on the other side of the aisle.
Whoa there. Remember that people’s lives are affected by a government shutdown. Those of us who are unemployed, and rely on welfare and student loan-grant and Social Security checks just to survive day-to-day stand to suffer greatly if those checks stop for even a week. Our lives are not pawns in the games politicians play, and we should not be trying to think of ways to help them use us thus.
http://www.urban.org/publications/900898.html
Get Rid of Immigrants and Obama’s Catfood Commission Social Security cuts get $6 or $7 billion bigger.