Tom Daschle’s admission that the public option was tossed in a deal with the hospital industry may come as news to a lot of people, if it gets wide attention. It’s significant that Daschle tried to clarify his statement to Igor Volsky at The Wonk Room, even though his book contains the same information:
In his book, Daschle reveals that after the Senate Finance Committee and the White House convinced hospitals to accept $155 billion in payment reductions over ten years on July 8, the hospitals and Democrats operated under two “working assumptions.” “One was that the Senate would aim for health coverage of at least 94 percent of Americans,” Daschle writes. “The other was that it would contain no public health plan,” which would have reimbursed hospitals at a lower rate than private insurers.
In addition, this acknowledgement lines up perfectly with the admittedly scant public record we have on the subject. Miles Mogulescu pursued this story at the Huffington Post for months, and Ed Schultz got an on-the-record confirmation from a reporter at the New York Times.
On Monday, Ed Shultz interviewed New York Times Washington reporter David Kirkpatrick on his MSNBC TV show, and Kirkpatrick confirmed the existence of the deal. Shultz quoted Chip Kahn, chief lobbyist for the for-profit hospital industry on Kahn’s confidence that the White House would honor the no public option deal, and Kirkpatrick responded:
“That’s a lobbyist for the hospital industry and he’s talking about the hospital industry’s specific deal with the White House and the Senate Finance Committee and, yeah, I think the hospital industry’s got a deal here. There really were only two deals, meaning quid pro quo handshake deals on both sides, one with the hospitals and the other with the drug industry. And I think what you’re interested in is that in the background of these deals was the presumption, shared on behalf of the lobbyists on the one side and the White House on the other, that the public option was not going to be in the final product.”
The timing of Kirkpatrick’s story about the health care negotiations covers exactly the same time frame as Daschle does – the summer of 2009, specifically July. This article is from August 13 of that year:
Early last month, for example, hospital officials were poised to appear at the White House to announce a deal limiting their industry’s share of the costs of the overhaul proposal when a wave of jitters swept through the group. Senator Max Baucus, the Finance Committee chairman and a party to the deal, had abruptly pulled out of the event. Was he backing away from his end of the deal?
Not to worry, Jim Messina, the deputy White House chief of staff, told the hospital lobbyists, according to White House officials and lobbyists briefed on the call. The White House was standing behind the deal, Mr. Messina told them, capping the industry’s costs at a maximum of $155 billion over 10 years in exchange for its political support.
I don’t know that there’s a piece of paper laying out the terms, or an audio tape of the meeting, or anything other than a handshake deal. But this is a fairly badly kept secret in Washington, and now Daschle went ahead and put it in a mass market book.
The hospital industry was an unsung player in the health care debate, but it was almost certainly their pressure, and their unwillingness to accept a public option which could have bargained down their profits, that led to its demise. In the next round of health reform, and there has to be a next round, the influence of the hospital industry must be taken into account.
Despite this chain of evidence laying around, from the NYT to Daschle, nobody has really run with this and delved into the nature of the WH/hospital deal, though we know most of the broad outlines. And I don’t think anyone can deny its existence at this point.
UPDATE: It should be noted that one person who denied this deal is the man who asserted it before, Chip Kahn, the hospital industry lobbyist. He says that there never was an explicit or implicit agreement, though he acknowledges that the industry opposed the public option and made a deal for $155 billion in scoreable give-backs, all of which is in the public record.
UPDATE II: I didn’t actually print Daschle’s walkback because it’s so pathetic I feel sorry for him:
“In describing some of the challenges to passage of the public option in the health reform bill, I did not mean to suggest in any way that the President was not committed to it. The President fought for the public option just as he did for affordable health care for all Americans. The public option was dropped only when it was no longer viable in Congress, not as a result of any deal cut by the White House. While I was disappointed that the public option was not included in the final legislation, the Affordable Care Act remains a tremendous achievement for the President and the nation.”
Keep in mind this is 100% opposite what he wrote in his own book.



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I am not sure which is worse the administration dealing away the public option, or their continued denial of that fact.
It is really insulting, they must think we are complete idiots.
Let’s see, they
negotiatedgave away drug re-importation and lower Medicare drugs to Pharma in return for 80 billion over 10 years (a pittance) and gave away THE PUBLIC OPTION, the major centerpiece of reform in the first place and the only real vehicle to drive down costs, to the hospital industry for 155 billion over 10 years. They gave away the entire store early on. Maybe we can stop having ridiculous discussions about how involved the White House was in “preserving private delivery”.And think of all the play acting they did in the remaining months
until “reform” was finally passed in March of 2010.
To my knowledge the White House never denied that they dealt away the Public Option in July. Obama stopped talking about it after that. The lies and mixed messages came from Democrats in Congress.
what a g-dammed racket.
not really, it was in his September 2009 address to a joint session of Congress.
What about giving everyone Medicare Part A (the hospital benefit)?
I heard that the insurance industry is actually on board with this, because they think they’re getting shafted in their negotiations with hospitals.
There would have to be an increase in reimbursement initially to keep hospitals from going bankrupt, but long term it would save money. Doctors and Pharma for the most part would be unaffected.
Too bad we already made our “grand bargain.” We should should have gotten a better deal.
Don’t mean to offend, but what’s with the “we” stuff, as in “. . . we already made our ‘grand bargain’”? The Big People made the “grand bargain.” We, the little or small people, damned sure “should have gotten a better deal,” but by their reckoning we barely count at all and no doubt should be on our knees in gratitude that we got anything at all. (We are on our knees but that’s because they’ve wrecked the economy, too. Oh, I’m such a whiner!)
501 C (3) Corporations, providers and insurers, tax exempt by virtue of an IRS determination, relieving the burdens of government? What a crock of cow dung! Yet, American citizens now must fear a tax penalty levied by the IRS for failure to buy health insurance, because they cannot afford the overpriced insurance and services?? Why not reinstitute the institution of SLAVERY! Abolish “health insurance” as was the institution of slavery and allocate the “blood money,” extracted from America by health insurance corporations who have practiced discrimination for decades for profit. We have seen all this before.
Protect the modern day slaveowners? Some day America might get it and understand the the concept and the extent to which they have been leveraged into servitude by state based corporations. Remember segregation anyone? Leveraged economic sevitude?
Hold on, D-Day. We knew from the Times that Obama made a deal with the hospital industry to ditch the best PO, the one that paid Medicaid rates, but this stuff from Daschle goes farther. It says that not just the hospital industry but AHIP “and others” were involved and that Obama baragined away all forms of a public option.
http://www.correntewire.com/interview_paul_street_author_%E2%80%9C_empire%E2%80%99s_new_clothes%E2%80%9D_part_ii
and why should we be excited to vote for these knuckleheads again?
They are doing a terriable job and I cannot support people who sel me out at the drop of a hat…
They are going to do it with social security as well…
Obama is going to be a one term president and he does not see it coming..
We now have to purchase crappy insurance from a crappy company and now wait till 70 to get SS and Medicare….
What a crying shame….
The only reason the WH bothered with Health care was all the graft they could gather by LOL bargaining away any real reform it was in their power to deliver for the rest of us. How cynical can u get! These grifters have a lot of nerve a yr. later trying to convince us once again to vote for them claiming no less that they somehow represent our interests? WTF!
THis was found in Market Watch
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-fed-is-dead-maybe-by-2012-2010-10-05?pagenumber=1
The insurance companies are not supposed to be in charge of anything, much less our country. Obama gave in to get a tiny something (don’t know what it was”) and gave away our right to good health care. He got exactly what he wanted and he may now get what he deserves…..retirement.
What’s the over-and-under on how much time elapses before someone from the administration tells us to “get over it” about the public option? My money is on the under.
I believe it’s also in Geyman’s book “Hijacked”, but I’m not certain (I just read the chapter last night but don’t have the book with me at the moment…)
Blood money.
For this reason alone, and I have thousands of others, I will not be voting Dem on 11/2/10.
The public option damn sure did mean something specific, at the beginning of the debate.
The sad thing was, it was originally conceived as a moderate and centrist alternative to Medicare for Everybody (socialized medicine! Eek!).
So much for moderate alternatives. Next time, we (the little people) should push for Medicare for all. No more public-private partnership neoliberal bullshit.
Reply to david mizner @ #11
I love that quote! He contradicts himself in his very next sentence.
It reminds me of an old Dashiell Hammett Continental Op story where a policeman can’t understand anything a diplomat is saying, and the Op advises him to “Just ignore anything he says that starts with a negative, `It not that…’ or `I don’t think that…’. Everything else is OK.”
Especially if they never tried to get a better deal. And blocked any and all attempts to get a better deal. And threatened the Congressional Dems actually trying to achieve a better deal while backing and empowering those who were making sure the deal would not be better. Yep, when you make sure you can’t get a better deal than what you’ve promised the industries, turns out you can’t get a better deal.
That said, according to TPM Daschle is now contradicting his own book to support the WH narrative.
The two major political parties on the take and most of the minor ones are suspected to be creations of theirs. So our we voting when we vote at the national level? Just in theory. I mean I’m pretty sure I voted!
I’ve been trying to figure out how Daschle could even process the words “I don’t think it was taken off the table completely. It was taken off the table…”
I love the “deflect the blame game”. David are you sure this clarification wasn’t written by Obama? Probably not, Obama would have just blamed the hippies.
I think the last part of your comment is exactly the most disgusting thing about this administration and the thing that makes us the most angry. It’s one thing to be incompetent or to screw us over but it’s another thing entirely to do both and then lie in our faces for 9 months. It looks like they were just laughing at us the entire time and patting themselves on the back for being so “smart”.
we can get harry reids view on the matter when he writes his book after getting his AZZ handed to him by the crazy lady..
What a stupid asshole.
Now that you know he made a deal to squash the public option you can quit your whining and get off your irresponsible asses and vote for the man’s party.
Could you imagine a more boring book than Harry Reid’s Bio?
DDay, I’m not sure it’s bothering him all that much.
No. Unless he reveals something like him blowing Chuck Grassley while Olympia Snowe watched and masturbated.
I’m sure Mark Kleiman has a perfectly sensible explanation for this.
What frustrates me to no end in trying to discuss this issue with the apologentsia is that it’s the same people now saying “stop being defeatist, they did the best they could do, yada yada yada” who *at the time this was happening* kept counseling everyone to be quiet, just wait, just wait, just wait, wait and see the 11-dimensional results, trust them, they know what they’re doing…. You could see it by how people reacted to Matt Taibbi’s claim that “the fix is in” back in July of 2009.
Of course they think we are stupid…it’s why I have checked out from Dem party politics.
If Obama gets re-elected in 2012 it won’t be because of me.I don’t vote GOP.
oh bullshit.
the fascists NEVER had the kind of senate or house majorities “we” have had, and it did NOT stop Raygun or Bushy, and all the Dems can do is whine about 60 votes or some such other crap.
IF you want to accept the Dems f’king lies, AND, IF you want to accept the constraints the spineless f’k Dems put on themselves to sell us out, AND, IF you want to pass along those lies about those constraints – go for it! Trying to pretend your “reality” is acceptable is humorous.
rmm.
I’m starting to respect Newt & Saint Ronnie & Doofus Accomplished more and more everyday.
at least they were bona fide liars out to sell us all out to the fascist scum.
getting sold out by the Obama Rahm Geithner Summers Daschle Clinton … crowd makes me regret EVERY democratic vote I made since I was 22 in ’82.
rmm.
I don’t want to be rude, but how fucking delusional are you?
If they had actually TRIED to benefit average citizens, instead of using HCR as a bargaining chip for sinecures and kickbacks, they had plenty of fucking votes. We gave him a Democratic MAJORITY in both houses, remember?
I hope you don’t write the history books. Fuck.
We are complete idiots–at least the people I have spoken with about this subject. They all think I’m some extremist nutjob and that there is NO WAY Obama dealt away the public option while still claiming support for it in public. That is why we’ll get no traction running a primary against Obama in 2012 and all the complete idiots will line up to support him against the Republican boogeyman/woman. Uhg! Wake me when its over.
The largest mandate since FDR squandered with back room deals. And then we’re told “That’s the best we could get in the Senate”, neglecting to point out that the deal was made at the WH six months before the final vote.
Pathetic.
Not only did the Administration make the deal. They let their supporters work their butts off for months, spending their time and money, trying to achieve something they had made impossible.
David Dayen is upstairs!
Feingold Refuses DSCC Money
If Tom Daschle gets a larger role in this administration, I just might have to throw up.
Jeez, and I was just about to sit down to dinner.
The White House would just say that they flushed their money down the toilet!
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http://tinyurl.com/342kvbt
When the budget reconciliation Senate health bill amendments were going into the discussion stage, many Dems said they would introduce the public option and get is passed for the 10 year life of a law passed by budget reconciliation.
Then overnight we ;earned that Obama did not want the public option in a bill that could pass with only 51 votes.
I did not understand the reasoning then, and do not understand it now.
Why Obama feared crossing the corporations more than screwing the left and breaking a campaign promise was just more than my brain could parse.
I do not see the professional left helping the top line of the ticket in 2012 if Obama is on it.
Eli is upstairs!
Why Does The Humane Society Hate Puppies?
Please… could you be more melodramatic?
Well, that is just stupid. Unless you are actually a Republican.
How about we get off our asses and work some real progressive candidates into the system from the ground up like the Rea-Tarty Party does?
Tom Daschle just confirmed by his “revelation” he’ll be O’s permanent COS. His former aid was just keeping the seat warm.
They’re known as suckers, chumps, and marks or “arm chair liberals.”
“The public option was dropped only when it was no longer viable in Congress”
If that’s the current spin, then give the date when the PO was no longer viable and who in Congress made it no longer viable – vague generalities don’t count.
The problem with the Obama defense – “he’s doing the best he can” – for the legislation passed and what he does as executive is that it holds no water (except to be used as cover for tribal partisanship). Afterall, couldn’t Bush defenders say Bush did the best job he could so it was OK to cut deals with PhRMA and engage in other such activities – Obama has the weakest case since he had a super-majority in Congress plus Biden available to cast the tie-breaking vote for reconciliation. Presidents aren’t graded on a curve. Also Obama in particular shouldn’t be whining when people raise issues about process since Obama made such a distinction between himself and Bush with how his processes would be different Bush’s only to then go and have Bill Tauzin on his speed dial and then do everything he could to avoid negotiations on C-Span.
“My Pet Goat” would be a better read.
Don’t forget that the U.S. electorate is the most ill educated, naive and down right ignorant of any electorate in the “advanced” world. They wear their ignorance as a badge of honor whether it be a teabagger, birther or “loyal” Democrat.
Can u imagine what the “real” deal must have been? I’m sure Barry and his gang got plenty of real graft delivered to some secret bank accounts. These people are criminals we elected.
Not to cynical right? These are some ruthless MOFOS.
We Progressives must not miss this important point!
What POLL said that americans wanted the BOB DOLE HEALTH CARE BILL, more than they wanted the USA economy fixed? NO POLL said this!
OBAMA and the other phony Dems in DC, made Health Care and ISSUE with their crooks in the corporate media. The Health Care debate and bill should have never seen the light of day. The only issue in the USA the last 20 months has been the economy.
Has the USA economy been fixed? NO!!!
OBAMA is a complete disgrace to office of president! What real USA President would have ignored main street USA, and decided to make health insurance companies richer during a depression? NONE
Obama is now worse than HOOVER! at least HOOVER knew it is the economy stupid.
I’ll be more blunt.
If this is the best Obama can do then we need a new President. The middle class is dead. The economy is morbid. Wall St was bailed out with our money, and now the hand writing is in the wall that Obama wants Social Security gutted to help pay for tax cuts for the rich, the losing War On Terror, and a massive Wall St bailout.
And the kicker is that what he had to do was a known quantity. He just had to follow in FDR’s foot steps, build on FDR’s legacy, and act like the Obama that campaigned and won the vote.
Perhaps you’re talking to the wrong people.
There is minority sentiment for Dump Obama, and it hasn’t even been run up the flagpole yet. At this moment, there is a small save-the-Democrats frenzy. On the bloody morning after, people are going to have to take a hard look at what Obama has wraught.
Dump Obama will happen.
And that is why I think O will not run in 2012.
You got that right. I’m tired of being thrown under the bus by the DINOs and the ‘centrists’. I want to drive the effing bus over them, instead.
Note that Jane reported this story FDL in July 2009. Where did she get that information?
Christ, Daschle is such a tool. The lesson that should have been learned from Clinton is, fuck Robert Byrd, pass Healthcare reform by a reconciliation bill (as it happened, Byrd had changed his mind on the issue anyway). If Clinton had attached a healthcare bill to his 1993 budget reconciliation bill (which was signed at the start of August recess), he could have passed it before the healthcare lobbies had time to get their act together. Obama could have done it instead.
A reconciliation bill by necessity must be a “public health plan” since a budget bills could adjust spending or taxes but couldn’t impose private insurance market reforms (yet if everyone has access to a Medicare plan, who cares).
In fact, there was a bill in the hopper that would have expanded the Medicare system to provide 100% coverage and didn’t just bend the cost curve, but actually reduced National Health Expenditures its very first year (which would have been 2011, not 2014).
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5749
There is no non-corrupt explanation for the White House to instead put its weight behind Baucus’s bill, which as the charts at the link shows, was 3rd best at providing universal coverage and 8th best at cost-containment.
I don’t think Obama’s gonna run.
And what scares me the most is who WILL be on the ticket.
One of them will be A General, most likely.
And HRC will serve as the shill coverup for the fact we’ve had a military coup staged at the polls.
and yet still FDL was “Public Option” sparkle pony central all the way to the end, with Single Payer banned from the front page with strict message discipline.
curious, hmmm?
Daschle explains Obama’s “quid pro quo” with lobbyist Karen Ignagni:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PwqSCJmbxk
I agree with you, I have a hunch Obama decides not to run in 2012
or
The elites have calculated that Obama will be just as hated as Bush in 2012, so the idea of having their trojan horse Obama run in 2012 is to make sure their other Trojan Horse wins!
at the end of day, the elites want the USA to stay on the current rightward path. (their is little to no difference between the GOP and DEMS, the american people have been CON, by the corporate media. Obama is the Tea Party, what about Obama says FDR? JFK? LBJ? nothing) All war is base on Deception says Sun Tzu
I also think the elites fear, losing all control of the tea party movement they help create.
The elites should have never mix church and state, this is creating a huge problem for the GOP.
The other big problem hurting the elites is the economy. (For instance only an INSANE president would have tried to pass the Bob Dole Health Care Bill in the middle of a depression. Obama either is a moron, or a complete corporate sell out! To force such a toxic bill on the USA, in the middle of a depression was crazy, this Health care bill could unite the Left and Right, and some states it has, which terrifies the elites)
the corporate media is critical to everything the Obama white house does.
The american people are starting to ask, why is Lindsey Lohan bigger news than the current Economy? Why is the NFL, more important than Main Street?
Can you imagine, FDR and the congress of the 1930′s being covered by news media of their time, like Obama is covered by the media of today? No
(the USA media is biggest JOKE in the WORLD, Fox News is on par with Benny Hill SHow, or Bugs Bunny) No nation will remain a super power with populace full of MORONS
The Military, THe Corporations, The Corporate Media, have already taken over the USA, base on the current media we have today. (Imagine if the CHinese, Russians, Iran, etc brought Fox News, what would the USA military DO? Who news a nuclear bomb when you have Fox News??? and the other silly news cast in the USA???
I think the elites also fear Physics!
They know for every action there is a reaction of the same magnitude.
People know when their kids are hungry? Homeless, Clothless, etc. and this is when they lose it.
After what the Dems have done with healthcare and wallstreet bailouts, won’t be voting for Dems as the party has gone corp. Either 3rd party or stay home.
They banked on people having no choice, but choice is stay home or vote for 3rd party.
Yes, if our Founder Father’s wanted a general to become President, surely they would selected a general to be our first– oh wait.
The Man from New Amsterdam (he’ a New Yorker with immigrant Dutch parents) is probably the Republican’s strongest candidate, If he runs and wins, he’s president fair and square. There’s nothing about a “military coup” to it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus
http://www.livingroomcandidate.org/commercials/1952/the-man-from-abilene
“In the next round of health reform, and there has to be a next round, the influence of the hospital industry must be taken into account.”
David, The only reason the neoliberal Obama and Congress didn’t give away the store in one fell swoop, is that it would have been politically untenable. The neoliberal mantra is PRIVATIZE and create a rentier society.!!!
HCR is their template for S.Sec.
Embrace that frame, and never let go of it.
Okay, they gave away drug re-importation, public option, anti-trust exemption removal etc etc. for Campaign dollars. So they can ditch the majority who have rejoiced at their victory just one and half year back and were hoping for second FDR like term.
What I never hear about is how did they got us into the IRS enforced mandates for NOT taking insurance premiums those companies do not even know how they calculate. Do they understand a reason someone takes that Huge Personal risk of not having medical insurance is NOT because one has a huge boat-load of money to think about wealth management but because one needs to put food on the table and take care of personal obligations which vary from family to family.
If HCR started as No public Option but Yes on Mandates trust me it would NOT have even made out of the congressional committee.
On Social Security our best hope is Grid-lock in the congress. Whatever logical sounding options are given at the start right at the end of bait and switch we will see the surprise social security gutting move. When we have FDR or LBJ with like-minded congress which we will get sooner or later we will know they will do the right thing and we can allow them to put in the logical changes.
Social security will do full payouts till 2036 and it a long time before which we will get a FDR or LBJ with like-minded congress. So lets request Congress to get into grid-lock if anything related to Social Security comes along to keep us all safe from the Wall Street induced depression which they practised to quite a art as seen recently in May 2010 and last seen in full form during Fall 2008 elections for getting debt loaded onto our future generation balance sheets.
And keep in mind, too, that most, if not all, of the hospital/insurance/pharmaceutical executives on the other side from the pro-public option American people in the health care reform deal are now donating tons of money to the Republicans, with the actual corporations they run (now that they are people, too) donating directly, but secretly to Republican/Teabagger front groups.
IOW, the Republicans have promised to repeal Obama’s health care reform “triumph,” which would mean a repeal of the deal struck between the hospitals and Obama, generating $155 billion more in profits over the next ten years for the hospitals. And drug reimportation barely failed (with the help of some Blue Dog Democrats and all the Republicans), so the pharmaceutical companies would definintely prefer seeing more Republicans (and Blue Dogs) doing their bidding in Congress. And we know where the anti-public option, anti-universal single payer insurance companies stand.
President Obama made a deal with the devils of Big Business, making large concessions while receiving small ones in return (which Big Business is already trying to unravel or get around), and it is now hurting Democratic Party chances in the mid-terms. Go figure.
And yet, I’m still voting straight Democratic Party ticket in November. The strained sanity Tea Party alternative is just too nauseous, along with the idea of Orang-U-Tan Boehner possibly being House speaker.
As long as the American Left believes that making requests and petitioning Congress will yield anything other than grave disappointment, they will find themselves butt naked welcoming right wing totalitarianism into our midst.
Congrassional Democrats worship at the altar of neoliberalism, as does Obama: Free Trade, Deregulated Markets, and Private ownership.
The Left has been spun and completely neutered as evidenced by the fact that any mention of violence @ FDL is strictly censored, voting for violence, OTOH, is encouraged….
Funny, on HP the headline is about the sorry state of health care in the USA, but Daschle’s revelation isn’t to be found on the home page, it is buried at the bottom of the politics section, with only 163 comments. I guess they don’t care that things won’t be getting any better under the flaming fudge bag of a law they left on our front step.
They apparently repeatedly censored my attempts on the comments section of relevant articles to point out the connections Lieberman and Bayh had to big health insurance via article links, so yeah, I don’t think HP is the great beacon for progressive that too many people make it out to be.
Also, just a brief reminder – President Obama nominated Daschle to be Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Daschle’s nomination was derailed due to some embarrrassing tax issues, but another issue that was being raised was whether he had been working essentially as an unregistered lobbyist for the healthcare industry in an effort to sidestep the rules about moving back and forth from government to industry as a lobbyist.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/03/opinion/03tue1.html
At any rate, he was the insider’s insider when it came to healthcare “reform”. I wouldn’t be surprised if it came out that he actually negotiated the deal on the side of the healthcare industry.
I guess we can also stop wondering why President Obama campaigned so hard for Blanche Lincoln – it was her reward for being willing to be the scapegoat for offing the public option.
And yes, if President Obama was capable of the kind of sham and pretense that this revelation shows, who would be astonished if cutting Social Security hadn’t already been pre-negotiated before the showpiece executive order Catfood Commission was even created?
The whole health care debate was to shift focus, for the first term, from not winding down the wars and prosecuting torture traitors.
It worked, nothing else of any importance was discussed because of the “remaking of the health care system”. BS
Perfect shills for the corporate oligarchy no doubt.
This is what happens when there is no meaningful rein on campaign spending — and the forces of evil have all the money.
http://www.publicampaign.org.
Colorado Senator Bennet, who is up for reelection in 4 weeks voted for Canadian reimportation of pharmaceuticals. Senator Udall, who doesn’t face reelection until 2014, voted against reimportation and it failed to achieve 60 votes.
Response to stevedaly@ 79
Here is a good summary of the backstory. It was not long after this that Dorgan announced he was not running for re-election. I personally think he was just overwhelmed by disgust at what happened to his bill.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/15/doughnuts-for-dorgan-drug_n_393527.html
I have heard a few people say “How would Daschle know?”
Here’s how Daschle would know:
In light of all subsequent events, these articles are sickmaking.
This absolute concrete betrayal was the end for me. THE END. Cue the music. The Democrats are a sham and there is no point voting for them when they are swindling us before our eyes. I guess I should be ashamed it took me this long. But my insurance premiums went up again, and they are going to tie it to our health for the premiums. Thanks Obama!
The Obama administration betrayed the people of this country by allowing health care to remain profit driven. All that time and capitol for a victory that will make very few lives any better. For what end-to have a propaganda talking point?
“We have a historic victory. We REFORMED health care.” What a crock of utter shit. This kind of craven hollow propaganda makes them worthless. They just want us to play along. Do they believe their own lies now? Because I ain’t playing.
R U a brainwashed individual? Melodramatic? Any facts from you? Lets put it this way, systemic sodomization! If you are not capapble of understanding the correlation, GFY!
I agree with you! Limp Dicks……
Of course, Medicare Part E and its emasculated cousin, The Public Option were not legitimate subjects of discussion. They weren’t among the Stakeholders that were invited to the party. So, the claim that, “it’s the Congress,” is a load of crap. Both Medicare expansion and a Public Option were excluded from the very beginning.
So, my question to the Progressive Caucus is, “When did you guys realize you were screwed, and what had you planned to do about it?”
So, my question to you is, when will you realize that the Progressive Caucus is part of the screw-over, and what do you plan to do about it?