I wasn’t the only one to deride the FHFA’s ingenious plan to end the foreclosure fraud crisis. Indeed, the reliance on internal reviews, and encouragement to engage in more foreclosures, raised the eyebrows of many housing advocates and prominent politicians. Now, six Senate Democrats have sent a letter to FHFA Acting Director Ed DeMarco and top regulators on the systemic risk council (including Geithner and Bernanke) calling for legitimate action on the servicers, who have no specific federal regulator.
The six Democrats – Sherrod Brown, Barbara Boxer, Sheldon Whitehouse, Debbie Stabenow, Tom Harkin and Mark Begich – pushed back on the idea that these are merely technical errors, as the FHFA letter intimates, rather than systematic violations of the law:
There have been attempts to dismiss the reported violations as minor technical paperwork errors, and to employ the defense that these were harmless errors because the homeowners were in foreclosure and would have lost their houses anyway. These are not technicalities, they are not isolated cases – it is likely that over 200,000 foreclosures have now been suspended – and these improprieties cast doubt on the foreclosures in question.
Rather than a few rogue employees disregarding company policy, the policies themselves were flawed, indicating that there is a systemic problem with the manner in which loss mitigation and foreclosure operations are being conducted by most, if not all, mortgage servicers. This pattern of behavior has undermined the integrity of the housing market, creating uncertainty for home sales and the availability of title insurance.
We shouldn’t be reassuring the banks and their servicers that they’ll make it through this all right, we should be filling out criminal charges. The banks basically never changed their policies from the questionable lending practices of the subprime mortgage scandal – they couldn’t be trifled with basic legal procedures, and they hired a bunch of incompetents to push the paperwork. When the defaults rose, the same gang of idiots failed to provide any relief for homeowners through mortgage modification. And now they’re breaking the laws surrounding foreclosure, to cover up for their other fraudulent activities with proper mortgage assignment.
While this has started to become an election issue, with familiar battle lines, it should be noted that only Barbara Boxer among these six is up for re-election. I do think this issue resonates and is pretty clear:
To Cuban-born Jose Martinez, 65, a lifelong Republican from the Miami area who works in liquor manufacturing and export, “It seems like a joke that we are a country with laws and the banks keep stealing.”
As for remedies, the Senators suggest forcing the servicers to work with homeowners to modify loans, to impose “tailored moratoriums” for certain lenders as per their authority as regulators of banks and non-bank institutions that are the parent companies of the servicers, and to “review and reform” the financial incentives that make it beneficial for the servicers to foreclose. They are looking at the issue in a comprehensive way and beyond the “technical errors” argument which is clearly false.
One Democrat, Alan Grayson, has gone further: he wants the FBI and the local US Attorney to prosecute criminal activities by the banks in Florida. Grayson spoke today in front of the home of Nancy Jacobini, who had her home broken into by a contractor for JPMorgan Chase in a case of mistaken foreclosure. Here’s a sample of the letter:
It is not enough for big banks only to apologize for fraud, perjury, and even breaking and entering – when they are caught. It is time for handcuffs. Fraud does not become legal just because a big bank does it [...]
To give but two of the many available examples, attached is a deposition from an ex-employee of one of the largest ‘foreclosure mills’ in the state, the Law Offices of David Stern. In it, this employee testifies under oath that it was routine for that office to falsify documents regarding military records, in order to move foreclosure cases along more quickly [...] fundamentally, this is a question of protecting basic property rights – if you don’t own it, then you shouldn’t try to take it. Without clear property rights, and a legal system that insists on clear proof of those rights before transferring ownership by force, the economy will fall apart.
Absolutely right. This pressure needs to continue.
The full text of the letter from Sherrod Brown and the other Senate Dems is below.
October 14, 2010
The Honorable Timothy Geithner
Secretary, United States Department of the TreasuryThe Honorable Shaun Donovan
Secretary, United States Department of Housing and Urban DevelopmentThe Honorable Benjamin Bernanke
Chairman, Board of Governors of the Federal ReserveThe Honorable Jon Leibowitz
Chairman, Federal Trade CommissionMr. John Walsh
Acting Comptroller of the CurrencyMr. Edward DeMarco
Acting Director, Federal Housing Finance AdministrationDear Secretary Geithner, Secretary Donovan, Chairman Bernanke, Chairman Leibowitz, Mr. Walsh, and Mr. DeMarco:
You are no doubt aware of the recently reported improprieties in the foreclosure processes employed by some of our nation’s largest mortgage servicers. Unfortunately, these reports are consistent with complaints that we have heard from our constituents alleging behavior on the part of servicers and foreclosure law firms, popularly referred to as “foreclosure mills,” that would constitute bad faith at best, outright abuse at worst. All of these practices raise serious questions about the integrity of mortgage servicers’ loss mitigation and foreclosure processes, from their modification procedures to their foreclosure pleadings.
There have been attempts to dismiss the reported violations as minor technical paperwork errors, and to employ the defense that these were harmless errors because the homeowners were in foreclosure and would have lost their houses anyway. These are not technicalities, they are not isolated cases – it is likely that over 200,000 foreclosures have now been suspended – and these improprieties cast doubt on the foreclosures in question.
Rather than a few rogue employees disregarding company policy, the policies themselves were flawed, indicating that there is a systemic problem with the manner in which loss mitigation and foreclosure operations are being conducted by most, if not all, mortgage servicers. This pattern of behavior has undermined the integrity of the housing market, creating uncertainty for home sales and the availability of title insurance.
The systemic problems that are being uncovered in the current mortgage market are remarkably similar to the predatory practices employed during the subprime mortgage crisis. These difficulties stem from the fact that servicers lack the proper oversight and incentives to follow basic procedures required either by mortgage contracts, pooling and servicing agreements, or state and federal laws. Homeowners have no leverage in the modification process and federal agencies (including the Treasury Department) have yet to impose meaningful penalties for noncompliance. It is time for the government to restore some sanity and oversight to the housing market. Your agencies are in a unique position to address this problem because your agencies have various authorities over, or relationships with, bank and non-bank mortgage servicers.
First, you can require loss mitigation prior to foreclosure to eligible homeowners facing hardship, where consistent with investor interests, subject to meaningful penalties. Such a requirement would focus servicers’ efforts to assist homeowners. It would also establish clear repercussions for servicers who fail to participate in loss mitigation in good faith.
Second, your agencies have the ability to impose your own tailored moratoriums on foreclosures for certain identified lenders, pending assurances that such lender’s paperwork complies with state and federal requirements; proper ownership documentation is in order; and all contracts and loss mitigation requirements under those contracts have been followed. The banks are focusing solely on their affidavit processes, but a more comprehensive review is required. Failures to comply with all of these requirements should be penalized.
Finally, your agencies have the authority to review and reform the financial incentives for servicers and foreclosure mills. Mortgage servicers have been accused of imposing unfair fee arrangements in modification contracts and foreclosure pleadings, and foreclosure mills are paid on a per-case fee basis. These arrangements benefit the mortgage companies to the detriment of homeowners.
Congress has a role to play in addressing this crisis as well. But your agencies have tools at your disposal to address the substantial challenges facing homeowners in the mortgage market, and you are able to respond more nimbly than Congress to this emerging crisis. The ample record of homeowner abuse should compel you to act expeditiously in the best interest of homeowners and investors.
Thank you for considering our views. We await your response to the ongoing developments of the foreclosure crisis.
Cc: Mr. David Stevens, Commissioner, Federal Housing Administration
Ms. Elizabeth Warren, Assistant to the President and Special Advisor to the Secretary of the Treasury on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
Mr. Timothy Massad, Chief Counsel, Office of Financial Stability, United States Department of the Treasury



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This story right now is King Kong in the theater, right before he breaks the chains and runs amok. The banksters thought they had this successfully corralled, but it’s taking on a life of its own.
And actually, the crisis is growing bigger by the moment.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/10/mortgage-market-breakdown-by-equitydelinquency/
Unless and until some of the people responsible for this mess walk the plank in handcuffs, long term reform will merely be a pipedream. This election year sloganeering by the Democrats is nothing more than window dressing. GOLDMAN SACHS, CITI-GROUP, BANK OF AMERICA, and the rest of the fraud organizations need to be broken up and the current crop of managers arrested and jailed forever…………………….
Fret not; the Banksters will go unrepentant into that good night, unfettered by criminal charges (subset of too big to fail) and investors will be paid by AIG ;—[
Don’t worry, nothing to see here. Once the election’s over, if she manages to stay in office, Babs won’t have a concern in the world about this. Any sympathy she shows for either real justice or the common folk is merely a campaign facade.
Can someone please tell me how a faux note owner (aka pretender lender) can modify a loan it doesn’t own, if it can’t foreclose on a note it doesn’t own?
On 12/30/2008, Jill D. Rein, managing attorney of Pierce & Associates, PC (representing mortgage Servicer Wells Fargo in a wrongful foreclosure proceeding in Chicago, IL), acted as an officer of MERS and recorded in the land record an affidavit of assignment from MERS to Wells Fargo 30 days after filing complaint to foreclose. We rescinded the loan in April of 2008 for fraud and non-disclosure, and the Lender failed to take action under TILA, we stopped paying as TILA provides, in August, 2008. On 12/1/08 Wells Fargo, who was not the owner of the debt, filed the complaint to foreclose. As soon as we made appearance, the Servicer’s attorney recorded the perjurous affidavit. The affidavit is notarized but not dated, and no copy of assignment was recorded with it, it states that MERS, on behalf of the Lender, hereby assigns the Note, Mortgage, and Premises, for value and without warranty or recourse, to Wells Fargo.
#1 The Lender sold it’s interest in the Note and Mortgage in July, 2005, to a securitizer, and was paid in full, so MERS cannot be acting “on behalf” of the Lender in 2008.
#2 Wells Fargo lacks legal standing as it has no interest in the Note, Mortgage, or Premises. No assignment was ever filed by the Lender.
#3 MERS is not allowed to transfer or convey real property or Notes, pursuant to it’s member rules, and MERS was not given an Lender’s interest in the Note to be able to assign it.
#4 Jill Rein is also the co-chair of Mortgage Banker’s Association, and has committed perjury by causing the affidavit to be filed in the land record to cloud title.
#5 TILA prohibits any debt collection, including foreclosure, when the right to rescind is exercised – Wells Fargo colluded with it’s attorneys and MERS by filing fraudulent paper to facilitate foreclosure.
We filed action for the Lender’s FRAUD and Wells Fargo’s fraudulent, retaliatory behavior: ILND 1:2009cv02115 Arriaga et al v Wells Fargo.
Wells Fargo says it’s records show that the affidavits are proper. Well, Wells Fargo, your records were signed by people who didn’t even read them, so how do you know they are proper? Go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass go or collect $200.The Lender made a raw deal by overappraising our property, equity was in rescission but was refused by Lender, then we were financially destroyed by the Servicer’s retaliatory and fraudulent practices. Wells Fargo now owes us more than the balance of the original debt in actual damages.
Yeah. Funny how I only hear Boxer’s name mentioned every six years. When they do this when we’re not a month from an election, I’ll be impressed. This is how I expect them to behave so I’m not going to clap too loudly. I wish they had taken this strong a stand a long, long time ago on many, many important issues.
Where is Warren? This is consumer fraud. She should be saying the banks can’t be trusted to resolve this.
The Mortgage Fraud Scandal Is The Biggest In Human History:
http://www.businessinsider.com/mortgage-fraud-scandal-2010-10
Interesting read. Asks Obama to take action with a bank holiday and foreclosure freeze.
I’ll be honest. I think there’s snowball’s chance in hell Obama would do any of that unless he thought his political future was on the line. But then, he’s pretty much toast if he thinks Geithner and Bernanke can make extend and pretend work until 2012 too.
Wow!
Good to see there is some traction on this issue. Grayson’s letter has some specifics and is more believable thereby. There should be an investigation there and handcuffs should be involved. I would also say that any employee who engages in this sort of fraud should also go in hand cuffs. A guy like dimon who in his own analyst presentation calls this “minor” should be led away in cuffs for SEC violations of false reporting, if they find anything that leads to fraud by his bank.
Still don’t know if she has a budget to investigate this stuff. But good question.
So, what’s your prediction?
It doesn’t take a budget to state that banks — the perpetrators — can’t be trusted to “resolve” the crisis.
It will have to be a very fast snowball in hell to make it. (someone else said that.) No, he is unlikely to do that. It could cause a panic and I’m not sure he has the authority. But he may soon. right after this thing gets loose and sends wall street to the mat.
Easy. With an fraudulent and perjurous affidavit of assignment filed by the Servicer’s attorney (pretending to be a MERS officer).
Do you have money for a lawyer? No? Oh well, then you are a dream borrower come true for Wells Fargo. what are YOU going to do about it?
Since they do not have standing or a right to be paid, that affidavit works to fool you, and the courts, and since you fall for it, you sign up for a mod. When you do, you sign a NEW NOTE (you give the “pretender lender” an interest it can later foreclose upon).
I have four friends that have mods and within 7 months they were in foreclosure again – the Home Mods are being used by the Servicers to squeeze a bit more money out of the homeowner before messing up thier escrow – in the end, a default is caused which enables foreclosure, and now the Servicer has a REAL NOTE to foreclose with.
The banks — and Wall Street — have already staked out their argument: It’s the deadbeats that failed to pay their mortgage.
Jaime Galbraith is saying the same thing.
Bob in AZ
Geithner/Obama continue to back TBTF banks. I don’t think its the right thing to do – even politically, but I think Obama’s too stubborn to change course.
I’m probably wrong so take this with a grain of salt. But I thought the questions were over who has legitimate lien on the home, not who owned the loan. Probably wrong again.
This is going to be an object lesson in what happens to a highly trusted independent expert when he/she is co-opted by the WH.
It will take all of Warren’s considerable intelligence and finesse to avoid having her reputation totally trashed by sitting idly by, while Obama and Geithner protect the banks.
I watched that last night. Excellent speech.
It’s funny how there was much talk about how the banks had ripped off the American people from November ’08 till about January ’09, and then it all got very quiet. I think the people saying this – Stiglitz, Galbraith, Black, and others were somewhat taken aback when it became apparent Obama was going to continue the Paulson/Bush bailout policy.
Who has a right to the payments.
Well, now that 50 state AGs are on the case, it will be harder to weasel out of. Furthermore, there are a whole lot of pension fund managers who have a dog in this fight, too. In fact, there are a whole lot of people with dogs in this fight. The FHFA is going to look pretty stupid about this, and it won’t be long.
Bob in AZ
Well, if the question is one of who has a right to the payments, then zonel’s point above is valid. If no one knows who owns the loan and has a right to the payments, then no one can modify the loan.
That’s key.
I totally agree with you. Events are (hopefully) spinning beyond Geithner’s ability to control. I wonder how any of those 50 states have pension funds that bought toxic crap. They will NOT give this fight up easily.
Because banks can. Who’s gonna stop them.
At lunch today we had a discussion about patents. One of the aspects of filing patent is that the knowledge becomes public once the patent is filed but before it is approved. Thus deep pockets steal it, and the small inventor doesn’t have enough dough to fight the lawsuits against the deep pocket thief.
Ditto mortgages. Banks have deep pockets, homeowners have no dough. Deep pockets win.
Yep, us deadbeats that have 10′s of thousands in savings, 3 401k’s, never a missed payment on anything, perfect credit for 22 years, a home we lived in for 17 years (a 2005 refinance f’d up the equity, hence the reason for TILA rescission in 2008), making $85K a year, putting 44K down on our home when we first purchased it.
Oh yeah, and on average, $20K of that $85K went to Uncle Sam.
We were tricked and lied to – and due to Wells Fargo’s tactics AFTER we cancelled the refi, we have lost all but our home.
Wanna hear something really funny? We never had a contract or bank account with Wells Fargo, and never applied for a loan with Wells Fargo. The Lender was paid in full 30 days after closing of the refi, by God knows who – but that “who” has never sent us a notice of default and first off, never rescinded pursuant to TILA.
I’m not the only “deadbeat”. There are several more victims of this crime, that I know of – and thousands posted on the ‘net, way before this became public.
Wells Fargo is a deadbeat, and a dishonest and unetical one, at that.
Bill McCollum(R) AG, has finally issued a subpoena for a Foreign Corporation mortgage company doing business in Florida.
Perennial Coattail Rider McCollum was angry over losing the Gubernatorial Primary to Medicare Fraud Criminal Rick Scott.
It looks like McCollum is trying to cozy up to Alex Sink(D – Blue Dog).
and now the Servicer has a REAL NOTE to foreclose with.
Oh! Oh! Thank you.
Well, I’m still confused. It seems all of these events are occurring during foreclosure. Thus, it seemed the question was one of whether or not they had the authority to foreclose. If the question is one of who gets paid, i.e. who owns the loan, then folks not even in any trouble may not know who to make payments to. In other words, it’s not a foreclosure crisis, it’s a credit fruad crisis.
Remember, this is all about Risk Management. Executives at these companies looked at the costs of following the law as opposed to the chance of loss/cost/criminal penalties, and decided to break the law. Go for the risk management meetings, folks.
I think this is the iceberg easing up along side the ship.
This country has been slowly dying of not only greed and hate but also just plain old incompetence for the past 30-40 years.. The schools of a nation can’t produce illiterates ignorant of history for very long before it begins to take hold in all the institutions.
That’s been done. We need facts to back it up, a little like Grayson has only systemic one. People waving their arms won’t do it.
Exactly.
Here’s some:
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/10/examples-massive-foreclosure-errors/
I would assume that the organizations that have been trying to track this will be working with State AGs at some point:
http://4closurefraud.org/
Lawyers often find success pursuing Class Action Suits. Mortgage Fraud is so rampant, there may be a way to fight and win in a class action.
Lawyers are generally the only party that really benefits in Class Action Credit Card Cases. The Class ends up with Five bucks per plaintiff.
Maybe homeowners will fare better in these Mortgage Fraud Cases.
Actually, this is exactly right. but it’s the foreclosures that make the fraud crisis headline news, because it hits so close to home (literally).
Bob in AZ
I haven’t followed the details, because the general principles are so clear. I think you are right that the banksters do not have the authority to foreclose in many many, probably the vast majority of the cases. However, my point is, to fight this as an individual you need to have resources, which most people foreclosed on don’t.
One of those super-serious super-sincere experts on foreclosures was on Wash journal in the last couple of days. He was astonished that some huge percentage of foreclosure victims never were in touch with their purported lenders. I fully understand the denial psychological behavior of many who are caught in that vice, which is against their own interests, but emotionally they just couldn’t handle it. Just what I did after 10/87 stock market crash.
But putting that aside, how about all those who made a huge effort to get in touch with their creditors, who went thru endless recorded choices and never could reach a real human, and even if they did could, reached a person who was trained to trash them into submission.
So it’s almost all on the lenders’ misbehavior, consisting of every trick in the book. No need to be confused.
I saw a conversation on CNN today between Ali and Ritholtz. That fellow was doing a lot of arm waving and Ali sort of shot him down. So, I am not sure what to believe. I tend to think there is fraud going on here and that the banks may have lost control over the notes themselves which could be very serious, since the wrong lender may be getting the sales proceeds. And there is plenty of anecdotal evidence of the servicers doing the fraud and misdeeds. They should be in cuffs. I can only hope someone goes after them.
Actually, the underlying problem is that this extent of fraud has now undercut basic, fundamental American concept that underlies American ‘free market’ capitalism: property rights.
Property rights are vested in documents.
If those documents are forged, then you have no rights.
This is lawlessness.
You can’t have markets if there is no way to secure and verify ownership. How can you sell what you don’t own?
It appears that DC is like a deer in headlights, stupidified and trying to stall for time.
Clearly you’re not listening.
Boxer’s a lot more visible than that, and she’s not a DINO like DiFi.
Yup.
But as posaune and I have speculated, this is very, very deep and part of a **huge** system.
I don’t see how this level of fraud could have occurred without gaining control of the exec branch and administrative functions.
Oh, and did you hear that evidently MERS has **no employees**.
How is that even possible, eh?
The shake out of all of this could likely be the collapse of the financial system. The implications for the American public are hair raising. Still, better sooner than later, and in the process of seeking the truth rather than in spite of it.
Yeah, I get all of that. What I can’t wrap my head around is the fact that pols are calling on modifications to the loans as one solution to the crisis. If it’s unclear who own’s the loan, then I can’t for the life of me see who can modify it. I hear you when you say they will do it because they can, but that’s just another level of fraud. No way in hell a promisory note, which is a contract, can be legally modified by someone who isn’t party to that contract.
It’s probably my time of the month or something (if men have them). I can’t seem to focus and think it through without getting all confused.
POr the lenders claim that, anyway.
If you’re trying to get hold of a bank for something like this, all they want to hear from you is ‘I have your payment’.
I hope you are wrong,but I can’t say for sure.
Why are you so puzzled that banks who can get away with fraud do so? Seems pretty simple to me. Do you still labor under the delusion that there’s a rule of law in the U.S. perhaps? There isn’t any rule of law in the U.S. Does that clarify the situation for you?
As for pols, they are the last resort of scoundrels. You don’t really expect them to resort to rule of law except as campaign slogans, do you?
The funny thing is this has ALL been done before. FDR did it:
Bank Holiday: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Banking_Act
Foreclosure Freeze: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frazier%E2%80%93Lemke_Farm_Bankruptcy_Act
He did it by working with Congress (obviously). This was why Obama’s first 100 days was so important, and why the opportunity to attack these problems required bold immediate action. It also meant he had to immediately tell the American people that this problem was much worse than Bush stated, and go after the Republicans hard.
It’s doubtful that he has that opportunity now, and 2010 midterms will put him in survival mode.
OK, well that clears it up for me! :)
Thanks!
Back in the day when I was on Wall St., one of my one-liners (one of my goals in life is to reduce every complex issue to a 15-second sound bite, and you’d be surprised at how often you can do this effectively) was: like with teenagers, the line is only apparent when you go over it. That’s a forecast, not a normative statement. It will be what it will be.
Happy to help. Wish it were more optimistic evaluation. :-(
Nomi Prins:
“The government owns or is backing trillions of dollars worth of assets predicated on the same or similar suspicious loans that defaulted during the 2008 crisis period, which they did nothing to stop (or force banks to restructure).
Instead, the Fed now owns nearly $1.5 trillion of toxic assets that have no bid (meaning no one but the Fed wants them). They would have less of a bid if there was even more uncertainty about the loans that fill them. The Treasury is directly backing $400 billion of government-sponsored entity (GSE) securities, and is indirectly backing another $6.8 trillion. If foreclosed homes couldn’t be sold because of fraudulent paperwork or had to wait for more detailed inspections, you can imagine how difficult selling assets stuffed with faulty loans might be. If it’s tough to find a title for a foreclosed home, think how tough it is to back the related loan out of a pyramid of securities sitting on top of it….”
http://www.alternet.org/economy/148495/why_is_the_white_house_against_freezing_foreclosures_in_the_face_of_rampant_fraud/?page=2
I think he is already in survival mode.
No probs. The FRB will just add those “assets” to its balance sheet. Then all will be well.
Within the millions of “simple administrative errors” are errors as to amount owed, and who owed to, that the judges refuse to review, and the Banks refuse to document. The attitude of the courts must change so that the attitude of the banks changes.
At a technical level MERS as the method (mortgage electronic records) never was authorized by Congress or the regulators – and for good reason as it up ends 400 years of land transfer procedures. At the bank we do not get checks back any more – just an image – but the Banks went to Congress and got a law passed so that it was legal. MERS is someones idea that was developed in the Greenspan era where laws were bad and regulation was worse – and like Bush’s liar loans, is now an uncontrolled disaster. Beyond that the lack of an ownership trail after a pool of loans is sold off, tranched, and resold was an error in execution of the concept of tranching (the original 1970′s securitization by the actuaries did not have a problem here but the things sold by the Street got creative MBA sales person input under Reagan/Bush41 – and under Clinton – Greenspan being the continuing reason for this allowed creativity, and the attention to detail was not that sharp). These technical details can be solved by Congressional law making, but the attitude change in the banks requires tough love – and Obama/Tim are not about to do any such disciplining of the system.
I can’t seem to shake the same sense of foreboding that was suspended throughout the movie: There will be blood….
Good article. Nomi’s been one of the people pointing this out for a long time.
I have to admit, watching this mess unfold since Obama took office has been very painful – like watching a slow motion train wreck. All pretty predictable, and I am by no means very smart about this financial stuff. But I was able to get educated enough by the time Obama took office to know that the Paulson/Geithner/Bernanke plan to “extend and pretend” (government takes all bad debt and recovers when economy grows out of crisis) our way out of this crisis was a very, very tall order. Sorta like asking the country to “walk it off” after it’s been shot in the chest – one cannot “grow” their way out of a corrupt financial system.
I hope it won’t have to come to shooting our way out of it. :-(
The “shot in the chest” was an analogy to demonstrate that the Paulson/Geithner/Bernanke “cure” did not address the real problem – a corrupt financial system.
My comment was a merely a play on your words. The sentiment behind it is real.
I don’t know about “control,” but knowledge, certainly. Geithner knows, in detail, who did what, because as chair of the NY Fed, he has seen the books of most of the active players. But the scope of it, IMHO, scared the sh*t out of him. Besides, on some level, I think he was complicit. So I think he has been trying to find a way out without bringing down the system that he grew up in, and was complicit in. The saving grace, at the moment, for him, is that there are a whole lot of guilty people (and institutions) between him and the people that the 50 State AGs are going after.
“Control” enters in because he could have done a lot more about the fraud, but he chose not to. He may have even made several Faustian bargains with Jaime Dimon and other Wall Street MOTUs, made in the expectation that they could keep the lid on the whole boiling cauldron.
Bob in AZ
How Wall Street Shafted Main Street:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j2esw2B8TI
Too bad Spitzer is still not policing Wall St. He seemed to do a pretty good job. Notice what he said he would immediately do – subpoena all the investment banks.
Do you think this will happen?
Which route is Spitzer advocating? A congressional investigation with subpoena power? Or a DOJ Grand Jury?
The former is more likely– after the election. It would be a nice touch if the congressional committee hired Spitzer as their lead investigator, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Which committee would it be?
Bob in AZ
I assume his old position as staff attorney of Manhattan District Attorney, unfortunately, I think the Congressional investigation is winding down – I’d have to check on that.
The servicers have authority over managing the contract with the borrower, so they certainly can modify the loan, at the very least up to changes to the interest rate or the term of the loan. That has nothing to do with the principal on the mortgage. Principal mods would require them to go through the holder of the MBS, and the investors can sue because they would incur losses on their securities. That’s why the NCRC, when they met with the Fed, holder of a lot of the MBS, urged them to convey support for principal mods, which would mean that they wouldn’t sue.
Fannie and Freddie’s ownership of a lot of the loans can help here as well. But yes, the clouded titles calls absolutely all of this into question at some level.
And the hell of it is, even if you are not in danger of foreclosure, what guarantee do you have that your bank can deliver clear title after you have been paying for decades? What assurance do you have that you are even paying off the right party? That the servicer won’t simply abscond with your payments or just fail to make them to the right party? It has happened.
Exactly what I was thinking! She stands out like a sore thumb in that group.
Obama is neglecting this country probably as a result of criminal corruption on his part. I hope when the republicans impeach him you don’t waste you time defending him. He is not defending the American people.
Oooooooo noooo. Another letter from Democrats?
I hope it was a strongly worded letter.
No shit.
How about working with homeowners to keep people in their homes instead of foreclosing on steroids?
Oh, right, if the banks don’t steal the private property of American citizens, they stand to lose all that cash generated from the same houses they doubled down on defaulting.
If they gamble away the savings of a nation and took livlihoods away, they push the people to the brink.
The only way to stay afloat is to to steal the remaining assets to make up for their mega losses.
Besides technically owning an entire nation, figuratively speaking, all cash dollars would be in their control. Might be a good time for them to change the currency.
Just a thought.
I think it’s more that he feels he’s never wrong. He feels that what he does at a given time in a given situation is always the right thing to do given the circumstances under which he made the decision. It’s the arrogance born of weakness.
All 1099 contractors? Or contractors who are employees of their own companies, like I used to be.
Actually this is much ado about nothing…a technicality.
It will blow over soon…especially after November 2.
Get my drift?