For the second year in a row, there will be no COLA increase for Social Security recipients in 2011. This effects over 58 million retired and disabled Americans, and you would think that such information coming out so close to an election would be difficult news for the party in power. However, House Democrats are making lemonade out of it, vowing to vote in November on a $250, one-time benefit for Social Security recipients. As the average monthly check for Social Security is a little over $1,000 a month, this comes out to effectively a 2% annual increase in the program benefit, which is roughly the inflation level set by the Federal Reserve. The difference in this case is that the $250 wouldn’t get factored into the baseline level for Social Security in future years. But that’s set by the Social Security Administration, not the Congress; a one-time benefit is basically what Congress can do.
Democrats provided a similar $250 benefit for 2009 in the stimulus package. The bill, the Seniors Protection Act, was introduced by Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-ND), who runs the key subcommittee on Ways and Means that oversees Social Security. The White House has supported extending the $250 benefit since last year, but they were unable to get it past the Senate for 2010. However, Speaker Pelosi has vowed to try again. Here’s her statement:
The Seniors Protection Act, introduced by subcommittee Chairman Earl Pomeroy, provides America’s seniors and all Social Security recipients with a one-time payment that will help millions make ends meet during these difficult economic times.
In the event that the Social Security Administration announces it will not provide a Cost-of-Living Adjustment (COLA) for recipients this year, the House will vote to provide seniors with a one-time payment of $250. I have asked the Ways and Means Committee to bring this legislation to the floor during the lame duck session. All Members of Congress should join us in supporting this legislation which will be fiscally responsible and upholds our bedrock promise of economic security for our nation’s seniors.
I assume “fiscally responsible” means that it would include an offset to the spending.
Rank and file members cheered the intended action. Judy Chu (D-CA) said that cuts in local government for seniors needed to be offset with this one-time benefit. Seniors have “had vital benefits slashed as local governments cut programs in response to budget shortfalls. They’ve seen the rising cost of prescription drugs outpace the prices paid for other goods and services. Now is not the time to put their economic security at further risk.” Pomeroy, the bill’s sponsor, who is facing a tough re-election in North Dakota, added, “Passing this bill will ensure that the lack of cost-of-living adjustment will not jeopardize seniors’ ability to survive on their benefits.”
While Democrats across the country could use the Seniors Protection Act as an election-year promise, and while it would fit with many campaigns that have attacked Republican opponents for wanting to privatize or eliminate Social Security, the message could be undercut by the looming fiscal commission, which could issue recommendations to cut benefits even as Democrats seek to pass a bill that would increase them for 2011. Just yesterday at a youth town hall, President Obama asserted the need to strengthen Social Security, and while he preferred the option of raising the payroll tax cap, he left all options “on the table”:
That’s why we’ve got to strengthen it. And I have said that all options are on the table. I think we’ve got to look at how we preserve it for the next generation. I do think that the best way to do it would be to look at the fact that right now you only pay Social Security taxes up to about $106,000, and after that, you don’t pay any Social Security tax. So that means Warren Buffett, who makes more than $100,000 a year, the vast bulk of his income, he doesn’t pay Social Security taxes on it. That could be modified or changed in a way that would help extend the solvency of Social Security.
But this is an area where — I’m sorry, what was the young lady from Austin — this is where Cynthia’s point about bipartisanship is so important. I set up a bipartisan fiscal commission that is made up of Republicans and Democrats to sit and meet over the last several months to start looking at how we generally start reducing our debt and our deficit so we’re not leaving it to the next generation. They’re supposed to report back to me after the election because we specifically designed it so they wouldn’t get caught up with silly season and would be able to just focus on what makes sense.
They’re going to provide that report to us around the 1st of December, and my hope is from there that we can get a Republican-Democratic agreement on how we strengthen Social Security as well as looking at some of these other major expenditures that we have that we’ve got to deal with to make sure that we’re not just leaving you guys with a mountain of debt.
This sort of muddles the message.
UPDATE: The President jumped in strongly in favor of the $250 one-time benefit. Robert Gibbs released this statement:
Many seniors are struggling in the face of the economic downturn, having seen their savings fall. Today’s news that the Social Security Administration will for a second year not provide a cost of living adjustment for social security benefits highlights these struggles. The President will renew his call for a $250 Economic Recovery Payment to our seniors this year, as well as to veterans and people with disabilities. Last year, under the Recovery Act, 56 million people benefited from the first Economic Recovery Payment—including about 50 million Social Security beneficiaries. We’re grateful that Speaker Pelosi has indicated she will bring the new Economic Recovery Payment to a vote and we urge members of Congress on both sides of the aisle to support our seniors, veterans and others with disabilities who depend on these benefits.
I could see this becoming part of the Democratic stump speech in the days to come.




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Did you expect anything else from the President and the Democrats? No viable strategy, no coherent message, same old same old.
Actually, I’m pretty sure it means that they’re just a bunch of assholes.
And by the way, does the inflation rate include the cost of energy and food? Not that people on SS need either one, mind you.
The Media is complicit here. Look at how they are all over this cost of living adjustment story but completely ignore the voices of sanity who are forced to write letters to the editor to get the message out that SS does not need to be cut or to have retirement age raised.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2010/10/16/avoid_peril__lift_tax_cap_to_boost_social_security/
Atta guy, Earl.
While Rethugs resort to childish bullying taunts, Earl quietly gets things done.
The extraordianrily low interest currently being paid on savings is dramatically impacting seniors.
It better be tax-free for the following tax year.
Good Lord!! Divide $250 by 12 months & you get $20..BEFORE TAXES!! So, the elderly are going to be OK? Now, look at all the lunch discounts at the capitol for the congress members, free travel around the world & see who should be cutting back. Our elderly parents or Congress!
No to the answer above. Food & Fuel are EXCLUDED from COLA. Might check out a good book out where some Americans finally take a stand. It’s great read on citizens taking a stand. http://www.booksbyoliver.com
No sh*t (and all the rest of us serfs, too). But where’s the vaunted “populist” Grifter Queen to decry the death panels for granny with the Catfood Commission & lack of COLA for Soc Sec?? Sarah: are you there? No, thought not: too bought off by the corporations that you whore for.
I’ll be repetitive, but any conservative who thinks any T-party candidates are less bought off by the corporations than any incumbent pol is drinking mighty deep from the Kool Aid pitcher.
Typcial shambles from Obamaco, worst Admin in history.
The Obamanible message is transparently clear: Barry believes elections are SILLINESS in season; can’t remember the names of his naive constituents and cares not that it’s knot nice to Hump his STUMP! The youth haven’t caught on yet that like Bush beneath him, Obummer means exactly the opposite of what he spews! He’s counting on his Catfood Commission to champion privatization so he can “compromise” on their backs to elevated eligibility age and reduced benefits!! (Don’t even count on his “soaking the rich” option; remember his PROMISED single-payer, which didn’t even survive the public option “bi-partitionship”)!!!
“Seniors Protection Act”!!! What a load of crap. Who thinks up these titles? Must be the same folks who thought up Bush’s “Clear Skies” initiative. And “Clean Coal.”
Goss from the CBO is talking about raising the eligibility age to 67 and Baucus about how to give incentives for people to retire later:
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/124391-carrots-and-sticks-for-longer-working-lives
The CPI-W, on which SS COLA is based, does include food & energy. To my knowledge, the only purpose for which food & energy are excluded, is for considering the ‘underlying’ (i.e., less volatile) inflation rate, for the purposes of monetary policy. And not only because food & energy are more volatile, but also because food & energy prices are often influenced by supply shocks, rather than being more determined by demand pull, which would happen in a strong economy, and thus is the consideration for monetary policy.
Wouldn’t it be easier just to do the SS COLA say, in March, so it is well out of the headlines by the time the election rolls around? /s
Let ‘em eat “clean coal.”
Thanks for the clarification.
The title of this post says it all.
God what a fucking disgrace this country has been brought to.
Oh, and more banksta bailouts a-comin’. Iran still on the to-do list, too.
FUCK.
Here is the detailed data for the CPI-W. The table does not show the exact comparison used for SS COLA, which as my first link specified, compares the third qtr avg for this year with the third qtr average for the prior year, but it does tell you what’s included in the CPI-W.
You’re welcome.
For me this is the money quote from the Obama speech:
“They’re going to provide that report to us around the 1st of December, and my hope is from there that we can get a Republican-Democratic agreement on how we strengthen Social Security as well as looking at some of these other major expenditures that we have that we’ve got to deal with to make sure that we’re not just leaving you guys with a mountain of debt.”
Mr. President, “You Lie!”
The Social Security system is structured so that it is incapable of adding to or detracting from the national debt. By allowing the Deficit Commission to consider altering Social Security at the same time as considering how to address the deficit, you have conflated the two as belonging to the same budget. The whole reason why Social Security might have a projected shortfall in 2037 and pay less than 100% of benefits is because the Social Security budget is separate from all other Federal Budget entities and it is self-sustaining.
Mr. President, “Stop lying to the people.”
It would be stupid to include offsets for this. You would still need to waive the Budget Act with 60 votes for any increase in the deficit, but are rethugs going to vote to take money from grandma before the election?
SS would never go bankrupt if it were eliminated altogether. /s
Might there be a way of averaging (or otherwise smoothing the time series) for food and energy prices so that the consumer impact could be accounted for in the setting of benefit levels indexed to the CPI?
And this is NOT, repeat NOT in any way similar to George W. Bush’s trick of a one-time tax “rebate”! Because Democrats are better than Republicans, right? Because letting Republicans win elections will be horrible! Because Obama is the bestest president evah and this Democrat-controlled congress is far better than, than. Oh hell, I just can’t keep it up anymore. My parents are in their 80s and they are very conservative spenders (and voters) but even they won’t be fooled by this pathetic play.
Reread my comment. Food & energy are included for SS COLA purposes.
I’m off again.
People who will be eligible for benefits in 2037 are those who were born in 1975 (age 62), 1972 (age 65), or 1967 (age 70). The size of that generational cohort is much smaller than the boomer cohort. How exactly are the studies extrapolating the potential costs? My suspicion is that there are some estimates that are not accounting properly for the smaller group that will be claiming benefits for the first time starting in 2037.
I need to refill my coffee. I missed that. Thanks.
Exactly my thought too when I wrote less than 100% when I do not know with any accuracy what the projected shortfall is based upon and what variance was included in their projections.
But that’s set by the Social Security Administration, not the Congress; a one-time benefit is basically what Congress can do.
The Social Security Administration wasn’t established by the Constitution or by Act of God. Congress has the power to eliminate Social Security tomorrow (good luck for running for re-election on that one) and likewise has the power to double the benefits. Just a matter of getting a majority vote in both Houses and the President’s signature. Someday Democrats will control both Houses and the White House… then watch out!
There are a couple of backdoor way they could provide benefits without changing Social Security benefits. Eliminate (or at least suspend) Medicare Part B premiums. That’s an extra $110 a month in every Social Security, by my math $1320 is more than $250. Another way would be to make Social Security retirement benefit recipients automatically eligible for full food stamp (or SNAP as its called now) benefits. That’s an extra $240 a month, $2880 a year in food benefits.
Obama prefers lifting the cap? Then that option is toast.He’s actually perfidious but he would rather look weak. Neither is attractive.
You know, paying living wages and pensions would do a lot to get people to retire and make jobs available for younger people. I really doubt that most people over 60 want to work until they’re 70 or dead, whichever comes first. (I wish that Congress worked under the same rules and conditions as the rest of us.)
Hmmm … how about doing both AND lowering the age for receiving SS!
I found some supportive evidence for your argument in reading about the protests in France the other day: their youth are vocal about the need for the older folks to retire so that they can get jobs, start their lives, so on:
http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2010/wolff151010.html
Wish I could understand the French spoken in the videos! Darn it!
A lot of younger workers in my profession are very vocal about wishing the oldsters would hurry up & retire and get out of the way… so as to open up jobs for the younger gen. None of us oldsters disagree, and I think many had retirement plans in the works until late summer of 2008 when everything came crashing down.
Now what? Many lost out on savings, some lost out on investments in property and stocks. We’re not getting any kind of interest on “regular” cash accounts, but we’re too leary of doing much the giant ponzi scheme called the Stock market. Plus even those with gov’t pensions are finding those might be in jeopardy.
So now what? Many of pushed back retirement dates, and with the CatFood Commissions reccomendations almost sure to past, many will have to push those dates back even further.
And then what happens for the younger gen? Burdened with college and grad school debt and forced to eke out a living on part-time or non-professional level jobs. It’s really too bad, but what can the boomers do? Even those of us who were frugal (and in my particular profession, many are), we’re still behind the proverbial 8 ball. How can we retire sooner, rather than later? We can’t.
Good going, Obamaco! I hope those kids who came to or watched your rally yesterday wake up and really how badly you’re shafting THEM, most especially. Talk about a lost generation…. no thanks to Obummer.
How, pray tell are seniors supposed to keep working when the jobs have left the nation? Young or old, people can’t get a f__king job.
There isn’t even light at the end of the tunnel.
Congress refuses to stop offshoring jobs and Obama won’t spend a dime to start a jobs program. He’s happy we’re at 10% unemployment, a jobless revocery. WTF?
They have been fudging numbers for months. Every time I read an article from British or German press the US unemployment number is much higher. Today, the Telegraph had us at 17% and climbing.
I wonder how college grads are gonna feel when they gotta compete with 68 year old men for a handful of shitty jobs? Curious that they aren’t all over this, or is their focus on the recent “American Idol” winner?
We can all look forward to emptying trash bins for minimum wage, maybe, at the Ritz Carlton till our SS kicks in, maybe.
This place is truly on the road to perdition.
You can’t buy the vote of most seniors for $250. This will only weaken the Dems chances next month.
Apologies, onitgoes.
Read yours after I posted mine.
Glad to hear there is a generation of people who recognize how the move to extend the retirement age will hurt them.
Well conceived ideas. The children are getting their inheritance 20 years earlier than expected, especially if they cannot find jobs. I hope mine decide to go to greener pastures overseas. We oldsters are behind the 8 ball and also confronting death at the same time. Happy, happy, joy,joy. The youth I spoke to at a Congress-on-your-campus event appeared to be oblivious to the implications of Obama’s targetting of Social Security. Again, I fault the media’s complicity and the blackout on the war on Social Security, the blackout on Peter G. Peterson’s personal and financial vendetta against Social Security and against good government, the blackout on the corporate war against the individual American worker/citizen. I think Obama speaks to youth because they are (as a group) the least informed and the most gullible and open to persuasion. Let’s inform them and arm them with facts.
I am encouraging my daughters to learn Spanish and leave the county. Soon.
While I would much rather see the cap raised, another solution is this:
I have read on several blogs dedicated to social security issues that a 1 percentage point increase in the FICA tax phased in over the 27 year period until 2037 would ensure full benefits for ss as far as the actuaries can see.
So, the tax would go up 1/27 of a percentage point per year. For someone earning $3000/month, the monthly increase would be roughly about 90 cents or $11/yr.
Put that up to a national referendum and it would win by 95%.
What the hell?? No COLA again?
Why does America hate poor people?
Does anyone in the media ever actually look at the numbers?
The Social Security Administration says based on the numbers given them by the Dept of Labor’s BLS folks, the Social Security beneficiaries recieve no increase.
OK – but look at the numbers. We will ignore for now the need for a CPI-E for the elderly – which exists over at BLS – to be used by SSA. And we will ignore the lie that is Greenspan’s “substitution” reduction to inflation because you can replace a steak dinner that has increased in price with a night out at MacDonalds. Indeed we will ignore the “quality improvement” decrease to inflation that Seniors get because those new computer purchases this year get a larger hard drive than last year standard machine in the standard base price that was unchanged – but now counts as a decrease to inflation.
The standard CPI – the one that is reported by the media – had a Sept value of 629.751 in 2008, 646.887 in 2009, and 654.346 in 2010.
The Urban Worker (why is a worker index used for the retired you ask – well think of the effect of medical inflation on a 20 year old that is healthy compared to medical care inflation on the retire – even after Medicare pays) index CPI-W that is used for Social Security retirees because it is lower do to the lower weight given medical costs had a Sept value of 214.935 in 2008, 211.322 in 2009, and 214.306 in 2010.
Look at the numbers – doesn’t the 2009 CPI-W number scream rethink and recalc? It does not fit the CPI-U pattern. Have they already factored in our diet change to catfood?
Among 18 to 29 year olds, 52 % say raise taxes to solve SS’s problems:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/143705/Americans-Disagree-Fix-Entitlement-Programs.aspx
Scroll down the page to get to the columns broken-out by age groups and chosen solutions.
It’s a poll, so regard it as a snapshot of a moment in time among a specified age group.
The MSM is a faction of the enemy.
Corporate propaganda 24/7.
Jeff Immelt was recently brought on to Obamas economic team.
Jeff Immelt is the CEO of GE. GE owns NBC,
and GE is mega war profiteer.
They have their grubby hand in nearly every product ptoduces on earth.
I used to work at NBC. We’d get their memos twenty times a day even
though we were an independent operation. There was one memo I’ll never forget. In essence, it said GE makes 1/4 of one cent on every single product sold in the world every single day. This was eight years ago so could be higher now. But, think about it that a few seconds.
Putting the dollar amount aside, it’s pretty damn frightening.
They’re like a creeping vine that attaches itself to antyhing it nears, sending new shoots out everywhere, eventually strangling everything it latches on to.
Obama’s new BFF is GE’s Jeff Immelt. The guy who shipped US appliance manufacturing jobs to Mexico.
Oops, went on a tear here, sorry. Totally horrified at the criminal beligerance of our oligarchs lately.
You’re not getting it.
There isn”t a problem with SS now, none.
But, let’s just say there was. You’re making too much sense.
Millions of people have mentioned raising the cap, including asswipe Obama. But it’s not gonna happen because that isn’t the real goal of this trumped up problem. The goal is funneling our hard earned money through another Wall St. tollbooth. Pass a law that mandates every US worker pay a fee for some POS on Wall St. to manage your retirement.
They aren’t interested in real answers to anything. Their mission is to
pick us clean.
Dems are too little, too late. Latest poll numbers on NYT has house 227 to 208 republican and it could get a lot worse, a whole lot worse.
Isn’t that really great to give $250 that the IRS can seize?
Seems no one remembers that along with the no COLA last year, they raised the premium on Medicare by 10%. But that isn’t a tax on the poor! Well many of the poor. Obviously millionaires get Medicare as well! It’s a non-tax tax!
What I really love is that you retire from a company or the government, and after putting in 25 plus years you were suppose to get health insurance. What they don’t tell you the day you turn 62 your company mandates you pay the over $1,200 premium, take Medicare and they become a secondary payee. No wonder Medicare is so expensive. They let all the companies off the hook!
When is the government going to start paying back to the Social Security Trust Fund all the money they stole to give the rich a TAX-CUT? Oh I forgot, just like the wars, they haven’t got around to paying that yet!
It is beyond me why O did not say he would not cut SS very early and very loud.
On another topic though related is pensions for public service employees. Business Week has a good article on it. Think SS is a problem? Public sevice pensions are $7 trillion (year T) unfunded. States are considering both reducing or eliminating pensions and increasing the taxes to fund them. Small whispers about a gov bail out. Never gonna happen. Could be France right here.
Hey that new Sen Miller from Alaska wants a $2000 deductible on medicare each year. he also wants to do away with unemployment payments. But then other teas want the same thing.
GE pays no taxes in the US either!
I don’t think they hate poor people, just want to make them slaves, er set them free, I mean.
Good article in the New Yorker this week on Adam Smith, you know that paragon of free market conservative economics from 1776. Well turns out – I didn’t know this – he mightily did not trust the MOTU types, like Immelt and Dimon. He sorta felt they were just out to fix prices and regulations to line their own pockets. Now how in hell did he get that idea?
As an accountant for a Native American casino, I’d be particularly happy with any increase in social security benefits, one time or extended.
Well, there are a lot of Tea-Partiers that would love that people over 62 would just shrivel up and die. As a matter of fact 607,135 Americans die before retirement in the latest figures I could see (that is after they got their SS money) and 1,141,000 Americans die between between age 65 and 84!
Eighteen percent of all American deaths are between ages 65 and 74. That is less than 9 years on Social Security! Seventy-four for the lucky ones that is!
We have HandsOffSocialSecurity and its pledge at Campaign for America’s future
http://www.ourfuture.org/handsoffsocialsecurity
and the Teabaggers have this pledge for lawmakers:
LOL
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/alliance-calls-for-members-of-congress-candidates-to-sign-seniors-protection-pledge-105037649.html
The current preferred pledge:
http://www.ourfuture.org/handsoffsocialsecurity
The focus should be on widows, orphans, veterans, and the disabled.
Not just seniors.
Simpson has poisoned that well with his talk of Lexus-driving country-clubbers living in their gated communities. People hate middle-class seniors right now, and subscribe to the wedge-Social-Security proposal to means-test because of them.
Let’s keep the focus where is belongs: this is a one-time supplement for veterans, widows, orphans, and the disabled. People who America owes help, who really deserve it.
I also love it that Obama, at an election-time town hall meeting with voters interested enough to come and ask him questions about his policies, calls it SILLY SEASON.
Not silly season, Mr President: job interview time.
I agree with you that more than the senior’s social security is at stake. I was just trying to shed some light where I could find it. I would be interested in hearing about the hatred of middle class seniors so that it can be faced instead of run away from as though it had some credibility. In my opinion, COLA is a smoke screen for larger more harmful moves. The seniors of the future who will get cut by the Simpsons et al really deserve our care and attention too.
Isn’t it time that Obama took a stand agianst the false choice of mortality?
250.00 will pay for less than 100 gallons of home heating oil in the northeast. Yeh!
My son, a 2010 college grad, has been looking for work since his May graduation [and before]. What he’s found is that almost all the jobs he’s “lost out on” have been filled by experienced oldsters “falling down the ladder” and grabbing the rung from those like him waiting to get a start up.
Believe me, I “inform” my two kids [2008 and 2010 college grads; both searching for work] ad nauseum.
Having had my kids quite late in life, I’m on social security, so they get word “first hand” about Obama’s attack on mom & dad. [And his many other faults.]
GE: just another Vampire Squid.
Thank you, OldGold, #5 on your low interest comment.
When I was a kid, some fifty years ago, I started a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette morning newspaper delivery route. I had a savings account in a local bank, which paid three percent (3%) interest on the balance. Nowadays, I get 1/6 of one percent (0.00166) on my savings account. Heck of a job, Feds, in destroying any incentive to save. It’s just borrow, borrow, borrow. We will soon have to be working for zero dollars per day to pay off our debts to China and Japan and the shieks (sic) of the Middle East…
That’s great. I didn’t mean to put anyone on the defensive. Just thinking out loud.
Yes, what a way to start life shackled with student loans… and a tight job market? Like being born with a pre-existing condition. “Debt” from the day you are born!
“Feds, in destroying any incentive to save.” Except when it came to “tax incentives” created to pigeon-hole individuals to invest in the tanked market!
Found this too: Looks like Medicare Part B increases will kick in December 31st, 2010 and result in higher premiums which will mean a smaller Social Security check:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/zero-cost-of-living-adjustment-to-impact-most-vulnerable-older-adults-105052534.html
I thought there was language in the law that prevented checks from going down due to increases in Medicare Part B. Is that not the case?
Found it.
http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/pr/2011cola-pr.htm
That’s because tax-breaks were given to corporations to ship jobs overseas. Many people who are working are working to fulfill the requirements of retirement. It is the government that keeps increasing the retirement age. Seems they forgot what it actually costs them to do that, and in these times that means unemployment. Keep voting for Republicans and no one in the US will have a job!
No, you will have to get a 2nd job to open a checking account. Forget savings.
” almost 20 percent of beneficiaries have their Medicare Part B premiums paid by state medical assistance programs and thus will see no change in their Social Security benefit”
That is ironic. The state, of which I am retired, FORCED me to buy Part B when I have state medical coverage!
Well wait and see what the Republicans do to you!
In light of what SSA says, I would recommend that if you are receiving Social Security and Medicare Part B benefits, that you check with your local SSA office to clarify this. I apologize if I frightened anyone with the link. I should think before I ‘link’!!!
Links are good! LOL
The only reason I remember the issue is because the same thing happened last year. No COLA raise, and Part B went up to $110.50 but my mother’s check didn’t change. I don’t get Part B taken out of mine because I get the best healthcare in the world for free. Something every American citizen desererves, even if I don’t.
You deserve it too. Thanks for being responsible. A great deal of what I read sounds okay when I first read it and then when I go back and reread it, I realize that it could have meant something very different. Kind of a ‘loose links’ situation gets created because I cannot stand by my first interpretation!
Because we have such bad lobbyists? Hellfire, I need to go kick a wall.
Then your son and his friends should be marching in the streets.
Works for France:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/10/20101016161857806125.html
150 youth arrested in French protest as noted in above link:
“Members of the governing UMP party have said that the young protesters are being manipulated, but Charton said the youth mobilisation was independent and “absolutely not” linked to any political party.
Charton said the planned reforms are of immediate concern for young people in France, since delaying retirement for the employed will increase the already high unemployment amongst the youth.
“This is a fight for the right to stable employment,” Charton said.”
You don’t get it if you’re disabled as your money comes form the taxation revenues and there aren’t any, since nobody is working.
this is what they told me last year “suck it up, sister!”
The goal of the Kochs, and other wealthy billionaires, along with Doug Coe of the C Street “Family” “church” in creating and astroturfing the T-Party is to convince this easily brainwashed cohort of citizens that Soc Sec & Medicare are BAD. B.A.D. As in sinfully awful; disgusting; and something that Zombie Reagunz and every single one of the Sainted Founding Fathers, plus Jesus, himself, all frown upon mightily.
They are being taught that Soc Sec and Medicare are welfare. And that anyone who avails themselves of these “entitlement programs” is a dirty effen hippy LIEbrul socialistcommunist out to RUIN and DESTROY our “great nation.”
Think I’m joking? Wish I was.
I’ve commented frequently about my rightwing fundie t-bagging family members. Believe me: THIS is what they’re being carefully taught by RushGlennSarah and their C Street “Family” infested “churches.”
Do not, repeat: Do Not count on the T-baggerz to protest one little iota about losing Soc Sec or Medicare. They are being brainwashed to believe that it is what Jesus would do.
I don’t mean to sound rude to people of faith, but I speak with knowledge of what I see within my particular family and the churches that they attend.
Just an fyi….
There are a few other ways to improve SS – and even get retirees cost of living increases.
The CPI-U that is the one reported in the media is poorly calculated post Greenspans blowing up “quality improvement dis-inflation” adjustments and his “disinflation by substitution (eat hamburger rather than steak)”, but it is still better than the CPI used for SS – - CPI-W – - that uses an urban worker index rather than a retiree index (CPI-E-(elderly))in order to minimise the effect of medical inflation on the final number. Switching to either CPI-U or better yet CPI-E would produce a cost of living raise that better reflected retirees cost changes. Instead the catfood commission wants to go to CPI-C which called “chained” but is really just heavier on the Greenspan substitution model and of course uses “workers” rather than retirees so as to not to reflect medical inflation – effectively a major decrease in benefits.
In comment #43 above I point out that the historical CPI numbers for CPI-W look like they are in error. I’ll repeat hear as the comment appears to have been lost in the development of this thread.
“The Social Security Administration says based on the numbers given them by the Dept of Labor’s BLS folks, the Social Security beneficiaries recieve no increase. OK – but look at the numbers. We will ignore for now the need for a CPI-E for the elderly – which exists over at BLS – to be used by SSA. And we will ignore the lie that is Greenspan’s “substitution” reduction to inflation because you can replace a steak dinner that has increased in price with a night out at MacDonalds. Indeed we will ignore the “quality improvement” decrease to inflation that Seniors get because those new computer purchases this year get a larger hard drive than last year standard machine in the standard base price that was unchanged – but now counts as a decrease to inflation.
The standard CPI – the one that is reported by the media – had a Sept value of 629.751 in 2008, 646.887 in 2009, and 654.346 in 2010 (a 3.9% increase over 2 years.
The Urban Worker (why is a worker index used for the retired you ask – well think of the effect of medical inflation on a 20 year old that is healthy compared to medical care inflation on the retire – even after Medicare pays) index CPI-W that is used for Social Security retirees because it is lower do to the lower weight given medical costs had a Sept value of 214.935 in 2008, 211.322 in 2009, and 214.306 in 2010 (a 0.3% drop in the cost of living over 2 years).
Look at the numbers – doesn’t the 2009 CPI-W number scream rethink and recalc? It does not fit the CPI-U pattern. Have they already factored in our diet change to catfood?”
I hope someone in the media checks this out.
I think I do get it.
Yes, I understand that there is absolutely no problem with social security now. And I also understand all the rightwing talking points are b.s. The only plan is to gut the system.
My proposal was aimed at ensuring that benefits get paid 100% after the year 2037. And it was premised on that date and that benefit decline being real. Whether it is or not, I don’t know.
According to a New York Post article I linked to a few days ago (don’t know how much cred to put there), the USG did something a little different this year. Instead of basing the COLA on the change from 3rd qtr 2009 to 3rd qtr 2010, they used it based on 2008 3rd Qtr to 2010 3rd Qtr.
I find it hard to swallow, but it wasn’t the first time I’ve heard that rumor. And it does explain the numbers you spoke of. Compared to 2009, a COLA increase would be in order. But compared to 2008, it isn’t. Sure wish I knew how to verify it. I’ve spent a couple hours at SSA.gov clicking and reading but I can’t confirm it one way or another with what I’ve found so far.