The New York Times, October 17, 2010, in an article entitled “The Education of a President”:
Obama expressed optimism to me that he could make common cause with Republicans after the midterm elections. “It may be that regardless of what happens after this election, they feel more responsible,” he said, “either because they didn’t do as well as they anticipated, and so the strategy of just saying no to everything and sitting on the sidelines and throwing bombs didn’t work for them, or they did reasonably well, in which case the American people are going to be looking to them to offer serious proposals and work with me in a serious way.”
Mike Pence, Chair of the House Republican Conference, a senior leader in the Republican caucus of the House of Representatives, October 22, 2010, in a radio interview with Hugh Hewitt:
“Look, the time to go along and get along is over,” said Rep. Mike Pence (Ind.), the chairman of the House Republican Conference. “House Republicans know that. We’ve taken firm and principled stands against their big government plans throughout this Congress, and we’ve got, if the American people will send them, we’ve got a cavalry of men and women headed to Washington, D.C. that are going to stand with us.”
Pence said his party wouldn’t compromise on issues like spending or healthcare reform, two of the weightiest items on Congress’ agenda next year, when the Republicans could control one or both chambers.
“Look, there will be no compromise on stopping runaway spending, deficits and debt. There will be no compromise on repealing Obamacare. There will be no compromise on stopping Democrats from growing government and raising taxes,” Pence told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt Thursday evening. “And if I haven’t been clear enough yet, let me say again: No compromise.”
I’m amused that Pence thinks there was at one point a “time to go along and get along.” When was that? January 20, 2009, from 9am-3pm?
As if to continue on that theme, Jon Kyl, Minority Whip and second in the Senate Republican leadership, from October 21, 2010 with Hugh Hewitt:
“We had 40 votes, and then 41 votes, the absolute bare minimum needed to prevent the Democrats from passing most of their agenda. And with a couple of exceptions, we succeeded. Every single Republican held tight,” he said. “So we have shown that we can act together in a very strong way. And I just have to think that with greater numbers in the Senate, and potentially taking over the House, we’re just going to be in a much stronger position.”
Basically, the action in the next two years will be in the executive branch federal agencies, all of which will be under constant threat of defunding and harassment from the GOP.
But bipartisanship, in the Congress? Fuhgettaboutit.





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The good action will be in the executive branch. I foresee a flurry of bills benefitting the wealthy and the security state.
Sadly, Obama will continue to negotiate away all that is good in every effort, only to be slapped in the face every time.
My favorite slap was when Orrin Hatch added $250 million for abstinence-education into the health care bill with no argument and then he still voted against the bill.
Well, that worked out well, no?
As the great orator once said “fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.” Obama isn’t a fool. Why would he continually expect the GOP to work with him and the Dems for the best interest of the Country and time after time rejected, unless he had a hidden agenda? Cui bono?
Two bits says Obama spends the next two years doing everything he can to get republican votes.
Shorter Pence & Kyl –
Yep, the voters sent us here to do absolutely nothing and by God we intend to deliver.
I laughed when I saw Obama’s comments in the New York Times Magazine. The cable networks are talking the same narrative. I heard someone on CNN or MSNBC earlier saying that Obama has already begun to accept that he’ll be dealing with a different Congress after the midterms and that he’s getting the message voters are sending him to compromise more and work harder to get along with Republicans. Seriously. That’s the narrative.
Meanwhile, some info that suggests a possible explanation for Ginna Thomas’s call to Anita Hill has come to light: Ex-Girlfriend: Clarence Thomas ‘Was Obsessed With Porn’. Turns out that his ex-girlfriend wants a deal to write a memoir and is not afraid to talk trash about Clarence. Maybe Ginni and Clarence found out that this was coming out.
The GOP plan then is to have the do nothing congress’s poll numbers go lower? People aside from the Tea Baggers the MAJORITY are pissed that Obama has done nothing about Jobs and Homes. The GOP wants to run on nothing in a Presidential year?
Feingold is getting the endorsement of a GOP newspaper in Greenbay Wisconsin because the Tea bagger there in the debate had no plans for jobs.
No GOPers are running on anything besides lower taxes to save jobs and homes! Bush tried this 8 years ago all that happened was lower taxes save the rich money to Outsource American jobs to China!
We could have swept this election if the Dems made more of that point!
Bipartisanship is just another excuse to pass GOP legislation. Always was.
The GOP will say “no” until they say “yes” and
electappoint Jeb Bush in 2012.When these people take off their costumes and put their masks down, they are all Republicans. So it don’t matter. No way. Contrariwise.
and…I’m not the only one who thinks so…
http://theweek.com/article/index/208468/jeb-bush-for-president
Will he give Katherine Harris a spot on his board? Secretary of Make Up?
He’ll be Palin it on.
Dems don’t seem to want to win. I suppose it’s easier disappointing the base if they don’t have as great a majority. The anger of progressives will turn away from Obama and will turn against Republicans once again…
Besides, having seen the best that Dems can do with large majorities, I don’t think I care what happens to them in 2010.
As of yesterday, it looks like I’ll be writing-in “Daniel Choi” for president on the ballot in 2012. He’s the best voice for those of us who’re continually disappointed by Obama and are getting sick of it. I don’t think he’ll be 35 yet, so no amount of votes would help him win the presidency in 2012. I just can’t think of anyone better to vote for at this point.
Mexican Wife Jeb is not winning the GOP Primary in any of the border states or any state where the anti immigration Tea Baggers pull off a decent showing.
Unless Jeb or who ever wins the the GOP nomination puts Sarah on the VP slot. I think thats Obama’s second choice dream scenario heck I would vote for Obama again to stop that happening.
lol ewwwww
LS
I am not saying your wrong just saying the GOP has no choice if they want Tea Bagger support.
Wow. The bit with D. Ratigan and Toure is wonderful. Re: Juan Williams, 1st Amendment, the 9/11 thingy. Really good perspective, from my little view.
Haven’t typed Ds are too dumb to live for a week or two.
And O’s the stupidest of all. And a jerk. And and and…
It allows Dems to pretend they’re doing something honorable while they betray their base.
Except whoever thought it was ‘honorable’ to begin with.
When I see Juan Williams little mustache, I get scared.
Agreed but I am betting the banks need another bailout between now and election time I hope the anger over a second bank bailout forces the Dems to create jobs and go after bankers who got bonuses with cooked books.
Either that or even the GOP will likely have to worry about Tea Baggers going after them with guns.
Mark Kirk in Illinois voted against more combat pay for the troops but voted for tax breaks for companies that outsource jobs to China.
My guess is that he will be first on the list. Michelle Bachman might be second lots of foreclosed homes in her district but what has she done about it except scream don’t Socialize the Banks which is the GOP code words for don’t put the banks in receivership and audit the banker’s bonuses.
Kathy has been quiet lately I wonder if she has been bought off I wonder if Bush supporters got her cushy Corporate Board of Directors jobs?
Jeb runs we will have to remember to research Cathy.
Oh, oh, right after 9/11, people were of course afraid of Muslim looking people. Uh. No. Not everyone. And, hello, it’s 9 years later. The talking heads are making me want to open a beer. Or something.
Good question.
It’s all part of the theatre. Both parties suck. In the end, teabaggers may end up doing more to advance populism than we are. How sad is that?
Maybe it will be Bush/Cheney…Liz that is.. Yikes!
Well biparistanship existed when Dems voted for Bush’s war and tax cuts.
Obama will be kept around long enough to put in place the first step toward the eventual privatization of Social Security, but no longer. That will be one of his ‘bipartisan accomplishments’ before losing in 2012.
you know, the very first time the president tried bipartisan bargaining they took him first to the woodshed where they showed him who would wind out ahead, then they dunked his head in the head, then they kept it there and didn’t flush
the president acted like he learned his lesson back then, I forget the presser but he said that he learned his lesson, the republicans just want to impede any agenda even if it was their own, so long as the president wouldn’t be able to take credit for it
this was no surprise, the two leaders of the republican party informed us this long ago, rove told us they were going to do this from the start, so did rush
so after that wood shed, head dunked in dung lesson they visited on Obama, how did obama respond?
by trying again, more to the right then the first time, he got his nose stuffed in the dung that time
so he figured he’d try again
and again
the man is either a moron, insane, a republican or all three
well, they weren’t even tax cuts they were tax redistributions
The Tea Baggers need better candidates how many GOPers have Immigrant Nannies, Horse Porn scandals, Witchcraft, votes to keep tax breaks to outsource jobs to China, Votes against more combat pay for our troops, want to cut SS and unemployment during a Depression?
If the Baggers had just vetted their candidates they would be running the table this election. If they had run candidates who didn’t vote to outsource jobs to China, who wanted to keep SS and unemployment as they were we would now be expecting a bigger GOP wave election than the one Newt rode to power in.
Tea Bagger failure will of course be called a success by the MSM but their own mistakes are costing them seats.
Arresting a member of the Press just how scared is the GOP of questions?
You mean, the executive branch agencies that Big Time Dick Cheney had his acolytes and apparatchiks burrowing into for 8 years? Wonder how that will go….
“Obama expressed optimism to me that he could make common cause with Republicans after the midterm elections.” This man is still clueless. He still doesn’t get it; he thinks the Republicans fundamentally see something wrong with the state of America. This the land they’ve dreamed of; where the rich and powerful set the agenda, and the rest of us are fighting for the crumbs they throw our way. A land where unions are completely debunked, where workers have no power, where education of the masses no longer exists, where wealth lays in the hands of the few, and a media landscape that doesn’t advocate for the weak, but serves as a mouthpiece for the rich.
Thank you Bill Clinton and that wonderful idea you came up with in 1989 known as the Democratic Leadership Council. Your corporate takeover of the Democratic party has led us back to a pre-FDR America, back to a land of gentry for the wealthy and powerful. Obama is a student of your brand of poliitcs and he single handedly destroyed any momentum Democrats had from 2006 on, by insisting on this mythical
“bipartisanship”, by failing to act on the agenda he was elected on, by failing to hold the criminals of the Bush era accountable, and for failing to hold accountable the crooks and criminals on Wall Street who destroyed the world’s economies.
You were hell bound to resuscitate a dead, moribund Republican party and allowed them to manipulate your naivety, or some may say, your arrogance in thinking your power of personality was so great you could get even the Republicans to work with you (my belief). Or was it you were afraid of accepting the responsibility of governing, so you wanted their votes so you alone wouldn’t have to suffer the brunt of the voters if your policies failed.
Here’s the truth, had you have had the courage of your convictions and governed with them, you would not be looking at the Democrats being wiped out in November. And once again shows, your naivety is astounding. After what these people have done, and are threatening to do when or if they take control of Congress in November, you still think you can work with these cretons. You’d better be getting yourself ready for retirement from office in 2012. And you will have no one to blame but yourself, for failing to take advantage of the control the American people handed you in 2008. Your weakness and failure to act is your doing and your’s alone. Your constant chiding the left for their sniping is childish. The lack of enthusiasm of the left and the Democratic constituents is yours and the Democratic leadership doing, and the people you chose to surround yourself with.
These people will make your life a living hell starting January 2011, so you’d better get your sweat suit on.
eCHAN is working on a theory about that:)
We might call it “losing,” but is it really when they can go off and start making the big money?
That’s the really tragic thing about Obama and the DLC Dems in Congress, TCU. If they looked at this politically- from the very beginning of the administration they had an historic opportunity to put the Repubs out to pasture for the next several generations, just like FDR. They even made comparisons to Roosevelt early on, so there’s no way they weren’t aware of the historical parallels. Obamco simply chose not to pull the trigger.
There’s two reasons only for letting the repubs off the hook: 1: Either Obama is really naive and narcissistic enough to believe in his Post-Partisanship, everyone hold hands and sing kumbaya approach – which is horseshit (no Dem can be that stupid, especially after Clinton’s impeachment), or (2): he really believes in Repub ideologies, philosophies, and policies and only pretends to cherish liberal or progressive values around election time.
My scientific wild assed guess is door number two.
Hidden? He’s an absolutely typical abuser, ask anyone who’s dealt with one.
Yep, too true.
Silly…it’s just bullying…you know, a lifestyle choice by both bully and bullied.
Jeb being married to a Latina will be the Teabaggers perfect chance to say “see, we’re not racist.” Being an ideological extremist frees one from the need for consistency.
Obama Harry and Nancy seem to think that the way to be popular when boys don’t like you is to be easy, they don’t seem to mind not being respected.
Better to Die on your Feet than Live on your knee’s?
Nope their philosophy is if your on your knees the boys must like you.
The memoir is written, not sure if it’s out yet, but people have read it and quoted from it.
Is it any wonder some people are gathering in DC for a Rally to Restore Sanity? We could surely use some. Too bad I won’t be able to attend.
I lean toward the Oreo philosophy black on the outside white on the inside because he will do anything to be liked and losing his self respect is a necessary price in the failed quest to be popular. But much like Bush Obama will never admit making a mistake.
Admitting a mistake is a sign of weakness they both think however not being strong enough to admit your wrong is true weakness its Kim Jong il level weakness.
I admit your theory does work and until we get more intel both our theories are just that theories.
That might work for moderate voters but the Racist wing of the GOP will never buy that unless someone big to them like Sarah is on board.
Jeb runs without Sarah or another big Tea Bagger the Racists will stay home and then we get a chance to take some red states.
All the red states where White turnout went up huge for McCain when Obama became the nominee.
true that…the facts so far is that Obamco’s administration is a huge Fail, by any and all standards.
And Telco immunity, and Medicare deform, and the Bankruptcy bill, and…
O hates to offend Republicans and corporations. O doesn’t mind offending liberals, peace activists, blacks, Latinos, progressives, union members and environmentalists.
Q.E. D. O is a corporate Republican.
At the end of the day (and at the end of a very busy week), the final thought is: Kabuki show + Trojan horse (or Manchurian candidate, pick your poison).
Nothing that Obama has done to date has swayed my conviction (based on what I see with my own eyes & hear with my own ears) that he is nothing more than a NeoCon sent forth as a putative “Democrat.”
Obama was the perfect candidate for the Oligarchs & the PTB. A youthful, vigorous, intelligent AA, who appeared to have pulled himself up by his bootstraps, who appeared to have done community service work (aka compassion, understanding), who appeared to many (not everyone) as at least *somewhat* “liberal.” Obama worked Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy & showed acumen & finesse in getting out the youth vote, using technology, and, hey, Obama “gave good speeches.”
Plus Obama sang Siren songs that made promises MANY US citizens wanted to hear. The message of “hope” and “change” was not done by accident, but it was done with extreme cynicism. And Obama reliably GOTV to the extent that *no amount of voter fraud (and make no mistake, fraud happened)* could prevent him from getting elected.
The campaign was Act I of the Kabuki Show, and Obummer did a masterful job. And then Part II, Obama as Potus, proceded, and what you see is what you get. The “sheep’s clothing” has been removed from the “wolf,” and NeoCon Obama has emerged to finally and completely and totally wreck the Democratic party, and see to it that the Republics, in whatever format, emerge victorious. And the Oligrachs are served at the expense of our nation, and ourselves.
That T-Partiers clap and cheer merely demonstrates how clueless and brainwashed they are.
Obama is simply doing what he has been recruited, trained and PAID very handsomely to do. Obama got his; eff the rest of us.
Is there a shelter for abused democrats where they get counselling so they can stop trying to placate their abuser who is beating the shit out of them. A good counseler will help them realise that they cannot placate an abuser they can only leave the situation or learn how to fight back. If there is such a place please get Obama in it and help him.
Obama IS a Republican who is bought off by the corporations. And he is paid very very well to kick the liberals in the nuts.
Most of the Democrats these days are bought off by the corporations. They aren’t “abused;” they sold their souls a long time ago and have absolutley no problem in lying to you and me. We mean nothing; citizens are serfs for the “machine.”
Not really. Not if you’re rich and powerful and/or a giant international corporation. For them, the Obama Admin has been extremely successful and very very financially rewarding.
One must shift one’s perspective…
the action in the next two years will be in the executive branch federal agencies
the action of the next two years will be obamadmin fighting off constant frivolous investigations and ultimately impeachment proceedings to the point of total government paralysis. The game plan is well established.
The story in the link I provided came out only a couple of hours ago and says that she’s still trying to get a publisher to pick it up.
…now that’s quite a bubble!
But i do see the parallels and similarities between the two: the 2008 campaign with it’s cult of personality emphasis (those damn posters…get…out…of…my…mind), and an almost sociopathic indifference to sound economic policy.
I’m sure when we’re starving and homeless in the streets because of Great Depression 2.0 he will fiercely advocate how his hands are tied by the fact that Congress has made laws which must be enforced and that it takes 60 votes in the Senate to effect real change – and that will be a great comfort to the pragmatists in the Party.
You see, I disagree that this is about stupidity; it’s about the difficulty of playing a double game. It is very hard to convince your allies that you are really on their side when you have the power and keep twisting the knife while claiming you are really trying to pull it out.
The next congress will be able to “force” Obama into the compromises he wanted to make in the first place and with smaller majorities, the handwringing will be a bit more plausible.
To right oig… I forgot to shift my perspective as a multi millionaire expecting concierge service from my DLC lackeys. You’re correct, from that pov… Obamco is an unqualified success.
SHHHHH!
I have thought that many times – and refrained from saying anything for fear of giving them ideas.
How easy would it be for the Kochs to recruit some attractive, squeaky clean candidates who – for proper consideration – would toe their line? I’m thinking, not that hard.
Obama’s incessant harping on bipartisanship (you could feel a palpable drop in national morale each time he mentioned it) made me wonder, not about his nationality, but about what planet the guy was from. In my opinion, it has also seriously undercut the Dems’ current message–that we should be afraid, very afraid, of the resurgence of the Repubs. It’s always a compelling argument, but people think, “Wait a minute. If Republicans are so terrible, why did you spend the last two years trying to jump into bed with them?”
Battered Democrat Syndrome
“Obama expressed optimism to me that he could make common cause with Republicans after the midterm elections. “It may be that regardless of what happens after this election, they feel more responsible,” he said, “either because they didn’t do as well as they anticipated, and so the strategy of just saying no to everything and sitting on the sidelines and throwing bombs didn’t work for them, or they did reasonably well, in which case the American people are going to be looking to them to offer serious proposals and work with me in a serious way.”
Are you fucking kidding me? If this is really his perception of the Republican’s attitude and plans, he is either a fool or duplicitous. Given his track record top date, my conclusion is he is both.
They’ll feel more responsible? Offer serious proposals? Work with him in a serious way? Dude, extract your head from your ass and get some fresh air. They hate your guts and want you to crash and burn on a daily basis. Talk about denial. Geez. Is he the only one who can’t or won’t see this?
Yep. Can u say Will. Jeff. Clinton and so called Welfare reform. Now that we have no welfare system and no jobs for his dumb ass workfare idea I wonder what Billy Bob thinks of that great reform? I don’t think he cares. Just like Haiti he moves on to the next disaster and figs. a way to profit from it. We have to stop electing these self serving narcissists.
Nobody has done more to demoralize the Dim. base then this fool. It’s almost as if he was planted in our ranks to destroy the left from inside. He’s a “Manchurian candidate” for sure. I bet the NSA , CIA and affiliated Corps. are laughing themselves to sleep every night over how well this guy has worked out..for them.
“Obama expressed optimism to me that he could make common cause with Republicans after the midterm elections.”
How about making common cause with Democrats?
Problem is, even IF some newer pol comes on the scene who IS – for the sake of argument – not bought off, who HAS integrity, who actually CARES to do the job well for the people, not the Oligarchs… well, really how FAR can that idealized politician go? And it’s only a matter of time before they are either bought off/sold out/corrupted and/or voter fraud ensures that they aren’t re-elected.
Too cynical? Probably. But possibly also reality, methinks.
Now that’s a novel concept! Whoa… dude, what are you smoking??? /s
Spot on, David. It NEVER existed…
Which is all the more reason to hold Barack Obama accountable for nearly two years worth of smooching republican butt, as if it was right there, waiting for him to “reach out” and get it.
“How about making common cause with democrats?”
Ouch! That’s gonna leave a bruise. :o)
No, no, no…you are wrong….. there is bi-partisanship in the Congress. Has been and will be particularly after the mid-terms. Obama said so, and so there will be. He should know, as he’s been compromising in a bi-partisan manner since he got in office. He’s Mr. Bi-Partisan.
LOL oh, behave. Thanks for the much-needed laugh.
Then again, a rogue mustache is nothing to sneeze at.
The Tick: That Mustache Feeling
“Arthur! My mustache is touching my brain!”
OK. I read a quotation corroborating Hill’s testimony.
Onitgoes; that’s one of the horrible things about Obama’s “legacy”:
Anyone calling himself or herself, “liberal” or “progressive”, is going to have to eat this political hack’s four years of utter failure.
Yeah, it’s just a weird sort of good cop/bad cop routine, but they all work for the same plutocrats.
Yeah, I can’t wait for Obama 2.0 to begin negotiating with a much stronger Rethug Congress.
In Version 1.0, Obama had progressives and a significant majority of the voting public backing his play. Only before the first card was dealt, he pushed half his chips across the table and in his best bi-partisanship voice declared: “Okay, let’s play.” (On health reform, the ‘chips’ were the public option and wholesale govt drug purchases; on financial reform, too big to fail and failure to re-impose some form of Glass-Steagal.)
We’d get better odds at Keno.
There is bipartisanship in one respect — the Democratic Party and Republican Party establishments are in agreement to continue enacting political, economic, and foreign policies that bail out and subsidize corporations at the expense and to the extreme detriment of the middle class.
Steveo, thanks. One of the better posts on here in a while.
The “opportunity cost” of Obama’s doing rehab on the GOP is going to be a topic for political scientists to study for years.
And the bitter irony is that no one but he could have done it.
No one.
Oh, look at that! Exactly what rational people have been trying to get the punish-by-not-voting crowd to understand.
Dylan, do you approve of Obama’s policies in Afghanistan?
Enquiring punishers would like to know.
You are dead on
It is comical hearing Republicans discuss Obama as if there was a time that they were willing to work with him
Obama reached out TOO MUCH to them with all of his bills and watered his ideas DOWN to get them and they STILL rejected him in huge numbers
It is a joke and a reminder to Obama to stick to his guns PERIOD
You’d be surprised at the amount of bipartisanship obama has with republicans
They all believe in protecting torturers and the Bush administration.
Expanding wiretap laws.
Cia death squads.
More war.
More fat military contracts
Not legalizing marijuanna
Expanding Gitmoesque facilities
Cracking down on leakers (wikileaks guys)
Killing internet freedom with the internet killswitch and upcoming acta
Phrma Loving
They all hate gay people, at least they can agree that Gayz R tuh Devuhl!
They hate unions
They want to eliminate teachers unions
They love deregulation and not arresting criminal bankers.
Obama LOVES bipartisanship. He’s bi-partsian curious but still refuses to be bipartisan WITH HIS OWN FUCKING PARTY!!!!!