Seeking to repair a shattered image with the LGBT community, and joining the chorus of those shocked by the recent rash of gay teen suicides, President Obama recorded a video as part of the It Gets Better project, to encourage gay and lesbian teenagers that they are not alone and their lives will improve.
In the video, Obama says that he wants to “dispel the myth” that bullying is somehow endemic to American culture and a part of growing up. “We have an obligation to ensure that our schools are safe for all of our kids.” He tells teens feeling left out or different that they have people who care about them, and they should reach out and not leave these emotions bottled up inside.
He adds that, more than things getting better, that “you’re going to see that your differences are a source of pride and a source of strength.” Obama wants these gay and lesbian teens to know that they will have the diverse life experience to contribute to America in a valuable way, to fight discrimination, to understand the importance of setting a good example. He concludes that everyone deserves the freedom “to pursue our own version of happiness; to make the most of our talents; to speak our minds; to not fit in; most of all, to be true to ourselves.”
If anything, the accompanying blog post by Brian Bond of the White House Office of Public Engagement is even better. A gay man, Bond writes about his own struggles as a teen, saying that he “considered suicide as a way out.” But he found a colleague in whom he could confide. “She cared enough to push me to seek help. She saved my life. I will always be grateful for her compassion and support – the same compassion and support that so many kids need today.”
Dan Savage began the It Gets Better project to convince gay teens that they had support out there in the world. He’s now gotten the Secretary of State and the President of the United States to deliver that message.
The entire transcript is below.
Like all of you, I was shocked and saddened by the deaths of several young people who were bullied and taunted for being gay, and who ultimately took their own lives. As a parent of two daughters, it breaks my heart. It’s something that just shouldn’t happen in this country.
We’ve got to dispel the myth that bullying is just a normal rite of passage – that it’s some inevitable part of growing up. It’s not. We have an obligation to ensure that our schools are safe for all of our kids. And to every young person out there you need to know that if you’re in trouble, there are caring adults who can help.
I don’t know what it’s like to be picked on for being gay. But I do know what it’s like to grow up feeling that sometimes you don’t belong. It’s tough. And for a lot of kids, the sense of being alone or apart – I know can just wear on you. And when you’re teased or bullied, it can seem like somehow you brought it on yourself – for being different, or for not fitting in with everybody else.
But what I want to say is this. You are not alone. You didn’t do anything wrong. You didn’t do anything to deserve being bullied. And there is a whole world waiting for you, filled with possibilities. There are people out there who love you and care about you just the way you are. And so, if you ever feel like because of bullying, because of what people are saying, that you’re getting down on yourself, you’ve got to make sure to reach out to people you trust. Whether it’s your parents, teachers, folks that you know care about you just the way you are. You’ve got to reach out to them, don’t feel like you’re in this by yourself.
The other thing you need to know is, things will get better. And more than that, with time you’re going to see that your differences are a source of pride and a source of strength. You’ll look back on the struggles you’ve faced with compassion and wisdom. And that’s not just going to serve you, but it will help you get involved and make this country a better place.
It will mean that you’ll be more likely to help fight discrimination – not just against LGBT Americans, but discrimination in all its forms. It means you’ll be more likely to understand personally and deeply why it’s so important that as adults we set an example in our own lives and that we treat everybody with respect. That we are able to see the world through other people’s eyes and stand in their shoes – that we never lose sight of what binds us together.
As a nation we’re founded on the belief that all of us are equal and each of us deserves the freedom to pursue our own version of happiness; to make the most of our talents; to speak our minds; to not fit in; most of all, to be true to ourselves. That’s the freedom that enriches all of us. That’s what America is all about. And every day, it gets better.




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Sorry. I couldn’t bring myself to watch the clip. Why would gay teens (or anyone) listen to his words at this point?
lol, me either! But I did read the script. Gag me.
Effin hypocrit. Show me, dont tell me.
They might. Besides, can you imagine John Boehner or Mitch McConnell doing one of these videos? Nope, neither can I.
And Brian Bond’s a good guy — he was with DFA and served as their GLBT liaison and fundraiser.
This may be what we use to make him show us.
Hillary’s done a video, now him. Don’t expect to see any Republicans rushing to do them.
I have a feeling the making of “it gets better” videos is about to become very popular with the political class, like the wearing of ribbons of various colors. Or flag pins.
No substance, of course, but a “must do” to further their careers.
Medicinecat nailed it
And thousands of hockymoms helping in soup kitchens (as long as the really stinky and nasty homeless people don’t get too close)
Philantrophy in America is all about feeling good about yourself, a good ‘look at me’ story at the next neighborhood party or golf outing, washing one’s hands free of ‘sin’n but when it REALLY comes down to it, when it REALLY is about REALLY making a difference, they all cop out from hocky mom to president….
Perhaps many would view his effort through their respect for the office and be gratefull that he made this (small?) contribution.
Good morning all and thanks David.
I agree with Dan Savage reaction
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what Medicinecat said.
and what Demi and karenr said, too.
I can’t bear the sight of this smug liar.
Oh, Good Lord: ribbons, car magnets made in China, t-shirts…spare me please! I can’t take the thought of Joe, Mika, Harry Reid, Chuck Todd, etc. with little lapel ribbons! Another big marketing strategy. Help!
Now-now, Children. Calm down and be nice. Play good together and know that we are not all alike. You are all special and are loved. Those type of things are mean and hurtful and you just have to rise above it all. Oh yeah, looky here!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2010/10/21/ST2010102102028.html
RainbObama pins!
All of the anti-bullying rhetoric that is going on right now has missed one very important thing.
DADT, DOM, gay jokes by comedians, Anti-gay screeds from right-wing politicians and preachers and the myriad of other things such as “marriage is only for one man and one woman” are just institutionalized bullying. It is no wonder that children bully children, adults do it all the time. Come on people we can build our world on better than this.
The freedom to wear my hair long with a Fu Manchu moustache, shorts and short sleeved shirts, express my radical political views while working for reichwing capitalists.
Exactly! See my post above. We can’t set an example for the life of us.
Fuck off Obama, you cowardly traitor.
Listen to us all complain!
they threw us a token crumb,
right before the election.
We should be grateful! /s
He’s got gall, I’ll give him that.
I’m not surprised he thinks it, but I’m surprised it made it into the speech.
Being gay = not fit in.
“It gets better, (as long as I or someone like me isn’t calling the shots).”
He’s a bigoted asshole. Period.
No, but I can imagine they’d do about the same in protecting and establishing the equal rights that the LGBT community is supposed to be afforded.
But hey! A video with some empty rhetoric! Yay!!!
/rollseyes
I’m not. He lives in the same bubble as Valerie Jarrett.
or, any other president of the United States.
oddly enough, when Hilary Clinton said something similar the other day, this forum praised her.
The Obama hatred at this forum is up there with the tea partiers.
Hillary Clinton didn’t promise LGBT Americans several things and then go back on each and every one of them. DADT repeal? Nope. DADT APpeal instead. DOMA? Also defended by Obama’s DoJ. ENDA? Not a peep from Obama. I could go on. Shall I?
“er…um…as Valerie Jarrett might say “your lifestyle choice gets better”
Seriously go f**k yourself BO
Sec. of State Hillary Clinton doesn’t have the authority to do anything about any of the anti-LGBT policies this nation has in place. President Barack Obama does.
You’re bad at logic.
HRC is NOT the POTUS, and she doesn’t have the power that Obama does to sign an Executive Order. HRC has no real power in this situation, so for her to do what she did – which, imo, was somewhat stepping outside the box of her duties – was worthy of note and praise.
What Obummer has done is bogus b.s. and copycatting from HRC. Far far far too little and much much much too late. For me, what BHO did is insulting, albeit I’ll grant that no ReTHUG would do even this.
We are negative about Obama because he clearly and unequivocably promised during the campaign to revoke DADT. And all Obama has done since getting elected is tap-dance on the head of a pin and send out his mouthpieces to insult the liberal base, including LGBT, over and over.
Why would we not be very angry with Obama? Why should I feel otherwise?
Trouble is, with Prez Zero it doesn’t ever get better. It just gets worse and worse.
If this video leads to even one child not committing suicide, I’m glad Obama made it.
Maybe I’m too critical of him, but a couple of his lines stand out to me.
“There are people out there who love you and care about you just the way you are.” – not an assumption you should make, some of us (gay or not) did not have someone like that.
“And when you’re teased or bullied, it can seem like somehow you brought it on yourself – for being different, or for not fitting in with everybody else” – is he saying that if a young person is bullied or thinks they prefer gay relationships, they won’t “fit in”?
Jim White has a fresh cross-post ready: Why Is a Perjurer on the Supreme Court?
There’s a remarkable amount of bile here. I get the impatience, I get the frustration, I get the feeling of betrayal. But it seems to me that folks here have abandoned hope and given up. But how can you deny the remarkable power of the President of the United States filming a video on the message “it gets better?” How is that something to be spit upon? How is to be dismissed as a marketing gimmick? Change is not coming as fast as you or I’d like, but change is coming, make no mistake about it.
If he were one of the people I “reached out to”, I would be closer to suicide after the courage it takes to reach out to people that are supposed to care. (And I say that from experience that lasted until my early twenties).
if I heard his form of encouragement from anyone who was saying they care, anyone that I would hope could help me, much less the POTUS, I would feel more discouraged:
“Dispel the myth”
“your difference”
“own version of happiness”
We will need a campaign to interpret that Obama “was just trying to do the right thing” but talking smack about “bottled up emotions” that he seems to have no clue about.
She @34 and catch a clue.
Edited for further clarity:
If the man puts it as “the myth” then he does nothing more than does what he does. Obama speak. “I say it is a myth. Therefore it is not real. Thus things will get better because I say so.”
took me hours last night to suppress my anger enough to watch it
like Madame Secretary’s post, it’s a little too stodgy for me, but I watched it as a mom and I agree with you that if it saves a single life, I’m down
Because context counts. Obama has done nothing but spit on us.
I agree, dabear.
O might be ‘trying’ to say ‘the right thing’ (in his clueless way)
but his remarks are tone-deaf and unwittingly quite offensive, esp. to
someone in a vulnerable state. O. himself is so terrified
of ‘not fitting in’ he projects his fear of being ‘different’ onto everyone
else. What a conformist shmo. This poser has no business in a position of leadership.
It’s a marketing gimmick because the Obama administration was handed the repeal of DADT on a silver platter, and instead of accepting it, they’re sending it back to the kitchen.
The judiciary solved the problem for them by striking down the policy as unconstitutional, meaning there’s no need for Congress to get involved, and it saves the President from whatever random political boogeyman du jour he claims to be victim of. DADT problem solved, or at least it would have been if Obama’s DoJ hadn’t appealed the decision.
You’re bad at being informed and realizing when you’re wholesale adopting dubious establishment pablum and platitudes.
As far as I’m concerned (speaking for me alone), yes, I have “abandoned hope and given up” in terms of anything that Obama has done, or more correctly: not done, during his crapulous Admin. That’s correct. Obama “gave up” on his constituents a long long long time ago.
See: Shirley Sherrod & ACORN for starters.
Well, I guess then it’s okay to go sit in a corner, suck your thumb, and make occasional bitter comments. That’ll certainly bring on equality in the blink of an eye.
Unless things have changed since the original posting, this video can’t even be found by searching YouTube. The White House put it out there as “unlisted”. You have to know the direct URL in order to find it. Or, see it posted somewhere else.
Exactly. Why the heck should I even care, much less get all warm & fuzzy, over yet another speech from Pres All-I-do-well-are-speeches????
Actions speak much louder than words to me.
Seriously, that’s an uncalled for comment. And people here have done a lot more than make “bitter comments.” Seriously in bad taste, that one.
Talk about blaming the victim.
Well that would be because Hillary hasn’t appealed every court victory won by the gay community…..put down the kool aid.
Margaret isn’t President of the United States. Applauding the President for saying empty emotionally satisfying things, while he’s actively working against his own words isn’t going to bring on equality in the blink of an eye either.
You know what the President would have had to do to bring about some equality? Nothing. He literally had to do nothing. He could have just let a lower court ruling stand, and there’d be some extra equality, and a fulfillment of a campaign promise by proxy. All he had to do was nothing. And even that was too much for him to do for the LGBT community. He couldn’t even be bothered to do nothing to uphold and protect the rights of LGBT Americans.
The H word, after Obama’s disingenuous betrayal of every single campaign promise, is now a four letter word in these parts…
I haven’t blamed the victim one bit. I’m arguing that what I read here is that people have given up and turned vicious. How is that going to bring about equality?
Because I judge people by their actions, not their words….and Obama has appealed every court victory won by the gay community.
Get Bent, Trout !
Margaret’s civil rights have been violated by this policy
watch your god damn mouth
“there is a whole world waiting for you, filled with possibilities”
That is, a world where you cannot openly serve your country. A world where you can be fired at will because your boss disapproves of your existence. A world where you are denied the right to marry the person you love. A world where con men like me will work for your money but not your equality. A world where you and your partner will pay higher taxes than your married co-workers and neighbors. A world where even a Constitutional expert such as myself will justify discriminating against you by invoking God (who doesn’t approve of you, BTW).
But not to worry, because “those differences are a source of pride and a source of strength”. I hope that clears everything up.
This++.
You may need to figure out the definition of “blame the victim” because, quite honestly, that IS what you did. And I’ve already stated my feelings about “hope” in this instance, plus, if you hang around here, then you’ll SEE for yourself all the activist work that we do.
If you feel like being condescendingly judgemental, I suggest you do so after doing some homework. You’re speaking out of a lack of knowledge, and it shows.
Oh, geez, no!!
He’d wear one during his 2012 re-election campaign. He’s so phony, it’s hard to even look at him, let alone with a RainbObama pin (btw, that was a good one).
I have no problem with trying to comfort kids who, heaven knows, need all the support they can get, but this isn’t the way to do it. How about more money for people who would support kids in the schools, after-school programs, etc.? That would actually mean something.
Indeed. Obama could have shut his pie hole and done diddly squat, and the rights of LGBT would be better upheld. But no, Mr. I’m-so-great-at-speechifying took ACTION against a court ruling.
I’m supposed to feel all warm & fuzzy & misty-eyed & hopey about that? Spare me. Worst NeoCon POTUS in the world.
Abject Duplicitous DEPRAVITY coming from the 2 gratest doublespeaking Bullies of The WORLD; one with an Obamanible Bully PULPIT, to boot (US and Them)! It’d only be corrupt circumlocution if presented instead by, say, DEM Barney Frank.
When the Pentagon’s “study” is released in December there’s no doubt in my mind that it will parrot the same ol’ bad for military discipline etc shit and Obama will say, “Well, the military says it will be harmful to our national defense so we’re not going to change DADT policy.”
Any bets?
The usual scripted words well spoken in the comfort of his bubble. While they don’t faze me, as one who increasingly sees him as a hypocrite, if this helps a young gay teen somewhere feel better, that’s a good thing – even if his motive is just for political show.
Guess Obama got a “meh” reception on the West Coast on his 3 day tour. Probably even got heckled in Seattle and he hates being heckled. This PR campaign ain’t gonna do anything but make things worse. If you want constituent support, Mr. President, do the things you campaigned to do– all of them. As mentioned before, Jane Hamsher, Glenn Greenwald and CCRJustice.Org all have a copy of the handy lists of what you could have done but still could do all on your own right now. Otherwise, this is a big waste of tax payer money and all of our time.
No, no bets, because my bet would be the same as yours. Obama knows what the Military brass are going to say, and Obama will go right along with it quite happily and with no compunctions or sorrow.
I’m sure that Obama’s BFF, Rick Warren, is also whispering in his ear that Warren & his Doug Coe C Streeter Family goons are getting ever closer to sealing the deal on having their Death for All Gays legislation enacted in Uganda. And Obama is, no doubt, all thrilled to see that enacated.
Folks who don’t “get it” are advised to go back and re-read Rev Niemoller’s warning yet again.
So here we have the president of the united sates – the first ever to even address gay kids – and of course the firedogleft pukes all over him. of course when Hillary – who has the SAME EXACT policy positions as Obama – made the SAME video, she was lauded as a great American – but skin color has NOTHING to do with it… REALLY… Keep it up guys – because I’m sure that a republican president would make the same video…
You know what would be better President Obama, if you’d use your bully pulpit and make a national statement about the incidents; but that would require you put yourself out there for the right to criticize, and for conservative nutcase feaux christains to attack you. This, in my mind, is a weak, pathetic gesture done around the midterm elections. If you really feel this strong about this issue, you have a platform no one else in the world has, USE IT!!!!!!!!! And by the way, stop sending two different messages on gay issues. You can’t do a video about gay suicides and then file a lawsuit supporting DADT that buttresses the very homophobia that caused these young individuals to tragically take their lives.
I’m still waiting on the man I voted for in 2008 to enter the White House and begin governing, instead of the political animal I am witnessing, who makes every decision of the day based on how it plays politically. BE A LEADER AND NOT A POLITICIAN!
It’s not “condescendingly judgemental.” The first two dozen posts (excepting two or three) speak for themselves.
I’ve said nothing about the excellent work that many have put in to bring about equality. You’re reading too much into my post. I’m only saying that the sentiments displayed here in those posts (and others after the first 24) mean that:
1) that people have given up.
2) name calling and being vicious doesn’t bring about equality.
3) people in this thread are dismissive of the incredible power of the President making a video about gay-bullying.
Nice sentiment. No offense, it’s never going to happen. At this point (again: no offense intended), I feel like you’re wasting your keystrokes. Obama’s just not that into what we believe…
You are entitled to your opinion, and I’m entitled to mine. I think your comment to Margaret was offensive, unnecessary and out of line.
This most recent comment of yours is a bit better and is far less personally abusive. You might want to consider that approach in future posts. That’s just my opinion.
“Narcissist in Chief”
I would even be willing to pay more tax dollars to require psych profiles on presidential candidates before we pull the lever.
Lesseee…wonder how many children have died in drone attacks in Afghanistan?
Phoenix: “Hillary’s done a video, now him.”
Great! The president who’s increased the numbers of innocent people, and children, dying in Afghanistan and Pakistan makes a video about the tragedy of kids who are bullied, killing themselves…following the same thing done by his secretary of state, who’s promulgating his foreign policy, who, herself, helped enable George Bush’s war on Iraq, in which HUNDREDS, if not thousands, of children have died.
What a pair of humanists. (Joan Rivers’ finger down throat gag gesture..)
No getting away from it: Obama is taking steps to sustain DADT in the military.
But the fantasy world that our “centrists” inhabit doesn’t allow for reality.
It’s ruled by the dems new campaign slogan:
“Vote for us; the republicans will crap on you even worse.”
We’re about to find out how well that works with the voters.
So, the president speaking to Gay American kids – the ones jumping off of bridges because of bullying, is nullified because of his foreign policy! Feel better – some of those kids dying in drone attacks – would probably grow up to stone homosexuals – cause that’s what the Taliban do to gay men and women. Don’t think about it as innocent children dying – think about it as future gay killers dying – it will help you sleep better…
“How is that going to bring about equality?”
Of itself, it isn’t, but since we have president who doesn’t even have the courage to end DADT, when the possibility of doing it is higher than ever, supporting him in yet another sellout of progressives IS the act of professional victims.
In the larger view, Obama’s becoming a lame duck in less than two weeks, will have one very salutary effect: It’s going chisel in stone the truth that when a democrat runs as a progessive, and then tries to govern as a country-club republican, he can’t get away with it.
Truman nailed it when he said that the voters will prefer real repubs to bogus democrats, every time.
Speaker Boehner will make it all better. don’t you worry.
you realize that he doesn’t actually have that power to do what you want, right ?
I should have stated that better: Obama promised to work towards the goal, and clearly now, he is not working towards it, no matter what speeches he gives.
Well, I will say that the worst thing I heard in Hillary’s video was “hang in there”.
She, or whomever wrote her video, does seem to get it: “Insist on Equality”
“Giving up” would be defined as stop demanding our equal rights no matter who we come up against.
Obama will know a much better understanding of “make me do it” before the LBGT community is done with him.
He has the power to recognize that the judicial is the third equal branch of government. No?
You realize that he does have the power to “suspend” enforcement of DADT with a stop loss order while waiting for congress and/or the courts to get rid of it.
It is the same process he is currently using for an immigration law that he doesn’t like. He instructed his Homeland Security Dept to stop enforcing it while waiting for congress to change it.
Why won’t he treat gays the same as he treats immigrants?
Yeah, this “It Gets Better” video brought to you by a President who invited gay genocide supporter Rick Warren to give the inaugural invocation. Barry doesn’t give a shit about gay rights or even gay lives.
He had the power to do an Executive Order catering to Bart Stupak. Yes, he could do a stop loss.
I’m tired of listening to this kind of b.s. — too little, too late, and basically meaningless absent any ACTION. Which he refuses to take. That’s the take-away point here. It’s just talk.
I’m trying to figure out just what Barry Oilbummer cares about it.
Oh yeah that’s right–sucking up to the criminal banksters and the right wing. That warms his heart.
Again, I shake my head. We have 10% unemployment (most likely closer to 20%) and all this empty suit can do is make meaningless speeches. I mean, when he is going to get off his ass and put people back to work???? It astounds me the level of willful negligence.
“Now watch this drive”
I don’t see any change except change for the worse. O’s glorious vision has included forcing me to buy garbage insurance from a garbage for-profit company, has included quietly trying to prevent progress towards LGBT equality, has included stepping up warrantless wiretapping, has included reinforcing indefinite detainment without representation or legal recourse, has included countless hours of empty rhetoric intended only to make us STFU and do as we’re told. The list of his accomplishments is long, and nearly all of them pushed this country further down the path to oblivion.
When will he get us back to work? Suggestions? Just what do you think the president can do?
After all the betrayals that have come from this White House, from statements about DOMA that compare homosexuality to pedophelia and beastiality, to lobbying congress to not bring up DADT repeal, to kicking the can down the road (the Pentagon ‘review’ of the potential repeal) when Congress went ahead with DADT repeal anyway, to appealing a court ruling handed to him on an almost silver platter, to comments about “lifestyle choices” from those he surrounds himself with….
…now he makes a video, as if he has any credibility any more. Maybe, in 20 years, when the next generation of young LGBT teens sees it, maybe the hypocrasy of his video will be far-enough removed for it to do some good.
Having read all the comments, and mulled them over I have only one observation .. to paraphrase “those who can, DO .. those who can’t, complain” .. while I understand the reason for the angst and venting involved, I would really like to see some effort put into what WE the people can do to change this toxic system, short of open revolution .. smoking pot and listening to tunes just ain’t helping anymore ..
Even tho many have legitimate and real reasons to vent and be angry/hurt, we canna’ let them separate us in a common cause to create change that matters ..
“Sits down on his soap-box and sheds a silent tear”
How bout a damn jobs program–lots of em–like what FDR did?? That’s a start.
warpublican, you need to spend a little more time here, doing a bit more research before you ask such questions/issue such challenges.
A few minutes of your time using teh Google would yield several “what Obama can do now” diaries, and the comments to such are full of additional suggestions.
Don’t come in here all stupid, curse us and then demand that we educate you.
Sure – and the congress would just OPEN UP THE CHECK BOOK!!!! BTW – one poster says I cursed you? Not true – I’m just amazed at the thinly vield racism I see on this board…
*standing on chair clapping*
Agreed. No one who voted for Obama in 2008 should be singing his praises at this point, unless you love the neverending state of war, the continued crackdown on civil liberties, and turning up the heat on people’s lives with increased unemployment and home foreclosures.
See Mauimom at 87.
Thank you Teddy & SD.
I’m all for “debate” and “exchange of ideas,” but, when I used to teach 8th grade, I demanded that my kids at least READ THE BOOK before offering their opinions on what crap it was.
Same goes for those older than 13.
dear Bear; “Hang in there” is the operative instruction from democrats, these days, and not just for gays.
We’re about to receive pie-in-the-sky from Mr. Centrist and the rest of the jellyfish herd.
As far as doing something positive goes, the most positive thing we can do is get rid of the democrats and the “progressive” president who is sustaining so many of George Bush’s policies.
And it looks to me that we’re set to take a big step in the direction of:
“Oh, you guys want to protect the GOP status quo? Fine. NEXT! “
At least Boehner is an “honest” shit.
Obama ran as a progressive and turned out to be a “centrist” who has protected bidness-as-usual, at practically every turn.
If you want to reward him for doing that, and for the debacle he’s led us into, then be my guest, but I have a pretty good notion that you’ll be outnumbered in about 11 days.
“My religious belief doesn’t recognize your right to marry the partner of your choice, the way it recognized mine. But I would never stigmatize you for being different. And no one else should ever stigmatize you for being different either.”
“Speaker Boehner will make it all better, don’t you worry.”
With 10% unemployment; both shitmires alive and well; Wall Street bonuses going through the roof courtesy of Obama’s Bushian bailouts-with-no-restrictions, and with democrats about to get their asses handed to them…with a healthcare “reform” bill that was practically written by the CEO’s of Humana, Wellpoint, and BlueCross…etc., etc.,…
I’m not sure just what we should be rewarding Obama for DOING.
(If your answer is “Not starting a mid-east war by attacking Iran…” then I’d say (to steal a phrase from the loyalists) “Give the man time.”
Change You Won’t Live to See.
Centrist my ass. He turned out to be Bush Light. I wanted change, and I got chump change. Fuck the Democratic Party.
“Obama ran as a progressive and turned out to be a “centrist” who has protected bidness-as-usual, at practically every turn. ”
Obama ran as a progressive? The progressive who was against Gay marriage and for amping up the war in afghanistan? Now I understand why Obama is despised at FDL! You though you were voting for the black nadar instead of the black Ronald Reagan…
Stating the obvious: actions speak louder than words of sympathy.
Yes, he does. As CIC, he can send an executive order to Pentagon to stop enforcing it.
Don’t forget more drone strikes and less transparency (fewer press conferences up to this point in a presidency than any other).
*sarcastic finger clap*
Hillary did a video already
as always Obama is a poor reproduction of the real thing.
And as always he is a day late and a dollar short
race card 2 o’clock *duck*
Are you people serious? I’m a life-long “gay Republican” who has been voting (and donating) Dem since the idiotic invasion of Iraq, and you guys have almost convinced me to head back home and vote GOP this time. Of course I’m somewhat disappointed with Obama, but I got the hell over it. Do you really think a GOP takover of Congress is going to be any better?
I’ve listened for years to my old Republican friends bitching about how their elected officials weren’t “true to the cause”, and how someday they were going to vote them out and get some “real conservatives” in charge. Now they’ve got their dream candidates through the primaries in what could be a wave election. If that doesn’t scare the hell out of you, I don’t know what will.
Has Obama been somehwat of a let down? Of course! But every issue you care about goes away if either chamber of Congress changes hands. DADT repeal? The end. Overturing DOMA? Buh bye. So for ten more days just work to GOTV and start complaining again on Nov 3rd. Whoever controls the House will control the agenda until 2013.
BTW, I just want you to keep one thing in mind… the Senators who get elected this year will be there until at least 2016.
And the Democrats have been there since 2004, and they’ve done fuckall. Not a whole lot of incentive to keep them around. The end result is that the issues get addressed by nobody, the only difference is the narrative put out to the pundits. Since I can just turn off the TV, the difference is nil.
Since 2006, actually. But do you really think there is no difference between the crowd who annually proposed the “Federal Marriage Amendment”, and the ones who are one vote away from repealing DADT? Because the former are about to make their comeback tour.
“Somewhat of a letdown, my hiney!”
What he’s led us to on Nov. 2nd isn’t going to be “somewhat of a letdown”: it’s going to be a fucking catastrophe.
In 22 months, squandering a landslide victory over the assholes isn’t a letdown, it’s a hosing of historical proportions.
NO one on here is suggesting that anyone vote republican, but those of us not in the “Let’s reward him, anyway…” choir, are damn sure willing to see he and the rest of the “centrists” kicked out of office, rather than keep them in for more of the same shit.
Or does anyone think that losing even half of those big majorities in congress (If we’re lucky…) is going to make Obama discover his real, inner progressive self?
You weren’t paying attention. He said:
He would have all of our combat troops out of Iraq within 16 months of taking office, and ALL of our troops out of Iraq by the end of 2011.
In 2002, while Hillary was climbing on Bush’s warbot wagon, Obama was making a GREAT speech against the invasion of Iraq, and he made it square against the grain of all the koolaid drinking going on then.
He said that he would end taxes for seniors making less than 50K a year.
He said that he would protect our coastline from offshore drilling.
He promised a public option in the healthcare reform bill.
He repeatedly ripped Wall St. and the rest of the robber barons a new asshole, in his campaign speeches.
He was highly critical of the Bush administration’s excesses in using “national security” to shove a red, white, and blue proctoscope up our butts.
We weren’t fools to vote for him. He sounded so much better than McCain that there was no comparison, if you were a sane and decent human being.
I was on this blog a lot in the campaign, and I don’t recall you being so prescient as to say that he was going to go square back on most of what he talked about, and take a huge dump on us. Did I miss it?
Good shot, Jedimom.
Starting on Nov. 3rd, the Obama/Hillary relationship is going to slowly but steadily get a lot more interesting.
In the spirit of black-humor spectating about the political anarchy that is going to be Obama’s legacy, 2011-2012 is going to be a political ZOO.
They’ve been around since 2004 in sufficient numbers to force a rider on another piece of legislation or appropriations bill.
“Wanna keep your wars going? Then you’re going to let gays serve openly.” See, not that complicated.
They’re not one vote away from repealing DADT. DADT has already been repealed, thanks to the judiciary. The de facto leader of the Democratic Party is having his DoJ appeal the ruling, instead of letting the lower court decision stand. The Democrats are now fighting to keep DADT in place, most egregiously the asshole who made the video this blog post is about.
I said it before:
Ironically, the single greatest achievement in the movement toward repealing DADT was because of the Log Cabin Republicans. If it weren’t for them, there’d be nothing but continued empty promises, and at least now we get to watch Democrats be exposed for the con-artists they are. Just like the Republicans spent years doing to their socially conservative wing.
I think it’s going to be less of a “catastrophe” than people think, assuming we GOTV. Has Obama dropped the ball, again OF COURSE, but for the next ten days, let it go.
I am LOATHE to admit this but when I was a good College Republican, I went to Morton Blackwell’s “Leadership Institute” (google it if you don’t know what they are, as Sun Tzu might say). They’re nutjobs, but they also win elections, and if we’re not careful they’re going to win this one.
My point, as someone who has been burned (seeing Immigartion, same-sex parnters) over gay rights issues, it just really pains me to think that people will stay home because the issue hasn’t progressed as fast as it could.
My point was only that for ten frikkin’ days, let it go, and get as many Dems re-relected as possible, even the ones we don’t like. “Speaker Boehner” and “Majority Leader McConnell” will never even give us a second thought (well maybe McConnell will… sorry cheap shot).
We can call Obama a disgrace, and bitch about everything he’s failed us on, but just do it after the election.
Well after wading through 100 or so whiny assed titty baby comments If I were the president I wouldn’t give you the time of day. The reason he did not let the DADT ruling stand is because he made a deal with the pentagon. He would not shove it down their throats, and in return the pentagon would not object to repeal of DADT.He keeps his end of the bargain they keep their’s. Shut your pie holes,children this is already a done deal, just shut up and let it happen. It’s called making a deal, something you absolutist babies will never have to worry about because you will never be in a position to affect change.
I hope to Christ she doesn’t try to run again. It’s just not possible that the only people we’re willing to elect President come from either the Clinton Camp or the Bush Camp, because if that’s the best we can do, then we should just give up as a country now and get in line for which feudal lord we most want to live under.
The Democrats are supposedly powerless to do anything useful even with large majorities in both houses of Congress and holding the White House. If that’s true, then reflexively the Republicans even with similar majorities (which they won’t be even close to) are functionally powerless too.
It can’t be both ways. Either the Democrats have enough votes to pass useful legislation that matches our prerogatives, or they don’t. If they don’t, then the Republicans similarly won’t have the votes to pass anything that doesn’t match our prerogatives, so there’s nothing to fear. If they do, then they’re purposely not advocating for our prerogatives, because they oppose them.
The only way the situation gets worse is with Democratic complicity, and if the Democrats are content to make things worse right along with the Republicans, then it stands to reason there’s no particular purpose to sending them back to Washington to do it.
He’s not an asshole. He’s the president. I guaran-tickin-free you Hillary’s DOJ would have made the same decision. They’re pragmatists. It sucks, yes, but it’s reality.
I also would bet you cash money that on or about Dec. 12th, he’s going to sign the Defense Authorization bill that will include both DADT repeal, but also the DREAM ACT.
You’re bad at critical-thinking. If the judiciary rules and places an injunction against DADT, it isn’t Obama “cramming” anything down the Pentagon’s “throat.” With the judiciary making the call, it’s a war won without even firing a shot, no need for the “deal”, because the Pentagon’s “deal” doesn’t exist with the judiciary. It exists with the executive, in so far as there’s any accuracy at all to your narrative.
You’re absolutley right. They can just shut shit down, like they did before. And they can hold hearings. Lots and lots of hearings. What a fun couple of years it will be.
The strategist in me hopes they win one (and ONLY one) chamber so they can do just that. Obama will win with an even greater majority (and hopefully replace a couple more justices).
The policy guy in me is truly scared of the idea of a government shutdown. I don’t see a tech-boom on the horizon.
It’s not a matter of critical thinking,It’s a matter of access to the dealings of the principals involved. As I said before it is a done deal. Let it happen and stop whining.
He is an asshole. He continues to maintain a policy of administrative indefinite detention, a system of bullshit kangaroo courts, an American citizen assassination program, an ever expanding multi-front war that knows no borders and recognizes no sovereignty. And does so for no reason of any validity or soundness. He has no respect for life, nor liberty, and with the huge pile of fuck all he’s doing to clean up the financial sector (like using the FDIC to start roping in the big 12 into receivership) and his Deficit Commission gunning for SS, I suspect he’s not all that big on happiness either.
With respect to Dec. 12th, I will bet you my entire next year’s earnings that doesn’t happen. On or about Dec 12th, the President will not sign a bill that repeals DADT (there’s no need for legislation to end DADT now that it’s a Constitutional question), and that bill will also not include the DREAM Act. Bookmark this.
They should hold hearings, lots and lots and lots of hearings.
I’d be the first in line to throw my support behind impeachment for his atrocious expansion of already criminal Bush-era bullshit, the litany of shenanigans surrounding going way outside the Fed’s mandate to coddle the insolvent banking sector. If they instead decide to go on some trumped up crap like his citizenship, then I can just turn off the TV.
Either way, nothing useful is going to be accomplished by Democrats. How do we know? Because in three successive elections the people threw their support behind them until they had control of Congress and the White House, and they accomplished jackshit for the people.
Care to make the same wager with your annual salary? You seem pretty damn sure, what even providing a date and everything. Put your money where your mouth is.
Yes, he bacame president and the NIS got their hands on him. It sucks. It really sucks. I agree. Did he want it? No. Did he deserve it? Yes, he ran for POTUS. As a civil libertarian I changed parties for a reason and this wans’t it. I Got over it.
It would have happened to anyone who won.
ANYONE.
Except maybe Ghandi.
“The only thing this president wants is want any of them wants. Winning a second term.” -Aaron Sorkin
It sucks. I’ll admit that. But guess what happens next term (if he wins… and I’ll clue you in, this is why so many TeaBeggers voted for GWB)…. Replacing and Kennedy and hopefully Thomas.
But they’re not going to hold the hearings YOU want. It will be about how the individual mandate is unconstitutional. How the CPA is unconstitutional. And how TARP, which he didn’t even pass is… wait for it… unconstitutional.
There will probably be hearings about whether he did coke of some guy’s cock in the back of a limo.
You might not remember this, but I do. Google “Clinton Chronicles” and “Obama gay Coke”.
Just brace yourself.
I can’t afford that. But Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins will cave after Dec. 1st. Then Voinivich will too, and so will Brown. I’ll bet you a shiny Quarter.
If they held hearings about the individual mandate and TARP, that’d be enough for me.
Even if they don’t, and they just hold hearings over a bunch of bullshit, I’ll just tune it out of my life like I did with Clinton. If cock filled homoerotic coke binge rumors tie up the government to the point that nothing gets done, then I’m fine with that, because the something the Democrats are gearing up to do starts with monkeying around with Social Security.
It doesn’t really matter if you can’t afford it, since the passage of a DADT repeal bundled with passage of the DREAM Act will be certainly done by Dec 12th. You’ve got nothing to lose.
Seriously? GOP charges against Clinton: Intentionally killing our troops in Somalia, Travel-gate, Whitewater, murdering Vince Foster, shooting downing the plane of Sec. Brown, and killing a couple kids in Mina just to protect his drug trade. Who Cares?
Ends up, he just got a hummer from an intern during the GOP shutdown. IMPEACH!!!
Bring on the hearings!
Now your talkin’ some real issues, for which he definately should be held accountable. Do I think it will happen? Has it ever?