Remember the guys who were ejected from a public Bush appearance because of a bumper sticker?

The Roberts Court thinks you have no right to be where the powers that be don’t want you.

Political violence is a force multiplier. Democracy ends Nov. 3rd.

ICTBAD (It’sa Crime To Be A D)

Sure does suck when the “Brown Shirts” of the ReichtWing can get away theses egregious civil rights abuses whether they are private citizens or so called peace officers???

Is it in the policy and procedure manual at most police stations that a majority of the officers must be physically unfit?

How long will it take for a revolution after the American Nazi Party takeover?

Electing Dems won’t stop these monsters, debating does’t work against these knuckle draggers because their constituency is 50% neanderthal 50% drooling inbred.

Plus, they now don’t debate or allow the press to ask questions.

Because those questions “ar fur thoz dum intuhluctulz who do too much book lurnin.”

Let’s see, felony illegal detention of a Democrat trying to ask a question of Miller committed in Alaska by the GOP candidate’s hired thugs and no arrests. Felony assault and battery committed in Lexington, Kentucky in front of police officers against a MoveOn member for waving a sign and no arrests. A Democrat has the temerity to carry the wrong sign in Louisa, Virginia and the cops help the GOP thugs rough the guy up. A FOX “News” crew crashes a Democratic event and is allowed to remain and report on it. Anybody else seeing a pattern here? Why is it that the GOP is treated as the more “serious” and “sober” party when they are obviously the most uncivilized?

… insert obligatory doughnut joke here …

What fascist regime has fallen to revolution? Haven’t they all fallen to foreign invasion?

And we have nukes. Unless somebody kicks out the extension cord.

Sharon Angle says “I’ll start talking to the press after I’m elected.”

Angle: Well certainly it will be, because as you know, the lamestream media or the left-leaning progressive press are really very much in Harry Reid’s camp. They promote him as much as they can, and certainly that’s not their intent when they come to interview me.

Harris: Of course not. Right.

Angle: It’s not to promote me.

Harris: Right they don’t. Right.
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Angle: And I’m hoping that as we get into this once I get elected Senator that they will be much more civil and we will have a very civil discourse.

This kind of thuggery will continue until someone get seriously injured and sues for a gazillion dollars.

Apparently Olbermann is going to scold Progressives tonight on his special comment. That ought to help…
/s

Shaking head at the thought of Sharon Angle becoming a senator.

And we have nukes. Unless somebody kicks out the extension cord.

Dang it where is that fucking plug I meant to pull that a long fucking time ago!! Shit I keep forgetting. oh yeah sure sucks forgetting where things are..were??

Hmmm … I guess Spain’s regime faded away after Franco died.

On what basis?

Hear! Hear! As long as there are no consequences to these actions, there’s no incentive for the Neanderthals to behave themselves. Since law enforcement isn’t going to act, we must rely on lawsuits. Of course all they’d do is appeal it to the Robert’s court where it will be decided that assault at a political rally is “free speech”, (as long as it’s conservative on Progressive that is)

He better not or he will lose me as a viewer. Most times I agree with his “Special Comments”. In fact I was a bit worried when he said all those Truths about Bush & Cheney.

Like this?

Dunno. I haven’t heard it yet. I’m just speculating. He’s going to talk about the elections and the teabaggers, I figure the dirty f*cking hippies are about to be scolded again.

Democrats should run on an anti-lobbiest platform.

If the congresspeople are too busy (lazy) to study and understand an issue near and dear to their constituents, without being paid to be shills, then, perhaps they should be voted out.

Hey Peg which sword are you you using this evening?? you sure are sharp!!

sorta☺
How upstate NY tonight eCHAN?

My bat’leth :-D

More pointless violence and unnecessary use of force from assholes who should not have badges and/or guns.

It reminds me of the assholes who tased a university student for asking a politician annoying questions during a Q&A a few years ago.

Your high fructose corn syrup production agro tax dollars at work. Yet another place to cut the deficit. Don’t police departments have to budget extra for the big and tall sizes?

I think his special comment tonight will be about some stupidity or other of the O’Donnell campaign.

Sorry, but as an LEO no way, no how do I agree with the comments here. According to the news the owner of the coffee shop asked the individual to leave. The individual said no. Being on this man’s “private property” he should have complied. The Officer’s had no choice but to enforce the law. An Officer is sworn to uphold the law, whether he agrees or disagrees with the law is irrelevant. When told to comply the individual should have complied PERIOD. By arguing he was putting everyones safety in danger, he was brought to the ground and cuffed in legitimate fashion. If he didn’t want that to happen he should have placed his hands behind his back when told. That was neither the time nor place to argue, his fault, not one ounce of blame to those officer’s.

If memory serves, that was an arch conservative politician too.

Wet.

Made a bucketful of elk chili today (yum). Will still be too wet to do anything outdoors tomorrow am, so borscht cooking is on the agenda.

How’s with you.

I have a strategy for lowering republican turnout.

We pretend to be tea partiers and spread rumors about Russia and Cuba getting ready to invade the US and start WW3.

That should get those assholes back in their bunkers.

When they’re inside we cement them in, the problem will solve itself after they run out of freeze dried strogonoff and white milk substance substitute.

AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen David Dayen and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:

For at least the last 6 years I have been tryin’ ta tell progressives and “liberal” Democrats that we are in the midst of a fascist political assault and the only effective political response is for the Democratic Party to label the “conservatives” as fascists and mobilize working people, people of color, youth and the middle class behind an anti-fascist front under the banner of the Democratic Party. No one believed me when I said that the template for this fascist takeover was set in 1932-33 with money from the American oligarchy. Instead people haggled over definitions or identified the problem as one of thermadore reaction to the collapse of “liberal” political ideology. As a result, many on the left began to shoot willy nilly at every movin target beginnin’ with the “centerists” and the corporatists and the neo-liberals instead of educating these poor dupes as to the real enemy. Now were up to our necks in a real tub of shit and the people we mobilized in 2008 are lookin’ around wonderin’ where the hell we ran off to.

If I sound a little crabby it’s ‘cuz I jest finished another 3 hours of GOTV and I’m here to tell you that the votes are out there but the leadership is not…in fact, this election is a perfect opportunity for progressive grassroots action but the folks who should knopw better are sittin on their hands.

If you haven’t already gotten off yer ass contact MoveOn, Democracy Now or your local Democratic Party and get on the telephone.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION IF YA WON’T FIGHT YER OWN FUCKIN’ BATTLE!!

I hope you’re right because a scolding will piss a whole lot of people off. Olbermann and Jonathan Alter are peas in a pod though. Of the cheer louder variety.

Great choice!!!

Hey, why be conventional I always say…

We be doing Ok. Watching the World Series and waiting for the next front to give us rain tomorrow..

Oops send me some of that Chili please of please????

By arguing he was putting everyones safety in danger, he was brought to the ground and cuffed in legitimate fashion.

Righto. No such thing as excessive force anymore. Let alone all the false assertions before this sentence in your comment.

Just outta curiosity, how does sitting at a table at a restaurant put anyone in danger. (Never mind, rhetorical Q.)

I really pity you. You must be so afraid of your fellow humans that you rarely go out in public.

And what does being a leo explain your warped view of humanity? Is that why you led with it?

Keith is ripping the “T” Party ReichtWingNuts a new ASSHOLE!!!

It’s in the freezer in single serving amounts. Should last me the entire winter.

“University of Florida student Tasered at Kerry forum,” Sept. 17, 2007

On what basis?

That progressives aren’t smart enough to vote for failures who have proven that they won’t/can’t work for the interests of the people who put them in power and for the good of this country, I suppose.

I dunno. KO’s rant sounds very much like U.S. history.

DROOL….
Guess with our weather I will just have to make some of my own… Been cooking chili forever just ask Newt and Suzanne they sampled it.

The man was asked to leave “private property” What part of that are you having a problem comprehending sir? He was not sitting at his kitchen table. Sorry the law is not in your taste but it is the law. He was in a public place and was told to leave by the “owner of the property”. That is it, period, end of story. He was wrong and was arrested, as he deserved to be.

So far he’s scolding the ‘baggers or at least hanging them with their own words.

Guessing you missed the part about excessive force.

And for the record, it’s not sir.

I hope you’re right because a scolding will piss a whole lot of people off.

I think that the WH and co initially wanted to blame progressives, but that they’ve figured out how badly it’d play out going into 2012 and so have made sure that the bad economy will be blamed rather than progressives.

Rahm was probably behind the initial strategy, while this far more boring line about the bad economy being to blame is coming from someone who knows how to let a disaster get quietly swept under the rug.

Every tavern around here is required to post a written notice as to their policy stating a right to refuse service and possibly to eject a patron.

A blanket request for all “Democrats,” to leave immediately is discrimination and if this shop is open to the public and these customers were there during normal business hours the shop owner should be sued big time under federal statutes.

Maybe you should watch the video a few times before you spout like that. Besides it IS a public space he was just sitting peacefully no need to use force as was documented! He has a great case hope he sues the owners ass off.

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Obama and the other sellout Democrats see the greatness of this country not in its people, but in its corporations.

Here we go.

Progressives are the enablers of corporatist Republicans because they won’t vote for corporatist Democrats.

There was no “excessive force” used anywhere in that video. No one with an ounce of common sense would see any excessive force. If the man put his hand behind his back like TOLD numerous times, he never would have been bought to the ground. Thank you for living in a fantasy world but that is not how it works. Personally, I would have tasered his ass for non-compliance. He is lucky those Officers only bring him to the ground. And before you go crying about the taser, I would have well within my right legally and morally to do so. So thank you sir for your totally, 100% wrong view on what happened.

Yep. He got around to scolding the stay at homes and apathetic in the end. Nice rant though

Sorry but it is not the end of the story. You Sir did not do your job what you did was use the law to discriminate against someone that you did not agree with. You are now a paid thug, not an officer of the law.

According to the “owner” he was causing a disturbance, so thank you for being so wrong.

seig Heil Mein Herr !!!

Rahm was probably behind the initial strategy…

I’m more than willing to believe that. :)

What by sitting at a table ***Edited in Moderation***!

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The sky is not blue, sir. Water is not wet. I see no reason to argue with you. Move along, sire. Move along.

Wow! The Louisa PD is representing at FDL. Who knew?

bobby did…

***Edited in Moderation*** The Officer is bound to enforce the law whether he agrees with the law or not. Again, the man was told to leave “private property”, and he refused. End of story. Not up to Law Enforcement to agree or disagree, he was told to leave, he didn’t, he broke the law and was arrested. I hope next time ***Edited in Moderation*** are in trouble you call your friends, so we don’t have to deal with Law Enforcement hating idiots like you. Have a wonderful night.

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Our bobbyd12 only registered to comment on this thread. S/he is a transient troll, nothing more. I’ve little doubt that s/he is a member of or closely related to law enforcement officers. No sense in arguing with somebody who has an “us against them” attitude. Just p*ssing in the wind.

Because money knows the R’s are more on board and will allow the robbery quicker.

For the time being they will throw a little show money around to the jack boots and jerks. In the end they won’t need them other than whatever minimum is needed for force.

There is more money on the other side, so people (especially when honest jobs are hard to come by) will join the other side.

Divide and Conquer – its the gays and non-white! Not the banker and oil company robbing everyone blind and need this cover.

They got it. The D’s did not do shit for 2 years (where is the narrative, where is the vote on Bush Tax cuts for the rich, where is protecting SS, etc, etc). Obama did not even make good speeches to try and lead by at least words and motivation (though now words are not going to cut it).

I’d like to officially lodge a complaint with the mods. This person is getting more and more out of line.

Oops! I see they are on the ball as usual and beat me to it!

Would you also be in favor of kicking blacks & browns outta restaurants ‘cuz the owner doesn’t want them there? Just askin.

Hey Mods I see Da filters are working… sometimes it is just to hard to put these Trolls in their place, they come to the Lake just to disrupt the community, not to really add anything..

What she said (will talk to press and people after the election) is not all that much different than what the D’s are saying.

Not all of them, but the national strategy (see any Axelrod, Ed Rendell, Nancy & Harry on tax votes they don’t want to explain until after the election, Obama on DADT, etc).

Now the D’s are much more sane for the most part – so they have that going for themselves I guess.

See everyone hates Congress, but (have been hoodwinked by via Kabuki danc e and vote trading – or bills they sponser that don’t get heard or passed) loves their CongressCritter.

I have one more debate to watch tomorrow. And then though I want to puke on the D’s I will likely vote for them one more time. I planned not to do it, but I likely will. I will not vote for Obama in the primary 2012, and if someone who is not batshit crazy is running against him I will not in the general.

Oh, and as I predicted in SEP-2009 (when Obama got off his lying ass and started to talk about HIR) the R is going to win the Senate (up by 8 points) & may well send the same old asshole R back to the House that was ousted in 2006 after 12 years… and now he has a good chance to go back.

Worst of all worlds – not only a switch in party every 10 years – but actually rotating the same loser individuals in cycles.

Your mindset is a prime example of why the LE profession is held in such universally high regard.

Tell us all how he was “Endangering other patrons”? By risking one of your compatriot’s stray rounds hitting one of them?

Let em prattle on, who cares. Just exposes them anyway.

Dog-gone, was going to request another friend. /s

NYC has a buncha alterntives. Here’s one. I plan to vote for any alternative on the ticket.

For RandPaul Shrugged – someone please print up the signs and Tea-Shirts with “Don’t Tread On Me” and then that guy treading on the women’s head while wearing a “dont tread on me” button.

Bat. Shit. Crazy.

Oh, and good thing the Dems in the house had all those hearings… so we better make sure the Dem’s keep the House so the hearings can continue… oh wait! They did not! Now they are going to take it hard.

Shit. I have fond memories of hanging out with selise watching hearings.

As reinforcing as that was at the time, whadda waste of time.

Good point. They did not allow the other candidates in the debate. Gotta check the other options.

The congress is between two political families. One R’s… the other a “D” from an R family dynasty – so she is now a “liberal” since the tent has moved.

They needed to make the R’s bat shit crazy just so there is a difference with the D’s.

With all the money in pols, and all the stupid candidates that are going to be elected this time – its essentially all over. They have the money, and money is all that counts. They will not hear from people when they are already elected, and they don’t need to hear from people or answer questions when they are running. No luck for campaign finance reform since the money is already in there.

Me thinks the media also likes that 2B in ads as well.

And R’s do R’s better than a D… I just don’t see the point of a D…

If I had a billion dollars and the R would do everything I wanted and fast, and the D would do it slower and give me a little tiny bit of shit about it (basically selling the fact that they can cover it up better) – I imagine I would want to cut through the bull and just ram it through with the R.

The story of a “man” an “officer” an an “individual”

Don’t know why they allowed all the other candidates into the NYS gov debate, but they did. It’s another one of those sitchiations where Cuomo will win, but chance to cast a protest vote. EVERY protest vote counts.

Thinking bobby got drummed out.

On edit: Without cuffs, or tazer or law enforcement. Golly gee.

Since when is a coffee shop private property Bob? Either you’re there to serve the public or you’re not. Its one thing if he was disturbing the meeting. Its another thing if he was being polite and respectful.I also can’t believe his son just stood there and did’t come to the aid of his dad.If a couple of LEO’s did that to my dad, there would have been hell to pay.

We elected 257 + ~60 + 1 leaders in 2008. Where the hell are they? And if not them then who?

We can’t get millons of people voting, and then have our “leaders” go quite.

Most people thought we elected good leaders in 2008 and they are not good. Obama did not even speak on HIR until SEP-2009 to little to late after secret deals so he was lying when he did speak. And he speaks 6 weeks before the election after threating the people you mention “professional left” with losing their jobs rather then the elected leaders doing anything.

Look at the cat food commision – can’t elected leaders do anything?

I see what your saying, and fear you are right – fear because the people we voted in with much more support last time did not even talk about delivering on these things.

Now Harry Reid is talking on TV about spit balls and 60 votes and changing the rules. FUCK THAT. Let’s reduce the number of votes needed so that when the right comes to power they can do stuff again with fewer votes that harry is crying about.

WHAT THE HELL IS THEIR PROBLEM!

harry is now saying he talked to mitch and they are going to work together after the election.

THEY ARE FULL OF SHIT. Ha Ha Rachel M is now calling him out saying mitch’s stated goal is Obama as a one-termer.. so much for his private converstation with mitch…. hahahah we are so screwed.

Bush passed his tax cuts on dick’s 51st vote. The D leaders just throw stuff away for nothing.

What actions did they take about the SCOTUS CU case?

words DO work!!

What did Obama and Clinton do about Blackwater…NOTHING.

Anyway, the list is well known. I think Hugh maintains it (he is a hero).

Dude…
Just peeking in – why the **** are you not glued to your tv?

OH I am Newt I am… 8-2 GIANTS!!!!

Go!!!!!!!! Giants!!!!!!!!!

You Betcha! Wink wink

What fascist regime has fallen to revolution? Haven’t they all fallen to foreign invasion?

And we have nukes. Unless somebody kicks out the extension cord.

Um, I’m going to go with… Spain. Franco was ousted without Spain being invaded.

This has been another episode of, “I Took Tyranny to Democracy in the 20th Century in College!”

:-)

Hey, just think of this as another example of the Republicans’ privatize-everything-that-is-public scheme.

In this case (and others, like Joe Miller’s “public event” up in Alaska), something touted as a “public event” suddenly becomes a private venue as soon as any Democrat shows up. “Hey, Democrat, you’re trespassing at our “public event.” Get out.”

This is a repeat of the criminal corruption of the previous Bush/Cheney administration. Hatch Act? Trash it. Federal bidding process? Naw, replace it with no-bid contracts, almost completely awarding any federal taxpayer-funded business to crony Republican individuals and companies.

The present-day Republican Party is corrupt to the core, totally anti-American, totally dominionist, exclusionary to a fault, secessionist-minded, with sedition the driving force behind almost everything the Republican Party does.

What an idiot. You do not resist arrest. Go quietly and walk with a big lawsuit. Oh, you resisted arrest, now that’s out.

If a lawsuit is what you are aiming at, you might do better pressing the case that being ejected from private property during a public event – there will be proof of the status of the event – is a tort of a better stripe.

This will rest largely on the ‘friendliness’ of a judge in Cantor’s home district, and if the victim gets himself a really good lawyer. We know where those can be found.

Robert O. Paxton, in The Anatomy of Fascism says that Franco was not a fascist, but an authoritarian. He crushed the Falangest party, which was the fascist party, and had the leader killed. There was no real mechanism in place for Franco’s sucession.

Well, I remembered Franco at comment #17, so maybe I get a point for that. I never heard that Franco was not a fascist. Was this more a matter of competing fascist parties?

Anyway, the overall take-away from this incident and our friendly visitor tonight is that you can’t count on support from law enforcement. They are there to enforce the laws as they have been trained in them, which is to say they are there to support the Establishment, and when the fascists become the Establishment, law enforcement will be there taser in hand to do their lawfully-enacted bidding. Violence in service to authority, complete with tin star and a pension (at taxpayer expense).

Franco never supported the fascists (Germany or Italy) even though he welcomed their help to defeat the Republicans. Spain under Franco was, therefore, apparently was seen to be fascist.

I think I gave the wrong impression. I did not mean to criticize you, I was simply inserting a little clarification. Perhaps I should have specifically noted that in my comment.

4cdave, the system would not allow me to respond to you because I tried to edit after too long of a time and the whole thing collapsed. Law enforcement people tend to use force too often in these situations. After all, a restaurant has an owner, but it is in business to serve the public. Therefore, if an event is happening that has not specifically caused the restaurant to be closed, it cannot suddenly be private property to exclude someone. In this case, it seems that the officers were acting as bouncers for the owner.

For many authoritarians, the highest morality is obedience.

“Do you hate cops?”
“No, but I feel better when they’re not around.” –Mickey Rourke as Bukowski in “Barfly”

A question: Do you want the police to make a decision as to whether or not a property owner has a legitimate reason to ask someone to vacate their property?

It’s really not the job of the police to determine whether a shop owner has called the police to have a brown-skinned man removed from their property simply because he is brown or if it is because he is actually causing a disturbance. If the brown lea man has been asked to leave and he won’t leave then it is the job of the police to simply remove him from the property with as little force as possible.

The courts can settle whether or not the man was being discriminated against because he is brown.

I’d sure hate to have tub o’ lard land on me. OoooFfffff!
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