I don’t even know what to say about this kind of moral blindness:
A federal watchdog reported Monday that the Obama administration’s signature anti-foreclosure program sometimes causes people to lose their homes to foreclosure — a conclusion that had already been reached by some homeowners and their advocates.
The Treasury Department, which administers the Home Affordable Modification Program, did not respond to that claim in its answer to the watchdog’s report. But a Treasury official told HuffPost on Tuesday that no one who is current on their mortgage payments can become delinquent because of a HAMP modification.
Consumer advocates heartily disagree.
“Treasury’s wrong about that,” said Diane Thompson, a lawyer with the National Consumer Law Center. “Everybody comes out of the trial modification period owing more than they did when they went in, and everybody comes out with their credit worse.”
This is just a truism based on the Treasury Department’s own design for HAMP. Every trial modification payment reads as a default to the credit reporting companies. The Treasury Department could have set it up so that didn’t happen; they chose not to intervene in that reality. All of the money between the trial modification and the original payment that borrowers don’t pay during their trial period gets tacked on as part of the unpaid principal balance at the end. The servicers also tack on late fees. Treasury could have banned that. They chose not to intervene. The servicers can proceed with foreclosure operations during the trial period, arguing that the borrower is in default. They can’t actually foreclose (also in some cases they have). But they can go through the legal process. Treasury could have put a stop to that. They didn’t. Borrowers keep getting told they have to miss a payment to be eligible for HAMP. Treasury actually didn’t put that into the design. But they haven’t sanctioned a single servicer for this or any other violation of the program guidelines. They could have done something. They didn’t.
What has happened, over and over, and this is well-documented not just by me but by numerous people who have looked at this, is that people make all their payments in trial modification, get stretched out for six months or more when the trial period is supposed to only last three months, and then get denied for a permanent mod for whatever reason (usually the servicer doesn’t give one). At that point, the borrower gets hit with a demand payment for the difference between the trial payment and the original payment, and tacked-on fees. The servicer wants that immediately or they will foreclose. And they carry through on that threat frequently, because the borrower doesn’t have the money accumulated over those many months to make in a lump sum – that’s why they sought a modification in the first place. Therefore, you have someone current on their payments getting foreclosed upon. It happens all the time.
Bank of America staffers repeatedly told Troy Taliancich, for instance, that he he was seriously delinquent because of his reduced HAMP trial payments, but that he should continue to make the reduced payments anyway. Eventually, the bank stopped accepting his payments altogether because he was in foreclosure. Even as he was making the trial payments the bank told him to make, it turned out, the arrears and fees piled up. “I was only a payment behind when I first called,” he said. “I could overcome one payment amount if I had known.”
Treasury chose this program. They chose its design. They don’t get to blind themselves to the consequences.
By the way, this coward wouldn’t even allow the reporter, Arthur Delaney, to quote him by name. Small wonder as to why.



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The point is not to tell a defensible lie, but to confuse matters such that anyone not fully conversant with the facts will consider it a “He said/she said” situation. Then the media can call the facts “controversial.”
“Some people just don’t like movies with happy endings”
so nyeah !!!
omf….g!
Thank you David for another good piece of reporting. This is the first time I have understood anything about how this works. This whole mortgage industry has been a criminal enterprise and now with Obama choosing criminals to administer remedies just perpetuates the crimes on good conscientious citizens, just trying to do the right thing.
Yeah but the Republicans are even worse so we’re fired up and ready to go vote for the Democrats.
– Obedient Centrist
You go, David, and thank you! Recommended!!
HAMP is the program designed by banks to ensure that they not only do not have to modify the principle or payments (and recognize the associated losses), but also to separate folks like Troy Taliancich who were only moderately behind on their mortgage from property that the banks were certain that these people neither earned nor deserved so that the banks can keep the property on their books at the improperly inflated values (through mark-to-myth accounting and purchased property value appraisals) and thereby maintain the myth of their solvency.
Theft through mortgage fraud and foreclosure fraud with the backing and assistance of the U.S. government.
Sounds like Troy Taliancich is sorry he believed the government would solve his problems.
I picture a giant, dark, spiralling tornado. It sucks everything up; wealth, homes, property, small business, vehicles, and pulls them to the top of the stratosphere, where it redistributes everything. It leaves behind only destruction and misery.
Geithner should be in jail — right next to Summers.
What the Treasury had done is create an illegal debt collection service. They have induced the borrowers to make payments on false premises. They have become part of the crime. It would be no big deal except for the thousands of innocents who are being thrown out of their homes when they did everything the thought was the right thing to do. This country is hopeless. When the government becomes complicit in the crime and no one stops the crime while it is being committed? When you think that this is happening under the auspices of a Democratic Administration the hopelessness deepens.
guys you don’t have to read the whole thing, but click on my link at 2 above – the “happy endings” bs is the White House response to SIGTARP
who left in their right fucking mind thinks they are going to do anything to stop the lawlessness and help struggling american families ?!?!
The credibility of liberalism, down the drain, thanks to Obama. I hope he’s happy.
Tangential– The bold-italics is my emphasis in this excerpt from “MERS Fraud Impact On CMBS: Up To $280 Billion Per Barclays,” by Tyler Durden, Oct. 27, 2010:
In regard to the relationship between government and Wall Street, I have yet to see ANY evidence the GOP would be any worse. I even suspect they might be better because they are more realistic about what these guys are like.
That is positively Nixonian when the White House starts to attack Special Inspector Generals.
The stuff Nixon did seems downright petty and benign compared to what Bush and now Obama are doing to the office of the president.
Sadly, the Obama Treasury Dept. lies as readily as the Bush version.
The way that I see it, the GOP is simply the political-government arm of Big Corporations and Big Money. The DINOs need to be tossed out, and the progressives need to dig in for the fight of their political lives.
DDay,
Jeebuz, I can only assume that Treasury is still in denial about CDS’s. As masaccio, Yves at NakedCapitalism, Barry Ritholtz, Dylan Ratigan, and for chrissakes even the Financial Times and the NYT have explained, the whole goal of ‘investors’ and hedge funds was to create a system of shitty mortgages that they could bet *against* in order to get a CDS payoff.
This is now increasingly obvious to anyone paying reasonable attention.
So not even discussing the level of Credit Derivative Swaps (CDS’s) in the picture, which is one level ‘above’ the activity that Treasury talks about in your quotations, is either a scary kind of obliviousness, or else complicity.
I don’t know which it is (perhaps a mix of both).
But Treasury shows far too much credulity in the quotations that you’ve selected to be taken seriously.
It might be funny if it weren’t all so tragic.
Excellent editing suggestion Margaret!
You’ve corrected not only my sentence, but my thinking ;-)
Well, I really don’t care about someone’s political life very much you see. Not when compared to where we’re headed as a nation.
You have that right.
I agree whole heartily rOTL Margaret is a great editor!
In other words, the fraudulent loans formed the basis of a system of insurance fraud that was implemented via CDS’s.
And the ‘investors’ in those CDOs and CDSs…?
No way to know in a completely opaque, secretive system without oversight.
As Yves Smith points out, compared with the CDO market, the trading pits of Chicago’s exchanges are filled with honorable traders.
And according to Prof William Black, in the last few weeks Prof Joesph Stiglitz has said ‘this meltdown is mostly about fraud.’ Hell, James Chanos said a similar thing on CNBC last summer, so it’s hardly any secret if they’re both saying this publicly (!).
You’d think with all the public discussion starting to happen about the flagrant mortgage fraud, plus people catching on to the CDS’s, that Treasury would comprehend that their butt-covering weasel words aren’t going to cut it any longer.
Must be that Treasury is too deep in denial to see what is increasingly obvious to millions of us.
And remember, it was the GWBush admin that failed to fund FBI mortgage investigators back as far as 2004. Shameful.
Ding!!!
8^}
I agree, except that the redistribution consists of the shattered pieces of what used to be a whole life.
wow, cbl, just…wow. I am fucking speechless.
The political system is in the hands of malicious, greedy, and incompetent 8th graders.
I am really mystified. Simple safeguards that would not cost that much, completely ignored. It is not even in the interest of the banks to hoard the land and impoverish the people. The country can’t flourish with millions of people, most at the most productive ages with their credit ruined and compounding debt.
(beautifully said)
Obama needs to find and channel the muse of moral leadership.
Treasury also paid the servicers for every modification application.
Remember that? I wonder if they got paid every time they “lost” the paperwork requiring the same homeowner to fill out the paperwork two and three times?
Probably.
There are none so blind as those who will not see. Exhibit A: 2000-2008. If you can’t see that evidence, you are simply not willing to look.
HAMP is TARP 2.01
Obama/Bernanke/Geithner/Summers could have written that differently as well, but chose to give interest free loans to the banks…and put US on the hook for the entire world economic meltdown.
I don’t know why they want these houses sitting around falling apart, but I’m sure there’s a New World Order reason
“The republicans are worse” Worse than what?
Only if you’re arguing that it is worse to get thrown our of your home by a republican than a democrat. Sorry my friend – the HAMP program is 100% of the Obama administration’s making. You can’t put it’s dismal failure on anyone except them.
Why is there nothing about this Foreclosure crisis on the TV ?
Why aren’t so called progressive people in the media,particularly those on MSNBC(Olberman ,Maddow & Shultz) not reporting on this Fraud ?….maybe from their elitist perch this means nothing,since it’s ordinary Americans.
I’ve only got one question. When are we going to see people in the financial industry going to jail for fraud?
HAMP wouldn’t even exist without fraud. So, why aren’t people in jail?
Terminal Capitalism sucks.
Good go vote for the Dems so they can keep doing the same thing they did the last 2 yrs…..empower corporations even more.That’s right go get the hangman the nose he is going to use to hang ya.
Bob Dylan – Like a Rolling Stone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIWUcLvT0tU&feature=player_embedded
People aren’t in jail cuz Barack Obama is major part of the problem…They can’t blame the GOP for this…this was designed by a Dem Treasury secretary & the WH.
And it funny how no Dem member of congress is speaking out for their constitutents on this issue.They are all very quiet,pretending this problem doesn’t exist.These are whom people are going to go re-elect.
GWBush left 2yrs ago.
Appears to be part of the plan so I suspect he, and his masters, are very delighted.
Treasury Secretary Geithner’s forclosure blitzkrieg is born of fraud and fueled by forgery.
Do we have to wait for the banksters to forclose on West Point before we call it treason?
I believe the Lying ASS, Obummer: “CHAINS we can believe in”!
On TV? Dylan Ratigan on MSNBC has provided reasonable coverage. But from what I’ve noticed, that’s about it.
As for radio, seems like NPR is finally turning the corner on this issue. Today’s Fresh Air w/Terry Gross spent an entire hour interviewing Gretchen Morgenson about our forclosure fiasco.
Simply because of the way banks are structured and the way mortgage loans are carried on the books, you have to MAKE the lenders and the servicers accept some basic rules. I know, I work for a bank and have done mortgages for over 30 years. Treasury was remiss in not asking the basic question of “how will this work” of those who know the system. I hate to say they should have asked insiders but they should have. In this case they did not do their homework and the flaws hurt everyone. These institutions are not going to lose money if they can get around it and it appears the system was set up so they could get around anything which is the true story of the financial crisis.
Just an idiotic statement on your part..get yourself back under that rock.
TARP will make money…HAMP was never designed, however badly, to do that. HAMP can be changed as it is not too late.
There was and is plenty of greed to go around on the part of all parties. You are very right about the banks; they are not going to do anything they are not forced to do. The way to fix this problem is to force them to mark these mortgages to market and forgive the difference to the borrower while they modify the payments to the new balances. And what you will then engender is a firestorm of cries of “socialism” from the right. You will also likely destroy the financial positions of many foreign and domestic providers of mortgage lenders and servicers. But, if you want to cure this and take the medicine now, it is probably the best way.