David Broder, seemingly the songwriter behind that awful Kid Rock tune yesterday, comes up today with his prescription to save Barack Obama’s presidency: a third war with a Muslim country.
Look back at FDR and the Great Depression. What finally resolved that economic crisis? World War II.
Here is where Obama is likely to prevail. With strong Republican support in Congress for challenging Iran’s ambition to become a nuclear power, he can spend much of 2011 and 2012 orchestrating a showdown with the mullahs. This will help him politically because the opposition party will be urging him on. And as tensions rise and we accelerate preparations for war, the economy will improve.
I am not suggesting, of course, that the president incite a war to get reelected. But the nation will rally around Obama because Iran is the greatest threat to the world in the young century. If he can confront this threat and contain Iran’s nuclear ambitions, he will have made the world safer and may be regarded as one of the most successful presidents in history.
The argument that going to war (or preparing for war) with Iran would boost the economy has been ably dealt with by Dean Baker, who says that there’s nothing magic about building tanks that you cannot derive from building roads. However, I would go further. We’re already involved in two wars, have been for close to an entire decade, and during that time have had the lowest economic growth since WWII. There’s nothing magic about war spending that automatically boosts an economy, either. Furthermore, you’d have a “you or what army” problem with a third war, and would need to de-escalate somewhere – Iraq would be likely – in order to fight Iran. But considering the closeness between the expected Iraqi government and Tehran, eventually you’d have a full battle across both those countries, in all likelihood. And the military has no capacity for that. Not to mention the fact that any war scenario affecting the Straits of Hormuz would probably send global oil prices skyrocketing and cancel out whatever stimulative effects come from it.
But beyond the economic confusion, there’s the sociopathy that accompanies this cheerleading. David Broder hasn’t met an economic prescription he likes, so he naturally assumes, like all the Villagers, that the only way to build an economy is on the backs of dead brown people. This would, after all, provide that all-important “sacrifice” so important to Villagers, in this case not just the sacrifice of lower retirement benefits or a reduced standard of living but actual human sacrifice.
Broder writes this in a week where Iran has agreed to nuclear talks, by the way, but I’m assuming he doesn’t read his own newspaper.





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I nearly burst a blood vessel when I read that article and was on the way over here to link to it. He (capriciously, I guess) ignores the overwhelming evidence of 1) the loss to all of us (tax dollars and troops) from the two wars waged now for almost an entire decade and 2) the continuing dismal state of the economy over that decade. He also omits pointing out that we the “small people” will of course be expected to fund yet one more massive act of aggression in the ME–and to supply more troops (either from our families or through our tax dollars awarded to Blackwater, et al.). I think the time is way overdue for this guy to retire. What an illogical and irresponsible article!
Many, many thanks, David, for giving the article the attention it rightfully deserves. (And please pardon my outburst.)
Of course, a war would help the economy especially for the rich. War profiteering is the number one industry already. Plus Broder and the Washington Post get secret government subsidies for supporting wars from Total Information Awareness. So war propaganda is also a productive subsidy for Dee Cee “journalists” with ‘access”.
But the wars must be paid for some time. Where could the money come from, without burdening the uber wealthy? How about using Social Security Surpluses to pay for them. I am sure David Broder and Cokie Roberts will think that is a splendid idea.
1. Attack Iran
2. ???
3. Get Re-elected
Well – I don’t even know where to start. It makes me crazy that a stupid evil piece of shit like Broder is so well paid.
Do we still bill the tanks? I seem to remember we outsourced that to the UK.
Broder is an AIPAC tool, through-and-through…! 8-(
Best justification for starting a war EVER. Now all Obama has to do is come up with some WMD story and sell to the American people. Genius.
He also thinks he’s a member of the greatest generation and special.
Is it possible that he’s so well paid because he’s a stupid evil piece of shit?
Here’s a post I wrote last Sunday, if anybody’s interested…
Debunking The ‘Bomb, Bomb, Iran’ Crew… Again!
It’s hard to believe that so many opinion “journalists” have credited war as the reason for ending the Great Depression. If that were true, how could we ever have entered a serious recession since we have had TWO WARS going for over 7 years. What does Broder have to say about the very serious deficit that followed WWII? It was a greater percentage of GDP than we have now, but that was solved by the POST war economy and the G.I. Bill. Broder isn’t past his prime, he’s never been prime.
He doesn’t read his own paper. He thinks he already knows all there is to know. It doesn’t matter that the US does not have the money to fight the two we are in now.
Wish someone would ask him if he planned to finance his war.
Iran has not been a threat to us yet. However, Isreal is totally in hate with them.
D-Day, here’s an update on the Iran Nuke talks…
Iran nuclear talks in jeopardy again
TEHRAN: Iran will not discuss its nuclear program at talks with global powers, an adviser to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Sunday, adding fresh doubt to the chances of a negotiated end to its stand-off with the West.
i stopped reading this guy years ago after i skimmed like 2 of his articles
what a blowhard
David Broder should be in prison.
War is just another form of stimulus spending but it is distructive not productive spending.
The only reason that WW2 helped the economy after the war is that we were the only country that had the capacity to rebuild what we had helped to destroy.
I read earlier today that the Pentagon is selling billions of war supplies to Saudi Arabia. Wonder if his little note to the readers has anything to do with that?
Israel wants this, so, end of story.
Time for more terra scares, even a successful attack. Every president needs one now.
It’s too bad Iran can fight back and the attendant economic and international blowback will destroy us for good. The lunatics running this asylum don’t care about such trifles.
I am not suggesting, of course, that the president incite a war…
well – of course not. /s
OT – there are two – yeah count ‘em TWO George fucking Bushes throwing out the first pitch at tonight’s World Series Game. Avert your eyes – no one should be forced to watch that.
We weren’t 13 going on 14 Trillion in debt back then.
Sounds like a schoolyard challenge. Israel is baiting the President’s megalomania to get him to fight another proxy war for Israel.
Nothing will motivate the Giants more.
Laugh all you want Broder is a corporate hack he writes what the Corporations want they seem serious about a new war.
Wow. Google “David Broder” and under the “News” section which is at the very top of the page, one sees these two results first, both in reference to this most recent Broder piece:
Foreign Policy magazine: What was David Broder smoking?
OpEd News: David Broder Wants a Disastrous War with Iran to Boost the Economy
Are you fucking kidding me??? David Broder is a sycophant dedicated to the destruction of human lives for fucking profit!!!
Sick beyond words. One of those whom the human race could do without…
When was the last time David was right about anything remember his Bush’s popularity would bounce meme? Still he is the voice of corporate whoredom.
It would be cool if they get a reception like this one.
David the Dean of WH correspondents is being attacked by the MSM? I feel faint!
Holy crap! This was a stupid idea back in August, too, when Elliott Abrams was pushing the same lunacy:
The Obama who had struck Iran and destroyed its nuclear program would be a far stronger candidate, and perhaps an unbeatable one. Now, from my perspective that is no reason to stop Iran’s nuclear program, but I’m a Republican. It’s inevitable that as Iran creeps closer to the Bomb and Obama creeps closer to defeat, Democrats — above all, the ones in the White House — will start wondering exactly why striking that nuclear program is such a terrible idea. They’ll start re-examining the likely Iranian reactions (they don’t really want a war with us, do they? Regime survival and all all that?), the down-sides of an Israeli strike (hey, we’re the leaders of the free world, after all), the military challenge (well, the Air Force isn’t very busy, and it’s just a few sites to hit). They will of course not tell themselves this re-assessment is related to politics; they will persuade themselves they are doing what’s right for the security of our country. Watch.
WMD may not even be necessary. Of the two elements of the myths that jacked us to war in Iraq, it was sufficient, but not necessary. It wasn’t just the WMDs, it was WMDs in the hands of scawy Muslims, right? The necessary element is the demonized Other.
What’s the one commodity Israel can offer this “Christian” nation than no other country can? Access to Heaven’s gates themselves. A disconcerting number of people completely conflate events in the Levant with biblical prophecy. We, the US, they believe, must support the state of Israel, because, our priests and preachers (and pundits like Broder) tell us — that’s the only sure-fire way we’ll get our sorry asses into heaven.
Iran is already being sold as threatening Israel’s very existence, with the subtext being a threat to access to Heaven for all Christians and Jews. History shows the proximal cause for war can be just about anything, as long as you threaten your recruits with the eternal fires of hell for not following orders.
“Human sacrifice” is exactly it, DDay. In Broder’s view, the people we kill aren’t victims, they’re tokens of the majesty of our god (and there can be only one, you know). That makes them not evidence of our war criminality, it makes them lucky stiffs.
He who piles up the biggest stack of lucky stiffs wins, right?
David Broder is a sycophant dedicated to the destruction of human lives for fucking profit!!!
but not his… he’s only dedicated to sacrificing the lives of other people’s sons and daughters.
Like my son, for example.
Bad title. Better one:
Broder has been around forever. Any chance dementia plays a role here? I am quite serious. The idea of starting a war with Iran is so bizarre on its face that I wonder about this guy’s mental status.
David being a concern troll for Obama’s welfare is so obvious even Rahm might see this one.
Speaking of your son…! What’s the latest…? ;-)
Well, if there really were two wars going on, then yes the economy would be better than it is. What is going on, is like a turkey shoot. There is no armies fighting back, just guerillas getting the odd grenade lobby retaliation. If these truly were wars, weaponry and military vehicles would be getting destroyed daily, and need replacing, thus employment. That isn’t truly the case. Wars? No. These are two shams. Not real wars. Hell, we had a Delta Force soldier killed by a little kid with a grenade, who is now being tried for war crimes. There can’t be war crimes without Geneva Conventions. There aren’t any, therefore no war crimes. This total farce of a “war on terror” needs to stop and needs to stop yesterday. Left, right and center are now all using it as excuses for various reasons.
at school now, but I’m figuring that a conflagration w/ Iran would end that pretty quick.
How ya doing, CTut?
Very true jayt very true. Only when those who propose these Wars of convenience have to fight those Wars then and only then will these Wars of convenience end!@
Cornell, eh…? You’re right, I’m sure he’d be recalled to AD right quick…! 8-(
Could always do better, but, I’m surviving…! ;-)
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Why is Broder coming out with this now? Could it be because Israel is nervous about Prop 19 passing in Cali, and the trend spreads, and we all become peace loving and not giving a rats ass about fighting proxy wars for Israel anymore.
California, don’t fais us now!
A low-level army man in Afghanistan told his grandmother that everyone in the army is talking about war with Iran coming soon like it’s a foregone conclusion.
Broder is a one trick pony.
I have no idea why anyone pays the slightest attention to the old geezer.
Shill for the neo cons and concern troll at the same time. Rinse and repeat.
Him and BoBo both need to retire.
Bingo….My thought exactly; sociopathy, maybe/ Dementia, definitely. That means incapacity here. What a travesty.
No, he’s just pushing the Zionist’s agenda along… I am worried what will happen with a Repug House, and, the impending failure of the Peace Farce…! Bibi know’s our politics better than we do…! He’ll be New Orleans next Sunday, btw…! 8-(
That only happens if an incident probably staged happens after the election preferably a holiday weekend to avoid news coverage.
The post-Prop 19 world.
Villagers: We need to have bloodlust for more war!
the tribe: Woooah! Far out!
Brodernut:
Like Lucy urges Charlie Brown to kick the football. She promises to hold ‘er steady. As we know, Charlie Brown falls on his ass every time.
Obama has already gone full Monty with the MIC and what does he get for it? They call him a pussy, a socialist, a marxist, a Kenyan terrorist and Hitler.
The worst part is Obama believes it.
Oh, but when Broder puts others in harm’s way, that’s noble. When we put ourselves in harm’s way, like having the unmitigated temerity to challenge the keeper of the
Throne of HeavenBully Pulpit, why, that’s insane!This whole thread just goes to show how undeserving we are of our self-appointed nobility. Broder goes to the trouble of modeling the Emperor’s latest line of clothes, and here we are, cat-calling his public indecency.
I’m sure all good and proper Broderians think we should be on our knees, thanking TPTB for fulfilling their responsibility to protect us from ourselves.
Shorter Broder: Let’s have a war! Only those who want to
destroy Israelhurt America (and any chance of getting into heaven, you sorry-ass sinners) could disagree.while I agree, the network keeps showing George H.W., George W., Babs, and Laura.
makes me feel kind of dirty….
When all the talking heads start talking about war with Iran then its a done deal.
Has anyone been over to the WaPoo to see what the “comments” to this look like?
Or has he, like the Moustache of Wisdom over at the NYT turned the comments off? [Wise move, Friedman.]
Just being facetious. BUT… Prop 19 passing will be a game-changer. Reefer smoking and war-mongering are mutually exclusive entities. Should reefer become a Main Street commodity, rants like Broder’s will be falling on deaf ears.
…I wonder about this guy’s mental status.
I don’t.
How did that old saying go? What if they offered a war and no one showed up?
Reefer IS a main street commodity. Main street has been smoking regardless of the law for decades. I really don’t think more people will be able to indulge in pot cause they already are.
What a fan base:) Bwahahahaha! No wonder the Times is in trouble hack the entire MSM is loosing audience.
The article is so stupid and shockingly simplistic (hey, let’s start another war! Oh, wait, I’m kidding (wink, wink)) that if Broder didn’t have a reputation (totally undeserved in my opinion) of being the “dean” of the MSM, this wouldn’t past muster for even a right wing, teabag blog that hates the President.
And it’s badly written to boot. Hard to believe a “great” journalist would write something that wouldn’t pass a 6th grade grammar class.
The post-Prop 19 world.
Israel: “Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran!”
the tribe: “Awesome! Do it again, dood!”
Never mind 2 wars for Bush led to no job growth for 8 years a housing/banking crisis just imagine how much worse we would be with a third war.
True, but the current problem is that the people who SHOULD be smoking, aren’t. Detoxification of war-mongers, tea-baggers, racists, and corporate whores is urgently need. Mary Jane is the remedy of choice.
And it’s badly written to boot. Hard to believe a “great” journalist would write something that wouldn’t pass a 6th grade grammar class.
You actually read the whole thing?
Never occurred to me.
No. More people will smoke legal pot for sure. Employment-related piss tests (potential firings) prevent many from smoking weed. This will change if Prop 19 passes. The stigma problem will also dissipate.
Currently, in FL, a person busted with a small amount of MJ must go for rehab like a heroin addict. Labelled and outcast. It is risky to smoke weed.
twue.
The Dean seems to forget FDR put Americans to work making stuff that made our economy better roads, bridges, etc Fighting WW2 sent tanks and stuff to Europe but just how did that help our economy?
The Marshal Plan after the war to help rebuild Europe helped create customers for American goods but killing people did not create customers for American goods.
The Dean learned economics where?
That is another fatal error by the divine Broder.
You are right. I guess everyone isn’t self employed like me. Not that I smoke pot.
Now, where did I put those matches.
Florida has one county with more Oxy mills than McDonald’s but they hate weed?
David Broder is a walking, talking argument for term limits for pundits.
No, we like weed. It’s the gubmint, the old people and the police that hate weed.
Course, the cops probably smoke it, too. They just bust the rest of us because they’re dicks.
I’m an old person and I want it legalized. I plan to get a fancy pipe to go with my fancy cane.
Watch what you say about old peeps. I am an oldish person.
*heh* Maybe it could be mounted on your fancy cane…! ;-)
hmmm…. I’m getting a vague idea about those portable oxygen tanks that some people tote around.
Could be a growth market….
That’s exactly the problem. Question is, what is “it,” and how did he come to believe it?
Ray McGovern wrote a piece right after the election saying, psy ops aren’t just for ordinary folks.
Just WTF does he mean by that? Now that we know that no one on earth knows what our “intelligence” community is up to, just who TF is in charge here?
Ever since JFK, our presidents have been shocked and awed by whatever it is McGovern has seen happen. Whoever it is who controls that psy op controls the president. And I doubt there are any meaningful provisions against using it on Congress or the judiciary. (FWIW, I think it was innovated by the Republican side of the intel community, and the Dems have been playing catch up. Not by forswearing abhorrent methods, mind you, but by adopting them.)
That’s why I agree so much with fuckno, among others. Hoping to persuade Obama, and the Democratic ass he rode in on, to do the right thing for us, is a fool’s errand at this point.
At the national level, both parties are just fronts for the national security state puppet masters who are able to co-opt, if not shock and awe, our elected officials by whispering sexy secrets in their ears — even secrets about their own sex lives, at times. Ask Elliot Spitzer. Must be nice for TPTB, to be able to eavesdrop on any conversation. I’ll bet that makes for useful blackmail fodder. But I digress.
So both the Tea Partiers and Obamabots look to me like herds of gazelles trying to negotiate terms of a diet for crocodiles with the very same bloody-mouthed crocodiles who are eating them alive. Even if they win, we all lose.
Hey, I’m self-employed, too. Except for a part-time/on-call job, that is. Want to hear my four-point drug policy?
1) It’s nice to share.
2) No holding out.
3) No skanky weed.
4) No shitty beer.
Speaking of that, a light just went on my head today regarding the Yemeni mail bombs – how do we know that the FBI/CIA/etc didn’t instigate the bombs be sent?…It has come out with other cases how these people are told to do things – fake terror missions – what is to stop the Obama administration from getting third parties to send bombs in the mail or anything else and then have it be caught, but used as a casus belli to wage war or deprive us of our rights?
I’m old too.
I should have said old Republican, warmongering, selfish, bigoted, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, holier-than-thou, closeted-drunk, uneducated, incurious, ass-kissing, brow beating, dog kicking, leaves-his-engine- running-in-the-parking-lot, talking-on-the-cell-phone, chemical-spraying, get-off-my-lawn, residents of The Villages.
The elite are desperate, but the American empire is crumbling. Radical measures are required. We all know this. Capitalism is killing the earth, and with it its precious animals and wildlife. It is an evil ideology. We must understand this before it is too late. Mutual aid and decentralization are the answer.
A fascist like Broder is obviously shitting a brick. He knows the jig is up, man.
Broder like Friedman and Brooks is just going through the motions. He’s fat, tired, lazy and comfortable and he’s old. Broder is a fascist and he is content to serve up warmongering, supply-side dribble at his AIPAC masters’ beck and call.
I know what you mean. Now that we know what we know about what we didn’t know by design, how do we know what we know now is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the kind of thing on which we best base our actions? We don’t. So we’re more reliant than ever on the same kind of perps (aka “experts”) who jacked us to begin with. How nice.
Did you happen to see Richard Engle on TRMS on Friday? Hang on a sec, I’ll grab the transcript.
Just what we need, losing another war. What is it? Fourth time the charm?
Isn’t it ironic that the mastermind is a Saudi…! Just like 15 of the 19 of the 9/11 crew…! 8-(
Don’t leave out the Israelis, the Russians the Chinese or anyone else who would like to see us tripping over ourselves some more in the ME.
Every time I see a link to a David Broder opinion, I think, “What? He’s STILL working? Shouldn’t he be playing bingo and worrying about making it to the early bird hour at Luby’s instead of assaulting our eyes with more drivel?”
Yes, because $8/gal. unleaded always puts the punters in a spendy mood.
Sad to say, but Obama and his advisers listen this to fascists like Broder and the Mustache of Understanding. The dirty, urine soaked peasants who work 9-5 (ie us) are beyond the pale. Yet, we have always been right.
“I am not suggesting, of course, that the president incite a war to get reelected.”
No, that’s exactly what you are doing.
“Iran is the greatest threat to the world in the young century.”
No, that would more likely be the US.
This fucked up empire always needs an enemy. Sick shit, but a sign of desperation. Can’t feed our own people–but we can bomb poor brown people in other countries. Shameful.
Such moral degeneracy will take its toll. Instant karma, man. This is the way of the universe.
Sorry, they don’t have it up.
The story is titled: US, allies answer terror challenge
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/39919858#39919858
Yeah right, I thought. It’s a rah-rah piece that seems oblivious of US history, most notably our use of covert ops. Hell, we’ve got an entire “covert” drone war going on in Pakistan! But they never once question the gov’t narrative.
Obama is shown mentioning the fact of the attack. In a perfect non-sequitur, in that he makes no attempt to link the two, he then says we know of a group that calls itself al-Qaeda in that region.
Dutifully, Engel goes on to elaborate, but never question, the president’s version, as if the veteran embedded reporter has never heard of someone (whom the proper journalist is duty bound to suspect has something to hide) tossing out a red herring during a briefing.
Psy op, or not? Time will tell.
IMO, the better question is, how much longer before the national security state-within-a-state so bloody blatantly sacrifices the nation in order to “save” it that not even our best APA-approved and DOD-deployed psy ops can cover it up?
I honestly believe only the propaganda is propping up the gov’t at this point. The more we can pull back the curtain, the better.
Hey, maybe that notorious curtain is like a band aid. Better when ripped off quick and clean, right?
Obama made it clear during the campaign that he felt “all options were on the table” in dealing with the non-existent “threat” of Iran’s nuclear program, and firepups voted for him in droves.
So, whats the beef with Broder? Obama could saber-rattle his way into 2012, maybe concoct a pretext to attack, and then campaign as ‘Commander-in-Chief in a time of war’ and what, FDL front-page writers would call to vote for someone else or abstain? Not bloody likely is it? the dwindling (D) captured loyalists will vote for their team, no matter what! and that is why another unprovoked, immoral war might be beneficial politically!
The Times recently ran a piece about LMT’s wonder missile, and how it’s single-handedly cleaning up Kandahar. An obvious blowjob for the Pentagon, yet no one seems to mind. After all, they took in that other puffery about all the mineral wealth in Afghanistan a few months ago in the Times. Newspaper of record, glug glug.
Corruption of an order not seen since the nineteenth century is playing out in front of people every day.
The Greatest Generation and WWII are the new origin myth for the US. It has replaced the Founding Fathers of over 200 years ago. It is this year zero to which many point when referencing a supposed Edenic past. It is perhaps not surprising for one who identifies with the “original” generation that salvation might be found in repeating the act that birthed the “new” nation. In this article, Broder’s ideas for a fix reveal the point at which conservatism and fascism meet. “War is the health of the state.”
Good point about the conventional wisdom that WWII ended the Depression. This assertion is often used to deny FDR any credit for solving the economic problems of the time.
In a sense, WWII ended the Depression by ending unemployment: All of the working age males were in the military and therefore “employed”, and all of the women were working in factories. That does not mean that the Depression was over because conditions were still austere. Food was rationed, and automobiles and appliances were unavailable (because factories were making tanks and airplanes). Truman’s big worry in 1945-6 was how to get the discharged soldiers into jobs. Circumstances provided a solution: Fifteen years of austerity had created enormous pent-up demand for consumer goods, the factories were in place, and, I suppose, everyone had savings from four years of work or military service that they had been unable to spend during the war.
None of those circumstances apply now.
Yeah, it’s like some sort of sick word game with them.
No, not even that. I keep making the same mistake I’m on about. It’s not like a word game at all. It’s a blood sport using weaponized rhetoric for ammo.
Allow me to ask, o fellow fierce firedogs, how is Broder any different than a sniper? They both fire at target audiences from secure positions using high-powered weapons, with malicious intent to change the target audience’s behavior against their will, making career-advancing killings.
What’s the diff? Snipers like Broder get to claim way more kills when it comes time to negotiate a good mercenary’s pay.
Pentagon Pundits: New York Times Reporter David Barstow Wins Pulitzer Prize for Exposing Military’s Pro-War Propaganda Media Campaign
Don’t forget Grenada! Credit where credit is due!
Broder: “If we play this the right way in the media we could draw the Ents into it. That would have the Mullah’s peeing their pants for sure…Oh, dear, I think I’ve just peed in mine.”
Totally agree. The White House feeds off the fascism of the pundits. That’s why the media is our enemy, these amoral yellow journalists. And we know why they called them yellow–because the assholes never wanted to fight the wars they promoted in their miserable rags.
Teddy Partridge is upstairs!
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Not only is Broder’s advice evil, it’s stupid. The general disappointment with Obama among his own base would turn to outright hostility if he were to orchestrate “a showdown with the mullahs” – i.e. start another f’ing war – without real justification. Even with real justification, he’d most likely be sealing his fate as a one-term president if he were to take this country into another war.
Sure. The propagandists repeat the required memes and associated words over and over with attachments to known ultimate Good and ultimate Evil. Pretty soon other narratives or ways of thinking become increasingly difficult.
If you combine the work of the early propagandists (before propaganda was a dirty word) like Bernays, Lee, Goebbels, etc. with Burroughs, a fairly clear sniper or assassination program emerges.
Oh, and thanks for the link!
I don’t know. Barry Cocaine is pretty fucking tone deaf. All bets are off. If Oilbummer can get away with eviscerating Soc Sec–I’m sure he’ll get away with starting a war with Iran.
The jingo in Americans is endless and deep. Don’t underestimate the patriotism card.
I suppose if “orchestrated” just right, the flags and bumper stickers will come out. And yet I don’t see it working well for Obama and his chances for reelection…
Following the slime trail from Eliot Abrams leads one to stacks of human cruelty. Mr Death. Whereever he goes death follows.
You’re welcome, glad you liked it. And if you add the power of myth, as expounded by Campbell at none other than the State Dept’s Foreign Service Institute, beginning in 1956, you get a perfect storm of methods of manufacturing consent. The psycho-propagandists provided the “shock,” Campbell, knowingly or not, provided the “awe.”
In terms of weaponized rhetoric, let me put it this way:
Clear, Hold, and Build — it’s not just for the lands of our enemies du jour, it also applies to our psyches as well. In the war for American hearts and minds (we can dream on about being self-governed), it’s how we are given the opinions our MOTU only pretend to ask of us in “elections.”
For what it’s worth, I had a similar reaction. The idea of a prominent columnist suggesting a war for economic or political gain is bad enough. That he clearly doesn’t understand why WWII came out so well for America’s economy is almost as appalling.
David Broder knows nothing about economics or economic history. The US did not need WWII to end the Great Depression. We had very robust economic growth from mid-1933 till mid-1937 when there was a second dip that lasted a year. By the time Pearl Harbor was bombed, GDP was greater than ever, though unemployment was still abnormally high.
Wars destroy economies. Look at what WWII did the economies of Europe and Japan. The only reason why the US did well in the aftermath is that we were the only industrialized country with its infrastructure intact. We had no competition.
Broder is an Israel-centric sociopath.
Can we throw David Broder, Krystol, Cheney and all of the other endless war cheerleaders into a special squad sponsored by the retailer “Target”?
Give them flash lights, bright jackets with the company logo, and drop em behind enemy lines.
Broder is one sick puppy.
war spending is the worst form of stimulus spending due to its massive waste. Buying $800 hammers, $1000 toilet seats, etc. more than 90% of which is wasted in corruption payments does far less for economic stimulus than spurring production and acquisition of non-military equipment and systems.
He Even LOOKS like the Himmlerian Village chicken farmer; as the US Banality of EVIL!
And WE Are the greatest threat to the world in the young century!
Wars are especially disastrous for economies that have shifted from production to finance-based.