The final pre-election polls have all indicated a huge advantage to the GOP, and expectations of a Republican pickup of 50 seats or more in the House is commonplace. But it wasn’t so long ago that predictions were wildly off in a similarly odd election year, 1994.
Simply put, every prognosticator making a prediction in that election found themselves expecting a 25-seat gain for Republicans in the first midterm of Bill Clinton’s Presidency. In reality, the Republicans took 54 seats. The idea that wave elections are hard to measure would be the moral of the story.
But are they? We have arguably more sophisticated instrumentation these days – more polls, the ability to read local media from everywhere, more statistical analysis available. But I wonder whether the culmination of that is a group of pundit future-tellers who know a bit too much. As Nate Silver points out, it’s not entirely possible to predict the size of the Republican wave until we see some hard vote counts. There’s no doubt that the trend line for Democrats is sharply negative, without much resistance in the polling data. But it’s hard to see precisely how that translates. Could it be the difference between a House of Representatives with Democrats in charge and one with Republicans in charge? That’s not so likely. But Nate also noted today that the difference between polls with cell phones included and landline-only polls is about four points. That’s statistically significant – and could mean quite a bit on Election Day.
Does that suggest some kind of Democratic poll-defying triumph tomorrow? I don’t believe so. The losses were baked into the cake in 2009, particularly by the closely-watched process on the health care bill, which validated conservative claims and which happened while unemployment shot up. That was basically the moment Democrats lost touch with independents. But it does mean that there’s substantial pull one way or another in those numbers. And furthermore, the numbers might play on one side of that wave in one part of the country, and another side in another. For instance, California does not look particularly susceptible to the wave, but some Northeast states, in addition to the South, do.
I’m going to be spending tomorrow looking at individual House and Senate races, along with the all-important Attorney General contests, particularly in the Midwest.




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In the House, all that matters is if Republicans get 39 seats and take control. Over the weekend Michael Steele said he thought they had 38 seats locked up. If that’s true then a Republican takeover of the House seems inevitable.
In the Senate, the big issue is what happens in 2012. Then Democrats have 21 tough Seats to defend versus 10 relatively easier seats for Republicans. It’s hard to imagine a scensario where Dems can hold the Senate.
Wow, that is quite a big revelation. Nate and others had previously said that if the polls were systematically off by just 2%, the Democrats be predicted to retain the house. The majority of polls don’t even track cellphone only households (about 25% to 30% of the population!–quite a systemic error if you as me), so tomorrow may be A LOT closer than that polls have been leading us to believe. Or at least, i’m hoping it is.
FWIW, Early voting tending to suggest that there really wasn’t much of an enthusiasm advantage for Republicans.
I think the Senate polling is likely to be pretty accurate: Dems hold 52 seats +/- 1.
The House is hard to predict closely but my sense is Dems are going to lose less than the 50-60 seats most analysts are predicting. I think the Republican strategy of contesting virtually every seat is skewing the generic ballot toward Republicans. I also think some of the district-level polls are really poorly done.
Based on the latest Field poll, I’d be surprised if Prop 19 gets more than 46% of the vote.
Anyway, those were my guesses for the FDL Election Election Challenge. Be sure to play because it may be the only fun we’ll have tomorrow.
My state is about to elect the first Democratic governor in two decades, and he’s a genuinely progressive and populist one to boot. We just need to keep the Cons from pulling vote suppression stunts.
I took my land line out a year ago and have only a cell phone. There are a LOT of people like me, and if we’re not counted in surveys, they have to be inaccurate to some degree.
Somewhat O/T, but just in and VERY interestingas it pertains to voting and voting rights:
UK prisoners to be given the vote
British prisoners are to be given the vote for the first time in 140 years after David Cameron decided to throw in the towel on a long-running legal dispute with the European Court of Human Rights … [Published 1 hour ago by FT.com - UK News]
Great summary.
Remarkable news. If that trend spreads to our shores, with our high incarceration rate U.S. inmates could field their own major party.
Does that mean reefers will only be sold at 46% of full size?
Somehow, you make all this sounds as if it’s a “bad” thing?
CHECK OUT TODAY’S HEADLINE:
DOWN GO THE DEMOCRATS! DOWN GO THE DEMOCRATS!
If Prop 19 tanks, I propose this as the new official dress for Californians.
Nice dream but so unlikely. Reps would never go for it; Dems don’t want to “appear” to be soft on crime, wars, torture, rendition, wiretapping, taxes, public option healthcare, justice, etc., etc., etc.
“Fear itself” has won the day — the baggers on one side and the dem leadership on the other.
Prisoners in the U.S. are allowed to vote in VT & I think Maine. It was covered on democracynow this morning.
Short of giving prisoners the right to vote, those to have done their time should be given the right to vote. Under current law, aren’t those convicted of felonies barred for life from voting?
What scares the bejeezus out of me are the baggers and their fellow travelers.
Me too! And at least some of them are gonna get elected today.
How can they predict loses when they don’t even have polls for a lot of Congressional districts, like PA-06(which should elect a Democrat today .. hopefully .. finally)?
It’s important to find a safe haven in which to hunker down until the insanity passes, which inevitably it will one day.
Go Trivedi!
Sure — but aren’t you equally fearful of the democratic leadership that could have voted for the tax bill BEFORE they recessed and likely had it in the bag, but didn’t? (I could have inserted any number of issues here including HCR with a REAL public option, a larger stimulus at the beginning when Obama was riding the wave of popularity and hope, bucking the McChrystal hype and sending fewer troops to Afghanistan, a HAMP program that worked, etc.)
Were they waiting for a rep takeover (lame duck session) when it cannot possibly happen?
Dems have only proved that we are what we fear.
Fuck Gerlach!
I don’t think that is so. I think the size of the stimulus baked this cake.
Of course, by tomorrow everyone will have their own well polished narrative to explain this outcome. In the end, like every national election ever held in this constitutional republic, the economy will tell the tail.
All true what you say, but when I go out shopping for a junk car, I try to find the wreck that will require the least amount of work and money to get roadworthy. I apply that same principle to voting.
On this election day, I’d like to invite you to cast your vote in this unconventional referendum on our banking system.
The basic premise is that we should level the playing field, wipe the slate clean, forgive all debts, and let the entire banking system collapse.
It would be replaced with a new nonprofit banking system that is directly owned and democratically controlled by the citizen themselves, one person, one non-transferable vote.
Insured deposits at the commercial banks would be honored by this new citizen-owned bank, which would have the authority to create capital as required by society and agreed to by consensus.
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Siun’s post upstairs is what scares me. It appears that we’ve started a black ops war in Yemen (presumably at the behest of Saudi Arabia) and are now in the position of trying to imagine why the “Copier Bombs” are being sent over here (other than the usual “they hate us for our freedoms”).
The public is SHOCKED! Looks like the Pentagon — not so much.
I meant to add that the hags and baggers are a side show of clowns (don’t get me wrong, clowns at a rodeo are very important). But they’re still not the main event.
They represent a republican re-framing of the “issues” and the more energy we spend on them, the less energy and time there is to look at the big picture — the one where we’re going down the tubes head first.
So who stole the government? What makes some people feel more disenfranchised now than they were, say, during the presidency of George W. Bush?
After all, it was Bush who inherited a budget surplus and left behind a suffocating deficit—I’m not being tendentious, just stating the facts. It was Bush who launched two wars without making any provision in the budget to pay for them, who proposed and won an expensive new prescription-drug entitlement without paying for it, who bailed out irresponsible Wall Street firms with the $700 billion TARP program.
Bush was vilified by critics while he was in office, but not with the suggestion that somehow the government had been seized or usurped—that it had fallen into hands that were not those of “the American people.” Yet this is the tea party suggestion about Obama.
Underlying all the tea party’s issues and complaints, it appears to me, is the entirely legitimate issue of the relationship between the individual and the federal government. But why would this concern about oppressive, intrusive government become so acute now? Why didn’t, say, government surveillance of domestic phone calls and e-mails get the constitutional fundamentalists all worked up?
I have to wonder what it is about Obama that provokes and sustains all this tea party ire. I wonder how he can be seen as “elitist,” when he grew up in modest circumstances—his mother was on food stamps for a time—and paid for his fancy-pants education with student loans. I wonder how people who genuinely cherish the American dream can look at a man who lived that dream and feel no connection, no empathy.
I ask myself what’s so different about Obama, and the answer is pretty obvious: He’s black. For whatever reason, I think this makes some people unsettled, anxious, even suspicious—witness the willingness of so many to believe absurd conspiracy theories about Obama’s birthplace, his religion, and even his absent father’s supposed Svengali-like influence from the grave.
Obama has made mistakes that rightly cost him political support. But I can’t help believing that the tea party’s rise was partly due to circumstances beyond his control—that he’s different from other presidents, and that the difference is his race.
What kt2kelly said.
Pulling for Prop 19 to pass! Legalize it, don’t criticize it! Big Pharma wants you to die using their synthetic products. Weed is an elixir!
Well, this is only anecdotal so it doesn’t have much larger significance, but I found it interesting.
Over the weekend, we had a group of 30-somethings at our place for Hallowe’en, and not one of them has a land line. Not one of them had been polled; 1 is voting for Dino Rossi, 3 for Patty Murray, and 1 waverer. Whether the waverer will even vote is questionable.
I don’t know what will happen, but I think that if the GOP wins, its failure to deal with **process issues**: transparency, corrupt campaign contributions, will prove to be its undoing over the next few years.
And if the Dems win, the first thing that I think they need to address is the corrupt political process, starting with the filibuster and moving on to the election process and campaign finance.
The media like to use colorful words to explaing elections.
Did the GOP base grow over the last 20 months? No
The GOP base really got a lot smaller the last 20 months.
The Tea Party is a product created by madison ave, and promoted by FOX. What is the Tea Party agenda? Is the Tea Party agenda to make rich people richer?
An average Democratic President could have all but destroyed the GOP.
Obama the trojan horse and the corporate dems, brought the GOP back from the dead.
The last 20 months woke up a lot of intelligent americans who call themselves Dems and GOP, who realize that their govt is under the control of corporations.
Hopefully, the left and the right will start attacking their real enemies the big corporations.
I hope we all learned how fearful and upset the stock holders of Target got upset, by their CEO when he donated Target money to a GOP candidate.
Obama is black, and uber-zillionaires, like the Kochs, astro-turfed the Tea Party, and utilizing reliable reichwing mouthpieces like Beck & Limbaugh, got these credulous & already brainwashed racists to get their panties in a bunch about nothing “real.”
Everything you say is entirely accurate. These same exact Tea Partiers were very very very happy & pleased with W the dumber; had no issue with secret wiretapping (I had people say to me: if you have nothing to hide, then what’s the problem with that?), cheerled the wars, even when it was pointed out that there was no money to pay for them, and were easily & willingly misled to “blame” TARP on Obama. Heck, they tried to say 9/11 happened when Clinton was still POTUS, and the Tea Partiers clapped & cheered for that.
On KO last night I believe Howard Fineman actually made some astute comments (amazing) about peoples’ belief systems & how emotion feeds into beliefs. Fineman used this an explanation for why Tea Partiers NEVER change their minds even when they’ve been LIED to and are provided with irrefutable evidence of the lie.
Frankly, I think it boils down to: they’re racists & they’ve been brainwashed by toxic negativity for years. These people are suffering from a type of profound mental illness. And the billionaires laugh and laugh and laugh all the way to their off-shore accounts, where absolutley not one of them as any plans to “create jobs” in the USA.
Rubes and foolish foolish ignorant people. The ultimate in low-information voters.
PA-6 was polled October 18-20 by Monmouth U. and sorry to say the poll showed Trivedi behind 54-44.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/forecasts/house/pennsylvania/6
I think Trivedi is an excellent candidate — better than Roggio, Murphy, and Wofford — and I’m voting for him, but unfortunately it seems likely the despicable Gerlach will have his easiest victory yet.
Good analysis & agree. If the *thinking* members of our population, whether traditional Dem or Repub, could join forces… then we’d have something to go on.
I feel that most citizens, who are better informed (no matter which party they usually affiliate with), are throwing up their hands and saying: What? Who do I vote for? They’re all corrupt. They’re all on the corporate payola. And none of them are working for ME. And the T-Partiers are outright crazed facist nutjobs.
What to do, indeed.
On this election day, an interesting read -
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,726447,00.html
Freudian slip?
I think we knew this going in, no? This can’t be used as an excuse for what’s happened. Give me a break. Over 50 million folks voted for a senile angry old man and a barfly from Alaska, for christ’s sake.
What.Did.He.Expect?
I’ve come a long way baby in my circular journey to political disappointment. In 1972 I stayed up all night waiting for a McGovern miracle (everybody laugh here). Worked as an independent for Carter and became a Dem with the Reagan revolution. Today I voted and felt very despondent about the whole affair. I should care who wins but I really don’t. I just don’t see my vision for America from here. Will not watch the results. Peace everyone.
The narrative has been sold to us. We won’t question the GOP win even if it is due to stealing votes through electronic voting machines without paper trails. This has been a big scam this year with the polls, people have no idea that Democrats were leading in the polls of all voters or that the cell phone thing creates a sample that is weighted towards older more likely to be Republican voters.
Yes, obviously, you’re right. For them it’s because he’s black. For the rest of us it’s because he’s just another corporate political whore.
Just voted for him. It was actually a vote for a Dem I felt pretty good about. The problem is this district is so drawn up for Republican victory that I see Gerlach winning again.
He seems locked in there these days.
This is exactly why the Tea Party started! Conservatives could not stand Bush. To them, he was just another Democrat and hence the term RINO (Republican In Name Only). Too many so-called Republican policy makers were actually just wishy-washy middle-of-the-roaders (or even left of the middle like Bush). The Tea Party came to being because Heartland America wanted a party that represents their true American Constitutional values.