It’s pretty interesting that, while today’s elections are important, many consequential events will happen in the month or so after the elections. Tomorrow, we’ll see the extent of the Federal Reserve’s quantitative easing plan. The Pentagon study on Don’t Ask Don’t Tell comes out December 1, which could affect that policy. There’s a lame duck session with a host of important issues, like the Bush tax cuts, on the docket. The 50-state AG investigation of foreclosure fraud could move toward a decision. And the cat food commission will meet shortly after the elections, trying to satisfy a December 1 deadline for recommendations. The New York Times story reveals that the commission has deliberately said almost nothing in public about their plans, and that the commission has all major budget pieces “on the table”:
Amid that partisan backdrop, people in both parties say they have been surprised that the 18-member National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform reached an early consensus to put all three major budget parts on the table: taxes, annual spending for domestic and military programs, and the entitlement benefit programs Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
Still, given Republicans’ opposition to tax increases and Democrats’ to changes in benefits, expectations are low that any plan can get the 14-vote supermajority required to send it to Congress for a vote in December. Advocates’ best hope seems to be that the co-chairmen — Erskine B. Bowles, president of the University of North Carolina system and a former chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, and Alan K. Simpson, a former Senate Republican leader from Wyoming — can negotiate a package that attracts a sizable minority of the 10 Democrats and 8 Republicans and provides a framework for future bipartisan action.
“We’re going to put a very serious proposal out there that lots of people will find areas to pick at,” Mr. Bowles said. “But in total it will address this deficit problem that we face, and will lay a predicate out there for what the country has to do to get its fiscal house in order.”
The goalposts moving to “sizable minority” is actually pretty good for the prospects of the commission, if like me you think it’s stacked with deficit scolds tilted toward taking away cherished benefits than tax fairness.
Nevertheless, there is some lip service paid to cutting tax expenditures, the tax breaks that politicians hand out like free bread before a restaurant meal. Tom Coburn snipes at the tax break for corn ethanol, as if any lawmaker with dreams of the Iowa caucuses would dare touch that. In addition, Jackie Calmes mentions four tax expenditures (mortgage interest deduction, state and local tax deduction, charitable giving deduction and the employer health insurance deduction) that similarly have no shot of changing. The President put capping the charitable deduction on the table during the health care debate, and his own party made minced meat of it.
There’s similar lip service toward military spending cuts, and again that is something I’ll believe when I see.
Alice Rivlin then says that Medicare and Medicaid won’t get touched because there’s “health care fatigue,” meaning the only entitlement programs where you can credibly claim an actual long-run deficit issue won’t get mentioned by the deficit commission. Leaving us with Social Security, the “building block” for hand-shaking between elites to cut your retirement benefits.
While Mr. Bowles and Mr. Simpson will propose health policy changes for the commission’s deliberations, Social Security is getting more of the members’ attention. Republicans are more inclined to scale back future retirees’ benefits than are Democrats, especially since liberal groups have mobilized in opposition. Especially controversial is the idea of raising the retirement age for full benefits; currently it is being increased gradually to 67 under a 1983 law.
Other options include less generous formulas for both initial benefits and annual cost-of-living increases for retirees in future decades. Democrats say any compromise to assure Social Security’s solvency for the next 75 years would have to include increased payroll tax revenues as well as changes in benefits. The likeliest revenue option would raise the cap on wages subject to payroll taxes, now $106,800.
As Dean Baker says, these are major issues that should be decided in elections, not outsourced to a panel that studiously avoids any public scrutiny. In addition, as you see above, there’s some mention of “less generous formulas for initial benefits.” In other words, your grandmother or aunt or current retiree may see cuts to their Social Security check, immediately. It’s a bit unclear, but that appears to be the meaning.
The next two months should be unusually packed with important policy decisions, in a way more so than the following two years.



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Barry will be politically neutered today.
Correct. We just have to worry about him “officially” joining the other side.
Tweaking healthcare might be a new twist, but cutting benefits is mr. simpson’s Christmas gift he mentioned to the kindly NOW person.
How would that make things any worse?
are MERKINS going to accept this quietly???
What do you mean “the other side”? !!! He’s about to win control of the House for the first time in his presidency.
Rahm cut him down to his size,and Obie let him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9AsA0cY8qg
Obie you exhaled
well, of course. When serfdom is fully reinstated, we’ll all get a little cottage in the country where we can keep a cow and maybe some chickens and grow some veggies… If y’all know how to grow potatoes in sand, be sure to let me know.
There is a cold wind blowing up everyone’s merkin today.
If he did switch parties, it would open the field for the ’12 race. That could be a good thing.
Looks like a bunch of (mostly) rich white old men still calling the shots. I knew one of those one time who said, “Can you imagine anyone taking SocSec?” Of course he had 2 homes in posh locations…..knew alot about those things, I guess/s
That’s an interesting way to look at it.
If they raise the cap on wages and salaries subject to the payroll tax and it is not indexed to inflation, that amounts to lip service too. Over time, more and more upper middle income folks get their payroll taxes capped while everyone else has to pay the full load. It is fundamentally a regressive tax anyway.
Too bad this could not have had the debate it needed before the election. But that was their plan, right?
It’s a cleaner way of getting rid of him than with a bloody primary fight.
So, I wonder how those cowards who will get voted out today, because they are cowards, will actually vote during the lameduck session. Think they’ll suddenly get brave or change parties and try to get re-elected down the line as Repubs? What a bunch of losers.
Well, fine. If you like clean. *g*
It’s going to be a long day. I was the First to vote in my precinct this morning. I’m going to have to go find some things to do. Be well.
Oh, I think things can a lot worse. So much so that Ds will be calling for this guy’s impeachment.
I know I’m wiggin’
I blame Pelosi “It’s not on the table” and Reid (super chickenshit ineffectual zero) going way back.
Obama will blame Jon Stewart again for not having his rally two years ago, and all progressive whiners.
I think it’s a fantastic way to look at it. Unfortunately for us, he’ll never do it. He’d disenfranchise his biggest area of support, African American voters.
Pointless conjecture. Ain’t gonna happen.
In 2000 Republicans were crowing about having achieved a permanent majority. Two years ago it was common to hear people talk about Republicans having alienated every voter demographic except old white folks, ensuring a permanent Democratic majority.
Shortest permanent majority ever.
Of course since neither party cares enough to govern worth a shit the pendulum will soon swing back to the Dems. Yippee.
wiggin? I <3 you.
Oh, not me. Not wiggin’. I’ve already been righteously yelled at online this morning.
But, the polls here don’t close until 8 and CA doesn’t start counting until then. I can’t set myself up for that many hours of wigging. Like I said, I gotta go find something to do. Paint the outside of the house?
Barry’s legacy.
All I said was it was an interesting way to look at it.
My house needs painting.
Here’s a good cold weather merkin.
linky no work X~o
That link doesn’t work for me :)
I can do inside painting. Not so sure about outside. :) Got spray paint? Oh, there’s yard work. Gonna make a big old macaroni and cheese from scratch for dinner, later. A book. I could do my nails. I can always find something to do. And, then there’s always prayer. Ha.
Thanks for earlier, btw. Hugs.
The catfood commission and the imminent cuts to SS to pay for billionaire tax cuts are the primary reasons I will be leaving shortly to vote for local races but to undervote all the national races. I will NOT vote for any House or Senate candidates today. I will not enable Democratic corporate sellout whores with my vote today.
Along the same lines the first paragraph of this piece by Micheal Lind in Salon sums up nicely why I quit the Democratic party a few months ago:
I WILL NOT ENABLE THE CORPORATE SELLOUT WHORES ANYMORE.
Period. Full stop.
sadly, yes. Da sheeple will continue to be good for the oligarchs, voting exactly how they are told to vote/think from the MSM and advertising moguls.
Face it, the oligarchs are winning because the man in the street is an idiot who does not watch/read or listen to any news. However, you get a TV show like Dancing with thye Stars and you get millions of call in votes. We have become a cleb obsessed society with failing infastructure because our pols are also totally obsessed with getting reelected rather than doing the haaard things necessary to get the country repaired. At the same time the rethugs scream for tax cuts, yet continue to spend like drunken sailors-China OTOH, is more than willing to keep loaning us money, they plan(according to a story I watched on KBS-Korean, I speak that language along with a few others)to keep loaning us money, then calling back all the loans in 2030 driving the US into 3rd world status. They plan very long term, they think in decades rather than days/weeks like we do and they plan to be #1 in the world without having to go to war.
I blame our education system. With 30% of kids dropping out of HS every year and those who do graduate being totally ignorant of not only the world but also how the US govt works we are raising generations of ignorant sheeple.
What ever happend to history classes? Geography? Govt? Civics? We are raising generations of idiots who have no desire to participate in govt-In our last local election, with over 1 million registered voters, only 2% bothered to go to the polls. Which resulted in some really strange things happening at the local and state level. The rethugs have been getting themselves elected to school boards, makeing sure that kids are “educated” the way they want them to be.
Every progressive law enacted since the 1920s is under seige. Everything from food safty to clean air/water to animinal extinction to global warming to medicare to Social Security. The rethugs want to get rid of every single one of these. Meanwhile both parties are giving the mega corps welfare by the hundreds of billions but say that SS and medicare are broke and should be abolished.
I have heard many people talking over the last few months and some are coming around to my POV which is that if you sit on your hands today you are the ones responsible for everything that happens over the next 2 years. I hope that makes you happy, arseholes.
Maybe answer your alluvial fan mail? :)
We could have lunch! It’ll be sweet. The cafe our office today is service… wait, lemme get the menu.
Balsamic marinated tri-tip with oven roast potatos and fresh vegetables.
Anybody else just LOVE that Polar Bear hugging the guy who drives an electric car commercial? See? It’s not All Bad.
Please write in Brian Wilson’s Beard on all races where you choose not to vote R or D.
Sorry about that. Site said it didn’t support remote linking but the image loaded for me in a second so I hoped it would work.
Since it was a stupid joke and not worth digging up an alternative I’ll just tell you it was a cowboy in wooly chaps.
Hee hee hee. My email’s full of campaign crap. But, the wind’s died down a bit, so maybe I’ll take a walk and wave at the alluvial. And the arroyos. So beautiful.
For some reason, I thought you’re up Northern. I’m nearish LA. I’d love to lunch with you, tho. Mom would approve.
Sounds like a good idea. It’s a little chilly here but still a beautiful autumn day. Think I’ll get out for awhile. See ya later. :)
good to know that you will be one of those arrogent arseholes-just like in Fl in 2000 when people like you voted for Nader,. which gave bush the victory-that will be to blame for whatever happens over the next few years.
=edited by mod= each and every one of you. You would rather see the entire country go to hell-exactly like the rethugs over the last 2 years-than do anything constructive to try and force the dems to fix it.
=edited by mod=
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Did you say something?
But Going INTO Today’s election, remember DEM Obummer COMMISSIONED this Crapfood Cafeteria and Its Commissars!
Ten years later you’re still blaming Nader voters for all of Bush’s transgressions while simultaneously accusing others of not doing anything constructive? I won’t bother to tell you why you’re wrong, since you must be impervious to reason.
Get over yourself.
Yikes. Poor mods, today.
I am northern. shoot.
To put it flatly, you don’t understand history, democracy, the law or civil society. That is all.
Reuters reports that on this, the day of the election, Obama is busy working on a “free-trade” scheme to offshore jobs to Korea.
Politico is reporting that Obama will take Chamber of Commerce money to sell his free-trade deal, and the Chamber is overjoyed that they’ll be partnering with the president on an issue that fill fracture his base.
Damned edit!
Amazing what Obama is able to get away with as a “Democrat”. If Bush had a Catfood Commission the DC Democrats would be screaming bloody murder.
wow, Barack Hoover-Bush Obama just became Barack Hoover-Nero-Bush Obama (the bit with the string instrument and a burning city). He’s not deluded. He’s a freakin’ psycho.
I thought my two Siamese cats were a wrecking crew. They could take lessons from Obama.
You can check out the Social Security Administration’s phenomenally detailed wage income statistics (2009 data). Census Bureau income data gets no more specific than quintiles, and the top quintile is around $100,000. SSA breaks down income rather more specifically, even listing the number of taxpayers who made over $50 million a year in wage income (74).
h/t David Cay Johnston
If Social Security taxes were uncapped, as Medicare taxes were in 1993, it’d raise at least $205 billion a year. That’s earned income (wages), not unearned income (capital gains, interest, etc). Beginning in 2013, unearned income above a $200k/$250k (singles, couples) threshold will also be subject to a 3.8% Medicare tax, raising an estimated $30 billion a year. If a 12.4% Social Security tax were added (at $8 billion a point), the unearned income FICA would raise another $100 billion annually.
Don’t forget that those wage caps help pay for the bonus of all those hard working 1 percenters. You know the ones that do all the hard work in Merica.
ooh, Siamese – can get very scratchy.
I’m with you, McMia. I am done with these creeps. They do not deserve my support. The days has now come that I cannot call myself both a Progressive and a Democrat. So I’m dropping the ‘Democrat’ part.
Interesting, indeed. Either Obama has to decide to spend more time with his family and declares he will not run again in 2012 — or he needs to switch parties and run in the Repub primary.
If he’s simplty primaried, many black voters will be angry and very hurt. And the Repubs will play that for all it’s worth. This would mean a very severely weakened party. And possible demise.
Time to get a prog/lib party going….