You may have seen the statistic going around that 47% of Blue Dogs got returned to Congress last night, while 96% of the Progressive Caucus returned. That isn’t a completely fair statistic. For the most part, those progressives are in safer districts. For the ones in less safe districts, they had big problems last night: Alan Grayson, Phil Hare and John Hall got beat. (Grayson should find another seat in Florida and move there). And for the most part, your ideology didn’t matter so much as the D next to your name. Everyone got beat.
But those are just the numbers of candidates who lost. What about the ones who won? Democrats picked up three seats from Republicans, making good on some prior anomalies and realigning correctly. Colleen Hanabusa (HI-01), Cedric Richmond (LA-02) and John Carney (DE-AL) all won. Of those, I would say Hanabusa and Richmond will join the Progressive Caucus. In AL-07, Terri Sewell replaced Artur Davis. She’s a lot more progressive than he ever was, and she will likely join the caucus. David Cicilline (RI-01), the replacement for Patrick Kennedy and another openly gay member of Congress, is likely to join (Patrick Kennedy never did). The race that a progressive lost in a primary, Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (MI-13), was over ethical issues, and she’ll be replaced by Hansen Clarke, likely to join the caucus.
What’s likely, then, is an increase in the ranks of the Progressive Caucus numbers. Even if they opened the floodgates on the Blue Dog Caucus, which they limit, they won’t increase their numbers.
Also note that the only Democrat endorsed by the Tea Party Express, Walt Minnick, who used the endorsement to engage in basically racist tactics, lost too. The tea party imprimatur didn’t matter.
A better gauge of all this is how Blue Dog tactics undermine Democrats everywhere. They destroy the Democratic brand and give the impression that Democrats either stand for nothing or deserve scorn. They hurt progressives, moderates and even the Blue Dogs in their own caucus who align with them for various reasons but don’t hurt the party in any major way. A better road would be to stop neglecting the base and lavishing attention on people who are ashamed of you.
What has happened has happened. I’m less interested in talking about the ways the administration screwed up, than in what they’re going to do about it in preparation of 2012. First thing’s first — stop bashing the base, or the professional left, or whatever liberal boogeymen pisses them off. Fact is, people who fall in those disaffected categories — the young, blacks, Latinos — don’t read blogs, or watch Keith Olbermann, or read Firedoglake. But they are losing their jobs and their homes, and they see Wall Street get all manners of bailouts without any of it trickling down to them. That has killed us. Make their lives better, or (since nothing will happen with Boehner in the House) at least fight to make their lives better.
This isn’t about throwing a bone to the base to make them happy, it’s about doing the right thing for America — fight for jobs, fight for opportunity, fight for equality under the law. Democrats believe that government can make people’s lives better, so embrace and fight for that belief. If Democrats are in it to protect Goldman Sachs, they might as well flip to the other team.
Markos calls for the firing of Tim Kaine in that rant. I can’t see how this would hurt.
I think we need Results Democrats willing to put people first. That about sums it up. Those types of people are far more likely to join a progressive caucus than a Blue Dog coalition.




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“I think we need Results Democrats willing to put people first.”
YAH THINK???
You’ll have to excuse me, I’m just a crabby old FORMER Democrat.
They might also try not pissing off women. I understand the gender gap this go around was huge. It does help to remember that women make up the biggest demographic group at 51% and the most long-term loyal Democratic voters. (I only mention women because I know Kos won’t.)
Sure, it sounds great to think the Progressive Caucus gaining some new members. But, of what use were the PC when we needed them! They just gave in, after promising to stand firm. Whatever ‘the bi-partisaner’ wanted, he got.
They’ve been so effective since 2006, I can hardly wait to see them inaction next year.
You’re suggesting that Alan Grayson try to sell his house and move to another district and buy a house with a clouded title? Which district did you have in mind?
Meanwhile, the Dem “leadershio” has learned what, exactly?
Harry Reid: Election results show Americans want bipartisanship LINK.
Obama signals he may allow rich to keep tax cuts, kill chance of climate bill LINK.
Grijalva won. That’s something for liberals to cheer about. I also think OFA and the unions deserve creedit for pulling out the Bennet win. Then again if they hadn’t backed Bennet in the first place Romanoff would have won even bigger.
I disagree with Markos that trying to make things better is good enough. Pelosi passed 300 bills which went nowhere, and look what happened.
I don’t know what to do. I think the bad decisions have been made and the jello is already set for a Republican takeover in 2012.
I hope you received Jim Dean’s letter from DFA. Here are two good quotes from it:
“The fact is progressive heroes who lost last night like Russ Feingold and Alan Grayson became collateral damage in a toxic election environment created by weak leadership and corporate Democrats who refused to stand up and fight for real change.
. . .
“The biggest lesson from last night is actually pretty simple. For Democrats to win in the future, they need to fight for the people they represent and stop cutting deals to water down reform with the same corporate interests who will turn around and spend unlimited amounts of money to defeat Democrats year after year.”
LINK.
What are Results Democrats? If they’re Democrats who will be effective at passing the kind of legislation we want to have passed, then I agree. To me, those are people who have a track record of pushing and voting for progressive legislation. Anyone who looked closely at Barack Obama’s record would have realized he wasn’t one of those.
The worst thing the Blue Dog approach, and also the New Democrat approach, is to give legitimacy to GOP claims that Democrats are too far to the left.
The progressive caucus today would be considered centrist in the 1960s.
And by providing that legitimacy to attack the D label, they sealed their own fate.
I am glad you mentioned craven racist Minnick tactics in Idaho. “Raw – Uul La-bra-dor helped illegal immigrants”. The TV ad Minnick ran was over the top.
Not that young, but Latino Read KO and the Lake:) I don’t think I’m the only one here.
It strikes me that when the Republicans have staged their congressional takeovers they haven’t found it necessary to take any progressives on board, or even moderates for that matter. They don’t have any problem getting conservatives elected when the political winds are blowing in their direction. Yet when the Republicans screw up and the Democrats get their opening they wind up with sizable numbers of right of center yokels. The country has its deep blue progressive ghettos in the northeast and the west coast and a few industrial cities in the center. The people who hold those seats remain in congress but it really doesn’t mean much which party is in power. Something is seriously wrong with this picture.
Best thing for progressive to do right now is go populist and STEAL Tea Party thunder. Every chance point out how Tea Party has been corrupted by Republicans and billionaire Wall St money.
Then have progressive go hard against Wall St bailout, and ineffective stupid governance (i.e. Republicans) – if it makes Obama look bad, then so be it. Obama made a deal with the devil and all the Democrats paid a high price for it last night. Time for the progressive to say enough. We lost Alan Grayson last night, and the way to make up for it, is to have all the progressives take over for Alan. Tell the American people the truth about how they’re being screwed and let the chips fall where they fall.
The progressives backed Obama for the last two years, now it’s time for the progressive to tell Obama how it is and let him deal with it.
Righto. My Q is how many members of the ‘progressive’ caucus went straight into the veal pen after O was elected.
The Progressives need to start bucking Obama why he can’t help them and running against him to the Left will get headlines.
The GOP wants to cut spending fine Dems should insist that all states pay at least what they get back from the federal government in taxes.
If they don’t their federal funding will be cut.
Just keep repeating that every sound bite on tv. Lets destroy their economies lets call them Welfare Queens:) Lets point out that Rural Real America is such a hell kids leave and go to the evil city.
Do remember Dr. Dean’s 50 State Strategy and the strength of that approach. And what reward did Dr. Dean receive? Banished from the ruling realm, the “leaders” of which then proceeded on to make a strong right turn. And look what we got. Was it a bug or a feature? Given what Reid and Obama have said (see links @ 6), I have to wonder.
The last laugh this election season certainly proved his critics wrong.
Yeah, what a rant. This is the same Markos who was out to punish any progressives who dared go against the presidents sleazy deals with the insurance and pharmaceutical lobbies.
That would fall into my category of too-little-too-late, perhaps the category I have the most contempt for in all of human life. In thinking about why I find them so detestable, is that people who make that mistake tend to make it repeatedly, meaning they are always trying to get onto the winning side after the fact.
Exactly. A principled stand is the same one, all the time.
The one bright spot possible here is that new members might learn the above lesson – stick to principle and you win. See, for example, Rick Lazio in Oregon.
Without the blue dogs who lost, perhaps they will be under less pressure than the former prog caucus was in the last 2 years.
Hey, I’m trying to look on the bright side, here. It’s hard, but I’m trying.
I have no trouble with people genuinely changing their minds if they have a legit reason. As Keynes is alleged to have said: When I find I’m wrong I change my mind. What do you do?
It’s the opportunists who are the problem.
Agree. Fuck Markos and his little attack of the vapors. Nobody pays attention to that lapdog or his site. Dems got those bobbleheads in their pocket, why would they bother about their particular noises?
lol.
And the pure shamelessness of it all…I’m sure there are people over there now pointing this out only to be greeted with a shrill chorus of, “we have to work together now, man, that was the past!”
Too bad our president is a blue dog.
Apparently he was “blacklisted” from MSNBC last summer for bashing Olbermann, who was apparently too hard on Obama. What an overall joke; a chihuahua clusterfuck of yapping proportions.
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Not a terrible thing, but If Democrats want to get anything done, they will have to compromise, for more news and commentary, check out http://thebondproject.blogspot.com/
As to the Kilpatrick – Hansen Clarke race: While Congress person Kilpatrick’s son has been ousted and jailed for various and sundry atrocities while Mayor of Detroit, the Congress Person was never involved in this or any other scandal that I know of. Rather, Hansen Clarke has earned the trust and respect of his constituents as a State Representative, and then as a State Senator, but had to leave due to term limits. To write off this election as a response to scandal is to do all of us here in Detroit a great disservice. Mr. Clarke is refreshingly responsible to all of his constiuents, advocating for the broad interests of this community.
Sounds like Markos is acting up in the veal pen. Not that does any good.
Oh sure NOW they can say anything they want since they don’t have to actually do squat. Beware though of all this posturing by the defeated Dims. The President on the other hand will now IMO do the bidding of the Gopers and continue to blame his own base for losing Congress.
John Hall got beat because he turned his back onthe progressives who worked their asses off to get him elected, so they gave up on him and did not continue to help him.
Obama should learn from that
It would have been better if Sharon A. had removed this horses ass. He will now tack right along with Obama and wreck what is left of the Dims. for a generation. Next up cutting SSI and Medicare, while giving the rich tax breaks forever. These men are fools.
Every one of these “Progressive” (socialist) Caucus members need to be retired to the Villages where they can play golf free for the rest of their lives. They are the traitors from within.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.”
Cicero Marcus Tullius
106-43 BC
I think you might have the wrong website. Many of the people who post here are progressives and support progressive candidates and incumbents.
The traitors to this nation are the ones who put the welfare their corporate benefactors and their own pocketbooks ahead of the interests of the people they were elected to represent.
Wow. Sceery sceery words from some dead greek.
You should check out what Australopithecus had to say. Or gesture. Grunt?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australopithecus
Thank you, deandelion! There was another post here in recent days in which women were mentioned briefly, but in the summarizing sentence were left out completely.
What does it take for us to get a little R E S P E C T?
I completely agree w/your post. President Obama and sell out Democrats, you all gotta get an identify check, and ACT for the betterment of the PEOPLE, and not your backstabbers who benefited from federal bailout, banks, Wall St, corporations, etc.
President Obama get to it, FIGHT and show GRIT.
Saludos from L.A.
PS. Latina who reads blogs