Keith Olbermann, the host of MSNBC’s top-rated show Countdown, has been suspended indefinitely for making three maxed-out donations to Democrats during the 2010 cycle.
Olbermann has admitted that he gave $2,400, the maximum individual donation, to KY-Sen candidate Jack Conway, and Reps. Raul Grijalva (AZ-07) and Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-08). Conway ended up losing to Rand Paul; Grijalva won his unexpectedly tight race, and Giffords looks to be holding on, though the race has not been called. Olbermann said in a statement, “I did not privately or publicly encourage anyone else to donate to these campaigns, nor to any others in this election or any previous ones, nor have I previously donated to any political campaign at any level.”
NBC News has an ethics policy in place that bars its personnel from making political contributions without the approval of Steve Capus, the president of the news division. “Anyone working for NBC News who takes part in civic or other outside activities may find that these activities jeopardize his or her standing as an impartial journalist because they may create the appearance of a conflict of interest.”
However, this policy doesn’t look to have been broadly applied. Atrios finds a number of contributions to Republican candidates made by Pat Buchanan, who is a paid political analyst for MSNBC. They have a right to make such a policy, but it ought to be carried out on anyone who violates it.
For his part, as recently as 2008, Olbermann explained that he doesn’t vote as a symbolic gesture to maintain his objectivity as a journalist. He elaborated on this to Portfolio Magazine, saying, “I know it’s very idiosyncratic, but I would feel just a little hesitation, just a little drag on the airflow, if I went to criticize somebody, especially a president, for whom I had voted. It is driven by the same thing that used to make me keep my distance from the athletes I covered. I don’t want anything, even that tiny bit of symbolic connection, to stand in between me and my responsibility to be analytical and critical.”
Obviously that refrain from political participation has ended. And Olbermann both had recipients of his contribution like Grijalva on the show, as well as criticizing opponents like Rand Paul, this year.
Allow me to disclose: I’ve given to Democratic candidates like Alan Grayson, Russ Feingold and Barbara Boxer this cycle. We don’t have any policy barring that here. And I don’t think it has any bearing on my coverage.
The suspension for Olbermann is indefinite in length.
UPDATE: Joe Scarborough admitted to contributing to a Republican House candidate in Oregon in 2007. A spokesperson for NBC played this off by saying “Joe hosts an opinion program and is not a news reporter.”




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Perhaps some jail time is appropriate.
Gosh, the whole FOX network is involved in political campaigns, selecting candidates, contributing to them, and pumping millions into the GOP.
Makes one wonder about divergent standards.
Faux news has NO standards, that’s the difference.
contact MSNBC your comments
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339
I guess they’re just clearing the decks before the Comcast buyout is finished by the end of the year. Soon we’ll be watching foodie programs on MSNBC.
Scarborough had anything to do with my beloved state-BLEECH. Vomit. Was probably Gordon Smith and his peas. HE LOST. HA.
This has me so angry and I don’t even watch Olbermann anymore but for the passing fancy, however, he was all that kept me from suicide during the Bush nightmare. The wee voice in the dark.
As usual the fucking warmongers that own the network have a history of slapping Ed Shultz, or Donahue or even Mr. Daily Kos. But the Republicans-NEVER FAIR GAME.
Maybe they will give Cenk Uygur the spot?
Translation: “We weren’t looking for an excuse to fire Scarborough like we were Olbermann”.
It was a guy named Derrick Kitts. he didn’t win.
As I understand it, MSNBC president Phil Griffin made this stupid decision. I emailed him the following (phil.griffin@nbcuni.com):
Are you telling me you’re still going to watch MSNBC after this???
I don’t think Phil Griffin would survive in jail.
I included the reference to Comedy Central in my email because I think that Jon Stewart’s unfair criticism might have something do to with it.
You were much nicer than I was:
I like Cenk, but I won’t watch MSNBC for at least one full year out of protest. By that time, I’ll probably not return to MSNBC at all.
Hey, I used the same picture!
I just can’t get excited about what happens to anyone on corp media. Olbermann had his moments but I can certainly live without him. All the more reason why, as soon as I can go thru the 12 steps to get over my addiction to L&Os & CSIs, I can get rid of my TV.
Yeah, this is clearly about MSNBC’s election night coverage. I imagine Tom Brokaw and the NBC News crowd were mortified by the association with that train wreck. Olbermann, Matthews, Maddow, and O’Donnell can’t be allowed to cover news events without a grown-up in the room.
I have no doubt they’ll find an excuse to punish Maddow soon.
Ouch. You were harsh. It was justified!
How shocking, you mean to say that Olbermann is a Democrat?
great letter!
Corporate fascists moving to consolidate power. Not enough teabaggers won Tuesday, so their plans suffered a minor setback. There will be no pause in the thundering propaganda machine between election cycles, the next election is already under way. There will be no need to paint a pretty face on the thuggery any more.
I agree! Law & Order is one of the few remaining reasons to continue owning a TV.
A spokesperson for NBC played this off by saying “Joe hosts an opinion
WTF?
The morning Joe show is advertised AS NEWS. Their ads said something along the lines of “wake up for the news with Joe in the mornings” or something IIRC.
And Olberman’s show is NOT opinion?
My gawd, how stupid do you have to be to believe we’re that stupid?
Talk about bullshit, this is Grade A.
who is going to fill in for Keith
Cenk? Dylan? Howard Dean? who
Netflix is your halfway house. Delayed gratification but you can watch entire seasons at once.
LOL, BIG L&O fan myself.
Also now finding I like NCIS a lot. :)
Yep. I’m done with them for good if this stands. The only power we have is the ability to decide where and whith whom we conduct commerce and if we tune in to watch Cenk after Olbermann got treated like sh*t, we deserve to be treated like expendable customers as well.
Are you really going to tune in to find out? You were just treated like you had the intelligence of an untrainable dog and you’re still going to watch anything on that network?
I don’t care. MSNBC is dead to me. Not for Keith. For the principle that small and very petty assholes like Phil Griffin should not be in charge of anything.
Keith Olbermann’s show is opinion. I think everyone has missed that point.
Tonight it will be Chris Hayes, according to TPM.
EXACTLY! It’s not about Keith, it’s about some tinpot dictator who is nothing more than a big turd in a little bowl treating us like we’re stupid.
“(Scarborough’s) in an opinion show” indeed!
I just sent a short email, suggesting that they may have to deal with a boycott, due to this decision, and also… what about worshipping the almighty dollar?
Opinion, yes.
But did he ever use his show to tell others to contribute money to candidates? No.
He did use his show to help raise money for free clinics.
Jon Stewart criticized CNN for not taking a stand on anything. And they he compares MSNBC to Faux News because, well, MSNBC has commentators who take a stand. Stewart needs to think more carefully about how he spins certain things.
“Joe hosts an opinion program and is not a news reporter.”
Joe presents what he says as if it was fact and indeed news. NBC is showing its corporate colors. And Joe is still the fellow with the dead body in his locked office (followed by divorce and ending his running for office) that was cremated before the police could get a local – rather than out of state – medical examiner to check out the body.
Jon Stewart is connected with big money too. He has his own agenda and this might just be part of it.
So you went ahead and sugar-coated it for him, then? heh
He’s also close to Griffin. Morning Joe is Griffin’s baby from inception to today. It’s Phil Griffin that has been keeping the program alive despite abysmal ratings.
c and l has a great smack down;
along with others, then they show the policy and comment’
Well, I could have written out “bullshit”….
Thanks, Knoxville, for sharing the e-mail address and your letter. Thanks, Margaret for yours, as well. I just sent your letter to him with a short note that you said it better than I would, so here it was again.
I like Rachel okay but Olbermann’s the reason I ever watch MSNBC. Or should I say “watched.”
Yeah, that Special Comment segment for the last few years was all news, no opinion. Whatever, MSNBC.
pretty sure they knew that before they made this decision, they don’t want us as viewers they want to court the fox constituents
this is not nearly as hard as it sounds, once they become fox they will get fox viewers automatically
the only thing to wonder is how fox will find a way to continue their villainization
I wonder if keith, rachael and ed have somewhere else to go now that they see they are going to be “purged”
Is Kieth Incorporated? Because SCOTUS says corporations are free to give to whomever and however much they wish.
Yeah, I think you are going to get drummed right out of here for supporting Feingold and Grayson. ;-)
Start their own channel?
I was tired of MSNBC, myself, bc KO & RM were clearly forced to dance to the tune of: look look crazoid tea-baggerz on parade, or fear fear ReThugs who won’t “work” with Obama, or laugh laugh at stupid Sarah Palin tricks. Very tedious. It was obvious that MSNBC PTB were attempting to be the “anti-Faux” by playing the same dull tedious witless “game” that Faux does only “in reverse.”
That said, both KO & RM (and possibly Schulz, although I never seemed to hit the network when he was on) could be very insightful, offer *informed* commentary and generally *behave like adults.* It’s sad that it comes downt to that, but we are long gone from the days of Walter Kronkite or Edward R. Murrow, and these 2 “newsies” were as close at it gets.
It’s abundantly clear that @ss who “suspended” KO was just looking for an excuse. I guess for Scarborough, the usual applies: IOKIYAR. Freedom of speech is mostly a thing of the past, as the corporate-owned rightwing media becomes ever more dictatorial on what is *permitted* to be said. I do find it chilling, sad and pathetic that KO is suspended and don’t like what it’s possibly foretelling for the future.
Whether one “liked” KO or not, “agreed” with KO or not is beside the point. A voice was silenced. I find that chilling, indeed. Best to KO and thanks for all he did.
They’ll never get any FOX viewers, the fools. MSNBC has been vilified for far too long by Breitbart and Limbaugh and Boortz and FOX for them to tempt any FOX viewers to switch. that’s why “Morning Joe” doesn’t have more than a half a dozen regular watchers.
Do you know what’s funny? David L. Cohen is a Comcast bigwig(look him up). He also used to be “Easy” Ed Rendell’s CoS when Rendell was Philly mayor. Yeah, Cohen moved from being Rendell’s CoS to Comcast bigwig in like 3 months.
I say they should go for it.
The thought crossed my mind, as well.
I hear you,
I thought NBC was going to go with Sarah Palin, to welcome COMCAST to their new family
Keith did have a little fun last night, showing the Tea Party, how Jim Demint, and Mitch were going to Con them. (I hear some Tea Party leaders learn about this and were piss at Demint, Good one! Keith)
Like I said before, we have got to keep the GOP honest and in bed with the Tea Party, because the Tea Party is on a mission to destroy the GOP.
It is time someone started an actual political news “network” on the web. Perhaps Keith could kick it off with an online real time news broadcast. Think about it. How many viewers would MSNBC lose if Olberman and folks took to the internet?
Sent an e-mail to this address and if failed. Got another one?
Of course. The whole media/politician relationship is so f*cking incestuous it’s should be criminal. What are Olbermann’s contributions when compared to Mrs. Greenspan for crying out loud?
I’ve been wondering about that, esp as I’ve learned more about Stewart’s family ties, super wealthy & connected background, etc. Let the buyer beware. I like Stewart ok & he can be very funny sometimes, but, like Bill Maher, I’ve never particularly seen Stewart as progressive. Just seemed more “adult” than what’s passing out there in politics these days.
phil.griffin@nbcuni.com
Yep. I like Maher too but there’s no denying that he is a rank coward. he’s so afraid of “terrorists”, that I think he’s going to wet himself every time the subject comes up.
Well you know this very well. But as far as Mrs. Greenspan is concerned: IOKIYAR. That’s all this is about, and now that the Thugs have re-taken the House, all bets are off.
Got caught, I assume…
My comment letter:
As was said by others, who ever thought KO was nonpartisan or not a political commentator?
KO should file a lawsuit on first amendment grounds. I’d love to see what discovery turns up at that snake pit network.
Yeah, Maher really has a “thing” about terrorists that I don’t get. But to be fair, Maher has always made it clear that he’s more of a (true, old style) Libertarian than a progressive. So take what you get from him knowing that.
Thanks, ella. I immediately expressed my “opinion”
Would be nice but won’t hold my breath. I think there’d be a settlement in order that the dirt doesn’t come out.
Thanks
Thanks!
I copied my comment from their site directly to him as well. The comments sites are often “filtered” by some form of corporate suck-up, so I figured I’d send it direct as well.
Progressives can be so uppity. We either adore Olbermann or express our “can’t stand him” whines on the comment forums of the progressive blogs. We can be like someone starving who would rather perish than accept nourishment that is not perfectly seasoned to our tastebuds.
Keith Olbermann was the lone voice on the vast wasteland of the mainstream media, risking his career to oppose the Bush Administration’s plundering and desecration of the United States of America and it’s peoples when doing so wasn’t cool, but potentially suicidal. He was there when we needed him most. We must pay it forward now and be there for him.
Now that corporate monster Comcast has begun to feed on it, MSNBC has begun the process of making Olbermann their next Donahue. If Keith stays gone, the next will be Rachel; perhaps making more transparent MSNBC’s reason for giving Catfood Commission spokesman Lawrence O”Donnell the 10 PM slot.
We Americans are odd in the way we rarely appreciate anything and anybody until gone, and only when gone for good. If we won’t stand up for and defend Keith Olbermann against his bosses by saturating the e-mail box of MSNBC with our protests, if we won’t change the channel whenever Countdown broadcasts without Keith; and if we don’t make MSNBC feel the sting to their bottom line profitability with gutter rating, then we are nothing more than hot air progressives and unworthy, ourselves, of expressing our points of view on these electronic pages.
So get busy. Stand for Olbermann whether you can stand him or not. Or archive his special comments, as I do, just to remember what could have been after he is gone
The nation has lost so much in this decade. Let’s not lose Keith Olbermann, too.
And he’s also more of an old fashioned Scyphozoa than he is a Hominoidea.
i’m travelling t0day – just reached my hotel – FIRST thing i see on news – KO has been suspended!!!! WHAT THE FUCK?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is the aftereffects of rethugs gaining power… this is BULLSHIT!!!
You know how they always imply, It’s Okay if you are a Republican?
This policy of MSNBC. Does anything like it exist on any right wing “News” organizations? Are you sure it doesn’t exist? The reason I ask is that if MSNBC wants to use this as a way to ‘shore up’ their ethical standards then we should see if Fox or Clear Channel or any other station has the same standards in place and ask the press who cover this story to “balance” their Olbermann stories with this information.
I know we say that “Fox has no ethical standards” but actually you would be surprised what you find in the corporate mission statements and buried in the governance reports. So sure you can attack the MSNBC presidents for beating on Keith for violation of their standards, but maybe we can use some of this energy and focus on ethical standard violations of the right wing media OWNERS, Not just the “talent”.
And since I practice what I preach right now I’m looking into possible violations of the Sarbane-Oxley act of 2002 by CEO of NewsCorp.
I agree. I’ve been totally bashed here by some very self-righteous posts who feel entitled to tell me what an utter pinhead I am for ever listening to one syllable uttered from the lips of Keith Olbermann. I never said KO was my guru and that he walked on water & the sun rose from his bum.
I got totally bored with some of his shows. So what? He stood up and spoke out on many issues that would have never seen the light of day elsewhere.
I agree that some progressives can become utterly too “purist” by half and be rather insensitively bullying if they determine that someone else hasn’t been purist enough by “lowering themselves” to watch KO or RM or whomever.
Figure it out. MSNBC is a corporate entity. In an ideal world, we’d have a ton more choices in the media, but these days we do not. NPR has swirled down the toilet bowl to mostly become yet another Republican cesspool mouthpiece (although it, too, can have some good things on). For heaven’s sake, I always thought that KO stuck his neck out. Yes, I’m sure he’s well compensated, but so??? Now we see that he’s unfairly treated for doing the *exact same thing that rightwingers do & don’t get busted for.*
That takes guts, no matter whether you agree with every word utter from KO’s lips. I take my hat off to him and think we’re a little poorer to have him gone from the airwaves. Will we survive? Of course, but acknowledging someone’s contribution is worthwhile.
Great idea. Please keep us posted on the results of your research. I’d be very interested in what you learn.
Actually, Stewart was complaining that the commentators at MSNBC have gradually become tools of the Democratic Party. Stewart wanted them to stop doing so many pieces on witches and Paladino’s bat and mama grizzlies and Angle’s angles and start doing hard hitting analysis of the policies that are breaking the back of this country. Presently these policies are being sponsored by Democrats (the kinder, gentler machine gun hands). But, around the beginning of 2010 all commentary on the cozy relationship between the Obama Administration and corporate institutions ceased and MSNBC was converted into Fox-for-lefties. Yes, they saw Fox running the campaign for the Republican/TeaBagger bunch and they felt like the Democrats needed a “fair and balanced” news station as well. So, once they committed themselves to this new political role, they gradually lost their integrity as a news station. No longer would we hear much about the shabby financial reform legislation and policies that the Democrats were cobbling together. Instead, we hear about the “most sweeping financial reform since the Great Depression!” No longer would we hear about the BP cover-up by the Obama Administration and their attempts to gloss over the environmental damage that was underway, while BP skated out with very little financial liability at all and the deep off-shore drilling program re-commenced. We hear almost nothing anymore about the atrocities that continue to occur in our perpetual war effort and short shrift was given to the Wikileaks dump. I could go on, but I think you can see that MSNBC abdicated its role as an objective news analysis network to follow down the road to ruin so well traveled by Fox. Another potentially great cable news organization has been shot down the tubes at the hands of political propaganda.
Unfortunately there are several commenters here who like to reduce things down to black and white, good vs evil and etc. Many of them always seem to miss the modifiers, like “mostly, sometimes, generally, usually, often” or anything else that might add nuance. I get sick of it and make no mistake, reducing things down to such stark contrast is a conservative trait, generally speaking.
Parker-Spitzer-Olbermann?
Will do!
Is there any truth to the rumor of a right wing GOPig in Miami buying NBC?
I wish I could have watched his election coverage, what did he say that was controversial?
Dylan Ratigan is the only permanent Host that is worth a damn outside of Keith Olbermann; Maddow makes me throw up a little in my mouth every time I hear her voice. No way will they punish her; she pushes the partisan line and avoids real controversy if it comes from the Democrats.
It’s a shame that Chris Hayes helping out MSNBC fill their empty seat. He’s dead to me and I’m going to tell that sellout about it too. His wife works in the WH so It’s the logical Vichy choice. KO is most definitely not a news journalist, he’s an analyst/opinion commentator.
I’d like to know from one of the Lawyers if this violates KO’s constitutional rights, and can an employer legally force you to dispense with them in a contract, especially if the rule is not broadly applied? Contributions are personal free speech. Does exercising his right to free speech amount to a type of noncompete agreement?
I’ll write and I’ll stop watching MSNBC, and I hope KO is able to sue their asses off and continue his program somewhere else.
There’s more going on here than meets the eye. Remember that COmcast takeover of NBC (amd MSNBC) ?
Via Crooks and liars:
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/what-role-did-comcast-play-keith-olbermanns
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Comcast now owns MSNBC after their acquisition was completed earlier this year, despite protestations from many of us. A look at campaign finance disclosures for several organizations shows that Phil Anschutz, chairman of Comcast major shareholder and content partner with Comcast, donated large sums of money to the First Amendment Alliance, one of the largest outside groups targeting Democrats in the 2010 midterm elections.
The Anschutz Corporation, wholly owned by Phil Anschutz, gave $50,000 on 9/24/2010 to the First Amendment Alliance. The two candidates targeted by the First Amendment Alliance? Jack Conway and Michael Bennet.
Keith Olbermann gave to Jack Conway’s campaign along with Raul Grijalva and Gabrielle Giffords.
In addition, the Anschutz family donated $169,900 to Republican candidates and committees during the 2010 election cycle, according to Open Secrets.
Additionally, Comcast Corporation has contributed $125,000 to the Republican Governors’ Association in the 2010 cycle (as of 9/30/2010).
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The conservative take-over and silencing of ALL Progressive media has begin.
Apparently that form doesn’t work…interesting, NO?
Every since he found out he was a jew he became sympathetic to Israel- right or wrong. He’s internalized the eternal victim ethos as deeply as any other zealot would upon conversion.
Worked for me..
If this is an NBC policy, doesn’t it apply equally to CNBC and all NBC afflliates?
If so, the blogosphere needs to investigate the donations, if any, of all the wingnuts on CNBC who report hard news on finance and the markets and do daily interviews with CEO’s who are, most definitely, the newsmakers of the day.
In particular, CNBC wingnuts include Larry Kudlow, Joe Kernan, Michelle Caruso-Cabrerra, Jim Cramer, Melissa Francis and a few others who are somewhat less strident in pushing their right-wing views on what is supposed to be a hard news show about markets and finance.
And while the researchers on the blogosphere are at it…why not look into contributions, if any, of NBC executives?
This is what I’ve been wondering, ever since the story broke. Something seems very wrong about an employee having to get approval by his employer to make a campaign/political contribution. I’m hoping some legal experts will weight in on this, because I don’t have the time to search for legal precedent this week. :(
Bill Maher is an atheist and even if he no longer is, he certainly still was when he began displaying his fear of “terrorists”. I find your comment unnecessarily prejudiced and specious in nature.
Yes and we’re going to lose the internet to them as well.
Petition: Put Olbermann Back On The Air NOW!
Petition from Bold Progressives.
I think you missed my point, which is that if Scarborough is opinion, and Olbermann is opinion, than Griffin is a hypocrite who just made a really bad move.
“Keith Olbermann – Young Turk!”?
I don’t know how to do those fancy blue letters, but here’s the email I sent to Phil Griffin:
“No one ever doubted what Keith Olberman’s political leanings were, and now we apparently know yours as well.
When you punish Democrats, but not Republicans, it is more blatantly partisan than anything Keith Olberman ever did or said. I guess like Fox you want to be “unfair and unbalanced”. It still won’t bring Fox viewers to MSNBC.
Shame, shame on you. You’ve made a great number of viewers very angry.”
SD
Nahhh! It’s because he couldn’t capitalize on the Obummer gaffe of conducting “a Slurpy SUMMIT” with John BOEHNER, even with satiric comedian Lewis Black providing the straight line!! Orwell, at least Pullosi’s Punched OUT!!!
His mother is a jew, and he is a jew culturally. It really is immaterial how you find my comment. Have you ever listened to him speak about Israel?
MSNBC withdraws offer to Chris Hayes to host Countdown while Olbermann stews. http://on.wsj.com/d0DQmZ
It’s not just JoeScar who’s got a free pass from MSNBC — Pat Buchanan has, too.
And CNBC anchor Larry Kudlow’s another GOP donor in the NBC stable who’s never been punished.
Thanks for this email addy!
The HuffPo article on KO has over 15,000 comments. It will be very interesting to see what happens with this. Either MSNBC will drop all pretense of being the liberal outlet thanks to the comcast merger OR Phil will have to walk this back wearing nail shoes.
And who showed once and for all that MSNBC is still a conservative-run and/or conservative-cowed network.
This is the same network that killed its highest-rated program of its first year, Phil Donahue’s show, because they wanted to kneel to Bush and keep anything off the air that was the least bit critical of Bush’s invading Iraq
Hmm, let me see…
Olberman is suspended for giving to 3 Democrats. His announced replacement, Chris Hayes, is taken down after it’s discovered he gave to Democrats.
Joe ScarredBrains gives to Republicans. He stays.
Now you link two others…
let me guess, they gave to the GOP too??? Right???
So let’s see, give to Dems, YOU’RE OUTA HERE. Give to GOOPERS, can I get you a bigger office?
Assholes. Big, ugly, hairy, stinky assholes.
Presently there are only a relative handful of activists in this country bent on making a systemic critique of the socio-economic system that we live under.
It’s not like this relative handful, who, by the way, is totally unorganized, can have much of an impact on any pressing reactionary policy or activity by ourselves.
Someone like Keith Olbermann can be criticized for all of his inconsistencies and contradictions; but on any number of issues he can be considered an ally. An ally, until today, that had a much larger forum than any of us.
We really don’t have the luxury of being “purists” during a period when the oligarchs are consolidating their power, and increasingly resorting to reactionary methods of control.
This SUCKS!!!
The only show on the teebee machine I really look forward to wathing is on MSNBC!!!!! And now I feel like I have to boycott…. MSNBC!!!!
Nooooooooooooooooooo!
Oh well, if it must be done it shall be done. I’ll miss ya Dylan. Best show on the teebee machine, bar none, IMO.
I sure hope nothing ever happens that I have to boycott the best internet site on the toobz, bar none.
I would have nowhere to turn then.
I’m sure they are gunning for Tweety, Maddow, and Larry too. I’m not at all surprised. Boycott MSNBC and let their sponsors know as well. These are boneheads whose wet dream was this stupid election. They think the Republicans are in control even though they are not, and even more ridiculous is that the boneheads who voted for the Republicans generally watch Dances with the Stars, Housewives, and sports. Even if they turn it into FOXII, it won’t get close to the audience they have been having.
The Lake & Jane will make sure FDL will remain as it is, a great place for progressives to gather and discuss, reasonably civilly, progressive/liberal values and ideas.
Isn’t it weird that Olberman’s takedown happens on Guy Fawkes Day?
Remember remember the 5th of November!
V
Boy! It`s just like the old Soviet Union, except you don`t end up in a labor camp or not wake up with a bullet in the back of your head — yet.
It is sad to see KO kicked for such an idiotic reason, but considering how he and RM did a 180 on HCR once the public option was removed, it became clear they are both shills for the Democrats. There is no news about it, it is clearly opinion and a worthless one at that.
Is it unfair for KO? Yes. No contract should have such idiotic restrictions, but he was by no means on the same level as Bill Moyers or Howard Zinn. He only looks good in comparison to his company.
Holy shirt…! Even ‘Bloody’ Bill Kristol is saying…
Huh, nice little dig there Bloody Bill, but otherwise good on you.
DISCLAIMER: Just because Kristol is right on this issue doesn’t change the fact that he’s a complete asshole. /disclaimer
By the way: If NBC’s on-air news reporters and readers are supposed to not make political donations, then why has NBC News producer and reporter Mary Murray not yet been punished? (Of course, I’m betting she will be now, since she donates to Democrats.)
Meanwhile, what about this?
I got your point. I was agreeing with you and trying to contribute to your point :)
Maybe MSNBC is looking for a slot for the witch from Delaware. Think FAUX may not have room . . . but still has promises to keep. Let’s see: O’Donnel can replace Keith; Buck (from Colorado) can replace Ed; Sharron Angle can replace Rachel (and raise money for her next campaign, too–just sent your money to sharonaaaaaangle dot com).
Given that everything you wrote is correct, equating Faux News and MSNBC is false on every level. I agree that MSNBC focusing on the circus clowns and not analyzing policy and criticizing policy-makers is a very bad move. But MSNBC didn’t invent shit like Faux News (eg. the ACORN conspiracy, the New Black Panthers conspiracy, etc) with the apparent goal of stoking flames of anger and hatred. MSNBC took a wrong turn, I agree. Ironically, Keith originally during the hcr debate was taking on Democrats. He then disappeared for a couple of months and returned to do the fluff bs.
I’m glad you see what tools they have become. I would hope they can be shaken out of their deep sleep so they can resume addressing the nation’s real problems. Otherwise, I have no further use for their prattle.
Stupid Keith. Now he can give generously to whomever he likes.
Chris Hayes tweets:
OK: I’m not filling in on Countdown tonight because I didn’t feel comfortable doing it given the circumstances.
My not hosting tonight has nothing to do with several donations I made to two friends before I ever signed an MSNBC contract
A revolutionary in the early 20th century coined a term for an unwillingness or inability to ever make a principled compromise with a less-than-pure ally.
KO, RM have their own contradictions, like all of us, but it is an incontrovertible fact, that, at least on some issues, they are progressive.
The term for a “purist” that would never make alliances with a potential, even if, vacillating ally, by the way, is “infantile disorder”.
I concur.
Tinhat! As usual you are so spot on! Thank you for your selfless, under appreciated sense of SNARK! And likely misunderstood and misunderestimated sense of irony also too.
The corporations know they can do what they want to progressive voices without fear of reprisals. The most they have to fear is liberals blogging even faster. That’ll show em!
Keith’s willful recklessness has consequences beyond his little world: I always depended on his neckties to calibrate my TV’s gamma and RGB.
Olberman is a “newsman?” Bwahahahahahaha.
And he’s now been suspended for partisan activity casting an ill light on NBC? Bwahahahahah. Bwahahahahahaha. NBC?? Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!
If closet-Lefty Walter Cronkite was still around even he would be ashamed at what the Left has become.
Didn’t Olberman ever hear of the FEC? Public reporting? The Internet? What a dope!
If you Libs ever begin to understand Middle America and finally dump your slobbering love affairs with Left Coast media all-star morons like Olberman and Colbert you might — might — begin to build a shred of credibilty with the vast and educated moderate/middle class that has had its fill of fools and put down its foot on Nov. 2.
It might have something to do with Keiths bit about CheneyCorp too…
Good for Chris…! ;-)
Btw, as DDay tweeted this Gawker link…
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Gee, I wonder if this Oligarch retaliation? Think theres one standard for the reich and another for the rest of us? Doh? Keith obviously is meant to be a very strident warning to the left of what’s to come next. I expect sites like this to slow down to dial up or less soon. These MFers play hardball. barry should lawyer up cause he’s next on their agenda and thy don’t want Keith or the rest of them around when it starts. The one that needs to start worrying is Barry.
Well said Matgaret .. I said something similar, just not as adroitly .. :)
Is there going to be a boycott? If there is, then hell yeah, I’ll boycott.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/11/5/918039/-Another-Scarborough-political-donation
More donations from Scarborough…and he also headlined a fundraiser…just a few months back!
Double standard.
“vast AND educated”?? .. piss off .. that’s an oxymoron .. and you qualify as head of the class …
To Msnbc: **** you you ****ety ****s.
Suspending Keith is not firing Keith, so I’m hoping that the “suspension without pay” is as far this will go, with the “indefinite” suspension part lasting only a week or two, at most.
Maybe Mr. Griffin realizes that his news, fact-based-opinion, common=sensical team at MSNBC provides a critical counter-point to the lying, deceitful, utterly corrupt conservative minions over at Fox, that Mr. Griffin’s nightly news lineup provides an oasis of sanity for the reality-based community in America. (Case in point: all the right-wingers going crazy over the false claim that President Obama’s trip to India will cost $200 million a day, while tying up 1/10 of our naval force. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Who will accurately report that Republicans are flat-out insane if not for MSNBC’s truth-telling nightly lineup, including Keith Olbermann, as well as excellent fact-based truth-telling websites like FDL?).
Fox donated a ****ing million dollars to the republicans you jackass.
Your hypocrisy and asshatery shines brighter than a million supernovas.
Except didn’t the clown court rule that campaign donations are free speech? MSGOP is history on my teevee. I hope keith goes after them for violating his constitutional right to free speech. You don’t have to ask some rightwing fucktard if you can take part in democracy.
According to Majority Leader Boner you do.
You beat me to the punch.
Keith is a welcome voice for me. Yeah, I believe him and Rachel have not been bold enough this year in criticizing the White House and Dems enough. However, I had become sick of so-called media “liberals” for whom the latest right-wing act of cruelty is just another subject of discussion over wine and cheese and hors d’oeuvres. “Liberals” who call for us to have “discussions” and “consensus” with seek “understanding” with those who commit them. “Liberals” who do not seem to that these policies and actions are in essence acts of violence against the “other”–that “other” usually being the poor, a minority, or people living in a country far away.
That was the frustrating thing about such media “liberals” and Versailles “liberals” that I grew up hearing. It had always seemed to me that if you really do have a moral grounding, you shouldn’t want to sit down and be pals with people who just voted to cut off unemployment benefits or who voted (in essence) to cause someone to be homeless or who voted that food stamps be cut or who make excuses for torture or inflicting war on another country for ideology. You don’t care to do it because you realize that such people are scum. Instead, you should want to beat them. You should want to politically destroy them and everything they stand for. Instead of seeking to be their chums, you give your allegiance to the victims. They are your true constituency, and you should never forget it.
That’s what Keith was for me–his anger, his outrage, was the first time that I ever heard a “liberal” on TV talking that way. He has his flaws, as I mentioned. But we need more angry liberals who take no prisoners.
StewartM
The real questions isn’t if Keith broke a weird clause in his employment contract, it’s how many of us have similar clauses in our employment contracts and don’t even know it?
Good thing the SCOTUS will wipe out class action lawsuits so that we all cannot band together to defend out freedom of speech.
Anybody else sensing a trend here? You would think even the Tea Party would want to defend free speech, or are they now “real” Republicans, meaning they only defend Constitutional rights when it’s convenient? Weren’t they just screaming about Juan Williams?
Well said – with passion and conviction. Thanks.
Out-F*cking-Standing…! Rachel comes out swinging for Keith…! Yee-Haw…!
‘Double Standard’ indeed…! ;-)
Atrocity:
Outcome: MSNBC dies
Outcome 2: Phil Griffin et. al. are fired
Kristol pretty much proves what an idjit he is as GE has NOTHING left to do with MSNBC . . . Comcast owns it as of earlier this year . . . .
WIth the viewers leaving and sponsor boycotts being considered by others, MSNBC is in for a world of hurt.
Likely, they’ll get a bailout from tax payer dollars the Obama admin hands them . . . /s
Larus perhaps you need to get your facts straight as Kristol is right. Think Progress reports that “Comcast has not yet officially taken over MSNBC/NBC Universal. Although Comcast has tentatively finalized a deal to purchase a majority stake in NBC, Comcast awaits final approval of the takeover from the Justice Department and from the Federal Communications Commission. A statement from Comcast reads: “The joint venture between Comcast and GE has not yet received regulatory approval. Comcast is not in any way involved with decisions made currently by NBC News.” However, once Comcast gains final approval from federal regulators to move forward, Comcast COO Steve Burke, a Bush fundraiser, will be placed at the helm of MSNBC and other NBC companies. Our original post inaccurately asserted that Comcast’s Burke was involved in the decision to fire Olbermann. We apologize for the error.”
Gawker notes that MSNBC has been exempt from the formal NBC ethics rules for years. It is still a mystery why MSNBC selectively applied NBC’s ethics rules to Olbermann. However, it important to realize that MSNBC has undergone a fundamental change in leadership in the last two months.
Late last year, Comcast — the nation’s largest cable provider and second largest Internet service provider — inked a deal taking over NBC Universal, the parent company of MSNBC. Comcast moved swiftly to reshuffle MSNBC’s top staff. On September 26th of this year, Comcast announced perhaps the most dramatic shift, replacing longtime MSNBC chief Jeff Zucker with Comcast executive Steve Burke [Updated: The shift from Zucker to Burke has not taken place yet -- Burke will preside over MSNBC once the Comcast merger is complete. We have been informed that no Comcast officials are currently involved in the decisions of NBC or MSNBC.]. Burke has given generous amounts to both parties — providing cash to outgoing Sen. Arlen Specter (D-PA) as well as to Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) and other top Republicans. But as Public Citizen has noted, Burke has deep ties to the Republican Party. Public Citizen’s report reveals that Burke served as a key fundraiser to President George Bush, and even served on Bush’s Council of Advisers on Science and Technology:
Comcast – the country’s largest provider of cable TV and broadband Internet services – has increased its political giving along with its mergers and acquisitions. CEO Brian Roberts was a co-chairman of the host committee at the 2000 Republican Convention. Comcast Cable President Stephen Burke has raised at least $200,000 for Bush’s re-election campaign. [...] Comcast’s political giving has increased along with its mergers and acquisitions. The company was a “platinum sponsor” at the 2000 GOP convention, and Roberts was a co-chairman of the host committee at the Philadelphia event. Burke was appointed to the President’s Council of Advisers on Science and Technology in 2002.
Why would Comcast be interested in silencing progressive voices? Historically, Comcast has boosted its profits by buying up various telecommunication and media content companies — instead of providing faster Internet or better services (overall, American broadband services are far slower than in many industrialized nations). Many of these mergers, as Public Citizen and Free Press have reported, have bee
Listen….NBC is not going to hear anything we say that will not, possible, interfere with their profit stream. So I suggest the following:
Stop watching NBC and MSNBC until Keith returns, Call the advertisers and ask them to stop advertising until Keith returns and if they don’t stop buying their products.
To be frank, I believe all of you are missing the point which just goes to show how bad it is when progressives can’t figure out whose at fault for this. As Senator Sanders pointed out, all US citizens have a 1st amendment right to make political contributions and the 14th amendment states that no one including your employer can take that right away from you so Mr. Griffin should be fired and probably everyone that he has recently fired or reprimanded should have those reprimands removed from their personnel file and/or be reinstated. It seems our corporate masters have so brainwashed us that we forget they have no right whatever to hold anyone accountable for their political views.
This will turn into a great publicity stunt that will perfectly illustrate the dishonesty behind the Supreme court’s Citizen’s United stunt.
The FCC should investigate Comcast’s role in all of this and not approve their takeover over NBC. In fact, they should take a closer look at Comcast’s previous behavior including political contributions and Internet censorship. The internet censorship issues alone are enough to deny their application and probably end their days as a internet corporate service censor.
MSNBC, has a “right” to violate an individuals exercise of free speech rights under the color of law? Corporations can preclude a constitutional right, from being exercised. Lets see corporations can spend unlimited cash to influence elections and individuals like KO are precluded, as individuals?
The corporate slime at MSNBC are over the top. They have violated clear constitutional protections designed for people. Thank you Justice Roberts for “intellectual bullshit” you have opined. The same type of bullshit offered by Taney in Scott vs Sanford. We now see the results of such a decision. Corporations can’t discriminate against people but they can violate law, under the color of law when it comes to political expression of a public individual, in his private life! Fuck You MSNBC!!!!!!!!!
“may create the appearance of a conflict of interest.”
Hey MSNBC, where where you when Justice Thomas acted on Citizens United, and his wife benefits from the decision? No “appearance of impropriety,”
here? Nice job, MSNBC, corporate slime in hypocritical crime!
Right-wingers always poo-poo the idea of freedom of speech or a right to privacy on the job. Employers in our society are given the rights akin to feudal lords, to muzzle or restrict speech or to invade privacy when they can construe a “business reason”.
I worry at some time in the future that this will lead to the death of the free internet. Right now, the courts have denied employees to any right to privacy–employers can snoop on them at will–when using company computers. This is granted employers because of business reasons, that among other things the employees might be exposing company computers to risks by malware, or that the employees might use the computers to divulge valuable company information whose disclosure would hurt the company. The spyware and blocking protocols used to enforce such policies is the same software that was developed by US companies for out-and-out *dictatorships* like Singapore and China.
Now–let’s just drive this point to its logical conclusion, shall we?
If employees divulging company information is indeed justification to restrict their privacy rights, what about that computer time the employee spends at home?? Lots of employees after all now have to take work home, couldn’t they divulge that valuable information from their home computers as well? I can already see the solution for this–the company provides you with a company computer with the spyware built-in for free, and provides you a free internet connection. It then decrees that you can have *NO* other internet-connected computer or service at risk of being fired. Of course, your company computer will also block certain sites and protocols because they are “too dangerous” or at the very least will log all visits to whatever sites you visit.
If you are a visitor or participant to any sites that your employer would rather you not visit (hello, FDL?) then it’s disciplinary time!
And you know what? I could almost see the Roberts court, or future iterations of rightwing courts, upholding the “right” of employers to do just this. All the right-wing justifications will be trotted out: after all, you “don’t have to work for that employer” (yeah, when unemployment is 10 % or more, you have LOTS of choices on which jobs to take) or “other companies will offer more liberal policies and let the market decide” (funny said “diverse” market ends up looking all the same to employees and all the companies copycat each other).
Right-wing paranoids always talked during Clinton and Obama about “the government taking control of the internet”. But the loss of internet freedom, if it happens, will not be because of Big Brother. It will be because of little brother, because of employers. Maybe only then, when the number of people who really do have unrestricted service dwindle to a small fraction of the population, would the government then have the power to move against that.
StewartM
I’d quit watching MSNBC over this bullshit suspension … but we haven’t watched TV for almost a year. We’re still paying for satellite, and that makes little sense. Hmm….
Seems like Chris Hayes also gave campaign contributions. So they went with Thomas Roberts, who I’ve never heard of.