Whatever happens, whatever the report sez, you can safely conclude that the process was carried out in a way to piss off the gay community and the homophobes to the maximum degree possible. What a bunch of absolute dolts.

I conclude from watching this carry out in public that the generals are just as competent at war making as they are about determining personnel policy. After all, they’ve had more practice at wars.

BTW, should that be “Monday, November 29?”

((modnote: yes, thank you.))

This is a wait and see with me since nothing good has come from this gruop in power yet.

Let’s see if the evangelicals running the USAF ignore it.

I LIKE dadt because if one of our mercenary thugs wises up and realizes he’s getting paid too little for murder, rape, torture, and danger in multiple deployments to the illegal wars of two lying presidents, he can say, “Colonel, sir, I’m as gay as a tray of hummingbirds. Where’s my ticket home?”

I suspect repeal will do little more than allow the bullies to go around yelling “Are you some kind of [sexual expletive] or something?” and not get in trouble.

Watch for the likes of–

From the Dems:
"Oh, those darn Republicans just won’t let us pass the defense authorization bill unless we remove the DADT repeals! But we really really tried, for realsies this time! Vote for me!"

From the Repubs:
"America has spoken, and we, your most holy of patriots, have thwarted the evil gay agenda! But we aren’t homophobes! The goal post is now here!"

I am not taking the bait. My hopes are not raised, nor have my expectations changed.

Citizen godistwaddle:

The real “mecenaries” work for more’n $100,000 a year and they are in the employ of corporate contractors like Xe and they are not in the least covered by don’t ask don’t tell…in fact they are deployed in most of our most important embassies in the world. The poor grunt GI’s who came outta the National Guard and reserve units or joined recently outta high school ‘cuz college was outta the question and there are no jobs are pullin guard duty for the corporate mercs and drawin fire from the locals.

No Citizen godistwaddle, get your head outta your lower bowl and either start workin to get the real mecenaries out of power in our government or go back to your yard and fuck up your compost heap.

They’re just being selective about who they wnat to process for cannon fodder. Only #1 Prime Choice is wanted in the boxes showing up at Dover Air Force Base.

Good point. Why in jeebus’ name would they want to give up their quick return ticket?

Norske, they aren’t obligated to pull guard duty for the corporate mercs. They could deal dope.

gay as a tray of hummingbirds

That image will be stuck in my head at least till the end of the day.

Jim White has a fresh cross-post ready: Douthat Stumbles Upon, Discards Truth to Promote Conservative Myth on Irish Economic Woes

This may sound totally dumb and unfeeling, but why is this issue so important? To me it skews the essential political debate – if you don’t want to be discriminated against, surely you don’t want to join the military? I know, I will offend many honorable and brave servicepeople, but isn’t it a bit like the frenchman’s call for a run on the banks? Shouldn’t we be calling for a run on the military as well?

Thanks juliana for stating clearly the painfully obvious.

Many gays and lesbians are in their mid-to-late 20s before they come to terms with their sexual identity. Many people who enter into military service do so at age 19. One who has been in the military for a few years, who then comes to accept their own personal sexual identity as being gay/lesbian, should not be forced to lie to their superiors and their peers about their new acceptance.

if you don’t want to be discriminated against, surely you don’t want to join the military?

Surely you aren’t advocating for institutionalized bigotry? Is bigotry OK as long as the bigot is the government?

I’m as against militaristic culture as the next proggie. But if we must have a military – and there are plenty of good arguments to support that claim – then I want it to be as free from bigotry as is reasonably possible.

What about HIV.
Recent report states 20% of gay men have HIV.

Remove DADT and they rate of HIV in military will go up.
Will taxpayers have to pay for those infected.
If so, then for how long.

Okay what about Hep. C? Just as contagious and on the rise. Guess what? It’s on the rise with BREEDERS! So what about it?

Heard of sex education? Blood tests?

Or have you not heard that HIV is no longer just a gay disease?

Something to consider: About 2.5 million people in jail, best guess is over 40 per cent have Hep. C they get turned loose and you do the math.
S.D.G.

Since ’97 the cost to the tax payer is over 300 million to replace these people who are in critical fields. It costs between 23,000 per replacement up to as much as 35,000. Per: Newsweek

I would think the new tea buggers would over turn DADT since they are so concerned with govt. spending.
S.D.G.