It’s very interesting to see how things are lining up in the Senate. You had the food safety bill pass with 73 votes. Scott Brown came out today in favor of repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. The DREAM Act will get a vote next week, with somewhat persistent White House backing. The new START arms reduction treaty appears to have picked up legitimate Republican support, with 9 Republicans publicly signaling support. If you didn’t know better, you’d say there was an outbreak of bipartisanship in the Senate.
But all of this is happening under a threat of total obstruction. All you have to do is read Susan Collins’ statement on Don’t Ask Don’t Tell to understand what’s going on here:
“After hearing powerful testimony from Secretary of Defense Gates and Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mullen, and reviewing the results of the Pentagon report, I remain convinced that the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy,” implemented under President Clinton, should be repealed. And, I agree with Secretary Gates that the issue should be decided by Congress, not the courts [...]
“Once the tax issue is resolved, I have made it clear that if the Majority Leader brings the Defense Authorization bill to the floor with sufficient time allowed for debate and amendments, I would vote to proceed to the bill.”
This kamikaze action by the Republicans is still holding, although as I’ve said, they pointedly exempted new START from that. Basically, there’s a dare being made here, to pass the tax cut extension or give up a number of policy agenda items, and what’s more, here are the specific Republican votes you would have if you agreed to that.
This is why Bob Menendez likened it to negotiating with terrorists today. It really is a hostage situation. And one that’s likely to succeed.
Jeff Merkley’s Senate rules reforms cannot come fast enough.




15 Comments

Support this site!
Subscribe to the newsletter
Advertise on Firedoglake
Send
us your tips
Make us your homepage
About FDL News Desk
If we prevent 2 million people from losing all their income over the holidays and end DADT, it may be worth negotiating with terrorists this time. After all, it is only money they are demanding, in exchange for not ruining many people’s lives.
As for the Dream act, it’s not the waterdowned one you described the other day? I’m not sure that one would be worth it.
But this is today’s rethuglican party whose promises mean nothing whatsoever. Pass the tax cut extensions then it changes to “Now the president has to sign it” and immediately after Obama signs it the promised votes disappear. Again.
Do you really think this time Charlie Brown will get to kick the football?
Obama should have these people arrested and sent to Gitmo.
Declare their seats open, and their votes unnecessary for purposes of cloture.
Have Biden take the chair, and call votes on everything, and pass it all.
Never! And definitely not by this sorry President.. He has lost all credibility with this voter… Sure sad he is in no way a true Democrat who cares for the sprawling masses… He has sold all of us out…
People are going to need unemployment insurance a year from now, too.
Better make this extension as long as the “temporary” tax cuts for the rich, don’t you think?
Well that’s a nice dream, Teddy, and I would love to see it happen. Alas… never will happen that way.
Also, there is no guarantee those Republican votes will actually be there when it comes time to vote for cloture on these bills, much less vote on the actual bills. Republicans have done nothing in recent history to make me believe that they will follow through with anything. Call me cynical.
And agreeing to their demands, or even just negotiating with them, merely validates their strategy. Yep, hostage takers.
Bottom line: don’t negotiate with terrorists. As Wildeye said.
stewartm
I’m sure that you people do realize that focusing on DADT, DREAM and START is a distraction from the more important downward spiral of Americans in Team USA which includes five people looking at every one job, spending $380m per day in Afghanistan and more “free trade” outsourcing opportunities for corporations.
I’m totally impressed with David Dayen’s capacity for wise analysis on a multitude of interesting subjects. I’ve never seen such omnipotence before.
But some issues are more important than others. Gays in the military, for one example, is interesting but compared to what the military is doing it’s minor. Misdemeanor vs. felony. Etc. Just sayin’.
Remember Nero.
How long do you provide unemployment benefits? 6 months, 1 year, 2 years, 5 years, 20 years. I never hear an endgame articulated, just an extension. Anyone?
You provide unemployment benefits until the economy produces jobs for laid off workers. The endgame will not emerge at the approach of some deadline. It will appear when workers return to work.
Dems would do that if they could get 60 votes. LOL!
Well, the first two years of Obama-Reid-Pelosi was all about Democrats locking Republicans out of the discussions. Obama would not even talk to them. Pelosi ran rough shod over all Republican efforts to enter the debate. Now its over!
The American people kicked the Democrats out of the House and gave the Republicans a lot more clout in the Senate.
Republicans would be stupid to even give the Democrats the time of day.
Cut spending! Cut Taxes! Reduce government!
That is the mandate the American people gave Republicans.
The Tea Party will ride herd on the squishy Republicans and make sure we are united and firm against any attempt to increase spending, taxes or the size of the government.
That does not leave a lot of room for negotiations.
Elections are two years away and the Republicans know it.
Where on earth are you getting your talking points.
Most of the folks here are quite aware of the numbers of times that Obama DID meet with Republicans and offer them concessions. But the Republicans still whined about not getting everything they wanted so they had to complain that they got nothing. It. Is. Not. True.
Democrats could go Kamikaze on Republicans, too, if they so chose.
Democratic Party leaders threw away a major bargaining chip they could have used against Republicans when they decided not to investigate and prosecute Republican crimes during the Bush/Cheney years.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi started this when she took impeachment of Bush and Cheney off the table in early 2007.
This continued in early 2009 after President Obama was sworn-in as our 44th president. Obama, Sen. Reid and Speaker Pelosi decided to “look forward, not backward,” essentially giving all the Republicans from the criminal Bush/Cheney administration retroactive immunity…while getting nothing in return, no “thank you” from Republicans, no cooperation.
On the other hand, if Democratic Party leaders had kept investigations and prosecutions of Bush/Cheney administration officials on the table as a bargaining chip, as an implied threat, with certain political thresholds in place, with Republicans in the House and Senate (and even in the right-wing news media) informed (in private or in public, if necessary) about what would happen (committee hearings, DOJ investigations, subpoena power, prosecutions, convictions) if Republicans didn’t cooperate with Democrats in addressing all the harm Bush/Cheney had done to America.
A menu of potential investigations into Bush/Cheney administration crimes could have been relayed to Republican leaders, a menu starting with less serious crimes (Hatch Act violations, crony capitalist no-bid contracts) and leading into much more serious crimes (torture, CIA agent outings, pre-9/11 scrutiny, Hurricane Katrina and New Orleans, pre-and post-invasion Iraq War).
If Republicans balked, then a warning shot could have been fired in early 2009 with investigations/committee hearings being initiated into Bush/Cheney crimes on the lower part of the investigation menu. If Republicans still didn’t “get it,” then other items on the menu could be tapped, special prosecutors appointed, grand juries seated, committee hearings held, ordering Republicans from the Bush/Cheney administration to come in and testify under oath.
But top Democratic Party officials didn’t do this. They instead gave get-out-of-jail-free cards to all the Republicans, maintaining the status quo, the criminal conservative status quo, which can only lead to a repeat.
Of course, President Obama (and Sen. Reid…Speaker Pelosi will soon be history) could still fire a warning shot across the Republican bow, threatening Bush/Cheney administration investigations, which might get the attention of obstructionist Republicans, and help Democrats save our country, and improve the electoral chances of Democrats (including President Obama) in the 2012 elections. The last thing culture of corruption Republicans want is to see the Bush/Cheney can of worms opened, which is why Democrats could use this as leverage, helping Democrats get liberal progressive legislation passed and signed into law, helping American workers and the middle-class, while putting brakes on the apocalyptic-minded Republicans who obviously have a death wish for America and the future of our nation’s children.
Get tough Democrats. Give the culture of corruption and greed Republicans something to really scream about. Open up the Bush/Cheney can of worms. Play hardball. Don’t compromise. Force Republicans to capitulate for a change. And if they don’t, then open up the Bush/Cheney can of worms, and let the Constitution-protecting, democracy-saving investigations begin. Get all the Bush/Cheney crimes out in the open. Let voters decide.