Chuck Schumer expressed an “appetite” to fight for expiration of the Bush tax cuts for income above $250,000, even if it meant that all of them expire. That would be the way to get them, but it’s not likely to happen. The President is too far dug in on not letting taxes rise for “middle class working families,” and therefore got himself stuck. He doesn’t want those taxes to rise, period. Maybe the Democrats in Congress could defy that strategy by filibustering any temporary extension, but I doubt it highly. Mitch McConnell certainly doesn’t sound worried:
“I think it’s pretty clear now taxes are not going up on anybody in the middle of this recession,” McConnell said on Meet the Press. “It isn’t going to happen.” [...]
The White House is pressing the GOP to allow an extension of unemployment benefits and the tax breaks in the stimulus bill in exchange for an extension of income tax rates. According to the Huffington Post, Obama will allow the cuts to expire if the GOP refuses. On that score, McConnell claimed there’s no impasse.
“I think we will extend unemployment benefits,” he said.
So that was a signal. The reference is to this story from Sam Stein, where the President told Democratic leaders in a private meeting that he would oppose any deal that didn’t get unemployment benefits extended along with the tax cuts, along with some other expiring tax measures like the Making Work Pay tax cuts from the stimulus. “Without them, taxes would still rise for 95 percent of Americans,” said a White House official. McConnell today mentioned the unemployment benefits, but not Making Work Pay. According to Jake Tapper Republicans have balked at extending Making Work Pay, which is a flat $400 tax credit for every worker in America.
Here are some of the other measures the White House wants:
The Alternative Minimum Tax;
The American Opportunity Tax Credit (higher education tax credit);
The Earned Income Tax Credit;
Extenders for the Research & Experimentation tax credit;
Bonus depreciation (expensing) – this doesn’t expire but the White House thinks it’s good for the economy;
The HIRE Act – a tax credit for hiring people;
Build America Bonds, which changes the tax treatment for municipal and state financing, allowing them to raise money for projects; and
Energy tax credits (solar and wind energy tax credits are set to expire).
Overall, this package could end up being as much as $150 billion dollars. It’s a tax credit-based stimulus, but it basically extends current law in a lot of respects, the current law we have that is not driving a whole lot of job growth.
I get the sense that a lot of Democrats simply don’t want to give up this fight, and want to use the leverage that the calendar gives them. But it’s a bit late for that. They’re right that the $60 billion annually from letting those top-end tax cuts expire could fund all kinds of noble programs. I heard that on the campaign trail for the last 10 years. They’re right that 56 percent of all income growth went to the top 1% over the last 20 years, and so they’re the last people who deserve to maintain low tax rates. They’re right that the effective tax rate of the wealthiest 400 Americans last year was 16.5%. They’re right that the tax rates Republicans seek, which according to them will “boost the economy,” led to the worst job and economic growth performance of the postwar era. Mitch McConnell hilariously defended this on Meet the Press today by saying “Imagine how much worse it would have been if we’d had a higher tax rate.” Franken was great on this:
22.7 milion jobs and a giant surplus later, George W. Bush waltzes into office and says, ‘Hey, we’re running a surplus. The people deserve a tax cut.’ Now let’s recall what he said about his tax cut. He said, over and over again, and I quote, “by far the vast majority of the help goes to those at the bottom end of the economic ladder.” Wow. That sounds like the bottom got a vast majority of the tax cuts.
They didn’t. Actually, the bottom 60 percent of Americans got just 14.7 percent of the Bush tax cuts. And the top one percent got 29.5 percent of the tax cuts. Exactly double. Let me repeat that. The top 1 percent got double of what the bottom 60 percent did.
The results of this new policy? Massive deficits. Only one million new jobs over the eight years of his presidency. One million.
And now my friends in the minority want to go back to that discredited economic philosophy.
The Democratic argument is right. But the leader of the party already stopped making it. He’s busy bargaining. And so that’s the bargain we’ll get. It’s a major loss for the party, and I think a lot of politicians inside it understand that.





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I like the Eli option.
Why doesn’t Obama negotiate that he will only serve till 2012 then he can let a real Democrat with a spine run.
I would fully support that bipartisan agreement!
who?
as in–name one who is viable as a national candidate?
… except that Obama has clearly signaled that he doesn’t give a damn about the lesser people.
It’s the taxes levied upon our lords and masters that he’s adamant about. To Obama the middle-class is simply convenient cannon fodder for this latest round in the class war.
DD–
do the solar and energy credits include extending the infrastructure credit; the one that pays for half of the upgrade to add a electric car charger to a residence?
that expires 12/31/10
and,
can anyone explain why reconciliation, which worked for the original tax cut vote in 2001, doesnt work now?
Dems already had lost this one when they refused to pass the middle class tax cut prior to the elections.
It hasn’t seemed like they had the will to fight Reps on this for a while, so at least we are getting unemployment insurance.
Also, in terms of the economy (which right now I think is more important than the deficit), we need any stimulus we can get. Tax cuts are pretty bad stimulus (with a multiplier of about .3), but they are at least still stimulus. $60 billion annually in tax cuts is about $20 billion in stimulus. Given that congress is not likely to pass any real stimulus, this is better than nothing. And unemployment insurance is one of the best stimuluses there is.
Commenters were discussing reconciliation in this thread yesterday. Someone mentioned that reconcilition cannot be used to increase the deficit.
Though you have a good point. Bush’s original tax cuts increased the deficit (which is why they had to be made to expire). So i still think dem could pass it through reconciliation (if they pass a budget resolution first), but they ain’t gonna do that.
Oh, don’t fall for that spin on unemployment benefits. That was a totally different issue. They want you to think they are getting something. They aren’t. The Republlicans know they are pre-caved. If they agree to unemployment benefits it’s for reasons of their own. Probably because Catfood Conrad and his merry band of Benedict Arnolds are going to hand over Social Security next.
you are probably right. But I already accepted that they would cave on tax cuts months ago. I’m just glad they will pass an extension unemployment insurance, for whatever reason they pass it.
Nora Ephron recently summed up her feelings of disappointment with Obama, for whom she worked and to whom she gave donations (me too!), by saying that Obama lacks the courage to ever be anything more than a consensus builder. Wow. That’s exactly what I now beleive about Barack Obama. He ran as a guy who could get things done and who believed in a certain vision of America. I bought in. That vision included prosperity for all,, or certainly at least evenhanded treatment. But now, I know I bought in to a mirage. It’s time to fight for the unemployed, many of whom voted for him. He struts around like he’s a “bad cat” but really, he’s just a make- believe Black man who in reality is a child of the Hawaiian suburbs. He just wants to fit in. Not exactly the trailblazer I had hoped for.
The Democratic brand will soon cease to exist.
And as much as the DLC and Third Way would like to think that
their approach will lead the Democrats back to power, it won’t.
We are in for some very dark times.
dday,
You surely don’t take anything Schumer, a wholly owned subsidiary of Wall St, sez about tax cuts for the wealthy seriously, do you? He’s worse than O about pandering to the base (I hear he has prez ambitions) while giving away the store to the wealthy. Doesn’t pass the giggle test.
And the extension of unemployment benefits will be for how many total weeks and for what duration of time in effect? If I were doing it, and I clearly am not, it would last until the unemployment rate dropped below 6%.
No one will explain that, no.
Why don’t we approach that question from the angle – which progressive/ liberal Senator or Governor wants to be President but thought maybe ‘sometime in the future’….it’s our job to confront that person, now, and acknowledge that maybe their ‘sometime in the future’ is a lot closer than they think.
“NO” is the explanation… :=)
Interesting.
Unsurprisingly, I don’t see any help for the 99ers. I begin to believe that’s because as long as we’re off the rolls, the unemployment rate looks better than it would otherwise.
My recollection is that Cheney cast the deciding vote, making it 51-50.
So the official explanation might actually be “Go fuck yourself.”
It’s not bipartisany.
Because the Ds aren’t really interested in extending tax cuts for anyone but the wealthy?
Maybe get some student loans and head back to campus?
Some 99ers I know have done that.
But, yes — the USG has come up with all kinds of creative ways to keep people off the official number. Otherwise it would look like the 1930s and we can’t have that, now can we?
The Democratic brand will soon cease to exist.
I hope so. The party has become a standing obstacle to progress.
If Mr O really wants any of these to go through, he’s going to have to do some armtwisting. Himself. As in, he has to convince the Conservadems (like him) and at least a couple of Rs that it’s necessary to do it this way, or they can expect pitchforks and torches on their office steps.
As if people outside the Beltway aren’t well aware of the real numbers….
Okay, I give up. How am I supposed to live while I’m going to school full time?
I am not sure “consensus” is being built. Obama isn’t even capable of that.
I’d love to be able to go back to school but even with a student loan I wouldn’t be able to afford much more than books, tuition and basic supplies. Remember it’s just me doing this. I have no partner, spouse, parents or close family. I’m in this entirely on my own.
I agree. He certainly hasn’t built a consensus among Dems. The Rs should let him win in ’12 – he’s the best Republican for the job.
And is Howard Dean interested in a second try? I think people would have another opinion of him now given the Obama-Rahma Health Care sellout.
Hey the unemployed won’t get anything but sure as hell the rich will keep their bounty… the rest of us will be eating dirt.. Just you watch!
I’d vote Dean but he’s such a “team player” I don’t know if he could be convinced to run.
And is Tom Harkin too old for a second try?
Jonathan Turley?
Oh yeah. I have no doubt. The Republicans will insist that the tax cut vote be taken first and they’ll offer Obama everything in the world. Obama being Obama will pressure the Congress to proceed as the Repugs suggest and then they’ll filibuster everything, from unemployment extensions to the START treaty.
I myself do not like Feingold, but I suppose he could be a contender.
I am trying to imagine people who would get the best of Romney, a Palin, and Cheney, even a Bachmann….a FIGHTER is needed, not a wimp or concilator. That has been tried and you see what we got.
Trumka? Someone who actually knows the value of labor with a small “L”?
So that’s what we get with big Dem majorities in both houses and a “Democrat” in the WH.
I’m probably wrong about this, so take it with a grain of salt. But I thought you could only pass something in reconciliation if you had a budget to reconcile it with. The Democrats never passed a budget for 2011 (IIRC) and thus reconciliation can’t be used.
Either that or they really don’t want to use it. Which is true in both scenarios if you ask me. If I’m right about no budget meaning no reconciliation, then you can bet the farm the reason they CHOSE not to pass a budget was so reconciliation couldn’t be used for this, or anything else.
So the bottom line answer is because the Dems didn’t want to use reconciliation whereas the R’s did. SOrry for the length to just say that.
You have that right. BO is a pussy when it comes to real negotiating! He would be a push over in Poker… Dumb shit.
we can depend on Obama and the Democrats to suck up. that is what they are supposed to do. and they do it very well. some scattered coins for the “little people” to show what good “souls” we are.
now be on your way, peasant!
I’d rather see Dean write a book about his fight the Democratic Party mandarins and describe how corrupt the world’s oldest political party has become. He certainly had a front-row seat for that.
Let’s wake up!
Obama does not give a shit about letting the middle-class tax cuts expire or unemployment benefits. It’s a fig leaf to give away the 700 billion to the rich.
If he let’s it all expire, and people no longer have unemployment benefits and middle class tax cuts, and the republicans keep blocking any new bill to remedy this, it would be pitchfork in the streets time.
Plus, when it’s time to really cut the budget. And balance the books, and there is a new 700billion hole, you think he is going to raise 700 billion in new taxes on the corporate rich, or will he cut 700 billion out of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security?
This 700billion giveaway,…guarantees they can then steal the 2.5 trillion dollar Social Security surplus
Pretty sure they already did that. That’s why they want the actual social security itself now.
You have to marvel at the Rs. They keep their people completely in line and on message and they have boxed Obama in at every turn. It’s amazing.
Yep, it is amazing. Why, someone not knowing any better might think it was as if Obama wanted to be boxed in at every turn….
He’s easy for sure.
It’s like a finely choreographed dance routine.
I don’t claim to understand how it works, but people live on their student loans. You borrow the money to live on, it seems like.
Remember this folks. Remember it well. Obama has no vote in Congress. The D’s in Congress could just do NOTHING and they will all expire. If they extend them for everyone, it’s BECAUSE THEY CHOSE TO.
And please don’t be fooled by the unemployment extension. Just ask yourself this, if a victim of an assualt needed medical care, would the right answer to efforts to block that victim from medical care be a compromise with the one who attacked him/her such that the attacker got a boatload of cash in exchange for letting the victim receive the needed help?
Because that’ EXACTLY what this is godammit. The RICH ARE THE ONES that trashed this economy. It was the MOTU’s that caused the financial crisis that caused the meltdown that caused all of this unemployment. And now, in order to help those victims, we’re supposed to GIVE THOSE ASSHOLES THAT CAUSED THIS MESS $700 BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
Remember this folks. Remember it well. Any politician on board with this shit deserves to lose his job and, well I’ll self moderate here on what else they deserve to lose. –Mod Note: Lets not go further down this road.–
NO FUCKING COMPROMISES WITH THE TERRORISTS THAT CAUSED THIS UNEMPLOYMENT. FUCK ‘EM ALL!!! And please HOLD ANY and ALL pols that support this accountable.
These people want to primary Barack Obama, for his base he is a Benedict Arnold type politician switching sides against the colonies.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-bernie-sanders/a-real-jaw-dropper-at-the_b_791091.html
Yes, you do. The student loans are such that they cover not only books and tuition, but living expenses while a student as well. Assuming you qualify for the student loans, of course.
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Right on, OFG.
Have you considered the possibility that the Rs will demand that all of the tax cuts be passed and signed into law BEFORE taking any action on extending unemployment benefits? Just to fuck with Obama.
While the tax cuts should be renewed, the government needs to be shrunk. Any other business that faces a decrease in funding would start slashing personnel. But of course that is not going to happen, no instead the services are going to get cut. The DOD, DOE, Dep. of edu and DHS should start by getting slashing 10 percent of it’s work force. Also lets privatize/automate huge swathes of the government, such as the passport process. I am not going to hold my breath on this.
President is also an elite and his going on about the middle class seems to me to be a mystery. What is this magical middle class they him and other seem to be talking about? Am I middle class cause I make abotu 70k a year?
Also along the same lines, the concept that somehow people who make over 250,000 are rick is another mystery to me. Most people I know that make over that amount have business and they don’t make 250,000 profit more like 50-100k. Most of the money they make turn around and put it back into their business for overhead and R+D.
Anyone ever see the Obama Deception movie on Youtube?
It’s main theory which to me was absolute nuts in march 2009 (when they released it) is starting to seem fucking spot on.
That Obama is a Wall Street backed corporate stooge serving the Oligarchy. I mean fuck that sure would explain about 90% of all his caves.
-Caves on
- Public Option
-Too Big to fail
-Iraq PULLOUT
_Afghanstan pullout
-Pharma deal
-Derivatives
-BP accountability.
-Not prosecuting fucking publicly admitted war crimes!
-Closing Guantanamo
-Not hiring Lobbyists
-Restoring civil liberties and transparency
-Letting expire taxes for the rich
-Restoring Glass Steagall
-The Catfood commission
-Larry Sumners, Bernanke, Geithner
-Letting Dawn Johnsen twist in the wind.
-Pressuring Spain Germany and Uk not to prosecute Bush war crimes
-the FUCKING 9 TRILLION DOLLAR GIVEAWAY TO BANKS
Oh..on the other hand, he did get the Lilly Ledbetter act so I guess we are square,
Are we citizens or fucking Lemmings?
You know it’s truly bad when the Beltway media get it 10% right, and when stark raving loon conspiracy theorists get it 90% right.
–Mod Note: Please use your “inside” voice (all caps is considered yelling and not needed)–
If the high end tax cuts are extended for 2 years, by then the GOP will be in control of WH, House, and Senate, who will then make them permanent. If the unemployment benefits are extended for one year the cost is approx. $12 mil., tax cuts for wealthy cost $60 billion per year. So if my math is correct aren’t the Dems trading $12 billion for $120 billion plus. Can these guys negotiate, or what. And shouldn’t unemployment benfits be extended as long as tax cuts.
Yeah, let’s give it all to the private sector assholes who crashed the fucking economy, right?
Opposed to bipartisanship, are ya?
troll
just see it’s spelling.. very deliberate.
Just about anyone at this point would be better. Honestly I don’t know why he wants more than one term. He’s already made history as the first black president. He already has his legislative “achievements” c/o Big Insurance Squid to boast about. He is guaranteed six figure speaking gigs for the rest of his life. What more is there to achieve? Why would he want four extra years of negotiating surrenders?
Oh consensus is being built all right. It is to get rid of this milquetoast and replace him with someone with a fucking backbone and some damn guts and just a bit of moxie.
“Negotiated” surrender? How about just a surrender? The other side knew the administration would cave–as they have over and over. Actually, there is no other side. As Gore Vidal said years ago, there is only one party, the property party, with two right wings. I voted for Obama in the primaries and the general election. I was wrong. I’ve supported Democratic candidates exclusively for years. No more. So-called health reform that enshrines the current horrible system, sham financial reform, increased commitment to a hopeless war in Afghanistan–that’s not change I can believe in. I don’t know who or what the alternative will be, but radical, to the root, change is the only kind I would vote for now.
I’ve been thinking this for awhile–thanks for pointing out the video. There are only two possibilities: he is the worst politician in the history of the world, or this is what he wanted all along. I believe it’s the latter.
Dude,
Great ideas. New to these parts? *g*
Someone sent me the video a long time ago, and it is pretty amazing to watch things pan out over time…scary and also really sad and disappointing…
Ya left out complete amnesia of EFCA.
Yet some moron on Meet the Press said this morning that Bushama ran from the center and has governed from the left. Don’t know where the fuck he’s been for the past 2 years.
The video’s premise that he’s doing this to strengthen the central government is flawed. Your premise that he’s a pawn of the plutocrats is what I believe.
Very true–very sad and terribly disappointing, especially issues like health care and the war. Well, all of it….
President Hologram was complicit in the boxing.
BTW, it’s probably been mentioned here but did everyone read Rich’s NYT piece today? He uses the Stockholm Syndrome to describe Obama. Expect more of this, even from center-left commentators who are still apologizing for PBO. Another year for conventional wisdom to settle in that PBO is Carter only with more melanin and less political savvy, and he’s dead in the water.
He’s never been left…he ran as a lefty and governs for the right..
Rich and Krugman are pulling no punches. Their statements are as damning as those on FDL.
Why would he want 4 extra years of negotiating surrenders?
To finish driving the stake through the Demcratic Party.
Do you have a link to that video?
I’d love to see it if it’s ok.
That’s a little off. He’s boxed in because that’s the part he has been assigned to play,his administration and party for that matter, put up no resistance. Yes they have good discipline but when your opponent is impotent it’s not that amazing. Dems really are the designated party of failure.
Democratic Party leaders threw away a major bargaining chip they could have used against Republicans when they decided not to investigate and prosecute Republican crimes during the Bush/Cheney years.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi started this when she took impeachment of Bush and Cheney off the table in early 2007.
This continued in early 2009 after President Obama was sworn-in as our 44th president. Obama, Sen. Reid and Speaker Pelosi decided to “look forward, not backward,” essentially giving all the Republicans from the criminal Bush/Cheney administration retroactive immunity…while getting nothing in return, no “thank you” from Republicans, no cooperation.
On the other hand, if Democratic Party leaders had kept investigations and prosecutions of Bush/Cheney administration officials on the table as a bargaining chip, as an implied threat, with certain political thresholds in place, with Republicans in the House and Senate (and even in the right-wing news media) informed (in private or in public, if necessary) about what would happen (committee hearings, DOJ investigations, subpoena power, prosecutions, convictions) if Republicans didn’t cooperate with Democrats in addressing all the harm Bush/Cheney had done to America.
A menu of potential investigations into Bush/Cheney administration crimes could have been relayed to Republican leaders, a menu starting with less serious crimes (Hatch Act violations, crony capitalist no-bid contracts) and leading into much more serious crimes (torture, CIA agent outings, pre-9/11 scrutiny, Hurricane Katrina and New Orleans, pre-and post-invasion Iraq War. If Republicans balked, then a warning shot could have been fired in early 2009 with investigations/committee hearings being initiated into Bush/Cheney crimes on the lower part of the investigation menu. If Republicans still didn’t “get it,” then other items on the menu could be tapped, special prosecutors appointed, grand juries seated, committee hearings held, ordering Republicans from the Bush/Cheney administration to come in and testify under oath.
But top Democratic Party officials didn’t do this. They instead gave get-out-of-jail-free cards to all the Republicans, maintaining the status quo, the criminal conservative status quo, which can only lead to a repeat.
Of course, President Obama (and Sen. Reid…Speaker Pelosi will soon be history) could still fire a warning shot across the Republican bow, threatening Bush/Cheney administration investigations, which might get the attention of obstructionist Republicans, and help Democrats save our country, and improve the electoral chances of Democrats (including President Obama) in the 2012 elections. The last thing culture of corruption Republicans want is to see the Bush/Cheney can of worms opened, which is why Democrats could use this as leverage, helping Democrats get liberal progressive legislation passed and signed into law, helping American workers and the middle-class, while putting brakes on the apocalyptic-minded Republicans who obviously have a death wish for America and the future of our nation’s children.
Get tough Democrats. Give the culture of corruption and greed Republicans something to really scream about. Open up the Bush/Cheney can of worms. Play hardball. Don’t compromise. Force Republicans to capitulate for a change. And if they don’t, then open up the Bush/Cheney can of worms, and let the Constitution-protecting, democracy-saving investigations begin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
Here is the link. However two caveats.
1-This is a mostly tin foil hat conspiracy theory video.
2-However, they predicted mostly every single fucking Obama move.
3-They released this in march 2009. So they actually knew this shit since at least 2008.
The Obama Deception
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
If you want scary conspiracy theories of Obama’s stooge-corporate-lackeyness built on really solid facts read “Griftopia” and “The Mendacityof Hope” Two FDL approved Salon book choices.
It’s time for all Progressives/Liberals to start planning on limiting the damage Obama can do to the party while President and planning on taking the Congress for the Dems when Obama losses in 2012.
Schumer’s “close ties to Wall Street” (which Nancy Pelosi is also said to have, BTW) were part of the “what is the wrong with this picture” that drove me to my recent total disillusionment with the Demagogues. How can we trust a leadership that is beholden to the other side?
Thank you.
Bookmarked it.
Two and a half hours??? Is it really that good a film or are specific segements some would recommend?? Not against watching something 2 1/2 hours if it’s worth it, but rather not if it’s not.
Anyone who thinks a Harkin or Dean or some other person is going to take on the oligarchs and save the republic,must be suffering from clinical denial.Our only hope is that a Soros type will finance a real prog who runs as an independent with anti-corporate globalization values and is a proponent of a public option for campaign finance reform.
Ugh, the White House thinks does think its base is its fundraisers and not, well, its voters.
The Making Work Pay tax credit is $400 per worker ($800 per family) and costs $60 billion. Wipe the full $250 billion in Bush Tax Cuts and replace it with the Obama Tax Cuts, let’s see 250/60== a $1667 per worker tax credit.
New World Order…the Bush Family Plan 1984 see Rahm and GWHBUSH repeat it as a shock Doctrine tactic every single disaster is an opportunity to institute NWO. Watch it…they come out and say it.
Jerry Brown is a possibility – one needs a gov these days as Senators tend to not get elected Pres and when running in a primary against an incumbent one needs that “can get elected” theme.
Too many on the left would rather pretend than elect a woman – as Hillary found out after hearing over and over “I’d vote for a women – just not this women” (albeit she did get more primary votes than Obama, but our leaders pretended to not notice that or the games played at the caucuses in red states that put Obama into the delegate lead pre super delegate decisions).
Governor-Elect Andrew Cuomo is another possible choice.
Teddy Partridge is upstairs!
Sunday Late Night: TSA’s Blogger Bob Strikes a Blow for Truthiness
cuomo did such a great job not prosecuting any banksters after 2008.
What a joke.
Clinton raised taxes and the economy boomed for everybody. Bush lowered taxes (first because we had a surplus and then even more when the economy sucked) and the economy SUCKED. And back in the conservative “golden years” taxes had top rates of 90%.
But we’ve got to keep the Bush tax cuts because after all, these have worked SO WELL!
Obama’s a fucking idiot. Raise the GD taxes!
I watched this video some things seem accurate…but it is a scare work and opinion. Promises were broken but this is not a vehicle I would use.
It seems like there’s a lot of cognitive dissonance in not recognizing how this has turned into a fight over winning a 95% Bush Merit Badge versus winning a 100% Bush Merit Badge along with Obama already showing how he wants to cut the deficit with the Obama Catfood Commission. Obama is going to be looking to pay for the $3T to pay for the 95% Bush Merit Badge and you can bet he’ll be looking at Medicare and Social Security to pay for it. Extending the Bush Tax Cuts (whether 95% or 100% of them) isn’t worth it because of the chainsaws Obama and the Republicans are already working on going to town.
Maybe you missed it David, but the rank and file fought a lot on this BEFORE the election and it resulted in nothing.
Why on Earth would Obama continue to fight a battle that would continue to result in nothing. And, I note, it didn’t result in ANYTHING this past week either with Pelosi, Reid and Schumer giving it the guns.
In fact, the Dem’s are WORSE off the end of this week after pushing the argument you suggest all week.
Cut your losses, get to other issues where you CAN make a difference.
The battle was lost 6 months ago.
Thank you for bringing the movie “The Obama Deception” to our attention. EVERYONE should watch it.
no issue is as important as money to the GOP – and that should also be the priority on the left.
I saw your point of view in today’s talking heads – saying Obama should turn even harder right so as to capture the issues of the right – and don’t worry about the left because they are a bunch of losers – that have no place to go and will vote for Obama as the lessor of two evils in the end.
So where does the left put its energy if keeping the rich from stealing the country by under-paying their “fair share” is not important. Perhaps we try to get a 5 year phase out of DADT – tossing the near certain victory before then that we will have in the courts. Perhaps we demand a dime for the non-rich for every dollar given the rich. Perhaps we help sell the dual goal of no cuts in spending ever in return for no increases taxes on the rich – that should make the deficit hawks happy – but then we could compromise – using your logic, the Social Security battle was lost months ago when Obama decided to treat Social Security as welfare, picking a fellow that screams that thought 24/7 as head of his deficit commission, so we help kill Social Security in return for what? Just where should we put our energy?
Nobody won on this deal and the Demos are dumber than usual if they sign on to a temporary extension of the BUSH tax cut. When the cut expires they will once again have to come back to the Republicans and kiss some butts, look stupid and do another “temporary” extension of the Bush tax cuts.
Everybody knows Bush did a good thing for America with those tax cuts.
However, spending cuts, not increases should go along with the tax cuts.
OK, you want to extend unemployment? Fine. PAY for it from some other programs. I would start with foreign aid.
The deficit is going to kill us all financially and it does not look like the Republicans have the balls to tackle the problem, while the Demos want to make it worse.
If so, he would be doing us all a favor. Provided something better rises from the ashes of the party.
Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger says in regards to Barack Obama: “You have India, Pakistan; you have the jihadist movement. So he can’t really say there is one problem, that it’s the most important one. But he can give new impetus to American foreign policy partly because the reception of him is so extraordinary around the world. His task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period when, really, a NEW WORLD ORDER can be created. It’s a great opportunity, it isn’t just a crisis.”
Obama would give you half his chips before even playing then walk away from the table declaring himself the winner.
No, Bush did NOT do a “good thing” for America with the tax cuts.
Taxes = government revenue.
Tax cuts = less government revenue.
The last thing we need at a time when unemployment is high and we are are in a severe recession bordering on a depression is to further hurt citizens and put even more on the streets with further spending cuts.
Another Baracken Promise, but the rich friends everywhere are happy – higher walls around the mansions, moats even, and a Rolls for the cook, as well (the last one’s a joke, because the cook is illegal and works for room, board and off one day a month). This is his way, the Third Way.
A tax credit for hiring people ???
Corporations already make money off of their employees.
More endless corporate welfare from Obama.
If it comes to that, he just should not sign the bill, until the unemployment benefits have been passed, too, but then… he might not think of that.
Pretty poor poker player, indeed!
David Kuttner gets it…and nails it in this piece from HuffPo:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-kuttner/what-now-for-the-democrat_b_792301.html
The only points with which I disagree, are that Obama can “grow some backbone” and salvage his catastrophic presidency. I think it’s far too late for that.
And, that he will be ALLOWED to run again, in 2012.
In 18 months he’s going to be the political equivalent of genital lesions, and there will be a lot of dems motivated by nothing but the desire to try to hang onto their jobs and perks, who, if he tries to run again, will scorn him so ferociously and publicly that it will be out of the question. It will tear the democratic party to pieces if he seeks a second term.
Hillary Clinton doomed her chances for the presidency, with her “savvy” decision to try to get rid of the librul stain by sucking up to the conservatives and running to the right of Obama.
Which is why practically every progressive organization of any size and influence turned their backs on her.
“…he’s such a team player that I don’t know if he could be convinced to run.”
Good point, Margaret.
I happen to believe that in about a year-and-a-half, he could look at things and decide that as one democrat with a lot respect left in the rank-and-file of the party, and particularly, with progessives, he can’t NOT run. It’ll be just that bad.
Of course, the GOP can and will capitalize on the horseshit that Obama’s presidency was a catastrophe because he was and “activist liberal” of a president. Thanks to Mr. Centrist, that’s a strike against any democrat in the next election.
Compare job creation and tax rates under Clinton to job creation and tax rates under Bush. Compare Clinton’s surplus to Bush’s deficits. It’s simply not true that we need tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans in order to increase hiring and stimulate the economy.
Right now, corportations are flush with cash, productivity is up (ie – we’re working out butts off), and no one is hiring. If the tax cuts are extended to all income groups, hiring will rise little, if at all. Businesses will still hold off on hiring and then blame it on uncertainty about health care. In the meantime, Repugnants will look for ways to cut programs to pay for an extension of unemployment benefits. Those cuts will be to programs that will of course affect only those most in need. It’s a false argument that we need tax cuts at the top in order to revive the economy, but passing them will surely erode the current safety net – piteous though it already is.
So, it’s essentially a tax break to the wealthiest paid by the poorest. This is insane, and it’s due to a total lack of leadership at the top.
Uncle Tom Barack, your first black Republican President… and as corporate as he can be…