The New York Times calculates that a large portion of the benefits in the tax cut deal will flow to the middle and upper-middle class. Because the Social Security payroll tax phases out at $106,000, those in the upper-middle class benefit as much from that as billionaires. And the AMT patch saves these families from paying a large tax. “And other provisions that benefit the middle class have gotten virtually no attention, including a temporary repeal of a limit on itemized deductions and repeal of the phaseout for personal exemptions,” they add. “Together, those tax breaks will cost nearly $21 billion.”
Setting aside the fact that the AMT patch always gets done – it was even in the stimulus – I think this makes the mistake of looking at raw dollars versus per-capita spending. Because on a per-person basis, clearly the rich make out better than anyone. That’s because Washington exists to pay off the rich so we can give a crumb to everyone else. It’s a model of a government captured by oligarchs.
That doesn’t mean you can’t make an argument that, as a result of this deal, a couple million people will stay out of poverty. The refundable tax credits in particular are extremely helpful to needy families. But that’s really a narrow view of this deal. After all, the Child Tax Credit was in the Pledge to America, and would certainly have been kept at the same level as current law in the next Republican budget. And the payroll tax cut does such potential damage to Social Security, and actually raises taxes above current law to the working poor, and provides more benefit based on income, that you have to see it as a Republican idea, as the Republicans did.
All that help for the rich that is the backbone of this deal will not go to create jobs, by the way. At least not in America.
According to a November 20 article in The New York Times,”Well-heeled American investors have been doing something lately that they resisted for decades – becoming more like their European, Asian and Latin American counterparts and substantially diversifying their portfolios outside their home country.”
The Times adds, “The people putting as much as 40 percent of their portfolios into nondollar investments are quite wealthy.”
Even if they invest much of their Bush tax cut windfalls in American stocks, bonds, and hedge funds, they are doing little to create jobs, although they are receiving a lot of profit. Much of today’s large corporate profitability comes from off shoring jobs to the cheapest labor markets and downsizing American jobs to the maximum amount.
Increasingly, American corporations that do sell goods have them manufactured overseas (the vast majority of consumer electronic technology is made and assembled abroad), making profits from domestic consumer purchase of items produced outside of the United States. In short, increased consumer demand in many economic sectors means more jobs abroad, fewer at home, and increased working- and middle-class debt in America.
You may think that this bribe to the rich is worth it, because of the short-term “boost” to the economy. I find that to be flawed thinking about the real nature of this balance-sheet recession. More likely you just turn public debt into private debt as people deleverage and pay off their bills. Those give real benefits to the consumer, but there’s a major cost involved as well.



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Doesn’t this go right to Mark Penn’s argument about (yeah!) we’re the new Party of the upper middle class. And, so long as we’re pro-immigration, pro-choice, and pro-gay rights we don’t have to give a rats ass about bread and butter economic issues. Implicit in his argument is we afford to lose our share of the the white working class(who came out for Obama big time in ’08), and African Americans will stick with us even if they are disproportionately the ones we stick it to when we walk away from modest progressive taxation.
This seems to be the evolving governing philosophy of this administration, though clearly they’ll have to step it up on the social issues. This is poison for the Democratic Party.
We have one political party in this country, and it exists to serve the rich.
But it’s always been that way – the only thing that’s changing is the rest of us are starting to realize it, too.
Penn’s argument is sound except that this time the class(warfare) issue is begining to take hold. That’s new in modern politics and the oligarchy has no answer for it and never has had. Peace
This is not poison to the Democratic Party..but it could be poison to the progressive left wing ultra liberal socialist fringe, which is a GOOD thing.
Just as getting the ultra right wing religous fringe out of the Republican party was a good thing.
Preserving free market capitalism and rights of the individual are of the utmost importance.
Something else that’s never discussed (except in passing by Ron Paul) is the question of who benifits from the interest paid on our national debt. The Chinese and Saudis get only a small portion of it. The money lenders (FED) get the lions share. So is it actually advantages for the oligarchy if “we the peole” pay off the national debt? Peace
What free market capitalism, exactly? You don’t read much, do ya Rush?
“Preserving free market capitalism….(is)are of the utmost importance.” You’re kidding right? Peace
The AMT patch and the estate tax exemption fix are invitations for future bargaining because they are not indexed for inflation. And when bracket creep starts to affect the upper middle class, there will be political pressure for eliminating the AMT and eliminating or lowering the rates on the estate tax. And the big question is where is the gift tax in all this, the favorite mechanism of estate planners.
T didn’t find it a sound argument. I found it soulless. I hope that Democrats have stronger principles than, well, I got mine.
When exactly did that happen?
Total agreement with your comment from this reader.
It is a Dooh Nibor tax that robs from the poor and gives to the rich. And it runs around $300 billion a year (minus that sent to China and other sovereign purchasers of US debt).
Huh? So giving up on bread and butter issues, the cornerstone of the Democratic platform, is a good idea to you, correct?
Class warfare is like any other warfare:
The winners get to claim moral superiority and to label the losers “warmongers.”
Oliphant nails it with a good ‘toon:
http://news.yahoo.com/comics/pat-oliphant
Only, I haven’t heard Obama protesting any, about the “fit”.
Penn is making a strategic argument related to getting contributions and paying strategist like Mark Penn. That hardly qualifies as analysis.
So the well-heeled saw the end of Bush Tax Rates coming and started moving investments elsewhere.
Those crying about the “tax cuts” adding an extra $1T to the debt are assuming the well-heeled would leave their investmens in the US and pay higher Obama era taxes. More likely they’ll pull out and pay no taxes, rather than higher rates. What does that do to the debt?
I thought Mark Penn was a glorified pollster with delusions of grandeur.
With HCR as a prototype, Obama’s deals are becoming formulaic: give bulk of the benefits to the extremely wealthy, a sop to the extremely poor: (
and the rest of the population gets screwed in the long term. The administration, as a parting shot, makes sure to lump anyone who disagees with them into the sanctimonious purity camp.
Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
I think that there is a growing group of Democrats who are hearing the whispers of these pollsters in their ears making the argument Penn makes here, and they are making policy decisions based on it. Like trading the Make Work Pay credit for a payroll holiday and extending the Bush tax cuts.
The Democrats have no principles or only those principles that mesh with the thinking of the wealthy oligarachy. The poor on the other hand have the numbers. Let’s wait and see who eventually comes out on top shall we? Peace
With this tax mess almost behind them, Hoyer’s all set to go on the Catfood commission recommendations:
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/133337-hoyer-prioritizes-deficit-tax-code-reform-in-speech
Where’s our cut? Peace
NYT had that article but Krugman in his oped piece today refuted the benefit as temporary and the cost as devasting to deficit reduction. After 2011 the economy will be in worse shape. Household debt ration are over 118$of income and have to be reduced to free up consumer spending. It is not possible to continue the transfer of wealth to the wealthy in a consumer driven economy. The Oligarch is eating itself.
NAFTA….SHAFTA….GRAFTA – Pretty much sums up our state of politics today!
So much for free market capitalism!
I honestly never thought I would see President Clinton and President Obama endorsing President Bush’s tax cuts for billionaires. And Bush was just a continuation of Ronnie Ragun’s trickle down BS.
America is dead. The corporations won.
The Dems are being played for such fools right now. Do they NOT think people are onto their tricks and chicanery? The catfood commission insulates and isolates them from taking primary responsibility (that’s what ad hoc commissions do …. justify what the leader has already decided needs to be done). The next day, seemingly incredulously, Obama cuts the tax deal which increases the very deficit which the catfood commission says needs cutting. Hmmmm….there’s a pony in here somewhere…..
Which when this war is done will put the right people in their correct places for once in history. Peace
Of course, the amount of doubletalk doesn’t erase this material fact that now Obama and the Democrats will OWN these tax cuts for the rich.
Obama got tremendous mileage from excoriating Bush for increasing the deficit and giving his cronies tax breaks for 10 years. He used it at every campaign whistlestop. Maybe this is why from one side of his mouth he utters “I do not believe in extending the Bush tax cuts for the rich” and on the other side he’s uttering “but I’ve cut a tax deal with the enemy to do just that”.
No more WTF moments for me. Now I know the game. Fool me once, as they say….
Let’s see what his popularity numbers look like next week.
The oligarchy owns all of the ponies. But, they’ll give you one if you’ll help them eliminate the Social Security System. Peace
“Obama Tax Cuts for the Wealthy”…..coming soon (January) to a theatre near you.
Happy Holidays, all!
Hypocrisy at its finest.
“Santimonious Purists” are we…..and I’m damn proud of it, too!
I was reading the bill this morning and I saw that the middle class cuts are permanent. Why is that bit being reported?
Now is the time for a People Movement, a Liberal Movement!
Progressives we need to view what happen Friday closely!
KO says the senate servers crashed on FRIDAY, due to Bernie Sanders
Remember, the MSM did not discuss Bernie Sanders speech.
(abc, cbs, msnbc, nbc, fox, nyt, etc. just got a huge wake up call, they no longer control the news of the day, this scares them)
When you look at it this way, any Dem in the house and the senate with a little common sense, must be afraid of what can happen in 2012.
remember GOOD KABUKI is suppose to fool people, not make people laugh
the elites now know, they are not the only ones controlling the news now.
Just as getting the ultra right wing religous fringe out of the Republican party was a good thing.
When did that happen?
Kumari. Define “Progressive”. Define “left wing”.
There are no tax cuts and there are no tax increases. Nothing will change…other than support for Barry and the majority of the wimpy, greedy, congressional cowards…the Dems.
Isn’t that what a “Democratic strategist” really is?
Excellent! And peace to you.
The upper middle class that I know did more to sell out the working class there move to upper middle class in a big part was from cutting benifits frezeing pay cutting pay of the labor force.
If there was any reason to condone torture it would be so that the rich could be compelled into telling the truth about what they are doing to the U.S. and that it is a conscious plan. Just admit it. That’s all I want.
Anyone can easily see that those who make more money will ALWAYS benefit from any kind of tax cut because THEY PAY MORE IN TAXES.
Really, it is that simple. Conversely, they will ALWAYS be hurt more by any tax increase.
Same as in a union. The most senior people will always benefit more from a 3% pay boost at the start of a new contract or year than the new person because THEY MAKE more.
Does that make the person with seniority a bad person or getting something he ought not to get?
No.
This type of “analysis” is hardly worth even responding to except so many people are snookered by it.
Yeah- rimarily because this is someone from the other side of the aisle Masslib. They actually LOSE when the Democrats actually run the economy correctly.
Jon Walker has a fresh cross-post ready: With $900 Billion in Tax Cuts, Many Working Americans Will Still See Taxes Rise
You don’t address how the income is earned. Personally, I find labor far more productive then the Wall Street gamblers who consistently inflate bubbles and expect the rest of us to pay for their folly. I’ve been watching for years while the market would cheer the unemployment of Americans. Frankly if I could tax these people 90% I would.
That, like the rest of that post, was bullshit of course.
Guessing you knew that though.
Hope all’s well with you and yours.
Thom Hartmann today is saying that regardless of what he said LAST WEEK, it’s time to shut up, quit throwing stones, and get behind the President on the tax cut deal. You see, Obama needs “a win” on this to get re-elected and we all must work for Obama’s re-election.
Funny how with Thom, no matter the melodrama, the ending’s always the same.
A scaffold?
I have never been open to a third party; never been willing to accept years or decades of electoral losses that a third party will inevitably face.
I am now.
The Democratic party is no longer anything that a FDR/Kennedy Democrat like me recognizes as democratic (in either the lowercase “D” or the uppercase sense of the word.)
I am still a Democrat (though I may call myself something else from now on); they are not. They are the liberal wing of the Republican party, I am no longer represented.
They no longer represent the working class and the poor; they are equally interested in filling the prisons with, stigmatizing and harassing harmless pot smokers; they prefer the loose labor market and the docile wage and health insurance slaves it creates.
There still are progressives in the party. I am begging you to leave with me and form a populist progressive party to be a coalition of Greens, socialists and other forgotten Democratic constituencies.
It should be fairly easy to come up with an agenda that virtually all progressives can support. Worker’s rights, civil rights, woman’s rights, the environment, productive jobs (Building a nationwide high speed rail system, for example, could create literally millions of un-exportable jobs, and since shipping costs are integral to any business and be a tremendous financial boon, as were the dams that still provide cheap electricity and the interstate highway system. It could also be electric and powered largely by windmills and solar panels along the tracks.), ending the drug war and others.
Meanwhile, it’s time to relearn what the abolitionists, the unionists, the civil rights marchers, and the antiwar protesters have repeatedly proved: Until you take it to the streets, the politicians know that they can safely ignore you.
Yeah, Hartmann thinks it’s all about Supreme Court appointees. At this point appointments are meaningless. If the Dems had wanted to they could have rejected Roberts, Alito etc. Breaking news, a Federal judge has just ruled Obama’s Health Insurance reform is unconstitutional. Stay tuned.
In France the government fears the people. In the U.S. the government ignores the people. Until those in government fear the people nothing changes.
Why did I waste all those words, lol?
Well put.
I joined the Green Party USA the day Obama signed the Health Insurance Give-away Bill.
Think of the Green Party as if you’re buying a second-hand house or a used car. Think of it as a “fixer-upper” with a lot of potential.
Hartmann says it’s about the Supreme Court. It could be about the slapping around he got off-the-air from the White House when he was “disprespectful” to their spokesman on Friday’s show.
The Greens are certainly a legitimate and viable party in much of Europe but then they have an educated and sophisticated public that believes in science and the notion of the “commons” for all the people.
Perhaps if he grovels enough they’ll let him back into the club.
Wasn’t O’s press conference a disgusting circus? Claiming to be sternly against extending the low taxes for the rich, while simultaneously fighting vigorously for it, going so far as to drag out Clinton to steal Bernie Sanders’ thunder, going so far as to call out the usual shills to talk it up, touting ultra-right-wing proposals as if they were progressive ideas…just disgusting.
The vile tyranny and it’s brazen smirks disgust me beyond words.
I actually favor the Greens, but would favor any progressive party that seemed likely to gain enough momentum to actually elect candidates. I agree that right now, the Greens seem the best option.
Main thing, I don’t want to exclude groups like socialists that are wedded to their own label and agenda.
(meant as a reply to medicinecat @55)
The thing about Hartmann I find troubling is his insistence to change the Democratic Party from within. I say pressure the party from the outside via direct action.
Obama is a trickle downer. He’ll pee on your head and say that one shouldn’t be angry in a time of drought.
Change from within only works for the oligarchs and their well-funded Trojan Horse candidates. Ask McGovern.
and confirmed by Obama.
The Wall Street banksters and their select clients got richer by gutting the housing market and trading derivatives amongst themselves: nobody else is allowed to look into their schemes or play in their games, which amount to hundreds of times the size of our economy — all without producing a single tangible item. Then their mistakes are transferred to the general public, and they give themselves bonuses to keep up the good work. There should be a windfall profits tax to take back some of their ill-gotten gains; instead, they will get tax breaks on top of bonuses. What a racket.
I agree with you. But if I take to the streets, I lose my job and won’t be able to get another. In a corporate state, if lose your job, you’re done for.
Until there is a safety net we can rely upon, too many will not be in a position to do anything other than squawk. But, events indicate that the safety nets are being dismantled.
Soon, I believe our ability to squawk will be curtailed as well.
It seems that we the people need new safety nets, independent of government and industry.
I think most readers here would agree that this country is under the control of fascism, or is mostly on it’s way to fascism. Since fascism is a tyrannical merging of government and industry, we need a safety net that is independent of both. Tyrants don’t give assistance, not without terrible longs strings attached. And tyrants destroy all who might be in a position to oppose.
Without a safety net, the best many of us can hope for is to successfully live out the remainder of our lives without the tyrant looking under the rock we hide beneath.
A few statements that do not require proof because they are self- evident or are now beyond reasonable doubt:
2 + 2 = 4
The average near-surface air and oceans temperature is increasing
I think, therefore I am
America’s party duopoly serves the interests of big capital
For years I’ve held the belief that tyrants wish to be worshipped by those they despise, and wish to be despised by those who worship them.
Obama has done nothing at all to change that belief. In fact, he has reinforced it. His combination of lies, betrayals, collusions, and pretty speeches made it clear.
http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm
We have arrived and I don’t like it.
Everyone should take a moment to read this article:
No Act of Rebellion Is Wasted
Thom actually flip-flopped again in the last hour of his show! Now he’s against it after he was for it after he was against it!
I think that soda-pop dispenser he’s been doing testimonial ads for has sent a dizzying dose of carbonation to his brain.
Here’s a good cartoon that sums it up.