This was the trade made in the Senate last night; the Dems will get legislative repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, a couple judges, and probably the new START Treaty, and the Republicans will get the chance to massively cut spending early in the 112th Congress.
If I’m a Republican, I take that trade.
This all came about last night, when several Senate Republicans on the Appropriations Committee picked up the football, and informed Harry Reid that they would renege on their support of the $1.1 trillion dollar omnibus spending bill which they had worked on for close to a year. Because Republicans signaled a willingness to filibuster the omnibus, even if the government shut down as a result, Reid suddenly didn’t have the votes for anything but a short-term continuing resolution, probably for two months until February 18. The angry exchanges from Democrats were obvious on the floor last night, but in the end, the Republicans got a big win.
Durbin barked under his breath at McConnell, but ultimately vented his frustrations through Reid. “I would like to ask the Majority Leader, does he recall the time when I returned from the Appropriations Committee and said that Senator McConnell had come to the committee and said that he was going to establish the maximum amount that he would vote for in all the appropriations bill…$1.108 trillion?” said Durbin in a veiled accusation of hypocrisy. “And I said to the Majority Leader, I think ultimately that’s what we’re going to be voting for is Senator McConnell’s number?”
Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) weighed in. “We had to cut the money to meet the [Republican] level…and that’s what we have before us and that’s what we’re being told, after a year’s worth of work, that somehow we don’t have the capability of knowing what’s in this bill.”
Minutes later, in one of the most chortling colloquies of the 111th Congress, Sens. John McCain (R-AZ) and Mark Kirk (R-IL) gloated over the defeat of the spending bill.
Kirk, the most junior member of the Senate asked, “Did we just win?”
McCain responded, “I think there’s very little doubt that the Majority Leader of the United States Senate would not have taken the action he just took if we didn’t have 41 votes to stop this monstrosity.”
In a sign of how things will go in the near future, Reid gave up on the omnibus, but in the process, he scheduled two cloture votes, on the DREAM Act and the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. Both came back from the Senate with a “privileged” message, so they require only one cloture vote. How it will apparently work is that DREAM will get the first cloture vote. If it passes, it gets 30 hours of debate, and a final vote. If it fails, the Senate will move directly to DADT repeal. This will happen on Saturday morning, with a final vote for whatever passes on Sunday night or Monday morning.
Typically, when votes are “stacked” like this (I put that in quotes because the votes are not technically stacked), it means that the first one is expected to fail. None of the whip counts for the DREAM Act I’ve seen get to 60, even though two Republicans – Robert Bennett and Richard Lugar – have pledged support. If it did get to 60 it would knock out the DADT repeal vote until possibly Monday. And Ron Wyden (D-OR) will undergo prostate cancer surgery that day, and will be out of the Senate for much for next week. This puts a priority on getting things done over the weekend. Wyden will be on the Senate floor this weekend for votes.
This is all very good news for DADT repeal. There was a sense that the White House was stalling that vote in the Senate, being more interested in the new START treaty. They certainly are, and using fierce advocacy to do it, but constrained by Wyden and looking at a short calendar, the Senate went its own way. DADT repeal appears to have the votes in hand, and Harry Reid made the decision that he would get a consolation prize out of this.
There were a couple other consolation prizes. The Senate confirmed four federal judges last night, out of the 38 on the executive calendar. These four had been waiting the longest for the Senate to act. A Reid spokesman said the four confirmations were “just the start” of eliminating the backlog of judicial nominees. In addition, the omnibus had some pretty bad measures attached to it, including a second engine for the F-35 and a ban on civilian trials for Guantanamo detainees. Both of those won’t happen, at least not in the near future. Also, Jay Rockefeller no longer has a good vehicle for his amendment to stop the EPA from carbon regulation. The fact that he’s talking about “suspending the rules” to attach the measure to something, which would require a 2/3 vote, is very good news. Rockefeller may have close to 60 votes to block EPA regulations, but he doesn’t have 67. Kay Bailey Hutchison’s anti-net neutrality amendment has no legislative vehicle now, either.
But in general, while Reid played hardball after the fact, this is a classic Lucy with the football moment. There were two major things to move in the lame duck, according to Republicans: the tax cuts, and funding the government. They now got what they wanted out of both. For some insane reason, Democrats didn’t insist on those two measures moving together, so Republicans couldn’t pull back their support of the omnibus like they did last night. One could have been a condition of the other.
Instead, Republicans will have a chance in February of next year to set spending levels. The Democrats could have pushed this off until October, and could have written it into the tax cut deal as well. They failed to do that. And if anyone thinks that the result will not be a slashing of vital social safety net spending, take a look at how Reid folded last night, trading other priorities. The “stimulus” from the tax cut deal is GONE. It’ll be gone by February, at least. Republicans are fulfilling the Norquistian promise of lowering taxes massively, and then using that lack of revenue as a pretext to cut social spending. That’s what’ll happen in February. And the debt limit vote provides just another opportunity.
The only way out of this is for the President to say today, after singing the tax cut bill, “Now we need to give time for the tax cuts to work. Therefore, I will veto any bill that reduces spending across the government for this year and the next, because we must keep aggregate demand high.”
Anyone want to place bets on that happening?




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David, it’s sanctimonious cynicism like this that is destroying out country. Clap louder!
Democrats in DC: committed to driving the country into a ditch more slowly than Republicans.
but even more deeply into the ditch by de-funding regular peoples’ safety net.
Obama, we don’t forget this kind of betrayal for short-term political “gain”.
Bye-bye science, NASA, medicare, state aid, AIDS funding, infrastructure, everything but unending war and subsidies for big business.
David, correct me if I’m wrong but another “minor” fook you to the Repugs was that Reid, by taking the Omnibus bill off the floor, also removed all of those Repug earmarks they wanted but wouldn’t now vote for.
As I said, a “minor” fook you to the Repugs, because they’ll probably turn right around and sneak them back into legislation in the new Congress.
Absolutely. There’s nothing about NASA or AIDS funding in the Constitution™.
Now, war on the other hand …
Good,morning, Margaret.
Looks like you got your looky forwardy Official American History anticipators workin’ real fine, today.
I tell ya, Carlin is someplace lovin’ yer stuff.
I know I am, and I ain’t anywheres in particular, these days.
Well, I do spend a lot of time in disgust, but that’s only ‘cuz I’m passin’ through on muh way to the revolution, next time.
DW
Nice the Dems have their priorities straight. No one cares if the middle class is becoming impoverished, as long as the gays have the right to HAVE AT THOSE BASTARDS!
As I was saying late in your earlier post David, and rephrasing here, all this is total kabuki, intended on keeping us away from the essential, inescapable fact: we don’t matter any more.
See this link:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/07/27/american_people_obsolete
Will you PLEASE give it a rest? Or at least come up with a new fucking comment and link.
I’m just wondering how the right wingers that dominate the comment threads over at space.com are going to blame the gutting of NASA on the Democrats. They aren’t of course, nearly deep enough to understand the kabuki dance.
Delaying this bill until the new Congress comes to town is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Peace
As I understand it, the Dems have once again traded their birthright for a mess of pottage.
The Repubs want to stomp us, the Dems aren’t interested in helping us, and no one can get it together to start a third party. That leaves us no options beyond taking what we’re handed, I suppose.
Is being shallow the equivalknt of being full of pablum?
There are always options. I just don’t know how far people are going to have to be pushed until we start exploring them.
expatriation.
Well yeah, those are the priorities after all.
Remember when Sarah Palin resoundingly dissed some CDC study re fruit flies as being wasteful pork barrel spending, and she mocked and derided it as stupid??? Yet that same study of fruit flies inured to the benefit of people with Downes syndrome.
Quite agree. Many options exist, and we need to start exploring them now.
you’re all sanctimonious racist fucking retards who are purists and want a pony.
OFA told me so.
Our Prez believes that when households are tightening their belts, government should do the same. He’s said it many times.
It’s Hurbert Hoover time.
Yes, DADT is going to be repealed.
And it’s a GREAT thing. A wonderful, thing. The RIGHT thing.
But they’re doing it for all the wrong reasons.
They’ve concluded that they can go as far right on economic policies as they want to as long as throw the occasional social issue bone out there. I realize my characterization of ending DADT as a “bone” may upset folks, but I’m just saying to THEM it’s a bone because it doesn’t cost anything. To them it’s a bone.
They’re well aware of what the tax bill did, and of what the “lesser” peeps feel about it, and so now they’ve decided to throw us that social issue.
I know LOT’s of good folks will disagree with me, probably vehemently, but IMO they can shove all of those social issue “bones” up their collective asses because there just is NO social justice WITHOUT economic justice.
What good are rights, any rights, if you can’t afford to eat to enjoy them?
Especially science. Jindal used scare quotes to describe volcano monitoring. All of the liberals got a good laugh out of that but mostly the wingers were nodding along with it.
“Bone” was probably the wrong word to have used in this context. But you are correct otherwise. Peace
Oh, and BTW, to all of those that touted that “vote” last Thursday where the House Democrats “refused to support the tax compromise.”
You might be interested to know that the bill that passed the House is the exact same bill they SAID they wouldn’t bring to the floor.
Remember, watch what they DO, not what they SAY.
You are prolly gonna get flamed, OFG, but honest, thoughtful, and human perspective agrees with you …
Sad, that … and yet “things” and people are THAT desperate …
DW
The wingers nod at everything. Especially when you tell them that they will burn in hell unless they support the Republicans because the Democrats are devils out to eat their young. They got that “eat their young” language from the fascists in Germany in the 30′s and 40′s. Peace
I don’t want a pony, but I’ll wear all the rest of that like a badge of honor.
That’s not ALL they got from the fascists in Germany in the 30′s and 40′s. They’re running that old playbook from A to Z. From nationalism to fear. From democracy to fascism.
Assholes.
Fierce advocates of not prosecuting war crimes, torture and despotic indictments of people who expose the US government’s lawlessness.
Why next week OFG, right here, on FDL, a whole bunch of those critters who voted “yes” on the “tax-bill”, will be lionized as people who care about people …
Trust me, I feel yer pain.
DW
Is this the same Durbin that just a short tie ago endorsed the findings of the Cat Food Commission?
McConnell and I now have something in common. I want the heartless bastard in the White House to have only one term. I also want him politically ruined to the point there will be no 6 figure speaking fees because no one gives a rat’s ass what he has to say.
The 99ers, and those who soon will be (there will be 2 million of them in the next few weeks) don’t exist:
Yeah, but as long as we keep shouting the truth to the heavens, more and more and more folks will see it.
The folks here at FDL are mostly hip to those facts, but the really encouraging thing to me is that around the blogosphere more and more are becoming hip.
It’s important to keep doing this. Whether our way out of this is electoral or non-conventional, we’re going to need to change as many hearts and minds as we can to give us the best chance at winning.
I truly fear what this country, no, this world, will be like for my grandchildren if we don’t fight.
And thanks for your words of wisdom DW. Always welcome, and a bit soothing. Appreciate that.
Peace
Joe
OldFatGuy
Isn’t that the vaccuum guy?
You trust the Senate Republicans not to stop the continuing resolution too?
That bit of controversy could derail DADT repeal, START, and the DREAM Act. And leave the government without budget authority until January 5. Those agencies that have squirreled away some FY 2009 money can still operate. The Afghanistan war and the occupation of Iraq will go on. TSA, without budget authority, will do what for Christmas travel?
How much to Republicans want a Christmas holiday and how much do they want to continue to whip their byotches?
Wanna bet? In February, I promise you McConnell will argue on the floor of the Senate that defense spending needs to be increased to compensate for the added special needs due to repeal of DADT. Seperate housing and such, psychological services, more condoms, etc. He’ll look this country straight in the face and blame us for him HAVING to increase defense spending.
With forty cents of every federal dollar coming from borrowed money, enormously deep cuts will come.
Bring home all troops stationed overseas. All of them. Now!
60% of the defense budget has to go
NASA has to go – we can’t afford it
The departments of Energy, Agriculture and Education have to go
HUD and HHS have to go
Medicaid has to go
Medicare and Social Security have to be fixed but will remain.
Nobody and I mean nobody is going to like the reality of paying as we go.
DADT is the MOST important issue Obama betrayed us on – unless he gets it repealed – then it’s WHO CARRES – this is for short-term political gain! The FireDogLeft strikes again!
Full scale revolt going on at C&L too.
Your comment is awaiting moderator approval – isn’t that the signpost towards the fdl censor heap?
Jane has a fresh cross-post up: DCCC IE Spending Averaged 61% More For Male Incumbents in 2010 Than Female
I’m with you. Think we could fit all that on the front of a Professional Left ID Card?
Any Progressive that has followed Obama, Harry, Nancy, and the phony Dems the last couple of months can’t be that upset, these clowns did pass the BOB DOLE health care bill in a DEPRESSION.
We Progressives need to understand this simple truth, the WORLD has never been changed by a group of people, it has always been changed by a person with a vision, that empowers people to follow them. The same will be the case here.
Simply put Progressives can’t get upset about any of this KABUKI, because as of right now, there are no PROGRESSIVES in DC, fighting for our cause and beliefs.
Obama just made it very easy to fix this problem, 23 Dems senators need progressive help to get re-elected in 2012. (progressives need to prepare some Kabuki dances for these 23 Dem Senators)
for example progressives should volunteer to help these clowns in their primaries.
go to their office get all the flyers and signs you can, and take them to closest garbage can you can find! :) this will make you feel AWESOME
Look at the bright side
the DNC is not going to be calling progressives anytime soon asking for money
Obama For America is a joke, and should this close their doors
My understanding is that although it is billed as being repeal, it is in fact not a repeal. It establishes a series of hoops, which if jumped through, may end enforcement of some provisions of DADT without actually repealing DADT, while leaving the door wide open for the next social conservative to reinstate DADT.
And, it would apparently fall to the heads of each military branch to decide if and when they wish to cease enforcing DADT. So in other words, it ain’t gonna happen even if the Dems figure out a dance that lets them claim to be fierce advocates.
So if I have read it right, there really is no DADT repeal, even if the legislation billed as such is successfully enacted.
But, it could be called Stealth DADT or Delayed DADT.
Instead of getting kicked out right away, those who serve openly are likely to get kicked out after a few extra months instead.
I still have no faith in anything that comes from the Senate or WH, DADT "repeal" included. If they manage to pass something, it will be hailed in the media as the triumphant return of beloved Progressive Obama, while in reality it will be just another gift-wrapped package of bullshit.
“The angry exchanges from Democrats were obvious on the floor last night, but in the end, the Republicans got a big win.”
”
Charles Krauthammer…
The entire Bush clan have been fascists for 100 years. Prescott loved him some Adolf. And in the Biblical way as well if you know what I mean. Peace
“need to change as many hearts and minds as we can”
I wish it were that easy. I’ve been re-reading Upton Sinclair’s “The Moneychangers.” It could very well have been written last year. The hearts and minds cannot be changed because an uninformed, uneducated citizenry is more manageable. Not much has changed for progressives in the last 100 years except we’ve lost more power.
Sorry to piss on your Cheerios, but last night’s tax vote enraged me damn near as much as hcr.
Right back at ya, OFG.
Your perspective coincides, quite precisely, with mine.
We will NEVER give up.
DW
Because I care sooooooooooooo much what Krauthammer thinks…..
When Krauthammer reads his own words in print, even he can see what a total dumbass he is.
I think most of our government is now run by the children of those “people” ( or those who sympathized with them)who emigrated after WWII.
2cents
Full episode of last night’s The Daily Show. Stewart Exposes GOP hypocrisy on the 9/11 responder issue.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/thu-december-16-2010-mike-huckabee
Obama Seeks to Make Amends With Unions Over Tax Deal
“President Barack Obama today will meet with union leaders to try to heal a relationship strained by his agreement to extend Bush-era tax cuts. Behind the scenes, the White House is waging a broader campaign among Democratic Party loyalists to undo damage over the deal.
The administration is making an “all hands on deck” effort to contact party activists angry over the accord, Jared Bernstein, Vice President Joseph Biden’s chief economic adviser, said before the U.S. House last night passed the $858 billion bill. Bernstein has made phone calls and held meetings with activists to defend a deal with Republicans that continues tax reductions for all Americans, including top earners. ”
Does this mean he won’t gut Social Security and every other social program?
Ya mean capitulate to the fucking r*t*rded, sanctimonious, professional left? No, it means to expect more smoke to be blown up our asses.
Same here. Especially considering it was the same bill that just a week ago the Democrats SAID they wouldn’t allow onto the floor to even be voted on.
They’re so blatantly lying and not giving a fuck about us now that the only ones still defending them may not be reachable. They may be too far down the rabbit hole.
I don’t read many other sites but I wonder what excuses they’re offering today for passing the SAME bill they said they wouldn’t allow onto the floor a week ago.
reid is probably only doing obama’s bidding by doing the kabuki thing … voluntarily getting “trapped” and “outmaneuvered” to accept measures from obama’s deficit commission that obama wanted but the commission wasn’t able to get the 14 out of their 18 votes to force a vote on.
Z
I haven’t read the official version, nor do I care to. But I imagine it will be the same fucking song and dance we’ve heard over and over. “It really, really was the best we could do.” Ya know bipartisanship, compromise, common ground and all that shit we’ve been fed for two fucking years.
NPR just said the Dems (appropriate abbreviation)had to pass the tax cuts because the Repukes (also appropriate)would be in power in January. How exactly does that work?
Harry is now a wholy owned subsidiary of Obama’s. Obama now refers to him as “Harry the magic white boy.” Peace
The power of the oligarchy, like its wealth, is passed from one generation to the next. Hence the desire for a 0% estate tax. Peace
START, DADT, judges. The Democrats didn’t get anything of monetary value. Yep, those wiley Dems can really make a trade.