After the world turned away and thought the protests in Egypt over and a smooth transition to democracy under torturer-in-chief Omar Suleiman assured, everyone forgot one thing: the view of the protesters. They have actually stepped up their protests, blocking the entrance to Parliament and forcing the new Mubarak cabinet to convene elsewhere. The biggest rallies were previously reserved for Tahrir Square, but the new focus on Parliament represents a change in tactics. In addition, workers have gone on strike across the country.
In the most potentially significant action, about 6,000 workers at five service companies owned by the Suez Canal Authority — a major component of the Egyptian economy — began a sit-in on Tuesday night. There was no immediate suggestion of disruptions to shipping in the canal, a vital international waterway leading from the Mediterranean to the Red Sea.
More than 2,000 textile workers and others in Suez demonstrated as well, Al Ahram reported, while in Luxor thousands hurt by the collapse of the tourist industry marched to demand government benefits. There was no immediate independent corroboration of the reports.
At one factory in the textile town of Mahalla, more than striking 1,500 workers blocked roads, continuing a long-running dispute with the owner. And more than 2,000 workers from the Sigma pharmaceutical company in the city of Quesna went on strike while some 5,000 unemployed youth stormed a government building in Aswan, demanding the dismissal of the governor.
Workers from the state Health Ministry walked out in protest today as well. And outside of the media glare, demonstrations in smaller cities have taken an ugly turn. Police fired on protesters in Port Said, near the Suez Canal, killing several people. And two men died in the province of Wadi El Jedid, in the southwest, after gunfire from police.
If there weren’t cameras focused on Parliament and Tahrir Square, this would probably be happening there too. Omar Suleiman, now firmly in charge and the public face of the regime, warned protesters by calling the unrest “very dangerous” and saying that the only alternative to dialogue (on his terms) was a coup. He continued in an interview on state-run TV, “We don’t want to deal with Egyptian society with police tools.”
Don’t want to, or don’t want people to see it?
In the face of this, the other US allies in the Middle East are pressing Obama to back off of Mubarak and allow the “stable” process to take hold. They aren’t really talking about Egypt, but their own countries; they don’t want to see the same kind of unrest at their doorstep, and so they view Mubarak holding on as crucial to their continued survival. They say it would “destabilize the region.” But stability in this case is synonymous with autocracy.
The Administration message started out mixed, and has veered from decent to awful, especially with the support for Suleiman, who clearly wants to crush the protest movement underfoot. They went back on this a bit yesterday, with Joe Biden demanding “steps toward democracy” in a phone call. But they aren’t really following the lead of the people in Egypt, more of whom turn out at protests every day. They’re following their autocrat allies and clinging to older notions of the need for a strongman to keep order.




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The White House better be planning the course of action for after their anointed strongman crushes the protesters in a bloody way. It’s unfortunately sounding more and more like Suleiman is planning just that now that it’s become clear the protests aren’t burning themselves out.
“But they aren’t really following the lead of the people in Egypt, more of whom turn out at protests every day. They’re following their autocrat allies and clinging to older notions of the need for a strongman to keep order.”
President Obama, Get on a plane and go to Cairo. Show the Egyptian people and the World, that we the American people support their democratic aspirations. Be a leader of the Free world, and demonstrate with actions, not words that the “right to self determination,” the underpinning of America’s revolution and severing of ties with a King, is universal. Otherwise we are no better than a corrupt King and colonial cohorts in corporate crime, who mercantiled our forefathers! Most unfortunate that our corporate instilled and levereraged addiction to “OIL,” compromises America’s integrity!
I would think that an American prez’s support for the dictatorship may be helping fire up the protesters.
Indeed!
“We don’t want to deal with Egyptian society with police tools.”
What he is saying is “We don’t want to shoot the protesters, but we will bc the protesters have forced our hand.”
Is this the lead-up to the slaughter?
What will the Egyptian military do? Will they take a side? Whose?
By the way, where are the US marines that were on their way to the ME?
Where will they land?
@3 I disagree, his inaction and stance says volumes about what his priorities are, the status quo. O will ride along with Suleiman as long as his leash will let him.
Ancient saying: Man who sits on fence gets sore crotch
Yeppers. Sulieman’s the new go-to U.S. guy. I heard it on a smidge of Hudson Institute speech this morning. Egyptian military is using demonstrations for a disguised coup.
That does make a lot of sense with the way things have been going so far.
Wonderful piece by Richard Falk at Al Jazeera English.
Egypt’s Berlin Wall moment
If the workers shut down shipping thru the Canal, thats whats known as a ‘Wake up Call’.
Im sure Obama is eager to make nice to the Saudi freaks (sorry ‘sheiks’) and Netanyahu. (How’s that for a rare convergence?. Both are actually in strong agreement about something.) But its a big mistake. For the future of the MidEast. And his reelection prospects.
fyi AJ E was reporting earlier there appears to be a growing split btw Suleiman and Sami Anan (COS, Egyptian Armed Forces) wrt the Army/protesters- no details yet, just a blurb
p.s. apparently newspapers all over Egypt today are filled with ads from companies denying any connection to Mubarak family
That’s good news. I think.
The odds are good that the administration will totally fuck up the whole Egypt situation by sticking with Suleiman, Mubarak 2.0.
Doing so will only alienate any new reform government that comes in. They’d be smarter to side with the reformers now and surf the wave of reform rather than get crunched by it.
This is why I love FDL: good politics and good writing that cut through the bullshit.
Good for them!
Take what is THEIRS!
The legislature, then take the teevee stations. Then let HOsni and Company rot while they rebuild, let the ol’ Kleptocrat die in Egypt so be it.
The OBAMA WH is consistent at one thing ignoring the will of the people in the USA and Abroad.
Jane said it best Obama can’t say he supports Mubarak, because his base of Student support will disappear, and his 2012 election and the election of some Dem senators will end like Mubarak career is about end.
AIPAC must be frustrated, all of their puppets in the USG and in Congress are not doing everything they say.
Progressives already know Obama will say and do anything to get re-elected. AIPAC is just finding this out.
Me Thinks, the OBAMA WH is going to ignite wide spread social un-rest in the MID-EAST, because they are totally incompetetent.
listen closely, and you may hear the foot steps of a primary challenge to OBAMA.
Just to play devil’s advocate…. Someone did make a good case for a “tansition” the other nite on some show. We all know that the Leader of Parliment (does this guy have a name? why isnt he in the news?) is supposed to take over and elections held in 2 months. Because of the more or less one party governance, no “opposition” groups really have time to organize in any meaningful way.
Spring is coming so that means that Israel will attack one of its neighbors… My bet is that Lebanon will luck out and the Carpetbagging Poles will invade the Sinai instead.
Obama’s selection of Omar Suleiman, the Egyptian Minister of Torture and certifiable war criminal, said everything there is to say about what he wants to happen in Egypt; namely, brutal suppression of the people and reimposition of autocratic dictatorial rule ineffectively concealed beneath a filthy tattered blanket of trivial bullshit remarks about doing something yet to be determined in the future to promote democracy after the troublemakers have been silenced forever and order has been restored.
Anyone with a functioning braincell knows that Suleiman is a big part of the problem and cannot be part of the solution. By selecting him Obama has proven to the world that (1) he is naive and stupid in matters of foreign policy and (2) he does not believe in or support democracy.
Yes, America. We have a naive and stupid democracy hater for a president and we need to send his sorry ass back to private life in Chicago before the 2012 election.
Interesting.
No reason to believe that a military coup would be organized around a single person, esp if they weren’t in charge of the coup from beginning to end, & just took advantage of demonstrations to execute a behind-the-scenes coup.
Also, no reason why U.S. neocons should have a monopoly on the inside U.S. or inside Egypt story.
But if there’s a way to mess it up for the long-distant future, we can count on O, CIA & neocons & Israel to be working hard on it.
He’s being
welltutored. Kissinger basically told Obamaco to STFU on Charlie Rose the other day.It’s the one thing Republicans and Democrats agree on. If they don’t insist on “strong men” being the essential force for “stability” for our allies (individually and for the maintenance of their relationships with each other), they can’t very well claim that we need an omnipotent president unaccountable to Congress or the courts, now can they?
Mr. Suleiman, had he time for irony, should insist that the US terminate its “emergency laws”, the Patriot Act among them, before it calls on him to terminate his. It’s the same schoolyard argument the US uses to avoid taking steps to combat global warming: we won’t do it until China does it first, naaah. That would certainly mean the end of US pressure on him to advance democracy and to put the needs of his people ahead of his own.
That sentence was so long that my mind had to take a breath while reading it. All points are agreed with, though.
Perhaps one should ask the Times when it redefined “allies” to include not the democracies of Europe, Asia or Latin America, with which we sometimes interact, and limited it the monarchy of Saudi Arabia, the dictatorships of other ME states, and the hard-right government of Israel.
Sorry, I disagree. He is not naive. He totally knows what he is doing and he is supporting his wealthy transnational corporations which are supported by the US Chamber Of Commerce, and Obama’s new best friend. He cannot support democracy. It would destroy their entire plan to steal everything from the little guy for the profits of the few. And they will use the military to keep us little people in line.
Obama and Hillary have already messed up so bad by choosing Suleiman that they will never be able to wash off the stink of death that clings to their outmoded ways of thinking and dislike for democracy. No matter what happens in Egypt, they have exposed themselves as untrustworthy, irrelevant, and sorry-ass troglodytes who belong to another age and time.
They cannot possibly redeem themselves after such an incredibly bad choice as Suleiman.
I meant naive in the sense that he thinks he can blow his bullshit by everybody and never get called on it.
What worries me most is that if Obama gets exactly what he wants, which is another vile and brutal dictatorship in Egypt, the Egyptian people as well as the people of Palestine will suffer even more oppression than they did under Mubarak’s rule. You don’t have to be a foreign policy wonk to know that this will cause even more anti-American sentiment to flare up throughout the Muslim world, which will eventually sow the seeds for another major terrorist attack against the US.
Surely Obama is aware of this. Surely he is aware that by continuing to prop up a dictatorship in Egypt, especially a dictatorship that aids and abets the fascist state of Israel to oppress the people of Palestine, will eventually force the US to fatten up its national security apparatus to the point where American democracy becomes a mere skeleton of its former self. I’m beginning to think that’s exactly what Obama wants to do the US. And what better way to do this as well as to enrich the American oligarchs and destroy America’s middle class than to pattern the US after the fascist state of Israel.
Robert Fisk, on democracynow this morning, had a litany of things, both active & missed opportunities, that O et al had already done to mess up Egypt. Started with something O didn’t say in his Cairo speech, but I’ve forgotten what it was. And the funny part was that it was in answer to Amy’s Q about what O should do now. There was a long pause, a long sigh, then the litany. Then the conclusion that there wasn’t much they could do now, considering the ‘mistakes’ they’d already made.
Yours is the short version.
An (perhaps) unintended benefit in the sense that it hots up the terror war even more, which helps keep the MIC rolling in dough & keeps the peeps at home in fear & unable to think straight.
Based on my reading, not personal knowledge, my impression is some quik changes in the Egyptian constitution could be made in a few weeks if TPTB really wanted it to happen. Instead of using the head of Parliament as a straw man excuse for why nothing can be done. Kind of like the excuses Obama used for why we couldnt get a Public Option – blaming the Repubs at the same time he bargained it away behind the scenes in secret so the insurance companies wouldnt cry.
Bugga Bugga woman is on high alert for……domestic terrrrrists today. Another horrible appointment by Barry.
Cynthia: “Surely he is aware that by continuing to prop up a dictatorship in Egypt, especially a dictatorship that aids and abets the fascist state of Israel to oppress the people of Palestine, will eventually force the US to fatten up its national security apparatus to the point where American democracy becomes a mere skeleton of its former self. I’m beginning to think that’s exactly what Obama wants to do the US. And what better way to do this as well as to enrich the American oligarchs and destroy America’s middle class than to pattern the US after the fascist state of Israel.”
eCAHNomics: “An (perhaps) unintended benefit in the sense that it hots up the terror war even more, which helps keep the MIC rolling in dough & keeps the peeps at home in fear & unable to think straight.”
Which is why the citizens of this country need to seriously look at the election of 2012 now. We can’t let the media once again make it about how stupid Palin is vs. Obama or how ridiculous all the Republican candidates are. ALL of the Republican candidates and President Obama represent the interests of a few not the majority. “We” as a country need to put a President in place that represents the citizens first and always.
I believe the citizens of Egypt (a majority under 30) will continue to recognize the hypocrisy of Barack Obama and his administration. Will the majority here?
Short answer? No.
This is fantastic news, DDay – keep it coming! The return of the labor strike is particularly good news.
It will still all come down in the end to the attitude of the Egyptian Army. That’s the endgame in most revolutions. But the attitude of the whole Army is relevant – at all ranks. Even if all the generals are solidly behind Mubarak or Suleiman – and it’s far from clear that they are – the generals won’t be able to control the lower-level commanders and the rank and file if they become disaffected enough. And the mood of the general Egyptian public – and of the labor unions – will have an effect on the mood of the Army.
Please, fill us in with more on the Army and the workers at every opportunity.
Our
puppets“allies” are probably terrified. Several of them have faced major protests already, but probably most people in their countries are waiting to see what happens in Egypt. When/if Mubarak and Suleiman are out the door, what do you think will happen to the “allies” then?Keep us posted, DDay.
Jane is on Dylan Ratigan right now
Oh my god!!! I didn’t realize the left was peddling kool-aid.
“Be a leader of the free world and demonstrate with actions…”
Sorry, that sort of behavior is above this man’s pay grade.
The military will be there shortly anyway. Apparently Somali pirates stole a cargoship with 200 million worth of oil, and the oil company can’t find it now. Cuz, it’s easily hidden. When the size of 3 soccer fields.
Ya, the Dems latest winning re-election strategy…….Be afeared! Be very afeared!
Heh. I found that amusing, too. Not to mention the tracking equipment on the vessel.
If anyone comes around this late to the thread, it looks like the wheels are really starting to come off. Reporter Robert Tait’s article up at the guardian.uk on being held in custody by Egyptian ‘security’ and hearing the ‘electric rattlesnack’ used to torture fellow prisoners.
This is what my tax money is supporting?!!
I am nauseous.
I hope international journalists pound the hell out of this story. Keeping the spotlight on Egypt is the only thing that will keep the protesters safe.
Chickens coming home to roost, all at once: The Pakistani business with the CIA-Xe agent, the demonstrations that won’t go away in Egypt, and the Anonymous response to the clumsy attempt to filch their files. Things are happening fast. We see if Mr. Cool and keep his Cool through all this.
I’m no longer an admirer of this President, but ask yourself, how would the alternative be doing now? We have one-party government, just like Israel. Don’t blame the guy at the top; there’s nothing he can do about it any more. I wouldn’t be surprised if he runs on both lines in 2012. God knows, the thugs don’t have anybody.
oh i dont disagree. Hell, I say give the keys to Jimmy Carter and hold elections this summer.
I wish i could remember the “pundit” but it was a very reasonable assessment of why even if Mubarak left yesterday the country wouldnt be ready for elections for several months.
Our allies in the Middle East should be the people, not the dictators.
The Egyptian Army split could be real -
The “blocking the entrance to Parliament” is no big deal as it is only a stones throw from the square, but the tents in the square that were makeshift are now Army field quality.
The Army will not allow the change in the system that an untidy removal of Mubarak requires because that would screw up their life style – but they will also not allow the “emergency” rule to continue – and after 30 years the Egyptian version of the US Patriot Act should end.
I guess the question is – Will the Patriot Act in the US end – the emergency powers for police laws that kill our constitutional rights – before the similar law in Egypt ends?
Ratigan today (MSNBC) has an interesting interview about the young Google exec, conducted with his pal who lives in Boston. If you’ve been around tech, you’ve seen guys just like him: smart, articulate, decent, workaholic. Totally credible.
Today’s NYT highlights ‘Facebook revolutionaries’: the faces of affluent Cairo 20-somethings who want a future that isn’t crippled by the thuggery they live under now. There’s not a Muslim Brotherhood face in the bunch, which must really unglue AIPAC.
The army is now complicit in detaining and torturing people, if the guardian.uk’s reporting is to be believed (and I believe it, given UK libel laws they wouldn’t risk printing this stuff if they didn’t have evidence they could show in a court).
Suliman’s kabuki curtain is vaporizing in front of our eyes.
And that Tait report is horrific.
The wheels are flying off the bus in front of our eyes, methinks.
Which makes me think about the Obamabot quitting smoking.
It was my last hope maybe he was human. Maybe. So now, nothing to relax him at all. He likes strongmen. Or maybe the little bot just takes orders from his CIA paymasters. It IS that simple. (ooh I am so mean and a hater! Yeah, I hate repressive regimes and torturers even if they have D support- oh vey the nerve of me)