One of the major side issues in the Wisconsin public employees fight is the role of public pension obligations. It’s not really the main issue, since Wisconsin labor officials have agreed to all of the pension concessions which Governor Walker has sought. The idea here is that state workers don’t “deserve” these generous pensions, and they always cherry-pick some chief of police or city administrator taking home a six-figure annual pension to make the point.
First of all, the average Wisconsin pension is $24,500, so that’s a red herring. Second, to the extent there are problems with state public pension funds, it’s the result of something you might remember called the financial crisis, which led to a broad stock market crash. That has basically turned around now but has led to major losses for pension funds. Third, most public employees with public pensions don’t pay into Social Security, so this is all they’ve got.
And most important, there’s an entire mindset that needs to be changed here. The argument starts from the proposition that defined-benefit pensions are somehow illegitimate, and I would argue the opposite. Traditionally, there’s been a three-legged stool for retirements: personal savings, Social Security, and pensions. Social Security is still going strong, although forces in Washington want to weaken it, but that’s just part of a retirement plan. Personal savings have tanked over the last decade, tracking the reduction in average wages. People went into major debt to keep up with goods and services and obtain a reasonable standard of living. Savings rates are starting to creep back, but a lot of that goes to debt service. So between Social Security and savings, there’s very little margin for the average worker in retirement.
That brings us to pensions, the third leg of the stool. Since the 1980s, employers have switched over from a defined-benefit pension (like what public employees get) to a defined-contribution pension like a 401(k) plan. The individual manages the money and employers provide matching contributions. While this works out very well for the money managers being paid to make transactions and manage accounts, it doesn’t work out so well for the workers. Facing a volatile stock market and without the information needed to take advantage of opportunities, they made little use of their money. And the generation that’s on the cusp of retirement, the first generation to have a large majority of 401(k) plans, doesn’t have the money they need to live:
The median household headed by a person aged 60 to 62 with a 401(k) account has less than one-quarter of what is needed in that account to maintain its standard of living in retirement, according to data compiled by the Federal Reserve and analyzed by the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College for The Wall Street Journal. Even counting Social Security and any pensions or other savings, most 401(k) participants appear to have insufficient savings. Data from other sources also show big gaps between savings and what people need, and the financial crisis has made things worse.
This analysis uses estimates of 401(k) balances from the end of 2010 and of salaries from 2009. It assumes people need 85% of their working income after they retire in order to maintain their standard of living, a common yardstick.
Facing shortfalls, many people are postponing retirement, moving to cheaper housing, buying less-expensive food, cutting back on travel, taking bigger risks with their investments and making other sacrifices they never imagined.
This is leading to workers taking part-time jobs in their 70s, or drastically reducing their standard of living. Their 401(k) plans will not allow them to stay afloat. Even as the stock market has rebounded, many took all their assets out of stocks after the crash, missing the rebound entirely. This kind of risk doesn’t lead to good decisions, and it should have no place in the money that is earmarked for retirements.
And so when you hear all this demonizing about public pensions, understand that this is an effort to undermine the only stable piece of retirement security left for Americans. The Wall Street-led way of doing this has failed the current generation of retirees. Elderly poverty statistics are going to shoot up in the next decade because of this. It’s simply not true that we should scale down pension benefits for one class of workers; we need to scale up those benefits for everyone else. Otherwise, we’re going to have a rapidly growing class of elderly poor people in America, with reduced living standards and an inability to contribute to the economy through consumer spending, which you’d think the corporations would figure out.




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dont forget that in most states, state workers get NO Social Security.
The employer’s contribution goes to fund the employee pension system.
For these people, gutting this is like taking away SS at the same time.
and speaking of a no-legged stool, what is the personal savings for someone making 40-50k a year?
“like a 401(k) plan. The individual manages the money and employers provide matching contributions.”
Hello, not like any 401(k) in our house. No match required, and none given. The message is a loud and clear YOYO–You’re On Your Own.
I am getting really tired of hearing about the enormous salaries of state employees. My son works for the state, making $15.00 per hour. Needless to say his wife has to work as well in order to support their two children. They are well educated, my son has a college degree in business management. He has worked hard all of his adult life.
I live on a limited budget. I try to stay healthy, and pay off my mortgage as rapidly as possible. I expect that there will be a second crash coming soon, since none of the business practices that caused our economy to tank has been changed. I have started my own austerity program in order to become used to living on very little, and have given up all entertainment and unnecessary expenses. An occasional trip to the Goodwill has become one of my last remaining pleasures.
1. Maintaining artificially low interest rates as the Fed has for years and years punishes savers and retirees who choose not to be a part of the unregulated/deregulated/self-regulated (ha!) Ponzi scheme scam know as the stock market. Many retirees would be a hell of a lot better off if they could keep the bulk of their savings in safe interest bearing accounts earning a respectable rate of interest as used to be common not that long ago.
2. Keeping fuel and food out of COLA adjustments is the biggest crock of BS ever perpetuated.
3. How do people forced or pushed into involuntary retirement supplement their income with non-existent jobs? Wal Mart only needs so many greeters.
4. As the horror of their incipient poverty dawns on more and more of the boomers, they might finally start to realize that they are the sacrificial pawns in a class struggle and become somewhat more militant and radicalized.
5. More and more seniors will have no alternative but to enter into more shared housing scenarios. 1 or 2 Social Securities may not pay the insurance and taxes and utilities, but 3 or 4 might. It’s the Golden Girls set-up or couples living together, etc.(I don’t see this as necessarily a bad thing). Or, more families moving in with Mom and Dad or more Moms and Dads moving in with the kids. For some families, this is living hell on earth, for others it can be great.
6. In light of #5, it would be nice if communities loosened up on a lot of the snob zoning ordinances and made it easier for people to add income units to their principle residences, like legal mother-in-law suites which could be leased to someone else for a moderate rate and perhaps some services like lawncare, shopping, etc. Everyone wins except snobs and NIMBYs.
7. It would be nice if more of us would say “Damn right!” when we are accused of being Socialists when we campaign for things like single payer, etc.
401K Plans and IRA’s need to get pumped up good and high so Goldman Sachs can short them to hell again and steal all our money. Once they get Social Security Funds in there, they will short the living hell out of it making billions again for themselves while cutting us off at the knees.
Of course they are. All the bubbles have burst. And in the era of austerity invoked after the financial orgies, with businesses sitting on their cash not about to invest when no one will consume the product, those 401ks aren’t going anywhere. But that’s only the Qualified Retirement Benefit side of the story, Now, for those who can get the Non-qualified, whose tax rates have been slashed, life’s good.