Nobody really knows how long the stare-down in Wisconsin will last. The Joint Finance Committee that was supposed to take public testimony on Tuesday is actually still going on, with Democratic members of the assembly listening to everyone who files into the hearing room. So this could be measured in weeks and not days.
However, there is a bend point, as spelled out in this Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel article. It’s easy to forget that the budget repair bill is a budget bill, and not merely a vehicle to strip public employee bargaining rights. What the repair bill should do is fill a $137 million shortfall – 1% of the total budget – for the rest of the fiscal year, which ends in June. One of the bigger solutions to fill that shortfall actually restructures debt and pushes it into the next fiscal year, saving around $100 million. That may not sound like much of a “solution” at all, but coming from California it sounds pretty commonplace. Anyway, there’s kind of a deadline to accomplishing this debt restructure, and it’s fast approaching.
Besides the union bargaining provisions, the bill includes many other elements, including a refinancing of state debt that Walker wants to shore up the state’s finances through the fiscal year that ends June 30. That would push back $165 million in principal payments on the bonds into future years and free up money that could be used to help the state pay two large outstanding bills – one owed to the state of Minnesota and another owed to a fund for medical malpractice victims.
The Legislature’s nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau said Walker’s bill, as amended by Republicans on the Legislature’s budget committee last week, would leave the state with just $65 million in reserves. So without the money from the refinancing, the state would have a further projected shortfall of roughly $100 million to make up.
To allow time for that refinancing deal to go through, the bill must pass by Friday, according to a memo earlier this month by state Administration Secretary Mike Huebsch. More recently, Huebsch said it may be possible to pull off the bond deal if the bill passes by Saturday, but no later than that.
“If we can’t pass this by then, we lose our window for refinancing in this (fiscal year),” he said.
The article tries to make it sound like Republicans have “leverage” as well, because they’re going to hold a Senate session on non-financial bills (like cabinet appointments for Governor Walker, for example), which they can do with a simple majority. But if those things can pass anyway, I don’t see how much leverage that is. By contrast, Senate Democrats basically hold $100 million in their hands.
Perhaps this is why we’re hearing today about a potential compromise brokered by moderate Republicans:
The proposal, written by Sen. Dale Schultz and first floated in the Republican caucus early last week, calls for most collective bargaining rights of public employee unions to be eliminated – per Mr. Walker’s bill – but then reinstated in 2013, said Mr. Schultzs’s chief of staff Todd Allbaugh.
“Dale is committed to find a way to preserve collective bargaining in the future,” said Mr. Allbaugh in a telephone interview.
On Sunday Mr. Walker reiterated his confidence that Republicans would pass their proposal intact.
“We’re willing to take this as long as it takes because in the end we’re doing the right thing for Wisconsin,” Mr. Walker said during an interview with Fox News on Sunday.
Schultz has been a state Senator for 20 years and was endorsed by the state’s largest teacher’s union in his most recent election. This half-measure, with a sunset on the collective bargaining restrictions, has been floating around for a little while. Democrats don’t accept it and want any changes to collective bargaining off the table. The public employee unions have agreed to concessions on pension and health care contributions – the fiscal implications of the budget repair bill. As Sen. Jon Erpenbach said, “If it’s OK to collectively bargain in 2013 why isn’t it OK today?”
So the compromise doesn’t make a lot of sense. But it has been offered. The moderate Republicans are looking for a way out. Democrats, by contrast, are united. And there’s this looming deadline of Friday.
UPDATE: Gov. Walker sent out this statement with three examples of how collective bargaining is a fiscal issue. One concerns what health care plan teachers sign up for, which is mainly an issue of the Governor seemingly wanting to strip the health care choices of workers (if you like what you have, you can keep it!). The next is some gotcha issue about Viagra in Milwaukee, which state courts ruled against a few years later. The third, and the only state issue, is overtime rules for corrections officers. Somehow I’m not convinced that this is such a scourge. The President of the Wisconsin State Senate didn’t do the job on that either today.




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Let’s say public workers lose their collective bargaining rights for 2 years, what damage could be done to their pensions, rules for retirement age, etc in that time period? Not being an expert, I wouldn’t know for sure but there’s no way in hell I’d give up bargaining rights for any time period.
It’s the typical Republican playbook. They have no intention of letting the provision sunset once it passes a la’ Bush tax cuts.
I wouldn’t do it either. I’m mainly tracking the movement of the individual players.
The fact that Walker is trying to call collective bargaining a ‘fiscal issue’ means he’s on defense, rather than offense. That’s a beautiful thing.
Like they would ever allow that provision to sunset. Once collective bargaining rights are gone, they’re gone.
By contrast, Senate Democrats basically hold $100 million in their hands.
Its more than that politically connected firms handle most state’s investments whats the commission to those firms handling the State’s bonds if the state defaults? Nothing.
In this particular WI case, I don’t think they’re talking about pensions. Maybe I’m remembering something else, but I thought I heard over the weekend that these workers don’t have pensions, but pay into 401k’s.
Me-Thinks Gov. Walker the puppet is going to get a call from his Masters telling him to back down.
because like Palin, Gov Walker actions could do severe damage to the GOP across the USA.
doing crap like this in a DEPRESSION is not smart.
A real DEM would have been making the GOP look like IDIOTS, but real Dems are hard to find.
Gov. Walker just got all of his GOP peers in Wisconsin fired in 2012.
Why are we talking about Unions being willing to cut back everything but collective bargaining? FDR taxed the rich 90% that worked to get us out of the Great Depression. The rich will flee fine their assets get taxed as well as their income 90%.
Stocks, bonds can be sold fast but real estate, factories nope. If the budget is that bad then tax the rich.
Bush proved lower taxes don’t create jobs and Obama proved that providing tax breaks and helping banks make loans ( to the rich ) won’t create jobs in America at least so we are left with no choice Tax the Rich.
Whoa– that’s a switch.
I just left a comment at the end of your last thread about what is floating around at the great orange site…allegedly a plan for Governor Koch Brother’s and his GOP friends to strip the the collective bargaining issue from the budget repair bill and attach it tomorrow as an amendment to one of those non budget pieces of legislation where it can pass with a simple majority and no quorum needed, just need a voice vote to pass it? Again I am just passing along this information that is being floated out there…not certain of the validity…don’t shoot the messenger please. Maybe you (or others with more knowledge) can speak to this better dday.
He only gets the call if other GOP governors get the call remember the GOP coordinate things like this nationwide because they all share the same brain Ohio and a few other states are talking about this too.
Funny the GOP talks about free will but they all surrender their free will to get things done the exact same way.
The two year hold is not a compromise, it is a slight of hand. I would not call this proposal “bending,” “compromise,” or “deal brokering” either.
Trickery or foolery are better words.
Crap Great Catch any wiser heads than mine got any insight on this?
Again, no one is looking at the impact this legislation will have on teachers’ lives. Many will lose their homes and experience personal stresses which will harm their performance.
Just what any state considering such legislation needs…more unemployment and growth in the housing crisis.
Economic short sightedness.
But people who want to solve real fiscal problems know that first you have to give or extend tax cuts for the rich, and only then get serious about dealing with budget deficits. /s
Seriously, I think we have to remember that assholes like Pres Obama and Gov Walker aren’t trying to solve problems so much as they’re creating problems and telling average Americans to suck it up.
David, this needs to be looked at.
Such a move is simply evil.
FDL needs a special coverage tab on Collective Bargaining bills on the left of the front page just like the Egypt coverage.
YES THEY DO!
the problem they have is some of these GOV want to win the WH in 2012
Gov Walker Actions will hamper that quest big time.
all one has to do is look at a political map, and see that the GOP can not and will not win the WH without carrying some Union States.
the GOP knows that just winning the right to work south will not get it done.
me thinks some GOP GOVs. will be yelling at Gov. Walker soon. and a couple of of GOP senators
Too true. It’s gotten to the point that supporting the Democratic Party is pointless. In fact, it’s been so thoroughly infested by sellouts that supporting the Democratic Party has become counterproductive.
Agreed they want to break us they are parasites who complain the meat is to hard so they soften the meat but to much softening kills us. Parasites who get greedy and kill the host tend not to last long look at Egypt, Libya etc.
could have not said it better
Obama actions are CLASSIC cut taxes for the Rich
and cut Services for the Poor
just like his hero REAGAN
anyone seen David Axelrod new comedy show? where he tries to get a GOP President elected by Dems
Sure but just who in the GOP hasn’t drunk the cool aid and is only pretending so they can get elected? Mitt, Huckabee, Jeb? Newt, Sarah, Ron Paul they are all firm and I believe that they believe the Governor is right on this.
Mitt, Jeb and Huckabee don’t have much GOP Cred to tell anyone what to do and their is no GOP leader right now to tell anybody anything.
Actually it’s the Obama playbook. It’s not the Republicans who are proposing the “sunset,” but rather it is the Democrats. If such a deal were to be made, I expect it to happen like the Obama tax cuts where once they’re set to expire, they’ll be treated as a tax increase…which Republicans have already said this openly.
On the contrary, they last way too long.
The corrupt system under Gaddafi has been in place since the late 1960s.
The corrupt system under Mubarak had been in place since the early 1980s.
And the system in the US has been increasingly corrupted since the ’80s and is getting more corrupt as we speak.
So Wisconsin has a fund to subsidize careless doctors and greedy lawyers?
Might 20-year veteran Senator Dale Schultz be one of the Republican Senators subject to recall immediately? I wonder how the recall petition for him is going.
Your assumption is that they get collective bargaining rights back in the legislative fight that will happen in two years. (After the establishment of the Koch-financed permanent Republican majority.)
Also demonstrates that he is fundamentally untrustworthy and that the demonstrators should hold out for his resignation.
I’m not so sure that Gov Walker has done WI Republicans much of a favor in this case.
You can bargain over the employer contribution to 401(k) defined contribution retirement plans.
Domestic Austerity GOP Leader is the Koch Brothers. Domestic Austerity Democratic Party Leader also Koch Brothers. Leading Pols in both parties are Koch Industries Droids.
The MIC and Big Oil are the International Leaders of both parties.
Time will tell on that one. If he gets half a loaf, survives, and kicks the collective bargaining can down the road, he will have not damaged the cause. Which is why he needs to be forced to emulate Gov. Palin.
The Koch brothers pull the strings, but the de facto leader of the Republican Party is Rush Limbaugh. (Glenn Beck, eat your heart out–if you can find it.)
And force him to become another Half Governor?
Now if only Floridians would just do the same to the asshole they recently elected…
We can join in–and seize the moment.
February 26th international day of protests http://www.usuncut.org
Maybe Saudi Arabia will take him when he resigns and flees the country.
Any parasite who kills the host before he dies has a problem where to find a new host. Remember their kids have no skills and contrary to GOP ideas ideas the rich are not needed to manage money and create they jobs they hire people for that.
But the rich have expensive tastes and just because the parasite dies does not mean they quit spending. This leaves their kids in a much weaker position than they might have had had they not been parasites.
Never mind their life’s work is discredited, the ideas they fought for become a joke.
Think President Bush he has money but much less than he would have had if Al Gore became President. Bush has scorn and knows only Hoover and Obama are his competition for worse President ever.
Bush knows he has blackened the family name and quite possibly killed any future political hopes for his family with torture and murder plus he let Ossama get away!
And he lives to see his name laughed at, cursed and all his works derided even by his friends. Man does not live on cash alone he needs pride.
Still, parasites have ways of sustaining hosts for a long, long time. Host peoples seem to have a very high tolerance for all that these parasites do to them. Why do parasites get to live long enough to kill the hosts, anyway?
Don’t count on it. These jerks were elected by huge majorities in many of the states. We can’t afford to sit around and expect the people to understand or care what is going on. There must be protests and there must be pressure on the media to get the issues right.
Don’t expect any help from the south which has consistently been anti-union since before Taft-Hartley.
Emptywheel has a fresh cross-post up: Nouri al-Maliki’s Retirement Fund?
You know that fascism has come to Wisconsin when its Governor threatens to call out the National Guard if union workers protest against having their collective bargaining rights taken away from them, and especially when he made certain that union workers who are heavily armed with guns and testosterone ( i.e., the state troopers) are exempt from having their collective bargaining rights taken away from them.
And what better way for a fascist governor like Scott Walker and his billionaire corporate backers like the Koch Brothers to squash a labor revolt than to get union workers who profit in a fascist state by being heavily armed with guns and testosterone, i.e., the state troopers, on their side against union workers who are mostly unarmed and mostly female, i.e., public school teachers.
Too bad that most Americans can’t get it through their thick skulls that an assault on labor unions is an an assault on Lady Liberty and everything she stands for!
David,
It would be vital to post how many teachers are sole income earners for their households and how many are from dual public employee households. In Ohio, teachers will take about a $10,000 hit, have no sick leave, have merit issues that impact the no sick leave and teachers will not be able to afford their classes they need to maintain their certification.
It is a serious foundational concern to look at these issues due to their impact on unemployment, the furthering of the foreclosure crisis and the over all momentum of economic downturn spiral in any state considering the cut of collective bargaining.
all teachers, and other public union members are not Democrats
the reason the GOP won in 2010 = OBAMA the trojan horse
a below avg Democratic President could have kept the Dems in power.
not OBAMA!
Obama intentionally wreck the Dems in 2010,
Unions and Progressives have not had a friend in the WH for decades.
Gov. Walker was created by OBAMA
an intelligent DEMOCRAT would have expose these clowns, but real and intelligent dems are hard to find.
There are 14 Dems preventing this bill from sailing through. I notice they are not getting any credit here. Seems strange even when the Dems made a tough decision to flee the state, their actions are being ignored so the general demonizing can go on.
We’ve had a number of FDL posts about their incredible efforts.
Not a half governor—a two-month governor.
Exactly.
Oklahoma’s closer.
Here’s The Bottom Line
The South has been anti-union since the Textile Strike of 1938. There was the possibility of getting a desegregated union – a necessity if the owners intended to turn blacks into scabs. The major unions outside the South feared a rank-and-file revolt if they opened the door to desegregation; most unions did not desegregate until the equal employment acts of the 1960s, and this issue led a lot of non-Southern rank-and-file members to start voting Republican with Nixon.
The history of the labor struggle in the South is long, complex, and depressing.
Why do parasites get to live long enough to kill the hosts, anyway?
Greedy parasites kill the hosts before the host can reproduce are well self defeating thats why the Justian’s Plague and the plague that almost wiped wiped out Athens in the Peloponnesian Wars are gone.
TB however is still with us because its not greedy Crony Capitalism is a parasite that seems to be reaching the point of killing its host.
Higher food prices and people not being able to marry because of no jobs shows that the parasite is getting to the point of stopping people from breeding.
We have food food waste on farms is incredible never mind what super markets and restaurants throw out that could be fed to worms and then used as fish food for fish farms or the worms could be used to help create more soil and thus improve crop yields.
http://rortybomb.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/the-less-discussed-part-of-walkers-wisconsin-plan-no-bid-energy-assets-firesales/
read this very short item and you will see what WI Gov. Walker is all about and how breaking the unions is just a piece of the pie. there is a huge pay off to the Koch brothers who funded his campaign and the counter rallies is this:
part of his bgt document allows him to give away at a low-ball price, without bids, state-owned power plants to the Koch brothers.
If that was the case, why was Russ Feingold triangulating to the center. Elected Democrats got bad advice about what the sentiment was in their constituencies. By and large, the folks who were defeated were Blue Dogs and New Dems, a lot of the very people who undercut Obama beginning with the recovery act.
I know it’s emotionally satisfying to whip Obama. I occasionally indulge in it myself. But the Democratic party’s fecklessness began long before Obama ever arrived in the Senate. What happened in November 2010 is that a lot of those feckless Democrats lost their seats to Republicans.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/opinion/21krugman.html?_r=1&hp
Wisc state worker’s paid less than private sector…one of his best!
It’s going to take a lot of intelligent and articulate folks, identified Democrats or not. My sense is there is more wisdom among the working class than in the halls of power. I only hope it can find expression as a shift in the vote..
I see a future on Wall Street.
I so disagree with minimizing Obama’s culpability. It is not emotionally satisfying (an insult) or indulging. This is a case of a world leader promising change then going aggressively in the other direction. It is about intentions and honesty. I followed the whole camapaign. We had this whole debate yesterday and that position did not fly. Over 400 comments, sorry that dog won’t hunt anymore.
You got that right.
In the south all you have to do to get your way is to raise the specter of race/ethnicity, and some dork person getting an even break and Southern Pride comes to your rescue.
IMHO, Feingold was strangled by the local media, Journal Communication, which owns the NBC affiliate and the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. They endorsed him against Sen. Sunspot, but they killed Russ by not reporting on the exporting of jobs and many, many other GOP excesses. Milwaukee used to be the “tool shop,” to the world.
I couldn’t agree more.
Yes. I have been writing locally about the pernicious Blue Dogs for years. I am in my county now hoping to embark on a discussion of whether we are willing to anger the UDC and the Sons. I hope such discussions will be occurring in other local parties.
Ed at Gin and Tacos caught another interesting provision in this bill, it lets the state sell off its power plants with no-bid contracts:
http://www.ginandtacos.com/2011/02/21/stand-and-deliver/
I wonder who might be interested in buying a few power plants?
More items to alarm: I just watched an MSNBC segment on today’s Morning Joe on this topic with Carl Bernstein and Mark Halperin. Not one single word in the whole 14 minute segment about:
- AIG bailouts
- bankster bailouts
- at least 5+ hedge funders making over $1 billion each last year
- the amount of offshore money that’s ruining any rational understanding of US economics
- the amount of money that the Fortune 500 CEOs and hedge fund managers have made in 2008, 2009, 2010.
Last week on Ratigan’s show, he pointed out that 15% of the money in WI retirement funds is creamed off by Wall Street as fees.
Yet the national conversation is obsessing about ‘worker rights’ rather than how the fundamental federal laws and tax codes since 1980 have been redesigned to screw anyone who isn’t a hedge fund manager or a CEO.
This conversation really needs to start incorporating terms like “AIG bailout” and “offshore tax havens”.
Why on earth should second grade teachers in WI, who already bailed out banksters and paid for two off-the-books wars, be villified in the media as if they are somehow ‘unreasonable’ for protesting this economic and political disaster?
As usual the Obama conserva-klatch is still thinking about their future, while working people go down the circulating drain. Obama’s stand is clear, he has no time to help working people save what little control over their own lives they have left to them. His time is better spent fellating bankster, hedgers, health insurance frauders and other elites!
cobeav
So you still believe you can change the system by changing the person who is president?
What does holding Obama culpable do? What does the continual drumbeat on this one issue do? There are indeed other culpable Democrats. If it’s not emotionally satisfying or indulging, what does it accomplish? Especially here in the choir.
So get yourself another President. Change nothing else about the system of money-bought politics. Do you really think that you will get different results–that the “great charismatic man” matters that much? Leaders can’t lead if followers don’t follow; followers don’t follow leaders who can’t lead. Yet another endless loop.
I saw the conversation yesterday and was very dissatisfied that it explored Obama’s personal culpability and did not get from Alterman one whit of information about the kabuki system itself. And “go read the book” was totally arrogant, especially since Alterman picked and chose the questions he answered.
But the plain fact is that progressive desertion nowhere caused Democratic losses in November 2010. Nor that Democratic turnout was abnormally low. Republican turnout, because of whipping up racism (at least here in the South) and tax anger and because of effective use of churches for GOTV, was abnormally high. On this, opinions don’t matter. Those are the facts. I guess it’s Obama’s fault for being born half-black and with an Islamic-African name.
The failure to push for a larger stimulus package at its proposal. Obama is culpable. The appointment of the only Democratic bench out there, Clinton retreads–Obama is culpable. The failure to begin substantial prosecutions for the international crimes during the Bush administration and the fraud that caused the financial collapse–Obama is culpable.
But failure of the Democrats avoid a wipeout in the House. There are 68 Democrats responsible for that. And most of them bucked both Obama and Nancy Pelosi. They created their own fate. They are culpable for their own defeat.
It works outside the South too. It was unions in New York and Michigan and Illinois and other places that did not want desegregation to become an issue when they were recruiting. It would drive away the rank and file.
Nixon peeled off the union rank and file in 1968 with two issues: Vietnam (they were for it) and races (the didn’t want their unions, their neighborhoods, or their schools desegregated). What do you think the character of Archie Bunker was all about?
Exactly my point.
This from The Political Carnival….
“The Less Discussed Part of Walker’s Wisconsin Plan: No-Bid Energy Assets Firesales……
…The bill would allow for the selling of state-owned heating/cooling/power plants without bids and without concern for the legally-defined public interest. This excellent catch is from Ed at ginandtacos.com (who, speaking of Madison, took me to the Essen Haus on my 21st birthday, where the night began to go sideways). Ed correctly notes:
If this isn’t the best summary of the goals of modern conservatism, I don’t know what is. It’s like a highlight reel of all of the tomahawk dunks of neo-Gilded Age corporatism: privatization, no-bid contracts, deregulation, and naked cronyism. Extra bonus points for the explicit effort to legally redefine the term “public interest” as “whatever the energy industry lobbyists we appoint to these unelected bureaucratic positions say it is.””
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/02/21/the-less-discussed-part-of-walker%e2%80%99s-wisconsin-plan-no-bid-energy-assets-firesales/#
but it points to just how effective the fundamental strategy of American imperialism has been. To divide the working class along racial, or ethnic faults and keep us working against ourselves. It has worked since the early days of the founding of Virginia, and its still at work today.
Pigboy beat me to it!
Also in the budget bill: private takeover of state-owned utilities. Benefiting Koch.
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Koch got their money’s worth…
I hate when that happens :)
The thing is you site the actual legislation and how it works.
Which I did not do.
So it is a win, win after all.
You are of course right and y es about Archie Bunker.
I would add, and see it as a mistake to ignore, the particular viciousness of the southern way of manipulation of plundered workers to feed their self esteem and compliance on the basis of hatred and willingness to deprive themselves as long as they believe “others” — dark skinned, women, the disabled etc.— will get even less, I am confident Obama has no understanding of this paradigm and though it has spread neither do some other sections of the country. This hatred and resentment drove Nixon and his strategy.
Edit: It also fueled the transient Sunbelt prosperity.
reply to Tarheel Dem @ 64:
They lost their seats because dems passed the doctor bloodsucker insurance executive bailout act at Obama’s instigation. Yeah, they suck, the little punks like Woolsey, Sanders, and Weiner, etc.
It was Obama’s Idea, however. I don’t care what color he is, I want him out of office in 2013. He’s such a little scumbag I’m disgusted by it.
The GOP is just fine with people loosing their jobs and homes and healthcare. The worse the country looks next year, the better they are positioned for 2012. After all, ignorant Americans will blame Obama for the whole thing. AND, he will be partially responsible because he will still be trying to make friends with the opposition that is out to destroy him.
And gee, let’s also note how quickly OFA infiltrated the Wisconsin fracas.
(now this one is NOT actually a reply to Tarheel Dem, but a general observation regarding OFA’s efforts to put themselves in a position of control, like Suleiman in Egypt.)
Working people and the elderly have insufficient numbers in government who are on their side.
I’m not minimizing him (and for the record I didn’t vote for him in 2008 because his positions didn’t seem to match his actions even then).
That being said I don’t think he has as much of a say on a local referendum as say the local Dems, who in my opinion have been outstanding(up until this point I wasn’t sure there was a spine left among Democrats.)
The migration to the Sunbelt has been very interesting. In the 1960s and 1970s, we thought it would lead to furthering liberalism in the South. But what has happened is folks from outside the South have moved to the suburbs around Sunbelt cities and “gone native”. In some cases, Confederate flags and license plates that say “Yankee by birth; rebel by choice” –the whole nine yards.
I don’t think people are that stupid. If and when the government shutdown occurs, people are going to remember the GOP wasn’t that concerned about balancing the budget when it came to rich folk tax cuts.
No, I think the electorate will blame the GOP far more than t5he guy who had it in his budget that he was willing to screw old people to balance the budget, if he were to choose to stand firm and provide leadership(and let’s be clear I’m not holding my breath on that one.)
We need to get him out because otherwise there is little standing between him and social security since he hits lame duck status. We are so screwed.
We’re not totally dead here in the South. The railroad is union. It’s one of the best paying employees with better benefits in our area. Had the Democrats not blown things the unions might have had a better shot. As it stands pocketbook issues are the key to Democrats making inroads.
The thing is you got to make the argument and I haven’t seen a whole lot from either side willing to do so.
One more thing about the South (in addition to racism). In the immediate aftermath of the Civil War northern capitalists (carpetbaggers) stripped the region of its natural resources, got the newly reorganized states to go deep into debt (like Egypt at the very same time), took the money and ran, and left the states bankrupt. And it is no surprise that in the aftermath southerners lost whatever little faith they might have had in the capacity of government to help them out. And in the years that followed, they continued to be stripped bare by their state governments. It’s a syndrome.
It’s a free country. I’m sure you will get exactly who you really want next time out. In fact, you should probably emigrate to a better country, because that is your best option. I mean it. I did emigrate, and I live in a better country. Easier than bitching about stuff you can’t change.
I’m an American, I’m not leaving. Change occurs, whether they like it or not.
: )
It’s a feint… they’re trying to put one over on all workers union and non-union.