Behold the most violent rhetoric to come out of the workers’ rights standoff in Wisconsin. It comes from the Speaker of the House:
Speaker John Boehner: “It’s not just Wisconsin. It’s Ohio. It’s Indiana. You’re going to see these types of actions taken in a lot of states because the states are broke and over the last couple of years the Obama administration, the Democrat controlled Congress bailed out the states where they could avoid making the tough decisions. Well, there are no more bailouts coming from Washington. We’re broke. We’re broke! We don’t have money to dish out to the states so all these Governors are trying to find ways to balance their budgets, which they’re required to do. In some of these states you’ve got collective bargaining laws that are so weighted in favor of the public employees that there’s almost no bargaining. We’ve given them a machine gun and put it right at the heads of the local officials and they really have their hands tied. And I think what you’re seeing in these states is they’re trying to bring some balance to these negotiations that when you look at the pay of public employees today and you look at their retirement benefits they are way out of line with many other working Americans.”
You can dismiss the particulars of this pretty quickly. Wisconsin teachers, for example, have given back hundreds of millions of dollars over the past several years and personally capped their pay. All public employees in the state agreed to pension and health care concessions. Public-sector pay is lower than private-sector pay for similar jobs. You can go down the line.
But let’s focus on the image of public employees putting a machine gun to the head of local officials. That’s how these people have been trained to think. The unions and liberals and whoever else is mashed up in their enemy stew are violent thugs who would kill this country and its God-fearing people. That’s the mindset.
Now, I could at this point print all the pictures I took last week of kids in Wisconsin and their families, the everyday people fighting for workers’ rights. I could mention all the polling that shows regular people in full support of the workers in Wisconsin. I could do something really subversive and offer the facts about collective bargaining and what it means for workers. But instead, I’ll just let that image of a machine gun linger there.
Remember not to blame John Boehner for anything if violence ensues.




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Boehner aka ‘the orange man” Obama’s BFF
we real progressive always have known that Boehner is a little off his rocker.
Not Obama!
we must not forget, Obama sit down and talked to his BFF Boehner about OBAMACARE, OBAMA did not sit down with Bernie Sanders
we must not forget, OBAMA sit down and talked to his BFF Boehner about the BUSH/OBAMA TAX cuts for the rich, OBAMA did not sit down with Bernie Sanders
Me Thinks, Obama and the other Trojan Horse Dems will reach out to Boehner and ignore Bernie Sanders.
Boehner proves yet again to real progressives, that talking to GOPers is a complete Waste of Time.
Don’t waste your time waiting for OBAMA and other phoney dems to call Boehner out on the carpet for such an irrational comment,
Me thinks Obama will have Boehner over for a Beer.
If Alan Grayson made such a comment, the OBAMA WH would have reprimanded him ASAP!
Boehner’s rhetoric: None dare call it thuggish
Thanks David.
I can only add, what I always think whenever Boner is quoted; What. A. Dick.
Wait a minute, tell me again what the governor advocated… something about provocateurs?
Boehner, you’re embarassing yourself. Again.
Boehner: drinking much?
I am reminded of the old psychological rule that one should never rely on rational thought and argument when dealing with an irrational person. You can’t get there from here.
Yet Dem leadership continues to ignore this rule and treat Boehner as rational. Sigh.
Notice how Boner is attempting to perpetrate the myth that the right to collective bargaining = unions get what ever they want.
Put a microphone in front of a republican and you can be sure about what will happen …
So when does he queue up the ad with the machine gun sights imposed over the face of the kindly school teacher and/or football coach?
From Plunderbund.com:
===ModNote – link please for quoted material, thank you. ===
Can any one tell me what the quorum is for the Ohio State Senate? 33 senators means 22 quorum and their are 23 Republicans. Am I right?
Shorter right-wing whore for the rich: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!
This is the most obvious case of projection I’ve seen by the wingnuts yet. It is, of course, precisely the opposite.
http://www.plunderbund.com/
Now they’re using “machine gun” rhetoric. Hmmm….who recently shot people with machine guns…oh yeah Gadhafi’s thugs…so… workers are like Gadhafi’s thugs??? Prick…no, stupid prick.
We have to protect the BOSS from the EMPLOYEES! If we don’t the EMPLOYEES might demand a wage that allows them to buy a house, or own a car, or feed their kids! They might even make us responsible for helping them if their arm gets cut off at work!
No no no, unions = Al Qaeda. Just wait. It’ll happen within the next few days. 9/11, Booga! Booga!
It won’t do it again:
Tax Pot if you need money!
Oh yeah you’re right…um workers = unions = terrorists = AQ = 9/11. Having unions will create another 9/11…yeah, that’s the ticket.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen David Dayen:
Update as of 3 minutes ago from Mrs. Norske outside the capitol: people’s access bein’ restricted into and out of the capitol rotunda at least until Governor Moonscape delivers his own eulogy this afternoon…crowd is growing outside.
Mrs. Norske says that the cops on the outside and at the intersections adjacent to the capitol are still friendly and supportive but those holdin’ down the building are gettin a bit squirrily. When she left here this AM she was depressed and I’ve never seen her that way in the 34 years we’ve been together…now she’s back to kickin ass and takin names and we have our spring break next week all planned out and she’s gunna make Madison into our own personal Negril for workin folks!
Seriously Brother David, the longer this goes the more the fascist meme of gangster unions and parasite public workers goes up in a puff of reality. Even the corporate media can not keep the narative together and whatever the outcome in the short term, Wisconsin politics will never be the same as it was 3 weeks ago. “Goodbye” Scott Walker and “hello” to Governor Russ Feingold. And I would love to see Tammy Baldwin escort Herb Kohl to the rest home next election cycle.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THE BASTARDS ARE COWARDS!!
Believe me. It’s coming. I watched MSNBC take the Libya story this morning and spin US seizing Gaddafi assets into “what radical islamic factions do we have to worry about taking power in Libya?” Left. Fucking. Field.
Just like using 9/11 as an excuse because “things are different now”…the pukes’ talking point in the last day or two has been that because of the financial crisis (that they created and enabled), “things are different now”, so they can further erode rights…especially now that they have a new enemy.
Radical fascist fucking factions, that’s who…pricks. They always signal what they’re planning to do.
Go Mrs. Norske!!!!
Boner and Wanker…Doin’ the Beltway Circle Jerk.
“2/14 Changed Everything !”
:D
Funny how exercising constitutionally guaranteed rights to speak, to peacefully assemble and to petition’s one’s government with grievances against it, how expecting the state to honor the terms of hard-fought employment contracts, are things the right, the Speaker of the House, the second man in order of succession to succeed the president considers the equivalent of using a deadly weapon on innocents in government and the public.
Mr. Boehner and his speech writers owe Congress, the government, the states, the American public and employees, and union workers everywhere, an explicit, forthright, honest apology. And then Mr. Boehner should resign. Like Joe McCarthy, he has no shame.
Seconded.
Very well stated.
Our best to Mrs. Flamethrower.
Thanks for the update, Norske.
OT:
Dodd going to MPAA.
How did he miss out on PhRMA?
Keith http://foknewschannel.com/ has caught the NYT trying to back up the anti-union stance of Wisconsin Gov Walker via a long article by a “union man” who gives reasons he is anti-public employee unions – only it turns out the “union guy” worked in a union plant but never joined the union!
Co-Written by No less than Arthur G. Sulzberger, the son of the publisher and official carrier of the Times’ family name and run on the front page with a Sulzberger interview of the “union man Mr Rich Hahan” – only his name is Rick Hahn and he was never in a union. The NYT let the error stand for 4 days before they buried the correction in the inside pages.
You have to love our main steam press – especially the “liberal press”.
And I do miss Countdown and Keith.
Guess he decided on the glamor job. They should all be unemployable and shamed.
Or the banks?
Citizen earlofhuntingdon:
I think that as each day goez by with cameras and real workin people occupyin’ local news cycles the less attention the threatened government shutdown gets. Public opinion is bein drivin by the actions in the states and if Boehner and Rove really shut the government down they are toast in 2012…that’s why we’re gettin’ the hysterical screams from the orange colored ~~~Edited by Moderator~~~ in charge of the House of Representatives.
Banking lobbying job not open this year I guess.
Looks like KO’s site is starting to gear up. Here’s hoping he makes a sizable dent in MSM memes on a go-forward basis. Go KO.
Please tell me why rich men with second families still keep working power jobs into their old age… Or is it these jobs are so easy it isn’t work?
An MPAA gig just doesn’t quite pass the smell test for me. I suspect we’ll be able to determine his angle in the coming months.
Great find.
I detest Pinch. Ever since I saw him on Wash Journal in 2001. A snot-nosed little twerp.
So much for the Gabrielle Giffords Effect. The senseless shooting of one of his Housemates has not persuaded Mr. Boehner or the right to tone down their violent, overblown rhetoric, rhetoric that hopes to persuade the have nots that the haves are working in their best interest, and that anyone who believes otherwise should be taken out and figuratively shot.
Unions are as imperfect as people, though whether they are as imperfect as politicians is an open question. They are not the problem. Mr. Boehner and his priorities are the problem. Our economic problems are manageable, if only those managing them attempted to solve them rather than take advantage of them. Mr. Boehner and his movement seek to silence any opposition to the whims of their corporate benefactors, whether they sell soap, toilet paper, guns or butter in the billions.
Public employee union members, on the other hand, want a living wage for a hard job done well. They want their children and their communities to prosper, not survive on corporate leavings. They want R-E-S-P-E-C-T, exactly what Scott Walker, like-minded governors, and Mr. Boehner and his peers refuse to give anyone but themselves. There’s not much representation in today’s representative government, certainly not in the House of Representatives.
Bingo. Plus high pay, lots of junkets, and people blowing smoke up their asses all day, every day.
Thank You! KO
Me Thinks a lot of trojan horse democrats and trojan horse news papers “NYT” fear KO
Fox News and the NYT have something in common, neither reports the news correctly.
Yeah, it surprised me too. Sumptin up his sleeve we don’t know about. What are the regulatory issues? Ratings for violence, sex. Copywrite extensions? Foreign pirating?
I know little about the industry, so I am shallow with ideas on this one.
Citizen Palli:
“Or is it that these jobs are so easy it isn’t really work?”
Bingo, you win the coverall!! And folks like Dodd can’t keep it in their pants in their dotage so they need ta work for the Ivy League college fund for their toddlers until they croak.
I’d say there’s about a 100% chance of that being true.
“Now, I could add this point print all the pictures I took last week of kids in Wisconsin and their families, the everyday people fighting for workers’ rights”
Are we going a bit wing nutty here? Kids fighting for “worker’s right?” If I were a kid I would want my teachers to be on strike. As a kid, who really wanted to go to school? As for the teachers… I guess the best way to show how much you want children to succeed scholastically, is to walk out on them… ahem excuse me, call in sick.
Second thought: I wonder how many stories you could find just by scrutinizing the NYT & WaPoo corrections items. I never did it when I got the dead tree version every day and I certainly don’t do it now, but I’d guess you’d find a steady diet of gems these days.
He needs to resign.
He is trying to insight violence.
Why did he HAVE to be from my home state?
Run along troll.
I should feel shock at Agent Orange’s incendiary & deliberately inflammatory comment about machine guns. Sadly, while I’m disgusted (ptoui!), I’m no longer surprised by such repulsive behavior on the part of so-called “conservatives.” It’s really quite vile and revolting to witness someone supposedly hired to “represent” all of the citizens of Ohio, plus as Speaker, really all US citizens, stand up on his hind legs and bray out horsesh*t like that. For shame! Albeit I fully realize that sociopaths feel no shame.
Clearly spoken at the command of his corporate Masters (Koch brothers, I’m looking at you) to say the most incendiary stuff possible as a call to arms for the Tea Party base.
PTOUI!!!
“When you look at the pay of public employees today and you look at their retirement benefits they are way out of line with many other working Americans.”
Sounds like he wants most Americans to earn shit in a mad race to the bottom. Doesn’t sound like a winning argument to me.
Thank you. Very well stated and quite agree.
I would ever so much like to be “represented” by responsible adults, but clearly that’s not what’s on offer from those in the corridors of power, whether in Wash DC or elsewhere.
Yep. The focus here isn’t “All Americans should have the ability to earn a decent wage, or a retirement package.”
The focus is “Look! Some of those dirty fucking hippies still earn a decent wage or a retirement package! Get ‘em!”
Yeah, in that they have actual jobs, unlike the millions of Americans who are still waiting for the Republicans to have their first idea about how to improve the economy and create the JOBS that were the top concerns in the last election instead of destroy them by the hundreds of thousands because of the deficit which was not.
It’s a reasonable argument to some conservatives, who have been ginned up to pit themselves against other “small people” workers in order to fight after the crumbs and bones tossed at us by the elites.
Some are waking up to how ridiculous these kinds of statements are on so many levels, not to mention that they’re mostly a big fat LIE of epic proportions. Public pensions are simply not “out of line” with what working Americans should get.
And I note, once again, that Agent Orange places all the *blame* on the workers/unions for whatever false fiscal trevails Boner’s touting. Yet I also note that Boner’s not at all calling out Wall Street for the very high fees often levied on public pension systems for managing the funds.
Recall that Wall Streeters just gave themselves all big fat bonuses totally million$$$$$. Yet Boner’s pointing at public service pensions, which the workers pay into themselves, and which average around $24k per year.
Get. a. clue.
Gee, Republicans, including Obama, just gave the elites a big huge tax cut yet again, which, as everyone knows, is going to – any minute now – result in giant jobs creation, doncha know???? /s
It’s sad. Teachers don’t earn very much money and yet they are villified and threatened by Walker and Agent Orange.
They hate teachers bc they have the temerity to be unionized, which has resulted in the teachers getting a somewhat more liveable wage (it’s not that high, believe me).
Plus they just plain hate public education bc they want the masses to be too stupid to figure out how the elites are ripping them off, and be willing to be trod under into third world living conditions without a protest.
When the Republicans say “jobs,” change it to “profits” and you catch their true meaning – Since they can’t see “profits” from jobs done by government workers, it’s OK to destroy any and all government worker jobs as they don’t count
I never thought that in my lifetime a Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives would use incendiary rhetoric like this. Sometimes it feels like we’re just one shoe drop away from full-fledged fascism.
Boehner must be a life-long member of the NRA to use a metaphor like that!!!
I haven’t figured out if they are code words to the base or a threat to anyone who disagrees. They always manage to use words that express some kind of violence.
Ding.
I figured that out in general terms a couple of years ago before housing bubble burst. cnbc was going on & on about how labor productivity was rising & how the very next day, if not sooner, that would result in more hiring. I sent in an email, which got read on air that stated no hiring, just higher profits.
Only I wasn’t quite that succinct.
The way you put it is quite proper.
I saw him in ‘The American Ruling Class’. He’s a twit.
Mabye it’s both.
Citizen boston33:
I been in Madison 3 times so far and my wife is there right now..the “kids” from the colleges and universities that are gunna be gutted by this larceny and the high school kids who are supporting their teachers because they are beginnin’ to understand that umnless the teachers win there will be no jobs for them movin forward, all these “kids” are doin what students in the 1960′s and 70′s did: they are learning side by side and back to back with their teachers. Eat your heart out you poor deluded Yankee lover.
You made your troll-pay today. Run along.
Bravo.
I am just not impressed by Boner’s Generalissimus-of-the-Soviet-Union act.
Great link… he was extremely eloquent, especially when working his grandfather into his narrative.
Ditto! Go, Mrs. Norske!!!
It primarily strikes me as a dog-whistle to the kind of people who shoot Congresswoman Giffords in the brain, but about whose actions Republican leaders profess to be shocked — shocked, I tell you.
They’ve already got the wrapped in the flag and carrying the bibles part.
Quit your incessant fucking whining Boehner, you little bootlick.
Yeppers.
Norske… Yankee lover? Are we so progressive that we submit to name calling? “Kids”- College and high school students are young adults, not kids. I guess we should go back to the 60′s and 70′s and be progressive with free love and lots of drugs. I hope that your children will follow your lead.
Awww, give the big crybaby his bottle.
Call a D.C. liquor store that makes deliveries . . .
Knut… I am rubber and you are glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you. I can’t believe I just lowered myself to your level. I need to take a shower to get all the name-calling progressiveness off me.
Go back to the 60′s –
if only we could – every year the middle class had much more than the prior year – and the rich had a little more
compared to now where the middle class has gotten less each year post Reagan 1/2/81 – Reagan’s kid refuses to inflation adjust his numbers so that he can pretend otherwise.
Same as to tax take with lower rates – a loss of 30% annually of revenue becomes tax grew – doubled! (actually only 70% even if you avoid inflation adjustments)
As to drugs, the GOP gave us 70% of our prisoners are “drug crime” – it is a great business to be in – building and running private prisons for the states.
As to demonstrators, it is always the college kids and Juniors and Seniors in High School – was in the 60′s, and is now – and indeed it comes as a sacrifice being made by those kids because they are the ones demonstrating can read and understand politics – they are not the “home schooled” that may or may not be able to read – and indeed the kids demonstrating want their education.
Boston toity-tree sounds like a holdover from the army of trolls that Karl Rove reportedly had secreted under the newly-installed, um, defenses under Pennsylvania Avenue, Karl’s Klackers. The witlessness of the patter suggests those who write their scripts are the ones who skipped out on school and went to work instead for the RNC.
Earl of douchebaggery… enough said.