I don’t know that anything has the potential to galvanize public opinion on the forgotten war in Afghanistan. But if there’s anything out there, the ambush of nine boys collecting firewood would qualify. Via MaddowBlog, here’s the revolting account.
The only survivor, Hemad, 11, said his mother had told him to go out with other boys to collect firewood because “the weather is very cold now.”
“We were almost done collecting the wood when suddenly we saw the helicopters come,” said Hemad, who, like many Afghans, has only one name. “There were two of them. The helicopters hovered over us, scanned us and we saw a green flash from the helicopters. Then they flew back high up, and in a second round they hovered over us and started shooting. They fired a rocket which landed on a tree. The tree branches fell over me and shrapnel hit my right hand and my side.”
The tree, Hemad said, saved his life by covering him so that he could not be seen by the helicopters, which, he said, “shot the boys one after another.”
This is just appalling. And very few people out there can even explain the purpose of the war in Afghanistan, at least not without eliciting laughter. We’re shooting young boys we mistake for insurgents in order to ensure the 100 Al Qaeda members believed to still be in the country don’t create a safe haven for themselves. And we’re partnering with a government we know to be hopelessly corrupt, building an army we know to be strung out on drugs, at a cost that the Afghan economy cannot possibly support. Where is the logic in that?
What’s interesting is that the Democratic grassroots has at least started to mobilize on this issue, at a very official level:
The Democratic National Committee—whose leader, after all, is President Barack Obama—passed a resolution at last weekend’s Washington, DC, conference calling for an acceleration of the US withdrawal from Afghanistan more rapidly than the president’s current 2014 timeline. The policy resolution demands a “swift withdrawal” of troops and contractors starting with a “significant and sizeable reduction [of troops] no later than July 2011.”
The resolution may not be a game-changer, but certainly a changes the shape of the months ahead, when war funding and exit strategies are debated in Congress and Obama announces how many troops he will “begin” withdrawing this July.
The goal of Democrats like Rep. Barbara Lee is to “change the president’s political calculus” and encourage his running on a 2012 platform promise of ending two wars – instead of the specter of trillion-dollar quagmires. Gen. Petraeus and national security hawks like John Nagl are lobbying for Obama to keep American combat troops in Afghanistan through 2014 or beyond. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has staked out a position supporting the generals.
This was a party resolution in opposition to a sitting President, which the White House allowed to go forward after initial objections. It won the early support of Donna Brazile, of all people. Nobody spoke to oppose the final version.
I know Barbara Lee basically drove this through the DNC meeting. It has become a major issue in the race to replace Jane Harman in the CA-36 special election, with Secretary of State Debra Bowen mobilizing support for the DNC resolution as part of her first messages to the constituents she wants to lead.
I’m not so optimistic, ultimately. American wars in the 21st century have a habit of just lingering. And the nine boys murdered for no reason will probably end up a one-day story, sadly. But there’s little doubt in my mind that national politicians staking out a position of ending counter-productive wars will be rewarded.




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I’d love to see someone put together a video of all the times Gates has been “deeply sorry” our war machine has slaughtered civilians in Afghanistan. Maybe it would drive home how insincere and callous our nation really is.
There is something deeply wrong with our government and our military that we keep killing people and saying we’re sorry and then doing it all over again and again.
–The goal of Democrats like Rep. Barbara Lee is to “change the president’s political calculus” and encourage his running on a 2012 platform promise of ending two wars–
Obama promised to escalate the Afghan war when he was a candidate while simultaneously promising that bringing the troops home from Iraq would be priority one, he did one and not the other.
Something for everyone to like/dislike in this thread. Yay for diversity.
It just makes me cry. As a father I don’t think I could survive it. The intensity of desire for a more conscious world drives me so that I have to detach because it hurts too much. Do you cry at murder, are you a father, or is this just some political joke in your blind mind. It is not right or left, or political, it is murder of children.
“But there’s little doubt in my mind that national politicians staking out a position of ending counter-productive wars will be rewarded.”; true but that doesn’t mean that our foreign policy will change at all.
I believe it’s a tragedy for the families, what possible good is there to find in a child lost; none whatsoever.
But I was responding to the listed quote from Barbara Lee, not directly to the human consequences of war.
I agree with you. All of this – children, civilians being killed in afghanistan, iraq, pakistan, egypt
Hard working americans being raped daily to pay for the greed of banksters – hard working people of the world being forced to pay for the greed of the bankers – through austerity, food inflation, loss of jobs, homes underwater.
I undertand it makes you want to cry. But know this without us the people going along with it, supporting a corrupt system, allowing them to use our work to fund all these wars, sell weapons to govt around the world, bail out bankers, the politicians and their friends could not do this. We make it all possible, and the question is at what point will enough of us stand up and say no more, and take our countries back
Will perky Katie Couric or oh so “handsome” Brian Williams be covering this story?
This is Obama’s war now, and he is a war criminal just like his predecessor.
encourage his running on a 2012 platform promise of ending two wars – instead of the specter of trillion-dollar quagmires.
As we’ve seen by Obama so far, platforms are just talk, so even if he changes his platform so what. Obama will just say whatever he thinks voters will want to hear in order for him to be re-elected.
Pretty rich, huh? Oh and let’s all stop pretending that the US military, using the NATO disguise, is not going to invade Libya. It is. Even Canada has sent one of it’s destroyers and it will be there in a few days. You don’t have a military buildup for no reason. Yippie for bringing in democracy.
not on my dime
vile mofos!
Thanks for following up with this, David. The foreign media are having a field day with this story.
Look over there! Look over there! New shiny object. New (heh) oil country dictator O has to invade to get rid of.
OT – Bradley Manning Status Update – This is from his lawyer David Coombs and I include the entirety of his post to ensure all understand:
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that on the very same night the US Government charges Manning with “Aiding the Enemy”, they strip him naked and force him to remain that way overnight and then in the morning stand naked at attention in front of the Duty Brig Supervisor.
Yup, just a coincidence I’m sure.
Is it just me because I can’t recall an apology for Vietnam, Iraq, Cambodia, Panama, and a spat of other criminal endeavors. Just a reminder they killed 2,500 to 4,000 civilians in Panama to get one man. Land of the free home of the brave my ass.
Ooooh, looky ~ there goes Charlie Sheen. Hey Charlie, hey . . . why don’t you take some of that crazy sh!t of yours over to Afghanistan and hit some girls. /s
He’s well aware that he’s a war criminal. That is why he’s got his people at the UN working to keep him shielded.
Link.
did you people hear this:
quoting Gates in a speech last week:
Boy, trying really hard to break poor Bradley. Gotta get those false confessions PDQ.
Just bc he sez it doesn’t make it so.
It is my understanding that Britain, at this point in time, is the principal recipient of Libyan oil which indicates a coalition agreement coming up. Shock and awe are at it again. Concern that democracy will prevail in Libya is foremost. Mind you Haliburton has probably been consulted as well as Dick Cheney and his team of vampires.
It’s not just you. Apparently, the word apologize is automatically scrubbed in official government documents
I read this story, especially the DNC part, and my first thought is “well, yeah.” Of course we’re still killing civilians in AfPak – in this instance there isn’t even a feeble “collateral damage” argument possible.
And of course now that Democrats lost the House, it’s safe for the DNC to do this because it isn’t going to happen and they finally have plausible deniability. Pathetic.
Nice. That’s the old Eisenhower stunt, shedding crocodile tears on the way out the door.
So General Babykiller feels remorse. I feel so much safer now.
O just has to kill civilians bc Ds are the ‘mommy party’ and he has to prove his mojo. /Tweetie
@#$%^&*#%^&*(!!!! again most vile mofos……litttle boys gathering wood so their families can cook and be warm…………….mofos
get out your AMBIEN Colin
did old malaria brain really say that?…..oy
Not in so many words.
Wonder if this latest obsession with children by the USG has anything to do with this.
Food-for-thought (why they call it “science fiction”?): “You see, money doesn’t exist in the 24th Century” (video)
Leonard Cohen chaser (sorry it is cut a bit short): “First we take Manhattan” – Leonard Cohen (Feb. 17, 1988, Na-Siensie [German TV])
Sounds all too horrifically similar to what happened at Abu Ghraib. Oy vey. Beyond speechless; horrified; bastards!
A video showing these children torn to shreds by gatling gunfire should be mandatory viewing for everyone except children. That might sway a few minds.
hopeless MIC …cant get out from under…drunk with profits from their smart bombs,that kill kids
But it’s all legit and up-and-up because the US isn’t a signatory to the ICC.
It’s just like sanctuary in a kid’s game of chasers.
All the problems we have in this country and are killing innocent children while our congress is playing games! This evening I got a call from my repug senator.
Repug congress members doing robo call town hall meetings. Discussing govt shut down over budget temporarily.
It is an HOUR long call
They wanted my opinion, yes or no on a temporary shut down over the budget process in two weeks.
I’m telling ya, if I had a way to get to DC when they shut it down it would be the perfect opportunity to make things work better.
the German people were forced to bury the dead at Buchenwald
As we found out in this, the weapons have camera mounts. The videos are used as ____ for the generals and politicos.
Their dirty secret they want to criminalize us for as we refuse to be kept in the dark like their little mushrooms. Only criminals think the truth is criminal.
Nero fiddling while Rome burns.
Exactly!
I think it’s time to not pay income taxes until the killing stops.
this country is a horror show… aside from FDL
Based on the level of the depravity which is now unabashedly put on public display (torture of American citizens, killing of children), there is little doubt that this and this is ubiquitous in Washington.
Fixed it fer ya.
People were murdered for trying to prosecute that case.
Interesting thought, but it’s understood that if federal spending is cut due to a revenue loss, the War Department will be the last to be affected.
That is true. The lead investigator and his young son were brought down in a small plane, Paul Wellstone-style.
Obama doesn’t have a lot of friends in this neighborhood it seems. But there are still many who will support him if he stands for election again. This in spite of the fact that he murders children. Remarkable no?
Pvt. Manning could shit a better man than Obama.
This was an excellent salon, “Whistleblower: Sex Trafficking, Military Contractors, and One Woman’s Fight for Justice” (Feb. 6, 2011), and I recommend reading the transcript. Also, re-review the Vietnam video footage you can find (here’s some of it aired in this Democracy Now presentation). What do you see? More food-for-thought: “U.S. Military Prostitution in Asia” (by Katharine H.S. Moon, excerpted from Sex Among Allies: Military Prostitution in U.S./Korea Relations, Columbia University Press, 1997)
This time, we don’t even have the pretense of collateral deaths, do we?
The murders were of CHILDREN, PERIOD!!
NOT mistaken attacks. THEY MURDERED CHILDREN!!
NO CLAIMS OF MISTAKEN IDENTITY!!
I am sickened by our country at this point. What are we to do? I have complained, wailed, called, written, protested.
Literally, is it time for torches and pitchforks yet?
How long can we tolerate this imperial bullshit? Our taxes are paying to kill children.
Intolerable.
Here is a really good blog post on the importance of Libyan oil and it’s impact on Europe.
http://www.tidalfish.com/forums/showthread.php/299791-5.50-Fuel-this-Summer-amp-Libya-s-Involement?s=3a2f651b6e8fb8dff4bcf67b3779a263&p=1693652#post1693652
Completely off topic, but how do we start a Pulitzer for David Dayen movement?
The guy is just awesome.
I feel like things are so terribly out of control in this country and the world. Nobody is listening; nobody is doing anything; nobody knows what to do.
These incidents inspire terrorism that no army can contain. We need to change things. We’re not safe as long as there are organized groups committing murder overseas in our names.
“There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can’t take part. You can’t even passively take part. And you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all.” Mario Savio
(excerpt from “The Reality of War” by Tenzin Gyatso)
There is a careful deconstruction and recovery process that has to occur and I am relaying a composite of what survivors of torture and war have said. Each one had to address his/her own mind specifically and reach a stable sanity. Typically, they had to have the support and help of another person.
We must really, really bring to a halt this system that by its design indiscriminately consumes all human beings and the natural world that is required for us to survive and thrive, take the wounded to the physicians of the mind and, meanwhile, completely reorient our culture toward the positive, constructive and sane. Given the level of suffering we are experiencing, it seems we all should be highly motivated students of a better way.