Scott Walker is boxed in. He missed his chance to claim victory when public employee unions agreed to his health care and pension concessions, essentially agreeing to a 7% pay cut. But Walker wanted it all. He wanted the destruction of public unions by eliminating collective bargaining. Nothing less would do.
We know what happened next (though if you want an excellent explainer of how it all transpired, Andy Kroll has you covered). The outcome will either be decided by Senate Democrats, or Senate Republicans. Walker will not move. But it appears his colleagues on the GOP side in the Senate may. Stephen Moore sent out an alarm call today:
Conservatives in Wisconsin are getting nervous that three Republican state senators may defect on the collective-bargaining reform vote. It’s still anyone’s guess as to when that vote will take place because Democrats remain in exile to prevent the necessary quorum. But Republicans in the Senate hold a 19-14 majority, so GOP Gov. Scott Walker can afford to lose no more than two Republican senators on this pivotal vote.
On Wednesday, Republicans held a “unity” press conference that was attended by all but one senator, Dale Schultz. But a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll showing that 62% of respondents oppose curtailing collective-bargaining rights for public-sector workers over health care, pensions or other benefits suggests that the GOP position may be losing some support among independent voters. Meanwhile, the unions have turned up the heat by launching recall efforts against at least five of the GOP senators. Conservative groups have initiated recalls against five of the missing 14 Democratic senators.
That’s not all. A local station in LaCrosse has this:
NBC News reports four moderate Republicans are wavering and could break with the GOP and vote against walker’s budget repair bill. Democrats only need three republicans to join them in voting “no” to give them a simple 17 to 16 majority… In a statement, Democratic Senator Kathleen Vinehout of Alma says that Senate Democrats offered to vote on the bill if only fiscal matters were considered.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s that Wisconsin can deliver a great contribution to the nation’s rumor stockpiles. So you have to take virtually everything with a grain of salt. But Republicans are in a tough spot. Scott Walker and this legislation have become poison in the state, and every day the Democrats stay out of Wisconsin, they have to endure more and more of that poison. I’m sure they don’t want the spotlight any longer. And now there are recall efforts to contend with as well.
Lots of the Republicans in the State Senate come from moderate districts. I could easily see them break from the Governor on this issue. They’re probably just waiting for more than one to jump.





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Heh heh.
Rats meet Sinking Ship ; )
I don’t tweet or know how to email you David but here’s some interesting tidbits
from the Calif. “Next10″ weekly budget challenge:
Which government employees, on average, are paid the least in salary and benefits combined? STATE
Which major state funded program has had the largest percentage reduction in the last three years? K-12 EDUCATION
Of the states with the largest budget shortfalls, as a percent of revenue, which state has the smallest shortfall? CALIFORNIA
Is the $127 billion in all state funds that Governor Brown is proposing in his budget more or less than what he spent in his last year the first time he was Governor, after adjusting for growth in population and inflation? 21% MORE
What percent is California’s deficit of the state’s total economy? 1.3%
Pukes wavering…I dunno…could be a trick to lure the Dems back, then kablambo.
# Icarus-fail
Every day this drags on, it dominates Wisconsin media. The whole state is holding its breath on Wanker’s ever-changing lay-off deadlines and the battle over the capital with people who aren’t billionaires.
Wisconsin Re-thugs are making a terrible mistake, they think they have time and they don’t. As DDay, Phoenix Woman, and others have pointed out, the GOP is losing the law enforcement community. A lot of overlap with them and with the teaparty.
IMHO, Wisconsin Dems can do a much better job in their media appearances of painting Wanker and the GOP with the Koch brothers.
The more photos of Gov. Dropout in his suits, the better for Wisconsin Dems.
OT, the Koch brothers and Dick Armey can’t buy people to mount a ground game. There is no “other side.” The “teaparty,” in Wisconsin cannot mount any kind of demonstrations in Madison.
They tried a bus trip and at every stop the union protesters outnumbered the paid people sitting on the bus. The average age of the people on the bus looked north of 75.
They have been able to get a few Republicans to assemble in their own districts to recall Dems, but the Dems appear to have the state lead there too.
David,
I cannot say “thank you” enough for all you are doing. I look forward to your posts since I am gone most days so I have to catch up in the evening.
I got a kick out of one of the threads yesterday where it drew more than the regular share of trolls and one commenter mentioned that you were the reason because you are scaring the wits out of the Conservatives who thought they had this bill in the bag for the R’s and Walker.
You da Man!!!
Reader comments (and voting on those comments) in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel have taken a significant turn to the left.
That seems to be the general trend with the counter-protests that I’ve heard about elsewhere. Generally, the Kochs can’t seem to rally the troops on this issue. I’m not quite sure why, frankly, bc there tends to be a lot of ginned up “outrage” at the “over-the-top” public sector worker salaries and benefits.
Yet when it comes to the rallies, there’s usually a sizeable crowd in solidarity with WI & the mid-west, with few to none in counter-protest.
Of course often what the corp-owned media does is simply *ignore* anything to do with any rallies anywhere. I guess when they cannot manage to “fake” some kind of ersatz “giant counter protest,” then they just turn their heads and look away and do their best to ignore it all.
heh… keep shining that light on this!
Thanks, DDay, I agree: your reporting on this is maginificent! It really serves to keep us well-informed.
The way that these Republicans could show that it is not a trick is to see that Walker resigns and that the Assembly takes back the bill and amends it to represent a compromise acceptable to the unions.
Short of that, it’s a only a rumor in my estimation.
When Walker was on the fake phone call with the supposed Koch, he revealed himself in so many ways and the biggest one was that there is no way to trust him in anything he says or does.
I really hope that there is no caving or compromise by the D’s out of state until the R’s and Walker kill this bill in it’s entirety so that when the D’s do come back to Wisconsin, they can be assured that this ass has not pulled another trick on them.
I know I am dreaming of any attempt on the part of the R’s to kill the bill. Just wishing and hoping…
Tangential– I was wondering if this is a Koch effort to try to distract folks. Note the talk show host in a fur.
Keerrraaaaaaack! The GOP is caving. Walker busted on strategy call with fake Koch brother, Indiana AG canned for ignorance, it’s SOS charged with election fraud, other extremists like NJ gov Christie now running away from Walker.
Wisconsin recall petitions started this week, just as polling is showing Walker in a free fall.
Clear signs that the latest power-grab of this corrupt party, is blowing up in their faces.
– Balkingpoints / www
Don’t trust them. Make them table Walker’s bill before going back.
Governor Walker, allow me to introduce you to the concept of overreach.
Btw, why do you hate the middle class so much?
I hear the recall for the Dems is being orchestrated from Utah, of all places.
Yup.
Charlie Sykes is also getting hung out to dry with Wanker. The thrice-married Sykes is the Wisconsin morning radio version of Pills Lambaugh. I’m sure he enjoys extensive support from the Koch brothers.
Wanker was his prodigy, so this is damaging him.
You’re caution is absolutely correct.
I don’t know if it’s realistic, but I’d prefer them to wait until after the recall-elections put the Senate back in Democratic hands. The level of deceit of which the Wisconsin GOP is capable, is amazing.
I know I saw a couple of WI blogger links to donating to the WI 14. Having trouble finding them again. Any suggestions you might have? Thanks.
Picture that sums Walker’s arrogance right up
Walker will be fine, he’s done his master’s bidding as well as can be expected. the fact that phone call didn’t attract anymore attention thtan it did shows he’s protected by the political establishment from the top on down
The really staggering part of this is how the rest of the WI GOP are following Walker down the drain! They are showing nothing but pure ignorance in standing behind him.
I use ActBlue, because I think they’re the most closely affiliated with Jane.
I’ll be back with a link.
The unions should demand a raise. They shouldn’t just accept the first scrap of meat he throws them. The Democrats shouldn’t come back until he gives everything back and then some.
Act Blue page for the WI14
Dems, bluedogs especially, from all over the country review giving patterns.
They know I never give to the Democratic party, because it’s sold out so badly to the Koch brothers.
I want any giving I do to be tied to a source, as far to the left as I can get it.
Walker admitted to be plotting such deception with the Senate Republicans in that phone call with the guy who he thought was his sugar daddy. You can’t trust them. At all.
non-quioxte, I’m in Wisconsin. Even when I give to Act Blue, for audit purposes, I let my state Senator (Dem Tim Carpenter) know the amount.
On Wisconsin, on David Dayen. Thanks for all the updates, it is great to have an ear on the ground in WI.
I donated through Act Blue today for the recall efforts. It looks like the funding is coming in.
The only fund the 14 Senate exiles can legally use for expenses (hotels, meals,) is the Wisconsin State Senate Democratic Committee. http://www.ssdc-wi.org/SSDC/Home.html
Going to work against Sen R.Cowles next week. Have known him personally for years, have several mutual friends and didn’t think he would ever be this stubborn about union busting. There’s more than meets the eye. Besides the collective bargaining, if Wanker gets away with administrative rule making to sell state assets and rule over safety net programs, WI is still going to be screwed. Moving the $1.2B Zoo Interchange back to 2017, where it was before this new biennium budget(now scheduled for 2012)accounts for 1/3 of the supposed shortfall.
I’d rather contribute money to individual politicians and candidates than to the State Senate Democratic Committee (WI), but I get what you’re all trying to do.
Is there a specific effort at ActBlue for a recall effort? Link?
Yeah, imho, he’s a really dim-witted true believer.
He’s got thrown out of Marquette for cheating on a student election. He got hired by the Red Cross, married some serious money, and then went into politics. He was a county supervisor who rode a recall election, over a pension scandal, to be Milwaukee County Executive. A job that pays around $120,000/year, something he could never earn in the private sector.
His biggest achievement is picking on the most vulnerable. His structural pillaging of the mentally ill and those who took care of them was striking. A JS reporter was a Pulitzer finalist in 2006 for writing about that. The photos are sickening. On his watch the county museum’s five-million dollar ENDOWMENT was looted. A JS reporter won a Pulitzer in 2008, because Walker was arm-pit deep in a new $50,000,000 pension scandal.
In 2009, the county auditor won a prize for predicting deaths from deferred county maintenance. In March 2010, concrete fell of the county courthouse.
Then in June 2010 a 13-ton slab of concrete fell of a county parking lot at the lakefront and crushed a 15-year old boy, also severely injured a young woman.
What’s a word for a politician below an ongoing disaster?
Whatever it is, it applies to Gov. Dropout.
Thanks Ben, enjoyed you on state radio a little while back.
I salute you.
I never heard the Zoo interchange issue explained so clearly and efficiently.
Thank you. I didn’t know this.
Yup. Yup.
WI Public TV Here and Now ripping Walker on education cuts and effects on Milwaukee and the dissembling of the UW.
So what, 4 republicans say they’re not going to vote for it and the dems com back now?
Anybody buying this shit? When has a republican EVER told ANYONE the truth, again?
They’ll vote for it if the dems come back, especially as we have these republicans currently without names.
What are their names?
Slave owners (Koch brothers) passed laws banning the education of slaves.
US competitiveness in a world economy is dependent among other things on education.
Mainly fraud (Koch brothers, congress, Obama, the entire economy, also puppies and kitties are total frauds too).
Eggszacktly.
It still may be a trick. Walker, perphaps, may use these wavering Senators to lure the Dems back into Wisconsin, and then vote party lines.
“The really staggering part of this is how the rest of the (WI GOP) DC Dems are following (Walker) Obama down the drain! They are showing nothing but pure ignorance in standing behind him.” (fixed it for you)
Thank you Wisconsin for showing how real Dems should fight!
Walker’s going to win. It’s just a matter of time. Polls mean nothing. When Walker wins, his polls will rise. Just like Christie in NJ.
That would be my first guess. A trap!
Walker offered to allow collective bargaining on salaries, isn’t that correct? So, clearly your description is over-wrought. And, the question remains: Why should Wisconsin taxpayers pay for the pensions and health care benefits of government employees, when they can’t pay for their own pensions and health care benefits, and government employees contribute very little to their own pensions and health care benefits? That is in fact what these protesters are demanding. Collective bargaining on salaries would remain under Walker’s budget; union members would have to contribute 6% to their pensions and 12% to their health care benefits, and they would not be required to contribute their hard-earned money in union dues–which are a shakedown if ever there was one, since those monies are used to fund lavish pensions and lifestyles for union bosses and to extort legislators to pass bills friendly to MORE TAXPAYER SHAKEDOWNS. Really, all in all, it’s a protection racket, and it’s disgraceful.
Oh, public tv is ripping Walker. Now, there’s a shock.
Get real. The public and even those normally friendly to unions are fracturing; union supporters are disintegrating; that you refuse to face that fact doesn’t negate the fact. There will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth, but the changes are already evolving. If unions want to save themselves, they’d do well to accept that times have changed:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/In-union-strongholds-apf-468830072.html?x=0