Wisconsin State Senate Democratic Leader Mark Miller has had his staff hand-deliver aletter to Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald and Governor Scott Walker, seeking a meeting at the Illinois-Wisconsin border to resolve the impasse over the proposal to strip public employee collective bargaining rights. Discussions have been ongoing but apparently faltered last Thursday, and this offer is an effort to restart them.
In the letter, Miller notes that the public has made their preferences known on the budget repair bill and their support for state workers’ collective bargaining rights. He also says that the public wants both sides to resolve their differences.
Since the bill’s introduction, public workers have come forward to offer economic concessions and Democrats have offered a number of proposals to try to reach a bipartisan resolution.
I assure you that Democratic State Senators, despite our differences and the vigorous debate we have had, remain ready and willing to find a reasonable compromise. To that end, I would ask that you or your authorized representatives agree to meet with us near the Wisconsin-Illinois border to formally resume serious discussions as soon as possible.
My guess would be that Miller is well aware that Walker and Fitzgerald are unlikely to agree to these terms. Fitzgerald did travel to the border to negotiate with two Senate Democrats last week, but he pointedly did not include Miller, the Minority Leader, in that discussion. The goal for the Republicans in Wisconsin seems to be to pick off just one Senator willing to come back to Madison so they can get a quorum and pass the bill.
Polls show that the public in Wisconsin wants a negotiated compromise, and a rejection of this offer will just fuel the efforts to recall Republican State Senators and flip the Senate to a Democratic majority. Sources in Wisconsin say that these efforts are going extremely well, with large numbers of volunteers turning out and thousands of signatures gathered. Tea party groups are attempting recalls on their side as well, but if the success of the Americans for Prosperity bus tour is any indication, their efforts are far more muted.
So there’s serious pressure on Republicans to resolve this and even make concessions, though that doesn’t mean Walker, who has shown no interest in compromise, will buckle to those demands.
UPDATE: And Walker rejects the meeting. That was quick!
UPDATE II: Miller responds:
“The overwhelming majority of Wisconsin residents want Democrats and Republicans to work together to reach a compromise on the Governor’s proposed mini-budget.
If the Governor doesn’t wish to meet with me, I invite him to talk to any member of the Senate Democratic Caucus.
We are all ready, willing and able to meet with him to move Wisconsin forward.”





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Maybe they could try something really novel such as having discussions in the state senate chamber rather than engaging in these spy-novel theatrics.
“Discussions”? What a lovely bit of idealism. This is the GOP we’re talking about here, and in case you have your fair&balanced filter turned on, Gov Walker has proven he don’t do discussions.
Sounds like Obama or some other Trojan horse Dems from DC call the Wisconsin Senators and told them to reach out to the MORON that is Gov. Walker.
the Wisconsin Senators must face the facts, Gov. Walker is an idiot,and that life is short, no need to waste time with idiots.
Rafe our actor is back, have you call the Rush or Beck show yet.
Keith post about people like you today was AWESOME.
Thanks, just read Keith’s post, and it is indeed awesome. It’s all about perception, baby.
Walker is the gift that keeps on giving (per your update). He has the ability to single-handedly destroy the Republican Party in WI. Which would be ironic, since that is where the Republican Party was born (but I digress).
The question remains however, whether the rest of the party, especially 8 senators in particular, will follow him over the cliff…
Walker (et al.) is like King Midas who died of shame when people found out he was stupid.
Republican Senators will NOT allow any amendments and Walker clearly said he will not negotiate.
And Walker says Nein!
Walker is on record several times as saying he will not negotiate, will not compromise and is willing to resort to subterfuge to get his way. The Democrats would have to be idiotic surrender monkeys to return to the statehouse under those conditions.
Which Dems was Walker trying to convert – I assume they are Senators we should be pressuring to stand tough as well.
This dude is a major-league asshole…not that we didn’t know that already, but still…
Thus proving once again that Republicans are
bornspawned without an innate sense of irony…:The hilarity just keeps coming from this guy.
If Senator Miller wanted a more enthusiastic response, he should have pretended to be David Koch.
Disclaimer: I’m not from WI. I have mixed emotions about what Sen Democratic Leader Miller did in terms of writing a letter and offering to meet to negotiate. As we’ve seen time & time & time again, the Repubs, in nearly all settings anywhere in this country these days, pretty much *refuse* to negotiate in good faith, much less to compromise. What’s the point of even asking Republicans, especially someone *clearly* paid off by Koch, like Walker, to have some sort of “meeting” to discuss compromises??
That said, Miller appears to have acted in good faith, and Walker behaved like the rightwing corporate bought-off tool that he is.
Stand firm WI Democratic Senators!! Stand firm!
Power to the people!!
I can’t imagine that the Thugocracy are going let Walker stay in office much longer. The Democratic senators in WI are playing him like a grand piano, and he is costing them big time. I expect him to have a ‘health event’ before too long.
I like it!!!
And concur. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Walker, Major League Asshole.
Has a nice ring to it, don’t ya think?
That’s what she said.
Will you marry me?
Would like to hope you’re right, but I’m not so sure.
I mentioned in another blog that I was at a party this weekend and noted that the tv (which I later turned off) seemed to have literally *hours* of programming about drug-addict Charlie Sheen on several stations.
I pondered this briefly and figure that the Sheen’s apparent train-wreck is just fodder shilled out to credulous citizens to *distract* them from the WI stand-off, amongst other important issues. I heard next to nothing about the large WI rally on Sat in any media… they were all too busy with interviews of Sheen or people “discussing” Sheen, etc. Go figure…
(like: ohmigawd)… heh
Ya wanna get hitched to a sockpuppet now?? lol
I tweeted the other day; we need to convince the media that Scott Walker is selling powdered collective bargaining rights to Charlie Sheen.
No, I just want to irritate it. I’m sure it doesn’t like teh gayz.
I know… just couldn’t resist. lol
Ya just never know…Repubs sometimes love their closet.
I don’t blame them.
If I were a Repub, I’d be so ashamed that I’d want to hide in a closet myself.
Has the Census redistricting been redone yet?
If not Governor Walker has a problem he needs a GOP majority to flip Wisconsin GOP for the next ten years if the Dems stay away long enough then I don’t think he can get redistricting passed without the Dems now in the Senate.
But if we recall enough GOPers then the Governor hands Wisconsin to Obama.
At this late date in these events, are you not clear about the fact that Walker and the Republicans would have a quorum for a vote if just one Democratic Senator returned to the state? And that that vote would be a rubber stamping of what Walker has proposed all along: that being a Union busting bill with the inclusion of ‘no collective bargaining’. I ask because if you are not aware of that then you are either stunningly ignorant, or you are pretending to be stunningly ignorant.
what you just said is very important
in the land of the corporate media,
news that hurts the corporations and elites is not allowed on the air waves.
They’re not idiots. They’re doing what David says they’re doing — making it crystal-clear that a) they’re not the ones being stubborn here, and b) Walker’s and the GOP’s plan isn’t to “repair” the budget, it’s to destroy the unions.
Oh, he’s been saying much the same thing whenever he shows up here. And continues to do so no matter how often he’s corrected. Just go take a gander at his comment history.
Other States using this issue can do the same thing if the Dmes have a Spine that is Governor Walker can by holding on to one stupid point of argument can cost the GOP how many states?
I admit the Dems having a Spine anywhere but Wisconsin is such an iffy scenario that even the Paranoid Right much less us has not considered this before but I think its possible.
If the Dems get a Spine Walker might be remembered in political history as the man who made a President with 9% unemployment get reelected. Political junkies Right and Left will mention Walker as a Moron for decades.
Seems to me that the WI dems should require at least 6 republicans meet with them at the border. Drink them under the table, put them to bed, and head to Madison.
Call a quorum, and win the vote 14-13. Turn Walker and Fitzgerald on their tiny pointy heads.
Apparently permissible from all we’ve seen of WI GOP shenanigans.
Perhaps you misunderstood my comment or perhaps I wasn’t clear: The Democrats that are currently out of state would have to be idiots to go back to Wisconsin under the present circumstances. IF they were to go back under the present circumstances, they would then be idiots. IF they were to take Walker at his word to negotiate in good faith, should such a promise by forthcoming THEN they would be idiots.
I did and what a F###k head
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The link to the letter does not work. The update linked to contains a link to the letter.
How about the legislation itself? Is there a link to the legislation? Supposedly, this impasse has made the public aware of the contents of the bill. What are the contents of the bill?
You can find the bill here.
You mean like the 17 seconds allowed by the Repugs in the State Assembly? I guess you could call that “novel”, though some of us would have other terms for it.
stewartm
Troll.
Edit:
1:35 I haven’t read the bill. I guess this means you haven’t either.
It’s maybe too much to ask for, but I agree.
Even when there is a genuine compromise, such a “victory” by Dems moves the Overton Window yet another step or two rightwards.
Still, if even temporarily, it’s nice to see someone with a (D) next to their name not fold instantly like cheap lawn furniture.
stewartm
Calling Kelly a troll. Riiiiiiiiight.
Just because she linked you to the bill doesn’t necessarily mean she hasn’t read the bill.
She may have thought you’d like to read the actual bill rather than a cliff notes version.
Particularly when the cliff notes version has been discussed here ad nauseaum regarding the no bid contracts and other assorted flotsam Walker included in the bill.
Calling folks trolls is a very popular pastime on this site. It’s shorthand for “I have no ideas or I can’t express the ones I do have.” Lemmings demand 100% compliance.
Have you read the legislation?
There was no link to the bill. There is no link to the bill.
Are you talking without knowing what you’re talking about?
Have you read the legislation? Do you have a link?
Margaret
gvandergrift is a funny troll
I ran into he or she earlier today,
he or she always needs LINKS
Keith spoke about trolls like this today on his blog
http://foknewschannel.com/racketeer-rabbit-republicans
gvandergrift never really post anything.
He or She just always asked for links
look at this thread,
gvandergrift has not post anything about the topic.
he or she, is a complete waste of time, simply ignore this troll
Troll.
Wahhh. Here you go. It’s 144 page PDF and took exactly 10 seconds to find on google.
You’re Welcome.
Well done Kelly. My hat’s off to you, you handled that better than I.
All readers reading this thread now see who the adult is and who the real
trollchild is in this thread.Well played sir.
No, what “troll” means is somebody who comes here with the express purpose to disrupt and hurl insults and accusations, rather than engage in reasoned debate. Kelly only suggested you use a search engine rather than whining about the lack of a link to the legislation and you responded by calling him a troll. That doesn’t make you a reasonable commentator.
Yes, I’ve read the legislation. I found it via teh google.
What took you 36 minutes? Why didn’t you post the link to the bill 1st instead of the response you did? Do you think your earlier link moved the conversation forward? You took 10 seconds. I guess that means you hadn’t already linked to the bill and read it?
Thanks.
Hey! Surprisingly enough, folks can have read the bill a few weeks ago without actually having saved a link just for you.
If you’ve read the legislation, then why didn’t you post a link?
You think you are qualified to judge who’s reasonable and who’s not? You go ballistic on a pretty much daily basis. You’ve never noticed?
I’ll buy you a Nathan Bedford Forrest license tag if you provide a mailing address. Oops. The tag is not available.
Surprisingly enough, people can say they’ve read the bill when they haven’t.
I think that if I’d read the bill and studied it, all 144 pages, I’d know where to find it.
And if you notice, it took Kelly all of 10 seconds to find it. Like he might have known exactly what terms to use to google (instead of memorizing or saving the link)
Right.
1 – Type Wisconsin Budget Repair Bill Text into Google.
2 – Press “Enter”
3 – Select source.
That is all.
I notice Kelly said it took 10 seconds.
Repeat the steps in my comment @ 55. Try it yourself.
LOL
gvandergrift has been collecting links on every thread today :)
gvandergrift is a unique troll, he or she does not post any comments
he or she waits for someone else to post a comment, and then gvandergrift asks for a link
this way you can’t call he or she a troll, because he or she never post comments.
my post at 45 says it all
The point is that your statement is impossible-to-verify-personal information.
You finished reading the bill yet?
Reading the bill would take a lot of time and would require reading lots of other statutes in order to understand. Margaret, however, has read it.
Got a link?
Dang. I feel cheated.
After all that trouble I went to to get you your precious, precious link you demanded.
You should read it.
I hope some influential bloggers (ahem) will start a campaign against the re-election of Supreme Court Justice David Prosser. He is a Koch flunky too.
Oh good lord, are you timing people?
Seriously.
(shaking my head)
Wouldn’t your time be better spent reading the bill and either providing defense or critiqueing it?