Peter King has called any criticism of his McCarthyite “Islamic radicalization” hearing “absolutely insane.” He claims that his hearing, which will look at the cooperation of Muslim-Americans with law enforcement, will expose a radical Muslim community that either looks the other way at or actively participates in terrorism and extremism. This has generated a fair amount of controversy, with everyone from members of Congress to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to faith leaders to columnists to the mayor of the city with the largest Muslim population in the US to a coalition of 50 progressive groups criticizing the hearings for unfairly singling out one religious sect, in contradiction to the American ideal of religious freedom. “We believe that the tone and focus of these hearings runs contrary to our nation’s values,” wrote Reps. John Dingell and Pete Stark in a letter.
If you look at the witness list, you see that the hearings only include one member of local law enforcement: Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca. It turns out that Democrats added him to the panel, so in King’s world, a hearing on Muslim radicalization and law enforcement wouldn’t have any law enforcement perspective.
I saw Baca speak last night at the “People’s Hearing on Defending Religious Freedom,” an event put on by the Southern California chapter of the ACLU. Baca will head to DC today for the hearings. Baca said that the only way to focus on the problem of extremist violence is to look at the statistics. “Since 9/11, 77 extremist efforts or attacks have been carried out by non-Muslim extremists in the United States,” said Baca. In addition, of the last 10 terror plots attempted by Muslims, seven of them have been thwarted by Muslims coming forward. “This is not a Muslim problem, it’s a people problem.”
Baca discussed the strategies he uses in his sheriff’s department, the largest in the United States, to work with local communities of faith. “I have an interfaith council of 200,” including members of the Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Baha’i and more communities. “I believe that interfaith harmony eliminates intolerance,” Baca explained. He also has instituted a Muslim-American Homeland Security Congress, made up of members of the Muslim community from all walks of life. And there are Muslim-American deputy sheriffs that make up a public affairs strategy. “It’s extremely effective to have positive interactions with the community,” he said. “And what we’ve seen is that the Muslim community is as eager to help as anyone. It’s not about spying on the community but about building public trust.”
Other panelists included Rev. Dr. Gwynne Guibord of the Christian-Muslim Consultative Group; Edina Lekovic, the Director of Policy & Planning of the Muslim Public Affairs Council; and Eric Greene, Regional Director of the Progressive Jewish Alliance. They all praised Baca’s work with communities of faith, including Muslims.
A recent study of mosques and the Muslim community shows that mosques help integrate Muslim-Americans and Islam into American politics and American life.
“I don’t believe religions preach hate,” Baca concluded, “individuals do under the guide guise (typo) of religion.”




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Sheriff Baca is somewhat a mixed bag. He’s done some radical redesign ranging from the way the department is run down to how every officer interacts with citizens; all toward greater fairness and respect. On the other hand, he’s shown some blind spots, especially in terms of celebrities and donors. Still, he’s been a huge step up for LA law enforcement and it’s good to hear his prospective. My family was in LA law enforcement from early in the 20th century and it all too often been a steaming pile of corruption and prejudice. Baca was a long-overdue change agent.
I think I’m beginning to understand King’s motivation. It’s to provoke & radicalize Muslims so they start committing some offenses, in order to keep the war on terrorism going.
Yes, that’s the picture I see. And as I said the other day, I think there’s monied interests behind this. Why? Bc the “war on terror” is big bidness & generates a lot of cash-dollahs for the wealthy & well-connected. JMHO
Hey David how come there is no coverage about NPR? Is that old news already?
I had not thought of it that way, but you are mostly always right. Thanks for bringing that side of the picture out.
To say the witness list is half-assed would be a charitable characterization. Any Muslim US soldiers, for example?
A photo of
Peter KingJoe McCarthy from the hearing room.Sorry, I get the two individuals confused.
Baca says “This is not a Muslim problem, it’s a people problem.”
He’s right and he is the kind of leader we need. Rep. King? Not so much.
I happened to catch Don Lemon on CNN this morning interviewing Rep. King ~ lots of body language when the interview was over; Don looked crestfallen and unbelieving.
Last night on CNN, John King had a map of the US highlighting cities with large Muslim populations. UNCONSCIONABLE.
This is sickening.
Direct & indirect monied interests. The indirect one is just keeping people constantly in fear so that the disaster capitalism can be pursued without interruption.
Naomi Klein was guest for the hour on democracynow this morning.
Easy to do. Especially when they act so much alike.
Oh, SheeIT! Another map with sites on it.
I didn’t see that but I am curious why there are so many in Dearborn. Does anyone know how that happened?
Good segment.
I recall that during the McCarthy hearings one of the senators said to McCarthy “Have you no decency, sir.” To this day, that question remains the over-riding tenor of the entire McCarthy debacle. Hopefully, if the King crusade gets off the ground, someone will ask it of him.
Does King hold stock in a private agency that has access to military spy apparatus? HB Gary crap just keeps coming back in my mind.
That sounds to me like he’s already reached a conclusion. Maybe he should save taxpayers’ money, (like he keeps whining about), and just show up on FOX “News’ from now until forever and spout his bigotry.
[pardon the off topic] Space shuttle has safely landed
Thanks. I was going to watch but forgot.
The NPR executive was right on.
Emotional. They shouldn’t cut NASA the way they have. JMHO
If Peter King had any sense of shame, he’d be ashamed of himself. This is all about winking at the crazies in the Republican Party’s base.
It’s not difficult to understand. People migrate to geographical locations where good-paying jobs can be found.
In my Indigenous Hemisphere, “religion” is not the “driver” for migration. If so, here in Arizona, the existing religiously-minded would have completed their overall and overt effort to turn Arizona into a Laboratory for Lobotomies versus the Laboratory for Democracy.
And understanding this difference is easily found on Comprehensive Immigration Reformt. To wit, you are a “first class” citizen is you are opposed undocumented immigrants. And you’re a “second class” citizens if you support the undocumented immigrants. Therefore, among white Arizonans, both Democratic and Republicans, the majority consider themselves to be of the “first” variety. And the Progressives are also relegated to the “second” variety, along with the rest of us, we, the Native American and Chicanos.
Of course, had Congressman King brought his “road show” out to my part of the hinterlands, he would have gotten a “hecklers’ veto” from the moment of his arrival and until his departure.
Jaango
Yep. One of the things that caused me to support Obama over Clinton in the primary was his science and technology speech. That guy is a “great” liar.
Isn’t it all about privatizing space travel and making profit from it?
The ‘baggers have the entire Republican party by the short hairs. I wish the Democrats would spend half the energy doing things for their base that the Republicans spend trying to please the whacko “baggers.
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/03/07/william-shatner-wakes-up-shuttle-discovery-crew/
Did you hear about Captain Kirk being the morning wake up call on the shuttle yesterday?? lol… wonderful, imo. I, too, am saddened by the cuts to NASA, but there’s been opposition to NASA from the git-go from the usual short-sighted, narrow-minded monied-interests who weren’t directly benefiting from it…
Probably at least part of the reason, but we’ve also got the anti-science lunatic fringe to please, doncha know?
Isn’t it all about privatizing
space traveleverything and making profit from it?Fixed it.
Good point, and one with which I fully agree. Both direct and indirect monied interests are behind the Eugene McCarthy tactics of Peter King. Naomi Klein was correct, unfortunately.
He said a lot of great things, but he had no record to show that he would be able to stand up to powerful interests and follow through on any of it. That’s why I didn’t support him.
He’s worse than I thought. I thought he’d be a failed progressive. Instead, he’s a total sellout corporatist pos. And letting himself be painted as a radical liberal as he sells out the American people is just part of his sellout presidential persona. Makes it harder for Americans to stand up to powerful interests.
eh – I can agree with that, too.
the Tea Party people aren’t “just Islamaphobic, but really xenophobic, I mean basically they are, they believe in sort of white, middle-America gun-toting. I mean, it’s scary. They’re seriously racist, racist people.”
Not sure about Dearborn, but I know that there’s always been a big ME community (whether muslim or otherwise) in Detroit, but I’m not sure how they came to be there. I think some smaller contingent ends up living in a particular place in the USA, and then others – family members or neighbors – migrate to the same place, and then people have kids and so on.
We need to expose a radical Christian community that either looks the other way at or actively participates in world-class terrorism and extremism, resulting in tens of thousands of Muslims being killed by Christians annually.
Gotta have something for the superrich to waste their money on.
Well I knew he was no progressive, I wasn’t one who jumped on that particular bandwagon. On the other hand, I knew Clinton wasn’t either.
I’m familiar with that phenomenon. Was wondering what the original attraction was, when it happened, whether they’re mostly from the same country, etc.
The Southern Strategy has worked very well for decades and continues to work well. Shiller is merely stating the truth, albeit he wasn’t smart to get busted in a James O’Keefe sting. However, I have no real issue with what Shiller said; just listen to your pals Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck at any given moment and try to “defend” their outright racism. No can do.
Got a link for your quote? Looks like what the NPR exec said in the “gotcha” sting.
Anyway, it’s painting tea partiers with a broad brush.
I’m sure there are some who don’t “believe in sort of white, middle-America gun-toting” and who aren’t “seriously racist, racist people.”
Where are the tens of thousands of Christians being killed annually by Muslims? I hadn’t heard or read about this ongoing serious of religious genocide, not even on Fox “Nooz.” Do you have a link for that? I’d be happy to go read about it.
I think Nidal Malik Hasan is busy.
Perhaps the low cost of property? Dearborn suffered greatly in the 1970s when half of Michigan’s population moved to Texas. Muslims may have seen it as an opportunity to begin a community of like believers.
I’ll take an imperfect progressive who would’ve gotten some good things done over an empty suit any day!
Have you ever seen a black or a brown person at a TP rally?
It’s a good question. I recall that, at least 2 decades ago, the NYT Sunday Mag actually had an in-depth article about the ME migration to Detroit, but I cannot remember “why” Detroit was chosen. Just know it is so. Guess we both could do a little research on it.
It’s not only King that is involved in pushing this narrative… it is the CIA, intel, FBI and the MIC who NEED an enemy and the people scared and believing there is a threat.
They are actually engaged in false flag operations and various “sting” operations which create phony terrorism threats. Underwear bomber is a prime example of CIA created “terrorism.”
alan1tx is notorious for presenting quotes and data without citation in violation of FDL policy.
Read #33 again, genius.
Well, yeah, I think David Koch manages to buy-off one or two dusky-hued folks to show up at the bigger rallies, and then Fake “Nooz” uses endless footage of those one or two darker-skinned folks in all of their breathless “nooz” coverage of the event. Similar to how there were, like, 3 African-American delegates are the Repub Nat’l Convention in 2008, and they always showed up in any newscasts of the convention (same 3 over & over).
But this thread is about King, not all those other entities.
Which was sort of my original point, which I boiled down to: follow the money.
Agree with what you’re saying, though. More detailed in the info.
Sorry, it came from the BT link earlier today:
Early Morning Swim
By: Blue Texan Wednesday March 9, 2011 4:45 am
•Crazy Teabaggers upset someone called them crazy.
I think it’s called the US Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines.
Me too but by the time my primary got here, I didn’t even have that choice. Clinton has always been DLC all the way.
Geez, I’ve missed those. I’ll have to watch more carefully.
McCarthy lives. It’s hate right out there in our Congress for all to see and it stuns me. I thought we had gotten past that but bigotry keeps raising its ugly head. I guess one reason is that most Arabs seem to own their own stores and aren’t dependent on others. I really don’t know but it’s very painful.
I don’t get it. King attended the same H.S. I did and probably had some of the same Jesuit teachers. Mayhaps Rep King cut a few too many religion classes.
That or his astronaut diaper needs changing more often.
Howdy Pups.
Did someone calling Teabaggers “crazy” upset you? Do you think Peter King is right?
Teddy Partridge has a fresh cross-post ready: Why Membership Matters
I know what you said, but I was *asking* the obverse question. No need to call me a name, if you want clarification.
My point – which I admit may have been obscure (and perhaps seemed aimed at you, personally) – is simply that the obverse is NOT true. What you indicate is that our allegedly “Christian” nation is engaged in killing 10s of thousands of Muslims annually, and I agree with that.
And my question is: indeed, where is it true that Muslims are annually killing 10s of thousands of Christians?? And so why is Peter King insisting on focusing on allegedly “radical Muslims/groups” who allegedly are out to kill Christians. It’s bogus.
Hope I’m clearer here.
From Dearborn’s wiki
well you most likely don’t watch Fox, so that’s WHY you missed them. I did see the 3 AA’s at the Repub Convention bc I watched part of it, and believe me, they “highlighted” those 3 AA over & over. I’ve seen footage of the AA’s at the Tea Party rallies on YouTube. I never saw any of dusky hue in any of the Tea Party rally photos that I happened to see on the Internet.
I get back to my original thought, which is that politicians, like King, are bought off to behave this way. JMHO; I have no proof. I don’t think it matters much what type of upbringing that sociopaths have, more’s the pity.
I know, but in this case, I knew who Alan was quoting.
I could go pull up a zillion quotes from RushGlennSeanBillo that are much much worse than what Shiller said, but as we all know here: IOKIYAR
That’s a valid question alan1tx. Do you think this Islamic witch hunt is a good thing for us to be doing as a nation? Are you so afraid of teh Muslim that you think the ‘baggers have the right idea?
Thanks! There ya go. A mix of religions, but it is a large muslim center (ooooh boooga booga scary scary Sharia law!!!! eeek /s)
I did too but I get sick of people coming around here and dropping things without attribution or citation. The comment was obviously intended to trip up somebody.
Google Black Tea Party Members and get 1 Million hits like these:
Correct and you’re right to point that out. And I agree that certain folks who post here tend to do so more than others. And it is against policy.
Watching them spew their venom on the floor of congress, I too often wonder what price their soul went for. I remember a u-tube of pete king and shrub before an election and king stating not to worry “we’ll count the votes”. asshat of the first order.
Excuse me, I believe that was Joe McCarthy tactics employed by Peter King. Certainly it wasn’t Eugene!
Yeah, let’s not mix those two up
Link to video.
King needs to be removed from office… I suspect his district is full of cops and Irish racists mixed with some Italians who are racist.
The whole crazy district lines is insane and hardly democratic and keeps assholes like him in congress and doing their bidding.
What you said! We can’t have the MIC interrupted.
popyeye99 @ 74: Serve them the “Interruption of Our Sorrow” (hat tip Joni Mitchell ; recorded at Congresgebouw, The Hague (NL), April 27, 1983).
onitgoes @ 3: You might wander over and take a look at Marcy’s latest analysis if you haven’t already.