The oddest thing about the “Ash Wednesday Ambush” last night in Madison is that this could have been done really at any time. The idea behind sticking the stripping of public employee rights in the budget repair bill was to give political cover. Once that was blown, and everybody knew what was in the bill, this was always a safety valve. There would still have been legal questions, but they had this opportunity pretty much whenever. They could have tried it the first day the Fab 14 Senate Democrats left. Heck, I wrote on February 21 about this possibility of stripping the collective bargaining piece. Here’s what I said about it at the time:
I don’t think the GOP wants a standalone bill taking away people’s collective bargaining rights. It makes their action far too obvious. Nothing would start the recall petitions faster.
I also mentioned that Scott Walker was constantly talking about collective bargaining being a fiscal issue, and that Scott Fitzgerald promised that he wouldn’t take up the bill without Democrats present, but I guess things change.
Well, they couldn’t take the pressure, I guess. They must have figured the action was already too obvious, and that the recall petitions would succeed anyway. So they might a well get something out of their short-lived majority.
And yes, they will get something. The unions may be able to get an injunction, and who knows, may even be able to stop this in court. But it would be costly. And if it doesn’t work, they have to contend with a host of issues, including annual re-certification to a membership that knows it’s legally barred from advocating on their behalf. Before long, people will wonder what the point of the union is. In Indiana, union dues dropped 90% after Mitch Daniels stripped collective bargaining rights by executive order (which wasn’t possible in Wisconsin).
What Walker and the Republicans cannot extinguish is the new spirit of the labor-progressive movement in the state. That will be on display today, in rallies across the state which promise to be large. And it will be on display in the state Supreme Court race April 5, and the recalls that will ensue, and all future elections in Wisconsin and perhaps the nation. I remember one sign in Madison vividly: “Remember the party who tried to do this.”
With a trifecta – both houses and the Governorship – Scott Walker and his allies had to resort to a dead-of-night maneuver, despite repeated places where they could have declared victory. Here’s Greg Sargent:
What’s amazing about this latest turn of events is that Walker could have reached a deal with unions and very plausibly declared victory. He could have rightly argued that his tough stance on bargaining rights forced major fiscal concessions. Instead, he dug in, and now Republicans blindly following him have pulled a stunt that will only exacerbate grassroots anger in Wisconsin and leave national unions and liberal groups no alternative but to pour everything they have into recall drives. National Republicans can’t be happy about this overreach: It has galvanized the labor movement, allowed it to restate its case to the public, given Obama an easy way to mend fences with unions, and complicated GOP outreach to blue collar whites in key swing states and districts heading into 2012.
This is exactly the sort of conduct that justifies recalls. This will only escalate from here on out.
Nate Silver expands on the idea about mobilizing the Democratic base. I don’t know if it will go beyond Wisconsin, but I do know that there, the grassroots and the Democratic Party are completely united, and the Fab 14 lionized. This power grab came without any political cover whatsoever from the opposition. And Wisconsinites will remember.
…EJ Dionne gets this right: National Democrats would be wise to follow the Wisconsin model.



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Nothing significant, in DDay’s piece, wordpress published this as a url.
Fitzgerald, Senate won’t take up….
I agree DD, great post
GOP presidential hopefuls have to be furious at this action by Gov. Walker.
this action will make the GOP a southern party, they already were, this makes it permanent.
If Obama was smart, he would turn left ASAP, but this is not the OBAMA way, who knows, Obama will probably blow this opportunity.
Unions and Progressives need to thank Gov. Walker, he gave both new life.
Us progressives always knew people like Gov. Walker were morons, but a lot of our friends did not believe us. Like they say Actions Speak Louder than Words. a wise person once said I can show you, better than I can tell you.
Gov. Walker proved this point. “Today I told someone that Gov. Walker was an Idiot and they agreed instantly”
Gov. Walker actions also hurt the case for Blue Dogs,
Gov. Walker line in the sand makes it hard for Blue Dogs to play in the mythical middle.
GOP = the party of big business
Dem = the party of the worker
(this what Gov. Walker just done, he define parties for the next 20 years)
this will be the new standard all Dems and Reps will be judge.
Gov. Walker ended the need for people like Blanche Lincoln, Ben Nelson, etc.
Gov. Walker actions also made the Kabuki show in DC harder to do.
How you say?
Does Harry Reid, Obama still say they want to work with the Republicans? How is the base going to view this action after Gov. Walker?
EJ Dionne says it best National Dems better follow the Wisconsin Model, reaching across the aisle to talk to GOPERS is no longer acceptable.
Me thinks the Dem Base does not want a President or Dems who reach across the aisle anymore :) thank you Gov. Walker
This is not a dems vs repub issue. this is the people standing up against the corrupt elite who control both parties. where has obama or reid, pelosi etc been while this has been going on. Their silence is deafening and speaks volumes as to what they really think. Sure if what is happening in WI grows you can bet obama and his cronies will try and ride the wave for their own political gain. But remember they have said nothing so far, they have offered no support, and they will only come out and support the people of WI if they see it as an opportunity to get elected.
That new spirit of labor and progressivism must spread like wildfire across the nation. It’s time for the 2nd American Revolution. Let’s hope this time we get it right.
“Reaching across the aisle” was a meme promoted by the corporate media and echoed by the beltway Brahmans. It was a means of neutralizing progressive forces.
Citizen Arrest those jokers!
Put them in this prison and make them work harder and do a better job:
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/prisoners-body-armor/
Wouldn’t this be in violation of the Citizens United decision?
You are right about that. The let’s work together to get this done crap from Obama is nothing more than a sly way of doing nothing progressive.
The current party leadership will not lead. They are too terrified of looking like Democrats. New leaders will emerge from this. THAT’s what we really need. The establishment is still fighting the battles of 15 years ago.
At work and don’t have time to find my way back there but, saw a picture of cops unloading riot gear not long ago. Again sorry for no link. Busy morning for me.
on edit
Thanks for the post, David.
15 years ago??? The people are fighting the battles of the New Deal. That’s over 70 years.
riot gear! Fer Pete’s sake! This is a peaceful protest. Arrrghhh.
I’m pulling up the twitter now. Going to see if anyone is tweeting.
Yes, but I was talking about the Democratic Party establishment. They have their heads stuck in the 90s.
Yes, Obama (or Pelosi/Reid) will eventually mutter something about the middle class, global competitiveness and being business-friendly if they are pressed on this, which is unlikely.
If the cops come storming in, it will cause the pro labor sentiment to grow exponentially.
I hope the movement goes beyond WI and sweeps nationwide. My concern is that as the immediacy of this WI crisis wears off, people will tend to push the import of it to the back of their minds, and (hence) large-scale mobilization will become more problematic. Somehow, that obstruction has to be overcome. Further, there’s a 100% guarantee that a corporate-controlled media complex ain’t gonna step up to keep the issue fresh in peoples’ minds. This is a problem.
What’s really amazing is how Walker and the Republicans, right on down the line, have done pretty much nothing but lie.
They lied when they claimed to be all about fiscal prudence in their election campaigns. They lied when they said they were negotiating in good faith. They lied about the state of the Democratic Senate Caucus in exile. They even lied about alleged “damage” to the Capitol!
At this point, no one in Wisconsin trusts them any more. No one. Especially not the police and firefighters’ unions they’d tried to buy off. When the Dade County Sheriff says he’s not going to be Walker’s and the GOP’s palace guard and kick people out of the Capitol at their mere command, you know that Walker and the other Koch Republicans have screwed the pooch. Not only that, they’ve screwed the pooch while jumping the shark as the shit hits the fan.
No kidding.
via twitter/Mike Elk
Walker to speak to media @ 10:30 am CST at Tommy Thompson center in West Allis. Live stream at http://www.wiseye.org
Just caught these tweets:
RT @MikeElk: RT @vsselkowe They are dragging peaceful non-resisting people out of antechamber. I’m witnessing it #wiunion
Boom! Clink my glass to yours.
how do I find you on twitter ?
I am @cbl2
peasantparty
Any idea who “they” are, the ones doing the dragging?
just saw a tweet; protesters being arrested. Can find no news with my limited seat time and lame abilities. Got anything?
no arrests – simply “escorting out” of ante chamber – taken to bridge in btw floors
Hope that there are protests across the USA this weekend. There needs to be! I’ll be checking things out in my area.
Thanks for the post, DDay, and for updates in comments. Keep ‘em coming!
Just pulled you up and have follow on you now.
So glad I did the twitter.
shuh !
last night,Mike Elk confirmed what we all were thinking – this is bottom up
lots of good info in the piece – incl implications for General Strike
I am one lean mean multi tasking machine, and I simply can NOT keep up today
Scott Walker and every Republican senator that voted for the hyper-partisan power grab last night will face recall and will likely be gone by the end of this year. They sealed their fate by proving to everyone that busting unions is political, not about budget deficits.
lots of folks still resisting , but nothing beats it for real time, you-are-there ness
on edit – plus it’s been shown something as simple as a retweet can help build the necessary exo skeleton for communications networks necessary to nascent democratic actions
Thanks. My outrage is getting the better of me this morning. F*ck these F*cking Felons.
I agree with you totally
Gov. Walker actions just ruin a lot of the Reid, Pelosi, and Obama Kabuki Show.
Obama is no friend of labor (he is working on a Korea type of NAFTA deal)
Gov. Walker, did not help OBAMA here, me thinks Obama NAFTA deal just went up in flames, because no Senate Dems will be voting against big labor any time soon.
this is no longer just a Wisconsin issue.
the corporate MSM noise machine made it hard for progressives to define the DEM party. Gov. Walker and matter of hours made that very easy.
I agree before Gov. Walker, it was hard to tell Dems from Reps, me thinks that is about to end.
Gov. Walker has woke up half the USA and they are piss. Me thinks the day of the mythical middle is over.
Blanche Lincoln type of Dems just became road kill, because of Gov. Walker actions.
My little Dell won’t keep up on a good day hardly. It’s going to blow a gasket today.
Oh yeah, EmptyWheel is all over those King radical Muslum hearings. She is blowing some mean pixie dust their way! ;-)
Agree from Feb. 18, 2011 Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker says his budget-repair bill would leave collective bargaining “fully intact”.
In an all-too rare show of courage, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is calling this a pants-on-fire false.
Exactly. And it’s FREE! If any FDL-er hasn’t signed up yet, go now. twitter.com
I hate to say it, but most people I know are not following this story and the MSM, like the NYT are minimizing it and calling it something less that the outright attack on unions it is.
So, I don’t expect Obomber to change a damned thing he’s been doing all along. IMO, he was put in there to bury the Democrats, not to praise them.
Hear any statements of support for the unions here lately from him? ::::::::crickets::::::::
I hope the farmers do their tractor rally or this will fade from consciousness like last year’s “elections” and everyone will be wondering what Lindsey Lohan is up to again.
for example :D
Ahem! Indeed!
Obama has not said one WORD of support for any Dem that I know of. I could be plenty wrong on that one, but I sure haven’t seen it.
What you said—the Twooph!
With all due respect, this is NOT an attack on unions. This is an attack on the middle class. We are being destroyed from within while some rabid asshole in DC talks about scary muslims.
Oh no! No more collective bargaining rights for workers!!!! They will have to be like the rest of us, who have to stand on the basis of our own performance and capabilities and earn a living on what we individually bring to the table!
I am sure that there will be a raft of injuries caused by unsafe working conditions (a malfunctioning stapler or maybe substandard finger-paints, perhaps?). Some workers will actually (gasp) be able to negotiate a higher wage on their own (of course to the detriment of those who are not bale to ride their coat-tails).
It’s the end of the world.
Forget Korea NAFTA, Obamd froze government wages for 2 years. So much for collectave bargaining.
Where exactly would those wage negotiations take place? In China?
did you see what bmaz & emptywheel did wrt Bloch/DOJ ?
we are going BACK to Prettyman Courthouse today – jesus christos !
About that 4/5 S. C. election
Organize to demand the Wis CON SIN touch screen machines not be involved in the Supreme court election otherwise it’s “WE won, shut up”.
Demand nothing less than a hand marked, hand counted election of the Supreme court justice and the vote counted in open public settings. What a test because the election as I understand it, is for one option, slave or free.
There’s plenty of time to organize this, then if the republican legislature refuses you know the fix is in.
Time, which the people have on their side, is now to demand hand marked hand counted ballots before wondering how could that republican win in this atmosphere..
Just in on the T:
RT @vsselkowe: Crowd now chanting “this is what police state looks like.” #wiunion
From where on the Pacific rim are you commenting?
“Hiring of consulting firm questioned”
Union e-mail delivery systems are on fire all across the USA
the corporate MSM is being expose,
a lot of our members thought we were going over board about Gov. Walker being an idiot and the corporate MSM selling out the middle class, no more! Gov. Walker made the job of our leadership very easy. Spoke with some members this morning, and they all agree we were right, Gov. Walker is dangerous and insane.
remember the Media you speak of did not see the Egyptian revolution coming, we know they want see the revolution starting in their back yard. :)
this is a corporate vs labor war. Gov. Walker made this clear. Michael Moore said this is a class war
400 hundred USA families now have more wealth than 150,000,000.00 Americans welcome to the USA Banana Republic, we are EGYPT literally
me think the corporate MSM, will be the last people to show up to the party.
Well, where do you negotiate your salary with your employer?
Hey freddy freeloader,
this place doesn’t run on air.
Friend $45
Benefactor $120
Gosprey $1,000
Que?
Very busy today. Will count on you for cilffnotes version later.
yes he did,
as I recall OBAMA froze fed wages, with no GOP pressure what so ever
so are you calling OBAMA Gov. Walker? :)
The check is in the mail
She asked first.
and as the indispensable Jon Walker pointed out, (JOIN !!) Walker was simply working off the Obama/McConnell playbook ~ create deficit crisis by giving tax breaks to billionaires
oldnslow @ 41
Well, of course, I know…with all due respect to you too.
I just got off the phone with a condescending man who treated me like I was a congenital retard for being a womon. don’t start with me OK?
In what currency did you send it?
The link below is from Electrical Engineering Times:
Apple Reveals Chinese Child Labor at Suppliers
Boo, I’m not following you. The marketplace works damn well for putting buyers (employers) and sellers (employees) together to agree on things like salaries, benefits, work roles, etc. I don’t need Big Government or unions putting a cap on what I can earn and in return I am happy not to have a floor either.
Most sincere apology. That was not my intent.
Troll morning shift seems to start at 8:30 Central. Makes sense, gives them time for coffee and check their email first…
Send in the plants or goons or whatever they call themselves these days to foment trouble.
Evidently Rush did not give you talking points on answering questions.
I see labor, but where’s the corporate?
Boo, I gotta get going to my Job.
You seem to be put off by global markets now. Until we meet again, I’d challenge you to count all the things that you have purchased from the terrible global market, with all its poor working conditions, because of the better quality and/or lower price. Unless you are buying American 100%, that dog don’t hunt pal.
And to get over their hangovers
No, but I LOVED their last concert tour. Geddy Lee is the Bomb.
Yeah. Texas time.
Ah, another load of libertarian horseshit.
Ever hear of the Koch Brothers? Geeez Loueeeezzzz
According to newly released numbers, over 44 million Americans are now on food stamps. That is a new all-time record and that number is 13.1% higher than it was just one year ago. So how many Americans have to go on food stamps before we can all finally agree that the U.S. economy is dying? 50 million? 60 million? All of us? The food stamp program is the modern equivalent of the old bread lines.
this is not 1950? troll
this is the year 2011
the marketplace is dying!
David Koch, for one
I have a better challenge to you! Name all the products still manufactured in the US!
accepted
And time enough to pull horseshit out of their skanky asses.
I can tell you exactly what we were exporting two years ago.
Scrap metal
Chicken Parts
fan components
freddy,
“freeloading” is not a job.
Tell the Koch brothers that we’ll enjoy boycotting them.
For most people that is easy. The neighbors on food stamps can’t use them to buy toilet paper or paper towels. They can’t even buy soap to shower with!
Heard this morning that the trade deficit with China is widening. Imports up, exports from US down 20%. Guess we can’t sell enough war toys to dictators to keep up.
And just that fast, 23% of this thread is trollage and subsequent replies.
Notice how these scumbags call everybody “pal?”
Yep. You heard what I heard. China had a surprise deficit of their own, which acording to the article I read helped to lower oil prices this morning.
I had a link here earlier. Don’t happen to have it at the moment.
Sorry, I was thinking they were government employees.
AOL cuts 900 jobs after HuffPo buy
Way to go, Arianna
http://www.americansworking.com/
I think that makes Arianna a Republican again.
I never thought she was anything else. She talks a good game but has never stopped being a Regressive.
Blurttt! She sure is a playa. Can’t decide which team to be on. Course, she follows the money instead of conscious.
Gotta take a break to eat a bite. I’m getting the jitters. WI governor needs to be citizen arrested. TODAY!
Where do you think that buy-out money was coming from , kock’s pocket pool pocket ?
Noticed a marked increase in having to sit through ads to read an article.
No, it’s vicea/versa
Sonny,
Come back when you learn some real economics. I’ll be glad to teach you. I do it for a living.
That’s why I can’t get any posts up there. I wondered aloud in a thread whether they had cut back the moderating staff.
People are getting really tired of their posts being thrown off for no good reason.I expect to see that site crumble, which may be what was desired all along.
He thinks he’s getting “better quality” ?
I’ve noticed the “quality” of what we buy going into the crapper steadily over the last decade.
but maybe that’s because the dollar is now so worthless
Isn’t she a personal friend of Jane’s?
The only quality argument that holds water when it comes to global economics should center around cars and electronics. Other than that, normal consumer products manufactured overseas tend to be shite.
The good news: Obama found his shoes
The bad news: They’re golf shoes
I hope they’re comfortable, at least.
linky
Sez Russ Feingold:
And it goes on to say
They could do a lot worse, and I hear the guy needs a job…
I was hoping he’d aim higher. Like, at the top, you know?
Not this cycle, I’m afraid. He could be Governor in about 13 months. That’s a perfectly respectable move from Senator, and leaves his options open for the future.
Tweets from the Nation suggesting capitol access being denied to everyone including Assembly members, anyone have recent info?
We here at http://www.howdyland.com have been covering News From The Great Re-Depression for the past year. We are also the original co-creators of the Onion Radio News, possessed with a desire to focus on the truly ghastly things happening to American citizens in the name of money.
Go to: http://www.howdyland.com/practice-govt-shutdown/
and have a listen.
Just heard the National Democratic Party head say there’s a Republican meme out there that this is being ‘orchestrated by the White House’ and the only way for this to succeed is for the Nat’l Dems to stay hands off – gee thanks, Nat’l Dems! We really appreciate your help, and goodbye to you as well!
Spin, spin, and more spin. This is gonna separate the men from the boys. (And no, that’s not a racial slur but it sure reflects the situation.)
Scott Walker and the Republicans, while I disagree with their goals (and their actions in this particular case), have certainly exposed the lie that Obama and the Democrats were powerless to effect any real “change.”
Why are we giving a free pass to the state senators who ran from their jobs rather than stand and fight in Madison? Just a pathetic showing.
Sounds like OBAMA is waiting for his phone call from one of the Koch Brothers.
I agree
this action by Gov. Walker is going to show Progressives who are our friends and who are our foes.
He is not that into you Progressives and Unions, should be OBAMA new slogan
because one can’t Win the future, when one is getting their butts kick right now.
Obama froze Fed Wages
Obama is working on a new Korea NAFTA type of Deal
If they ever make a biopic about Scott Walker, they should call it
“He’s Just Not That Into U…nions”
Rather than “powerless to effect any real change”, I think Obama and the Democratic establishment are terrified of real change.
Ash Wednesday Ambush, great title. This is Class Warfare, only the People uprising can put a stop to what has been going on for years. This is our Egypt moment, not one leader but many solidified into one voice and one great movment for true liberty an democracy, not paid for by money.
Everything that is occurring daily shows how desperately this country is in need of “a peoples party” once again. The Democratic and Republican parties have been bought and sold. The 14 state Democratic party members who held out in Wisconsin (who should be admired) were “old school Democrats” and not typical of the party at this point.
The Scott Walker types around the country are able to get elected because people do not feel there is a real choice. Until we have candidates that represent real choice, democracy will pay the price.
You say Dems and Pres. Obama are afraid of change. Are you? Are we?
Perhaps you meant to respond to 4cdave? I’ve never said Obama and the D’s are afraid of change.
I have, however, always said their goal was to prevent meaningful change.
Dad, thanks for the offer. But this economy is working fine for me. And since I sell outsourcing services to US customers who are more than happy to move low-skill jobs to India, I really don’t need your lectures.
And yet you keep buying it, huh?
I was just going to ask the question, has Obama or any Dem other “leaders” at the federal level said peep about this publicly? I haven’t heard anything but am wondering if you have.
Oh Bulldinky. This is absolutely and certainly a “Dems vs Repubs” issue. The Republicans are 100% Bought and Sold and Wholly Owned by the Multinational Mega Corporations and the very Wealthy. The Dems are only mostly puppets for the same financiers.
The Problem is the Money in Politics.
No, Obama and the D’s relationship to Wisconsin is much like their relationship to Libya.
Bj, do you enjoy vacations?
Bj, do you enjoy worker’s comp insurance?
Bj, do you enjoy a 5 day work week?
Bj, have your ever used work provided benefits? Medical Care?
All of these were provided by union activity.
The reason you have only 2 weeks of vacation and not the 6 or 8 enjoyed by French and Germans is because of weak unions.
and a final question:
When you have become Galt, what will you do with your success?
I have some suggestions as to where you can insert yourself.
Call us when your job is outsourced. That event is only a phone call away.
By leaving, they stalled the passage of this bill for almost a month and turned into a very public issue where otherwise, the Republicans would’ve just passed this quietly. The Democrats in general deserve a ton of criticism, but I think that in this case they did the right thing by leaving the state.
Do you REALLY think this will “reverberate” in the next election cycles?
I do not.
The ‘pubs have done a good job at convincing people to vote against their own interests. Why do you think they cut educatio0n budgets? To keep people too dumb to think critically.
I can’t count how many UNION members tell how they voted Republican “because the Democrats didn’t stand up for them.”
Add in Women, immigrants, and gays voting against their interests and the old, rich white-guys party wins elections.
Well, you and I see this stat totally different. You see a failing marketplace forcing people onto public welfare. I see a marketplace pushed to the brink of failure partly by a populace completely happy to sit on welfare and let the rest of us pay their freight.
It’s clear I won’t convince any of you firebaggers of my POV, and neither will you convince me of yours. Toe-MA-toe. Toe-MAH-toe.
Why listen to experts when you can just arrogantly pretend to be one, right JG? You let us know how that ignorance is bliss thing works out in real life. You must be incredibly happy now.
So, you think that American workers just started refusing to work in greater numbers in the last few years, that American workers are to blame for the problems in the economy, and that American workers expect more from the taxpayers’ dime than do, say, Wall Street bankers?
You, wannabejohngalt-or-whatever, need a reality check.