Conservatives have successfully demonized the idea of organized labor to the extent that a lot of people probably think that unions are merely there for self-aggrandizement or shaking down taxpayers. In truth, a labor-led working environment is one that can bring benefits to the worker and lift them out of poverty. I find this example from Ohio to be very instructive.
Jodi and Ralph Taylor are public workers whose jobs as a janitor and a sewer manager cover life’s basics. They have moved out of a trailer into a house, do not have to rely on food stamps and sometimes even splurge for the spicy wing specials at the Courtside Bar and Grill.
While that might not seem like much, jobs like theirs, with benefits and higher-than-minimum wages, are considered plum in this depressed corner of southern Ohio. Decades of industrial decline have eroded private-sector jobs here, leaving a thin crust of low-paying service work that makes public-sector jobs look great in comparison.
Now, as Ohio’s legislature moves toward final approval of a bill that would chip away at public-sector unions, those workers say they see it as the opening bell in a race to the bottom. At stake, they say, is what little they have that makes them middle class.
“These jobs let you put good food on the table and send your kids on school trips,” said Monty Blanton, a retired electrician and union worker. “The gap between low and middle is collapsing.”
The perverse implications of this are clear. An economy that doesn’t have middle class jobs in the public sector is less likely to have them in competing industries in the private sector. Worker power is in many ways dictated by the ability to point to other jobs with comparable or favorable wages. Without workers able to collectively bargain, employers hold all the cards, and wages stagnate, with the very richest breaking away from the poor. In fact, that’s the logical consequence of a world without unions – income inequality and grinding poverty.
In previous years, it was manufacturing that offered hope for low-skill workers to move into the middle class and provide for their families. Public service jobs cannot replicate that; there aren’t enough of them, and most require more skills and education. But taking public employees’ right to bargain away just allows all other private industries to breathe a sigh of relief. Employers like high unemployment and no unions. It does wonders for their labor costs.
I think this is why 20,000 non-union members have joined the AFL-CIO’s “Working America” solidarity group chapter in Wisconsin since the Madison protests.
Working America field organizer Kevin Pape said that in addition to the traditional door-to-door canvassing, the group has been actively recruiting new members at the rallies around the state. Pape said that at these protests, they have had large numbers of people approaching them and asking about the organization. “It’s pretty much the easiest organizing you can ever do,” he said.
“People are just thirsty for a connection to a labor movement,” Pape added. “The effort required to get somebody to join has definitely decreased. This is an avenue to join the labor movement, and they’re just jumping at it.”
Working America regional director David Wehde said that in their door-to-door recruitment, many people are eager to show solidarity with the protesters but can’t make it to the big rallies in Madison. “So when we come by their doors and check in with them about what’s going on, they’re literally grabbing our clipboards and saying, ‘Great! What do I need to do?’ That’s one group of folks, and that’s a level of intensity that is new.”
Workers of all stripes – public and private, union and non-union – see the value in banding together and asserting their rights. This is something that politicians can’t take away even if they restrict collective bargaining. And it will prove fatal to those efforts as well.




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There are always two sides to every question – sometimes even more than that. Of the serious folk on the other side, there is a legit concern about the fact that many of our government expenses are being borrowed and need to be repaid. On our side, of course, we are concerned for the welfare of the working people and are vindicated to see the beneficial outcome that you describe. However, neither has complete truth on their side.
In order for our side to prevail, we cannot keep up with unending deficits where we end up owing our souls to foreign interests. Can we develop an alternate approach that takes the cuts out of something other than salaries? or maybe even pensions? Can we perhaps propose some work rules modifications? I was, at one point, on our local county school board. I can tell you that we had a stack of central office folks that did not take part in classroom education. Some are necessary – e.g. keeping the math curriculum the same in all 50 schools. But there are places where unproductive assignments occur in our county and I would presume elsewhere as well.
Consider class size. It cannot be that the school system completely gives up all authority to adjust the classroom size.
The local politicians that are responsible for funding the school system must turn to the homeowners in the county to ask for more money. Right now the average real estate tax for a fairly common home here is over $500 a month and we are starting to see lower and lower positive votes for new schools as a result. And I can tell you that no big time money comes into our local races for Supervisor – it is all local. There is no tax on the rich here that pays for our school system.
The Mayor of Miami just got recalled yesterday and I am afraid that if we continue to insist on spending money that we do not have and must borrow, we will lose out in the court of public opinion. I know that many polls show support for the unions. I will guess that few of those polls ask how much more taxpayers will contribute.
Gelt with the plan.
Tax the rich at higher income tax rates & get the corps to actually pay taxes.
The soln is plain as the nose on your face.
Thanks, eCAHN. Beat me to it!
And yes, Greybeard, the rich can afford it. They actually got richer while the rest of us got poorer in 2009. (And the mayor of Miami-Dade wouldn’t have been recalled if a) there wasn’t a billionaire funding the recall fight and b) if he hadn’t raised taxes, then raised his staff’s salary, then got himself a luxury car at government expense when they already had provided him with two SUVs.)
I often wonder what percentage of ‘baggers were lifelong union members or spouses of same who, now they are retired, begrudge younger workers the benefits in security, benefits and workplace safety they enjoyed? I’ll bet it’s more than a third.
Oh, and the Great Deficit Scare? May I introduce you to Dick Cheney, who said (and I quote) “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter”?
The old “I got mine, now I’m pulling up the ladder” bit?
Repeal the Bush tax cuts and stop fighting two wars would make an immediate and enormous difference. Also, like eCAHN said: make the corporations pay their share of taxes and if they refuse, deny them the perks they are now enjoying but not paying for.
Precisely. My dad was president of his union for several years at one point but he turned into a liberal hating ditto head before he died. I believe he would have been wearing teabags and waving, (perfectly spelled), signs if he’d lived long enough.
LOL. No corp trucks on the roads until they pay for the actual wear & tear they inflict.
That’s a small $$ one, but particularly illustrative of how the corps are ripping off taxpayers. And how easy it would be to reverse the situation if the pols weren’t bought by corps.
“collectively bargain” was turned toxic by Raygun and company, AND
it is an upper middle class noble esoteric inspirational sentiment -
I want as many lawyers on MY side as those crooked motherf’kers have on THEIR side.
“collective bargain” my ass –
I WANT the same number of scum sucking lawyers as the pigs on the other side have – PERIOD.
WE the peeee-0ns can only get the same numbers of lawyers as the pigs by banding together against the pigs.
1 of the great ironies about the net is that people are here for some reasonable truth instead of the squawking lies outta the idiot box, BUT,
we need some f’king fire on our side – instead of just more kennedy school tome of truth -
IF ideas mattered that much, Raygun would have never cleared 2%.
politics is back to what it always has been about – MONEY and who takes from which f’king slaving chump.
rmm.
Without a vibrant and viable middle class, based mainly on an economy of production and consumer demand, the class cleavages in America become rather stark. This upsets the model of a stable democracy. The plutocrats and oligarchs might have a death wish, if everything continues….
This is not to advocate violence (although I am not a pacifist, and, I’ll add, directed violence may have legitimate purposes). But within a generation or two there may well be blood in the streets. America was born in a violent revolution. And it’s always been violent. What do rich people want?
Exactly. Yep, small example but a very good, visceral one. Something everybody can dig.
U.S. birth & continued life in violence: 2 illustrative examples.
1. U.S. revolution displaced more (white) folks, proportionately than any other war in history. Roughly 1/3 U.S. colonists had to flee for their lives & go into exile in Canada.
2. U.S. was one of the few countries where it took a war, and an incredibly violent one, to end slavery.
Citizen greybeard:
Your attempt to create a balance of legitimacy to the two sides of the fascist and anti-fascist argument is full of false equivalence and red herrings. First, the argument over deficits is not about having them or not it’s about how to control them and it is fundamental to the political argument which boils down to one between capital (those who have it) and labor (those who don’t). If in a democracy one can not tax where the capital is by majority will of the represented populace, then we don’t have a democracy and the conversation about deficits becomes a ~~~EDITED IN MODERATION~~~: a lot of emotional heat but no climax. Second, the argument that school district management or the state has the absolute right to control class size is also absurd because there is a point at which class size becomes so large that the system breaks down entirely, which is of course what the fascists want to happen. The suggestions about salaries and pensions is also misdirected since the salaries have already been deferred up front into a pension pool so neither is a source to reduce operating deficits in a public or, I would argue, a private operation. Finally, the politicians at the local lrevel have only the property tax to cover reductions in state aide which of course is sourced from the state income tax. That’s why the fascist governor of Wisconsin also placed a hard cap on local districts ability to increase theri local property taxes to cover deficits from the state.
Your entire argument has been around since the 1960′s when people realized that the regressive property tax was the sole source for local revenues for education and that in order to provide equity between local school districts state aide from the general revenue pool would be necessary.
The assault on public education and the attempt to protect upper incomes from payin their fair share through the progressive income tax has been around for over 50 years and I’m old enough to remember when it started and people like you were hiding behind contrived arguments of “fiscal conservatism” to keep from sharing in the cost.
~~~ModNote: There are much less inflammatory and derogatory ways to convey the sentiment above, and we would appreciate it if you chose one.~~~
Looks like Rep Marcy Kaptur feels the same way about corporate taxes.
Indeed. And what was the cost of genocide against native people, or the cost of a great slave-holding power, and a Civil War? What was the cost of such violence, or imperialism abroad? Again, I hate violence, but as wealth concentrates in corporations and families not seen since the Gilded Age, violence is sure to follow, and, I think, innocent people will suffer the most.
My father, a public elementary school gym teacher (long before unions) was always rigidly conservative. I attributed it to: I pulled myself up by my own bootstraps* and so should everyone else. He was the prototypical American story of coming from a very poor immigrant parents, so he got that right & I always gave him allowances for that.
Your father’s story similar?
*What he failed to consider was that his physical & mental endowment was considerably above average. He was never able to put himself in the shoes of someone who didn’t have his innate endowments.
Oh I hope it takes place soon. And I hope it’s Obama who is dragged from the White House and made to stand trial for treason. The Republicans have to go but they are acting like Republicans. The Vichycrats have betrayed us.
Citizen Margaret:
The only way to snooker a good snooker player is to take his cue away from him…so take the Democratic Party back at your local level, get progressives elected at all levels and in the Congress, run “favorite son” candidates in the state primaries to keep first ballot votes away from the incumbant and then march on the Democratic convention in North Carolina and give Obama and the evil spawn of Ricard Daley a taste of history teachin by example. 1968: a very good year!
Not really. My Dad’s family, like my Mom’s, had been on this continent before the United States was a country. Both families were working class though. My Dad was career military until his family started to grow, then at some point he left the Air Force and joined the Texas Air National Guard. So his history was the US Navy during the Korean War, several odd jobs, then the Air Force for 15 years or so years, then the TANG for 20 years. He earned his living but was a part of the biggest “government program” there is for decades. Not that he would have put it that way but that’s the reality. My Mom was socially very conservative like my Dad but politically liberal. My Dad was conservative to the core but didn’t go batshit crazy until the last few years of his life.
You reminded me of my father. He used to say around the dinner table how he had to walk five miles through the snow in Massachusetts to go to school. I told him, aren’t you glad you live with us now? And when he told us to clean our dinner plates and think of all the starving kids in China, I asked him to name two. He was a violent man; it’s amazing I’m still alive.
Bill Cosby has a joke about his father walking to school barefoot and uphill both ways.
Interesting history. Thanks for sharing.
There are a lot of reasons to be conservative, I guess.
Sorry to hear of your father’s violence, and happy to imagine that your presence here indicated it ended with him.
My father was only mildly violent (wooden spoon on your palms if you disobeyed. The magnitude of the offense was not material; in retrospect it was my stubbornness that drove him nuts).
My father grew up in Clinton, MA. My home town was Buffalo, NY.
My Dad was pretty violent too. I left home when I was 15 because of it. Without going into the circumstances, I was very….disappointing to him. One day he kicked me in my ribs – hard. While I was on the floor, clutching my side he told me, in these words:, “That hurt me worse than it hurt you. It hurt my foot”. I left that very afternoon and didn’t see any of my family until I was in my twenties. We reconciled eventually but to the day he died, he claimed he couldn’t remember doing that and maybe he couldn’t but he wasn’t drunk or anything, he’d just got home from work.
That kind of thing stays with you.
Bill Cosby ripped off every U.S. person living in a cold climate. That joke predates him by decades.
I loved walking up & down the snow banks in Buffalo to & from elementary school in Buffalo. 0.4 miles one way, no school buses in the 1950s & we went home for lunch, so I walked 1.6 miles/day from K-8.
Citizen Margaret:
Fear is the driving force in American life and it is the basis for our political psychology. And of course fear is all we have left as we age through times of crisis and change that threaten the fundamental assumptions of our lives…hang in there Sister Margaret, your parents’ lives are verified and justified by your existance and the sadness you feel for their fears just verifies your own humanity.
I’ve worked hard to help turn Bexar County blue but I look forward to getting back to Austin where I belong and working from there again. Can’t let Travis County backslide.
Yep, conservatives are afraid…and a little bit of a Sociopath.
Thank you Citizen Norske. That means a lot.
Citizen Margaret:
Kick ass and don’t waste time takin names.
Back in the days when public schools were funded in FL by bond referendums many of them failed because the retirees didn’t have children or grandchildren in school here so they saw no need to pay for schools. This led to property taxes being used to fund public schools.
Tovarisch
Yes, the deficit issue is not that they should be entirely eliminated. Without some deficit there would be no T-Bills, no investment with the ultimate safety of US obligations. In fact there would be no place to invest social security trust funds. They need to be, as you point out, controlled. The political question today is when are they out of control.
Not sure who the *edited in moderation* are.
I live in Virginia and here the state contributes funds to the local school districts based on the general wealth of the county – “the composite index” awards the state contribution. In my county we get very little state money. About three quarters of our county budget is for the school system and all of the funds come from homeowners. And state law requires that commercial and residential property be taxed at the same rate. There is no way to tax rich folks.
All I am saying is that there needs to be some middle ground.
*MODNOTE: some terms are not acceptable, even when the use is quoted*
MOD
Did you consider taking it out of the original?
MOD
Good – I don’t like that kind of defamation either
These policies must be in the Democratic Party platform for 2012…
Permanently end Bush tax cuts
End the foreclosure crisis by giving bankruptcy judges the power to order reductions in mortgage principal owed
Immediately set up a national infrastructure bank – run by engineers, not politicians and invest $2 trillion over 10 years to create jobs now and increase productivity later. Put millions back to work. Fund with millionaire’s tax
Invest 6% of GDP yearly in R & D to create quality jobs long term in areas like biotechnology, alternative energy, clean technology, etc. Fund with a 7% national sales (innovation) tax
Reform Education – Raise educational standards through a national core curriculum. Advocate the end of tenure for teachers. Make higher education free to families that can’t afford it to encourage upward mobility. Fund with financial transactions and bank tax
Reform Budget – balance the budget by raising taxes on the super-rich, contain the explosion of health-care costs, end agricultural subsidies, stop corporate welfare, cut the defense budget, end the wars (another form of corporate welfare)
Reform Health Care – add the public option. Allow Medicare to purchase drugs. Give MEDPAC wider authority. Allow drug re-importation
Reform Wall St. – break up the big banks and strengthen the Volker Rule
Reform Federal Elections – enact the Fair Elections Now Act. Matching funds. $100.00 maximum donation.
Reform Social Security – raise the ceiling on income subject to the Social Security tax to $180,000
Create Carbon Tax. Proceeds reduce payroll taxes