US media, which filters everything through US interests, has been writing a variation on the story that Ali Abdullah Saleh’s ouster in Yemen would cause national security problems. That may be true, but the possibilities it describes are already on display throughout the Arab world. Libya, where we did attack, could become a haven for terrorists in a chaotic post-Gadhafi aftermath; we know almost nothing about the rebels we’re supporting. And Bahrain is already a proxy battle between the Saudis and the Iranians, so any hope of avoiding that is done. As for the idea that a civil war could erupt without Saleh, well, again, we’re seeing that elsewhere, and given the lack of credibility for Saleh and the number of generals who have switched sides in Yemen, and the active separatist movement in the south that was around before the uprising, I’d say that’s the current state of affairs. Heck, I remember maps with “North Yemen” and “South Yemen,” the two countries only came together in 1994.
But this is all a moot point if Saudi Arabia abandons Yemen and forces a quick solution.
Saudi Arabia would like to see a quick and smooth transition of power in Yemen, where Mr Saleh has been clinging to power in spite of weeks of protests and the dramatic narrowing of his support base, say analysts close to the government in Riyadh. And the kingdom is now concerned that the situation could devolve into a Libyan scenario in which Mr Saleh uses his presidential guards against the people and the army, transforming a revolt against the regime into a civil war.
“For Saudi Arabia, the end results for any mediation will be to guarantee stability and a smooth transition of power,’’ says Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi analyst. “The kingdom will not fight for Saleh … We have very bad experiences with him. The man’s survival makes no difference.”
If the Saudis had an interest in protecting Saleh’s rule, they would probably do what they did in Bahrain and come to his aid. But they are not likely to interfere in this case. I’ve heard the same scare talk that the Yemen uprising has been stage-managed by Iran, similar to talk about Bahrain, but the Saudis wouldn’t be so quick to abandon Saleh if that were the case.
Riyadh has propped up Saleh in the past, even after he supported Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait. But they have also kept close contacts with the Yemeni military. I imagine their preferred outcome is a military coup.
If Saleh has lost his key ally, he’s probably gone in a matter of days, although the new government in Sanaa has approved a state of emergency, so maybe he can hold out longer. But none of this guarantees a democratic transformation responsive to the people in the streets.




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all manner of unconfirmed reports of Saleh withdrawing foreign currency from Central Bank past few days
Now let’s see the Saudis (and the US) withdraw support from Bahrain’s leadership.
The Saudis must have gotten some convincing offers from the coup leaders or whomever is expected to come out on top. They don’t do anything that they don;t perceive as directly beneficial to them (the ruling caste), personally. Just like us.
Yep. Spot on. I view the Saudis as DC East. The only reason they’re doing this is they stand to profit.
If Saleh is not supported by “The Kingdom”, he’s a goner, IMO.
Disappointing and irresponsible of you to repeat false Saudi/US propaganda in this article, saying:
“Bahrain is already a proxy battle between the Saudis and the Iranians”
There are no Iranians in Bahrain. Saudis there are torturing and murdering peaceful democracy advocates, most of whom are Shiite. Saudi propaganda falsely claimed that Iran was involved, giving Obama’s thugs an excuse to torture and murder, to protect from the imaginary “foreign influence,” as President Obama’s violent puppet Bahraini Government called it. Most other left-leaning sites & competent journalists pointed out the falsehood rather than repeating it.
Please, please, please, it is very important to tell the Truth about Bahrain.
NO Iranians are there. 56% of the people in Bahrain are slaves from India. 85% of the remainder are Shiites, many of whom are peacefully demonstrating for democracy, not battling for Iran as you incorrectly assert in your article. They are being punished by Obama’s puppet’s thugs with torture and murder.
Watch a rerun of the last Daily Show to see someone ridicule your position:
Jon Stewart pointed out that the Shiites are “battling” by getting hit with bullets.
Truth to Power, please!
Saleh has yanked AJ’s license:
I’ve been wondering what happens to Al Jazeera when the protests hit Qatar. They have the same despotic monarchy system as all the rest.
Dear Dave, WTF? Libya which we did attack could become a haven for terrorists?????!!!??? What the FUCK do you think Qaddafi is! You are in need of an editor.
Yes, please!! Of course, Bahrain doesn’t much count to the MOTU because they will be totally out of oil in 10-15 years.
Qaddafi is a despotic dictator and war criminal.
David’s assertion is referring to a place without the government structure to police itself, thus allowing foreign terrorists to take up residence there.
No water for crops, corruption, no jobs how will the Saudis fix these problems besides sticking in a new President?
Replacing the CEO doesn’t fix a bad business model unless the leader is willing and able to change it. So whats the new plan for Yemen? No plan that doesn’t include water and jobs won’t work. I suggest drip agriculture and plants to turn sea water to fresh water.
They’re not attempting to fix it, just to placate the demonstrators.
See Egypt’s new law banning protests and strikes.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, dday, for your remarkable command of the obvious. And for once I’m being genuine & not snarky. All of that has already occurred, and the genie can’t be stuffed back in the bottle.
Now would be a great time for O to really look forward, not backward, but we all know the reason for that slogan is to avoid looking forward so we can keep repeating past mistakes.
Overthrow the Saudi-derived, US Military guided, Sunni Royal dictatorship And give the 70% majority Bahraini Arab Shia democracy? With the US Fifth Fleet HQ in Bahrain? Are you kidding?
then this plan by the Saudis is doomed to failure its as doomed as Bush’s bailout of the airlines and tax break for SUV’s higher gas prices was the cause of those failure’s.
Higher gas prices cause higher food prices, higher food prices and jobs are causing these protests ( along with a lack of water in Yemen).
If the Saudis don’t fix the cause well they will have Al Quieda on their doorstep they will wish they had taken the cheaper route and created jobs.
The Turks told both Iran and Saudi Arabia to quit it over Bahrain. The Turks if they take sides in this conflict could change everything in someone’s favor.
The Turks I bet are still miffed America did not back them NATO member when Israel attacked their ship. A Turkish fleet in the Persian Gulf can’t be fired on by the Americans.
And thanks to Bush/Obama unilateral action has precedence Turkey can decide to stop Bahrain killings.
The Turks won’t get involved? Well the ruler of Mecca is suppose to solve disputes in the Muslim world. The Saudis have not been very good rulers of Mecca.
Turkey stands for the little guys they gain Cred among the Shia for coming back to Mecca. If Shia Iran has no problems with the Turks then what Arab state can stand against a new Ottoman Empire?
We don’t think of things like this the Turks, Arabs and Iranians do however.
“Abandon” implies that S.A. was previously a strong supporter of Yemen, which is not true. S.A. backed the royalists in the long war that took place in the 1960′s after the Iman was overthrown by a military coup. The Republic of Yemen was founded as a socialist-nationalist secular state, modeled after Nasser’s Egypt, and the Saudis hated having that bad example right next door. Yemen & S.A. continued to squabble over their border until quite recently.
Also, it’s wrong to say that the Saudis supported Yemen during and after the first Gulf War. It’s the exact opposite. Many Yemenis were working in S.A. and sending money home, and the Saudis threw them all out, and the loss of that money plus the flood of unemployed men returning to Yemen almost caused Yemen’s economy to collapse completely.
So their position on Yemen is pretty irrelevant I’d say.
No it sounds like the Saudis want to keep the country in chaos so that one day the monarchy might return. The Saudis are Monarchs themselves after all.
Your information suggests the Saudis have motive to destroy any non monarchy government. So its not stupid as I first thought this is by design.
Do you have any clue about the geography and climate of Yemen? Large parts of it are very mountainous and farming is done on terraces which capture every drop of rainfall. They do have quite a bit of rain(20-36 inches annually compared to Saudi Arabia 4 inches per year) due to moisture that comes from the Indian Ocean during the monsoon season. The main reason for water shortages in Yemen is because half of the water is used to grow qat instead of food crops.
Also the idea that the Saudis have the ability to “stick in” a new president of Yemen is ludicrous.
That’s a non-starter; the royal Imams are long gone and never coming back. I do agree that the Saudis don’t mind Yemen being weak, but too much chaos means they will be living next door to Al Qaeda, and they don’t want that either. I also think they are helping Bahrain’s govt because they are fellow royalty.
Oh my, get the smelling salts. The Saudis are being inconsistent.
The calculus is this. Yemen will likely be more stable without Saleh than with him. They judge that Saleh let events get out of hand before he cracked down. Bahrain is small enough that the GCC can impose “stability” for a time. I think that the Saudis might have miscalculated on Bahrain. Meanwhile the royal family is putting out $20 billion in jobs (in the religious police?) and making a few “reforms” to try to co-opt the reform movement there.
But Saleh has produced a popular movement that crosses tribal, regional, and religious divisions and numbers in the hundreds of thousands. Smart folks in the military might see the Egyptian model safer for their continued employment. The resisters, as in Egypt, will be the personal security forces associated with Saleh.
On Libya, Anita McNaught, who is in Tripoli for AJ, has an interesting question. If there have been significant civilian casualties from the international coalition attacks, why is it that the Libyan government media have not “waved the bloody shirt”; they have in the past. And the rebels are not averse to doing that. What is it that the Gaddafi government does not want the world to know? McNaught found this very strange given the heavy presence of the independent international press in Tripoli.
Saudi Arabia: Authorities Arrested 100 Shiite Protesters
The Saudis are arresting anyone who calls for demonstrations.
Silence from the hypocrite war criminals in this Administration about the Saudi government needing to respect peoples’ basic human rights, including the freedom to demonstrate peacefully.
The PR disaster of their operation in Bahrain has got to be weighing heavy on the Saudi minds as well. They have their own internal problems. Sending their military all over the place to help autocrats suppress citizens certainly wouldn’t strengthen international support (or at least silence) in the event they engage in a (more) brutal crackdown at home. I also imagine adventurism for such purpose would likely inflame internal grievance of their own protesters – which probably isn’t what the Saudis are wanting at this point.
The range of available actions seems to be somewhat constrained by their own circumstance at the moment regardless what their preferred outcome in some of these conflicts may be.
Regardless of why they need water either more water or to better manage their water drip agriculture would let them stretch the water they have.