A lot of polls have come out in the past couple days showing Scott Walker’s rising unfavorables in Wisconsin. But Walker won’t be on the ballot anytime soon. Just a week from tomorrow, Wisconsin voters will go to the polls in another statewide race for the state Supreme Court. And there’s been precious little polling of that race between incumbent Justice David Prosser, the Republican former leader of the state Assembly, and Democrat JoAnn Kloppenburg, an Assistant US Attorney. But if we’re to believe Robert Costa at National Review, that race is a dead-heat, a bad sign for the incumbent.
Two sources with knowledge of internal GOP polling tell us that Prosser and Kloppenburg are near even, a bad sign for the incumbent. “She has driven his negatives up,” one source says. “It will be hard to drive hers up. Her lack of judicial experience should hurt her, but it also makes her harder to pin down. The question now is: Does the Right have enough resources to counter the Greater Wisconsin Committee’s millions? And even if they do, is it too late? It is going to be touch-and-go for these last few days.”
This is pretty bad for Prosser, as these elections are typically rubber-stamps for the incumbent.
It’s amusing that the Greater Wisconsin Committee, a progressive group which has done independent advertising in the race, is depicted as some kind of behemoth. We know that the lobbying group Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce are soliciting “unlimited and undisclosed donations” in support of Walker. The Wisconsin Club for Growth is also intervening on Prosser’s behalf. Incidentally, without Citizens United, such undisclosed corporate donations would have been illegal.
It has been known for some time that both sides would spend a lot of money on this race in independent expenditures (the candidates themselves are taking public funding). Neither candidate lacks for resources spent on their behalf. It’s just that the message connecting Prosser to Walker, one which until a few weeks ago Prosser was proud to own, is sticking.
This is a special election and the state Supreme Court race is practically the only thing on the ballot in most districts. Turnout, expected to be at only around 20%, will be a major factor, and the enthusiasm gap looks to favor the anti-Walker, anti-Prosser crowd. The race has become part of the narrative for reformers in Wisconsin, and the fact that the Republicans are thumbing their nose at the entire legal process cannot help Prosser.
Finally, I notice some discomfort with a state Supreme Court race being on the ballot at all. But this is standard practice in Wisconsin, and I’m not about to criticize a process that has existed in the state well before anyone heard of Scott Walker.





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but wait, there’s more …
Prosser’s Hometown Paper Endorses Kloppenburg
projected 20% Turnout – just a reminder Wisconsin has same day registration – jes sayin’ :D
Quality quantitative analysis from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. I’m taking nothing for granted, but this appears to bode well for Kloppenburg. Public employees are wild card on April 5 and beyond
If this is even close after all that has happened, then
then I don’t even know what to say.
I don’t either. especially since Kloppenburg is getting a big boost also because her two strongholds, Milwaukee and Madison, are having big local races that will boost turnout even more. (county executive in the former, county executive and mayor in the latter).
Thanks for bringing this election to our attention dday. It will be interesting to watch.
That’s my feeling, cathy. With same-day registration, and low expected turnout, any activist get-out-the-vote effort should remove this justice easily. If not, then the crowds aren’t being reflected at the polls, and Wisconsin state legislature stays Republican.
WTF its not about money we had thousands of voters march in the snow for weeks this judge election is important to the marchers.
Frankly I wonder about the polling was it likely voters polled or all voters? Frankly considering that Gov Walker never got even half the crowd to show up for even one day of protest that the Unions did, I must admit I think Walker got elected like Bush *cough * won in Florida.
Even the Koch brothers couldn’t pay people to protest in a Wisconsin blizzard if we can have an honest election I think we will win and that 20% turnout number will go up quite a bit.
I must be misinterpreting the use of “discomfort” in the last paragraph. All judges
MUST be regarded as political animals. And it’s about time their voting records
were routinely available to the voters (for example,do they tend to favor
corporations? lengthy sentences?). I live in MI,where they are also on the ballot.
Here it’s darned difficult for the public to find out just who they favor.
But their big donors know!
The TP “rallies” are always really small. It’s the corp media that make them larger than life and teh utter moral depravity & corp donations that makes pols spread their nether cheeks open to them.
Citizen cbl:
We don’t need no stinkin’ same day registration for this race…all the signatories to the recall petitions and the anti-Walker teachers and union folks not in recalling districts are gunna be out en mass for Kloppenberg and most of ‘em are already registered. I live in a VERY red small city (used to be solid old ethnic labor Democratic) that has already disgorged almost 1,000 recall signatures and the proggressive base of the Democratic Party in this area that has been shut out of the party since the mid-90′s has taken over the local party structure and these folks are in this thing right through 2012. Even if Kloppenberg loses, the state senate will flip this June and Walker is toast but if she wins Walker may be impeached before he is recalled and there will be no union decertification anywhere and Walker’s budget is just a bad piece of pop art.
Norske, that is so wonderful to hear.
Made my day, thanks.
Citizen Cathy:
Well, in most states here in the “heartland of democracy and anus of progress” gettin rid of an encumbant judge in an off year election is neigh on impossible and even in this climate Walker is not on the ballot and there is an incredible amount of money goin into red districts that don’t have recalls goin on in them. If money can whip the fascist base in some of these non-recall districts then it could be a race (but I doubt it).
If anyone is feeling masochistic, they can google Charlie Sykes and Prosser.
Sykes is a really talented entertainer and dominates talk-radio in Milwaukee. I wish I had evidence to confirm the payouts he gets from the Koch brothers,
People’s Republic of ChinaU.S. Chamber of Commerce, and other wingnut outlets.As expected, he’s lobbying hard for Prosser.
This is an incredibly huge test for unions and progressives in Wisconsin to show up at the ballot box. Thanks to fdl, Phoenix Woman, cbl, and many others for giving this election the attention it deserves.
Like the optimism, hope you’re right.
Citizen KrisAinCA:
Another thing that may make your day is that the new leadership in the local Democratic Party and in the progressive groups that are organizin’ around this whole issue are women…this doesn’t bode well for the good ol’ boys who controll local politics especially school districts and have been used to beatin their teachers unions like a drum at contract time.
That’s more good news! On Wisconsin!
Citizen BooRadley:
I been sick with the “political” virus since my English teacher father threw out Doctor Seuss and replaced ‘im with Karl Marx for my mother to read to me at night…I been in the street, knockin on doors, telephone canvaasin’ and generally makin a nuisance of my self for the bosses for over 50 years and I am here to tell you that real politics is happenin all over this entire state and across the entire country north of the Mason-Dixon Line. In our district alone the organizers projected 500 signatures necessary from this area to have a shot at meetin’ the recall threshold and we got almost 1,000 in a month and we haven’t even started diggin’ ‘em out of their bunkers yet. It’s hard to overcome the battered spouse syndrome when you are a progressive in this country but don’t disrespect those who are givin ya the straight shit from the outhouse, Brother Boo.
Diebold by a nose at the end.
Citizen Flamethrower –
am following Recall events/progress closely. as previously commented, I have a great deal of faith in the good people of Wisconsin to remain organized and do exactly what they have to do to flip this bi*** :D
and your note to Kris above further underscores my faith – have believed since early on all the events in WI are being generated from the bottom up – the only way to get anything done
Agreed the MSM is pumping up the Baggers to imaginary heights but in an honest election will high voter interest only Diebold can make a GOP win possible:) If they do that we demand an investigation into vote rigging.
Yeah thats the Attitude we need to win!
Karl Marx for kids? Sounds like an FDL book club Fav if you can remember how your Mom explained it to you:)
this is awesome news! norske
me thinks the dems in DC fear a grassroots take over of the DEM party
one must ask? why did the Dems in DC not make 2010 about the Bush tax cuts?
(this should you every progressive how evil dems like Obama are)
The Germans just voted using hand marked hand counted paper ballots.
The means justifies the end means just that, especially elections.
There is no other explanation for Corbert winning Pa with 3 million registered Reps against 4.2 million registered Dems, something smells fishy.
Whatever the election question is, Diebold has “the” answer.
Agreed we need to focus on GOP vote fraud we need access to a machine and our own computer people to look at the code.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_gubernatorial_election,_2010
Walker was elected Governor by 124,638 votes, or 5.76% of the 2,160,832 cast.
Walker was elected Gov in an election with 60% turnout. So to force him into a recall election him would require a number of signatures = 15% of registered. However, those of the Dem persuasion are expected to account for only half of the electorate = 10% of registered, next week. Another way of saying this is that if everybody who votes for Kloppenburg next week signed a recall petition for Walker next year, only 2/3 of the signatures needed would be achieved. Walker will not be recalled.
yet again you are incorrect!
Gov. Walker did not just piss off Dems he piss off a lot of Reps. see Obama is only Dem that thinks people like Gov. Walker are rational,
Are all Unions members Dems? yes or no (that would be no, Gov. Walker change this equation, now most will be DEM)
Gov. Walker will be recalled, but before he is, some of us progressives are going to send him a thank you letter :)
Gov. Walker done what Obama the trojan horse refused to do, and that is wake up the Dem Base.
Obama saved the GOP by not making the bush tax cuts the only issue of 2010!
(because Obama and his trojan horse buddies wanted to give the super rich a tax cut)
but god sent us progressives Gov. Walker
Gov. Walker also is going to make it easy for us to rid the Dem party of trojan horses like Obama, Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman,
how many dems are going to talk about working with GOPers now? not the ones who want to get re-elected.
trolling is so 2008 gvandergrift
Wouldn’t that be less than 1% ?.
.576 % to use your number
Dems are really energized: the next statewide election following the winter festivities is a tossup. Yup. 20% turnout expected. 85% turned out in the the 2008 Presidential election. Sounds like a goldanged UPRISING to me.
Thank you for your sincere and earnest post. I am laughing. Hardy har har. Hardy har har.
1% of those cast would be 21,608.
Meanwhile, Walker continues on his rampage against the working people of Wisconsin:
State stops collecting union dues, starts charging more for health care LINK.
It is hard to believe that after all of the protesting against the repugs it is such a close race for the prosser position. Are there really that many people that are walker supporters or, at least, not opposed? I would have thought that she would be blowing him out by now. With all of the money coming in from all of these new ‘individual’ supporters, it should be easy to make up lying ads to attack Kloppenburg to get the uninformed riled up against her.
Also, to underscore some earlier comments, who controls the voting boxes?
Cathy, before the Republicans went on their rampage, Prosser was expected to win in a walk. In the early February primary, he relied on name recognition, incumbency, the residual good feeling left over from the November election and $407,000 in TV ads from the Club for Growth — three times as much as all the other candidates of all parties combined — to coast to an easy victory over his primary opponents.
But then Walker and the Fitzgeralds threw their temper tantrums, and it’s been downhill ever since for Prosser.
Bear Country: See my comment here. Six weeks ago Prosser was set to win this in a walk. Not anymore.
See here.
Prithee, say,
Why would this be a “tight” race at all?
If you want to help GOTV, phonebanking for Joann Kloppenburg is a good idea:
http://www.kloppenburgforjustice.com/
Because Prosser, with his Club for Growth money (in the early February primary, they spent $407,000 on TV ads for him — that’s more than three times what all the other primary candidates of all parties spent combined), his incumbency, and some of the residual leftover “rub” from the November election, was originally slated to win going away.
That’s not happening now.
Wish someone could tell us out-of-staters how the signature collection is going in the other senatorial races, other than Hoppers. I understand that Hopper’s recall effort is over the top and now they are just collecting padding votes to offset any bad sigs, etc. but we never hear how things are going against the other Repub senators
I just got this email from a friend who knows the writer:
Hi everyone,
Some of you have asked me where you could contribute or what else you could do to help the folks in Wisconsin. Since Gov. Walker rammed his bill through, the efforts are focusing on recalling legislators who voted for the bill. I contacted one off my professors here in Monterey because his wife is a professor at the U of Wisconsin (can’t find a comparable job in CA). She sent me the following message.
“In my district (Randy Hopper’s) the movement to recall was grassroots. Then after we had organized (via Facebook primarily) the National Democratic Party stepped in. Well over 1000 people stepped up to collect the 15,269 signatures we need to recall him. I suspect they will have them all by the end of this coming week. I don’t think any money will be needed until the elections are held. No candidates can announce until the recall is done. They are separate processes.
The news coverage has been completely off base and amazing for me to see. I have been in Madison to protest 4 times. The first was the first day of the protests (February 15) and there were about 40K people. It was not even on our local news that night. The last time I went (2 wks ago today) there were about 190K people ….and not one single arrest. There is very little trash on the ground and the police and firemen are protesting with us. Walker has had to call in ‘other’ enforcement agencies because the Capitol Police were sleeping in the rotunda. This has not been reported as far as I can tell.
If you really want to know what is going on Facebook is the more up to the minute source. I will point to you several groups if you decide to join. If you do, you can make up an odd screen name to hide your identity . There are thousands of clever sign pictures posted, updates from various groups, and moral support.
There was a great blog written by a UW Madison law professor Cronin. It is long but worth reading. http://scholarcitizen.williamcronon.net/2011/03/24/open-records-attack-on-academic-freedom/”
Pretty interesting that the media wasn’t doing much to cover the protests. The Bee grossly underestimated the size of the rally in Sacramento too. She also told me that there is a lot of information on Facebook. If you are on Facebook and are interested in knowing the groups who are posting things, let me know and I’ll get back in touch with her.
I don’t do Facebook although I’m beginning to think I”ll have to give in to it sooner rather than later.
Barbara
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When is the end of “this coming week”? Does the e-mail have a date?