This blog’s proprietress takes a lot of heat from critics for a letter she wrote with Grover Norquist calling for an investigation of Rahm Emanuel over his activities at Freddie Mac. It was seen as the worst thing of all time to team up with Norquist, who has only malign intentions at heart.
Surely all of those critics will now line up to castigate the NAACP, who today released a report that Norquist, David Keene of the American Conservative Union and others have embraced about prison reform.
The report examines escalating levels of prison spending and its impact on state budgets and our nation’s children. It uncovers a disturbing connection between high incarceration rates and poorly performing schools.
Misplaced Priorities tracks the steady shift of state funds away from education and toward the criminal justice system. For instance, in Houston, Los Angeles and Philadelphia, more than 65 percent of the lowest-performing schools are in neighborhoods with the highest rates of incarceration. Researchers found that over-incarceration most impacts vulnerable, often minority populations, and that it destabilizes communities. The report offers recommendations that would help policymakers downsize prison populations and shift the savings to education budgets. Connecticut spends approximately 400,000 to incarcerate a juvenile offender per year vs. less than 12,000 a year to educate a young person.
This is a very positive development. For years, the default position on the right has been a “tough on crime” approach to prison policy. This ends up leading to mass overcrowding and the highest rates of incarceration in the world. In addition to the consequences for human rights and human dignity, there are serious consequences for state budgets. Over the past few years, some conservatives have slowly backed away from the “lock ‘em up” strategy on criminal justice, and toward a smart on crime approach. This addresses mass incarceration as a problem to be solved, and emphasizes treatment, rehabilitation and intelligent parole policies to reduce recidivism and lower the prison population. And it has been successful in such far-flung places as Texas and Kansas.
There are downsides to the budget-focused prison policy solutions. It could lead to putting ex-offenders into debt by making them pay for their jail time. But the NAACP report has the right idea. The connection between incarceration and education hasn’t been well-studied, but they make a compelling case. And the fiscal burden is pretty obvious. Prison spending is accelerating at several times the rate of education spending and it doesn’t have to be that way. And Norquist is on board.
“We’re keeping certain people in prison for how long — at $20,000 a year, $50,000 a year in California,” Norquist, who is president of Americans for Tax Reform and a self-identifying tea partyer, told Roll Call. “Does that make sense? Do you really want taxpayers paying that much?” [...]
He added that the NAACP’s new report — called “Misplaced Priorities: Under Educate, Over Incarcerate” — is a timely answer to the “fiscal urgency” facing lawmakers. It makes the case the sentence reductions, rehabilitation alternatives and educational opportunities will help reduce the nation’s high prison population. To emphasize the point, the NAACP has purchased billboards inside airports and along major roads in cities such as Los Angeles, Philadelphia and Richmond that say, “Welcome to America, home to 5 percent of the world’s people and 25 percent of the world’s prisoners.”
“If you look at the state level, you can see Democrat-led states, Republican-led states all making common sense, what we would call progressive — but in the most basic ways they’re also conservative and libertarian — reforms to adopt a smarter, safer and more cost-efficient approach to criminal justice reform,” Jealous said. “We think it’s important to actually make that bipartisan support visible nationally.”
This is the opportunity for a paradigm shift. We can and will have the argument about what to do with the budget savings afterwards. But if Grover Norquist wants to jump aboard on smart on crime policies that reduce state and federal spending, reduce the prison population and reduce crime while increasing post-corrections productivity for ex-cons, I’d welcome him.
The full report is here and an NPR interview with Ben Jealous is here.
Forcing ex-offenders to pay for their incarceration is yet another perverse policy that makes successful re-entry next to impossible.
As I’ve written before, though, an exclusively fiscal approach is one that can produce some very counterproductive impulses, such as putting offenders in debt in order to close budget gaps. All that does is encourage someone to seek illicit, and therefore untaxable, income.




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PLEASE, the only reason scum like Norquist would get involved is if he sees a way to funnel that money over to his private prison buddies.
David –
The problem isn’t being hard (or soft) on crime, it’s deciding what should, and should not, BE a crime.
And Matt, I’m no fan of Grover but I do think there are issues where he really does have a genuine disgust for government spending. And moving that spending over to private prisons doesn’t eliminate the spending. I look at working with Grover the same way Churchill and Roosevelt looked at working with Stalin: it’s okay against a worse and common enemy.
And doesn’t this picture just make sense at a time when education money is being cut, prison cost rising….Hope a very good plan evolves…Just think about New Orleans, for example. Very, very poor education and recent big bucks for incarceration.
“The problem isn’t being hard (or soft) on crime, it’s deciding what should, and should not, BE a crime.”
Excellent point. Wachovia/Wells Fargo can get away with a slap on the wrist for $170 billion worth of money laundering for Mexican drug cartels. Meanwhile the U.S. DOJ is prosecuting people for cultivating cannabis plants.
There are two proposals the conservatives constantly come up with for paying for prisons–privatizing them for “efficiency” and requiring prisoners to perform work to pay for their incarceration.
The first amounts to patronage corruption and the second is clearly slavery (or the current euphemism “forced labor”).
What exactly is Norquist proposing? I don’t see signing a letter as indicating a proposal. Just like I thought and still think that Norquist and Jane Hamsher had dramatically different reasons for signing the letter that they both signed about investigating the current Daley of Chicago (yes, it now has become a title like “Caesar”).
Sorry if already posted, Off Topic
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reporting that a ?GOP? (not sure) district uncovered enough votes to put Prosser in the lead by 40.
Latest vote counts give edge to Prosser
This is a little off topic, but I’ve seen idea that using prisoner labor is somehow “slavery,” or “unconstitutional” a lot, and I wanted to make one quick point.
Sure, it’s involuntary servitude (I don’t think you can quite get to “slavery,” since prisoners aren’t legally property, but I get your point), but it’s also specifically acknowledged as legal by the 13th amendment. See below, I’ve bolded the relevant portion.
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
I have to agree with you. Also, please explain why a 20 year old can get 15 to 18 years prison time for one joint while a murderer gets two years and parole?
If Wall Street soon doesn’t give back what it jerked out of people’s 401K and Pension plans they might just find themselves thinking about the prison population problem!
We can use that section for lots of other things today such as slave wages and the fight against corporate rule.
Link please.
I think a more clever argument would be to apply it to the forced-birth movement than voluntary employment.
I’ll go get you one, but I’m sure you’ve heard of this happening. Here in the south it is normal routine.
Do what? You have to explain that one to me. Maybe I’m multitasking a bit too much here, but you lost me.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen David Dayen:
The report simply restates the obvious that everyone has known for a long time. The incarceration crisis has been building ever since the 19th century and especially since the 1920′s when the federal prison began its growth cycle. We have never delt with the basic question of the purpose of our incarceration system: revenge, deterrence or rehabilitation. Indeed, until we deal with reduction in incarceration rates by decriminalizing much of our criminal code violations we will not be able to address the basic question behind the problem. The privitization of all public insitutions has become a problem that must, in fact be, solved before we can even begin to discuss the purpose, direction and structure of those public institutions.
I am really sad that once again, apublished FDL post turns itself inside out to find “common ground” with the Randian fascists when this time they want to privitize and socialize the expense of a prison system that has replaced chattle slavery as an economic engine and the most brutal of social and political controls in a mass society. Come on Citizen Dayen, you can do better’n this.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THERE IS NO COMPROMISE WITH FASCISTS OR PRISON GUARDS!!
make the anology that banning abortion is defacto “slavery,” or “involuntary servitude.”
How many ways?
Here is your first link for costs and rates of arrests due to pot.
http://www.skeptically.org/recdrugs/id8.html
If anyone believes that Grover is truly concerned about prison reform, they’ve lost their fucking mind.
Grover only cares about reducing taxes by gutting domestic spending.
My bet is that Grover has pals in the corrections industry.
Sure it will cost more in the end, but when has consistency been a value of conservatives?
Citizen badgerexpat:
Criminal code for the state of Texas and the census of Texas state prisons…you can look it up but don’t waste everyone else’s time researchin’ what they already know and you are too ignorant and blind to have learned yourself.
And here is your jail term link:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/524483_10
I can respond wholeheartedly, but would rather not turn this thread into an abortion pro/con article. What I can tell you is that the first rule of humanity is to keep Big Brother out of my uterus!
Firepups:
Let’s not give any more time or attention to rightwing trolls who have the mental dexterity of an anesthetized rock.
I didn’t realize it was trolling at first. However, I really would like to debate castration law with it. (grin)
I had no idea Jane was a proprietress. This will command more respect from me than she has already earned.
Citizen PeasantParty:
ROFLMAO…I’m afraid that this particular troll wouldn’t get it because he’s never had a pair.
Yeah, I don’t want to go too far off-topic either, but you’re misreading my posts.
I said I think a more clever argument would be to apply it (the 13th amendment) to the forced-birth movement than voluntary employment.
You said you didn’t get the argument, and I explained, stating that I think it’s clever to make the argument that banning abortion amounts to forced slavery.
Thanks for the link.
how the hell does saying that I think laws banning abortion could be attacked under the 13th amendment make me a right wing troll?
Whatever, no need to get even more off topic, I think we can all agree that america’s incarceration rate is too high and leave it at that.
NF is a right-wing troll. Don’t feed the…
badgerexpat,
My apology. Seriously did not understand until you clarified.
Norske is not a troll. We both just read the comment the wrong way and misunderstood.
X20!!
we may not always agree but we do discuss like the good pups we are!
No, he’s reporting on the NAACP, who are apparently “turning themselves inside out to find common ground with the Randian fasacists.”
Maybe the NAACP cares more about getting people out of prison than observing such small-minded tribalistic hatreds. Do you really think it’s better to leave millions of African American men to rot in American prison than it is to make cause with someone you don’t happen to like? That’s a complete moral obscenity.
It’s outrageously petty to discourage the NAACP from doing what they can to save the lives of millions of people who have their lives destroyed by the American prison system. I can’t even believe anyone would think in such small-minded terms, as if the categories in some tidy world-view were more important than someone’s life.
speaking of the Right wing in your uterus… This is what Grover really wants!!
Thanks David.
Things are so out of wack these days that opportunities to improve our society pop up in the most unlikely places.
A good deal with sell itself, we just need exact details as to what is on offer from Mr Norquist.
Citizen Jane Hamsher:
Come on Sister Jane…we’re both too old and tired to do the deflection “I didn’t say it, they said it themaselves” game. Whatever the entire report says, if the purpose of bringin’ this issue up is to cast light AND heat on the huge problem of the prison population in the country, then my cricicism of this post stands…why bring up Norquist and his obvious prison capitalism solution? My comment and criticism stands, the issue isn’t how to capitalise prison costs and rehabilitation …the problem is the privatisation of our public prison system. Adress the argument directly, Citizen Hamsher, you’re in the kitchen and you’ll get some heat…deal with it!
Why on earth should anyone care what reasons Norquist has for doing something as oppose to caring what it is he does? I refuse to listen to anyone defend a Democratic politician for doing the wrong thing because they do not really want to do it (i.e they really care about X but cannot support it for some reason). I also find criticizing a conservative for doing the right thing for the wrong reasons entirely beside the point.
I’m sure that the drafters of the 13th amendment never thought that there would be financial incentives for incarcerating prisoners for the benefit of private corporation contracts.
Typical labor by prisoners was on public works projects or manufacturing for state use. Not manufacturing under contract to a private corporation. The first use was no different than the road juries that built early roads in the US by drafting citizens from a neighborhood on a random basis, just like trial juries.
Another way of putting it is that everyone has a Venn Diagram as regards issues. When one’s Venn intersects with another’s Venn, who one despises one of two things happens;
-One maintains one’s original principle
-One changes his/her Venn makeup
The first is principled, the second is tribal.
Citizen Norske:
Where do you find privatization mentioned in the story?
And if some of the thrust is releasing people, then surely whether it is from a public or private prison doesn’t matter.
O-bot heads explode in 3-2-1…
That thing with you and Norquist is what caused me to take an interest in you Jane. You haven’t disappointed me yet. Please keep up the good work.
Norquist makes me puke. But if he actually wants to reduce the prison population then more power to him. It’s astounding that it took him this long to see that prisons are an expense for his beloved taxpayers. But then he IS an idiot.
We have people on board for legalizing marijuana because we need the tax revenue. Now this.
Here is a link (I hope).
Cindy Lauper – Money Changes Everything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=202o_JS7E04&feature=related
Thank you for highlighting the horrific incarceration problem. Criminal justice and incarceration is not working. We must find a workable solution.
The Donovan prison in San Diego found a way to save lots and lots of money.
Their rehab, drug, and education programs reduced their recidivism rate from 70%! to 21%. Not only did the programs save salvageable lives, and the cost of so many ex-offenders returning to prison, but most important they reduced new crime and new victims.
Using faulty logic and false economy funding for the programs was almost
eliminated. How many new crimes would have been prevented if that decision had not been made?
By the way, Those convicted of murder are the least likely to recomit a crime once released.
FOLLOW THE MONEY. Who profits from failed criminal justice and horrifically
overcrowded prisons that are bankrupting states across the nation?
District attorneys and prosecutors who are promoted for winning cases and harsh sentences at any cost;
Tough-on-crime scare tactic politicians hoping for votes;
Guard employee unions;
For-profit-contract-bed-privatized-corporation prisons;
Parole department in California where everyone released is on parole;
Three strikes law that sends people to prison for 25+ years over petty crimes like stealing a pizza;
The bail bond industry that benefits from unnecessary criminal justice practices that increase incarceration;
Rigged police line-ups that get promotions for detectives;
The list goes on…..
You may have misinterpreted, but given the overall tone of NF’s posts, I’ll stand by my assessment.
I’ve got to go with PeasantParty here. NF has no tolerance for any viewpoint but his own, and I find his schtick a little mundane, but he’s hardly right wing.