Wow. Uh-oh. I hope the right people are keeping an eye on things up there…

Query: have they counted all the absentee ballots yet?

Pardon my OT David – Over at the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel website, they’ve posted this new opinion from April 1, 2011 today:

Authority to Use Military Force in Libya (14 page PDF)

What about the authority to use military force in Lichtenstein? Is the ink dry on that one yet?

I wish Marcy wasn’t at a conference right now, so she could do a close reading of this!

Thanks for the update, David.

Why do I feel more than a little uneasy about “clerical errors” and “found ballots” that give a republican the lead.

I’ve heard conflicting reports. It could be that some counties included absentees and others didn’t. However, absentees could have been postmarked on Tuesday, so it’s not credible that all absentees have been counted. And then there are provisionals.

Diebold save us./s

I’m thinking it is a CYA ruling because they have CIA and Blackwater types there.

Heh! It wouldn’t take a week or two to count paper ballots.

Shit!

You can bet that the repugs are scurrying like crazy to find ways to lose D ballots and other ways to get more R ballots. Until we get control of the ballot in an unbiased count, no matter who wins it will be tainted.

What is so galling is that Prosser declared his loyalty to the governor’s actions. That has to at least require he recuse himself should litigation regarding the governor’s manipulations make it to that court. And why he would still get that much support from the voters is obscene!

As I (and Stalin) have said before, It is not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes, that matters. Joanne better have a great legal team and organize it fast.

see the updates, Kloppenburg is gaining votes too. I suspect she’ll be in the lead after the end of the official canvass and before the recount.

Gonna get to Lichtenstein right after they’re done with the one for Canada. Oh Canada!

Someone I believe told me that Feingold was elected by 32 votes in his first WI Senate victory.

I’ve included the same info over on bmaz’s latest post, so perhaps he, Cynthia Kouril and some of our other fine FDL Legal Eagles will jump in to cover for Marcy.

I’ve also emailed the info to Glenn Greenwald, so the word is getting spread!

You should feel uneasy. Especially if these mystery votes are coming out of Waukesha County. That place is a cesspool of political scumbags and villians.

The Republican Party in Wisconsin won’t hesitate for a second to steal this election. There needs to be a big media push in the coming weeks to declare this a Kloppenburg victory so that any attempt to turn it into a Prosser victory doesn’t sit right. We have to set the tone for this going forward. Kloppenburg took a good first step by announcing victory yesterday. Now she and other prominent figures need to keep themselves in the media spotlight speaking as if Kloppenburg winning is a done deal.

Have no prior knowledge of Waukesha County, so thanks for the info. As the rude one would say, you can count on a motherfucker to do 1 thing. Fuck mothers.

The “Authority To Use Military Force” is usually held to be self-evident.

Take heart, firepups!

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/kloppenburg-retakes-lead-in-wisconsin-for-now.php?ref=fpb#

Kloppenburg is back up

Hey Margaret, great minds and all that…

That was so eloquent. Thanks!

If this election goes to WI courts would Prosser recuse himself? Or is he a Scalia/Thomas sort of judge?

Now this could approach scandal territory. Let’s see where it goes

Election fraud isn’t scandal territory. It’s criminal. Somebody needs to go to prison.

Just up at Think Progress:

Prosser Hires Bush v. Gore Recount Lawyer Who Claims GOP Opposes Equal Protection

Like that’s a real possibility given the last ten years… ACORN!

If this turns out to be true Prosser won–easily. Local WI WTMJ radio news site

http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/119430664.html

Considering the contempt for the law the Republicans have shown the last few weeks, is there even a question they will try to steal this election? (Especial if their whole agenda is riding on it.)

Waukesha is strongly pro-Walker/Prosser Koch brothers.

The fact that THEY would “find” 7,000 votes is no surprise.

You’re point, however is correct. If it stands, it’s a real problem.

So far every counting error has been in Prosser’s favor.

Statistically, that shouldn’t happen. The counting errors should even out.

I HATE linking to the National Review (ASSHATS!!) but if they’ve got it right, and they may have an in with WI Repub election officials, the whole city of Brookfield, in Waukesha County wasn’t added to the original totals.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/264209/breaking-computer-error-gives-prosser-7381-more-votes-almost-certain-victory-christian

Yesterday at “Kloppenburg Prosser Super Tight. . .” I said:

“A near miss is likely to provoke fraud at the last instant or during a recount. One can bet there’s a contingency plan being snatched off the shelf right now.”

But now I’d bet there’s more than one such plan in play. A dusty shoe box will be found in a closet here and there with forgotten ballots. For both sides: each time shine a light on the cockroaches, and watch them all scurry.

This is a politicized judiciary which, aside from partisanship, argues against elected judges and for term limits.

Kloppenburg can come to Florida and hang out with Boyd and Crist…

And a Google turns up this gem:

http://www.jsonline.com/news/waukesha/100595954.html

I agree. I’m occasionally a tad more conservative than most here, but not always. I try to be eclectic. You’re correct about Nat’l Review. None of these WI events are happenstance.

I don’t understand why a diligent progressive would read Nat’l Review other than to satisfy a desire to simply get angry. Rather try WSJ and Weekly Standard instead. They’re not always pure screed.

Heavy secrecy. Surprising results that throw an election the Republican’s way. No doubt failure to preserve evidence. Where have I seen that before? It seems so familiar.

What is the phrase we used so often in the naughts?

Close enough to steal

On her PERSONAL COMPUTER?!

That didn’t convey my sense of utter outrage

OUTRAGE

OMG OMG OMG. Stuff like this turns me into a 13 year old girl. I hope it’s true.

Prison! Prison!

The pick-up of votes for Prosser in Waukesha is what, 6-10% of his vote total? Shades of Ken Blackwell. That’s one hell of a “mistake” and a major error in calculating total votes cast. One would think the county’s entire system would be suspect and need immediate auditing.

We’ve now added auditing issues to the recount. This will surely end in litigation at the state Supremes. With Prosser himself a Supreme but recused, that would leave three Repubs and three Dems to vote on it.

“Shades of Ken Blackwell. That’s one hell of a “mistake” and a major error in calculating total votes cast.”
What I was thinking.
Exit polls once gain not matching outcome. And then, there’s this “pause’ in the voting. we’ve seen it too many times before.
Is WI still using Diebold? or similar?

Officials dispute reliability of Waukesha County clerk’s election data system

Never fear, Obama’s DOJ will jump right in to make sure that everything is on the up-and-up and Prosser clearly won.

This is not snark.

I would slow down. There are no facts in evidence yet. There is no final tally. It is JUST possible (despite this official’s past, and the strange practice of having a single partisan in charge of data that is very hard to audit) that this WAS a stupid mistake.

Getting this particular judge to the bench may well become a bitter and Pyrrhic victory for the Right. Regardless how this turns out, Republicans have just handed the left a crazy boost of adrenalin of national proportions. Add this to all that has gone before, and the base will be galvanized as never before.

A note of caution however,(no concern trolling, honest). Walker’s actions are so outrageous that huge numbers of independents, moderate Republicans and Blue Dogs are with the progressives. Getting hysterical right now will not help.

The movement conservatives are in this for the long haul, so it is time to be strategic and not lose our minds over this. It may be a blessing in disguise. The courts are not the only avenue; recounts can also get the job done.

Whatever the outcome of the Prosser thing, I think that the recall prospects just got a whole bunch brighter.

Conspiracy theories are Glenn Beck’s thing. Let’s not succumb to crazy, until the facts are in.

Welcome to the Banana Republic of America.

I hope the Dems learned their own lessons from Florida 2000, and that’s not to give up without one helluva fight. Another is that these are not battles with rules, though they are supposed to be and are portrayed as such.

Dems must simultaneously stick up for the rules and anticipate that their opponents will violate them in unusual and sometimes stunningly obvious ways. As Nixon and Rove made clear, sometimes the biggest lie is the easiest one to get away with.

This is a national fight for the entire Republican Party’s platform of disaster capitalist policies. Wisconsin is just the first statewide attempt to implement them. If it’s derailed because the loss of Prosser’s vote derails his key legislation, it could affect a dozen similar experiments going on nationally. Walker, like Kasich, Scott and others, thinks he’s presidential material. (He’s certainly on par with Palin and Bachman.) His career goals extend far beyond Madison.

Karl Rove is no longer as visible a GOP magician as he used to be, but his modus operandi still applies: the only dirty trick he won’t use is the one he hasn’t invented yet.

Recounts and litigation are inevitable in this election. The result, still unknown days after the vote, is too close. The possibility of fraud, after Florida and Ohio and in consideration of the national stakes in play, is too great to ignore. The party that still honors Karl Rove has made abundantly clear that playing by the rules is a weakness to be exploited, not behavior to be emulated.

Well, seems like the “Redshift” in voting has come back into full fury!!

I say prosecute her for vote fraud and tampering and the entire country needs to revote. If that bullshit stands, her secrecy and using her personal computor (WTF), then all it will do is pave a golden path for outright theft of all elections. No need to try to be secret.

They don’t need diebold. They have the Kathy Nickolaus whacking it out on Excel on her own Personal Computor.

“What’s the final tally…? Okay, got it. Here’s an extra 7000, just in case. Now, where do I go to get me some Koch $$$ ?!”

I think Kloppenburg will still come out on top

I also think Walker, Prosser, and others may end up in a Federal court.

Wisconsin could expose a lot bad stuff that takes place with USA voting

may lead to all voted requiring paper

no more Diebold

yes and this action by Kathy will super charge the DEM BASE

who thinks the people of Wisconsin are going to sit by and watch Prosser and Walker steal an election?

me thinks a lot of republicans are very, very, worried about how this could end.

I’m not suggesting folding like a cheap suit (Al Gore), simply that we keep the powder dry. It is enough that the whole situation stinks to high heaven. Investigation, litigation and endless spin is inevitable. It’s just that we do not need to manufacture conspiracies at this early stage. The facts on the ground will be enough. There are Democratic officials in this county who are reportedly on-side with this adjustment:

[At the press conference with Nickolaus, Ramona Kitzinger, the Democrat on the Waukesha County board of canvass said: "We went over everything and made sure all the numbers jibed up and they did. Those numbers jibed up and we're satisfied they're correct." As a Democrat, she said, "I'm not going to stand here and tell you something that's not true."] – Journal Sentinel

The official announcement of these miraculous votes had Nickolaus’ voice quavering. Why? Why not triumphant or officious? Just because of an error? More likely the recognition that she had just tainted this election, no matter its outcome. Her masters will not be pleased.

["I'm thankful that this error was caught early in the process. This is not a case of extra ballots being found. This is human error which I apologize for, which is common," Nickolaus said, her voice wavering as she spoke to reporters.]

Whether by fraud or error, this election will never be seen as legitimate. Ultimately; Advantage = Progressives.

Fraud is a possibility. Let’s investigate and audit first, not go all Red Queen and punishment before the trial or verdict.

NO.

This election is being STOLEN.

I have ZERO DOUBT.

I smelled a rat election night, and now that that rat didn’t do the trick, they had another to seal the deal.

Why??

Because they’ve STOLEN TWO ELECTIONS NOW and have learned the lesson well.

The public won’t do a damned thing.

We should’ve been out in the streets in millions in 2000. In the tens of millions in 2004, and now, NOW is the time that this either STOPS, or we officially give up.

Now. Is. The. Time.

Make up your mind America. Fight, or surrender. And I’ll not lie to you, neither option is pretty.

Good luck with that approach. I’m more process oriented, trust and verify, then verify again.

Nickolaus’s unusual set-up invited criticism; it seems inherently open to abuse, which creates the impression of abuse, whether or not it’s occurred. It should be audited and revised to be more transparent and independent of her personal physical office. If an audit shows she came up with the right numbers, I’m fine with that; the audit should also disclose why the numbers were initially so off and propose changes to prevent that in future.

Politically, however, momentum is a delicate thing. It can quickly fall away, especially as day to day worries gnaw at it. That favors Republicans much more than Democrats; they have a better organization and more money and a cradle-to-grave approach to issues and long term staffing.

As for the hesitancy in her press conference speaking voice, I have no idea whether it was jitters or method acting.

I agree that Republicans are capable of that; proof would be helpful in combating it.

Man… I sure hope you are right!!!

Every single time a Democrat is on tv talking about the election, they should pound one point and only one point……. a Republican election official put the votes on her PERSONAL computer; her vote counts are fraudulant.

I just want to come back and add that I’m sick of this. Every damned time there is a discrepency in votes, it turns to the Republican advantage. We’ve known for years that Republicans have been stealing elections, but we STILL can’t get over the urge to “keep our powder dry” and “let the investigatins run their course” and “don’t jump to conclusions”. All the while, we lose and we will keep losing.

So now Republicans are going to convience us that voters had a change of heart over night??!! And who knew it would be in favor of the Republican!

This is not the time to play “fair”.

From reading the article at the link given by reddog and Kassandra, it appears that Nickolaus is not only in the habit of putting sensitive files on her personal computer but she worked for 15 years as a computer programmer prior to becoming county clerk. How interesting.

the USA voting system is already faith base, due to Die Bold

keep in mind this is not DC DEM production, this is a grass roots movement by Dems with no DC help

O-Kay let say Prosser gets the seat, every GOPers knows what goes around will come around

Dems control the Big cities, where it is easy to fix elections

plus this finding 7000 votes at such a late hour sounds like a high school prank, this is a rookie move.

Did Prosser come up and say I win? No

Because they know this issue will not stay in Wisconsin, and this issue can split the state of Wisconsin a part.

remember U have recall votes coming up, this will super charge them

the powers that be, like the idea of keeping their broken voting system somewhat honest, when a lot of people know it is not.

you don’t want half the state of Wisconsin saying the voting system is a disaster,

it is funny how the got some Dems to come out and help Kathy? who is getting paid here, are the Dems getting paid? If you were a Dem would U defend Kathy? Not

this has nuclear disaster written all over it, if Prosser wins.

Every GOPer knows that if the Dems control the cities, some will result to holding CITY votes until the little towns are done, and just come up with enough to win.

I hate the USA voting system, an issue like this could bring the entire thing down.

who knows a voting place in Milwaukee may find an extra 25,000 votes

once u open up this pandora box, there will be no coming back.

like Old Fat Guy said, something is very wrong with the Milwaukee vote

Me thinks, there are people already on the ground in Milwaukee looking for the rats.

Sort of makes you wonder how all those repugs got elected in 2010. Maybe it wasn’t as overwhelming as it seemed. They sure had their strategery ready to go, didn’t they.

Point well taken. I think I’m reacting to the conclusions so readily espoused in this comment thread. FRAUD!

I think we mostly agree here, we need to go to the mattresses on this, but should the evidence point to a simple screw-up it still illustrates a deeply broken democratic process (thanks to a Republican official). According to the reporting so far, it seems like an accountability train-wreck. She forgot to push “input” when these results came in. WTF! How can democracy hang on a single partisan’s mastery of Excel?

This is what I mean. I hope that all votes, and the processes used to tabulate them can be certified to everyone’s satisfaction. But if not, I am getting the sense that the left, and many ordinary citizens are finally starting to wake up to the fact that their democracy now demands their attention.

I would echo what 41 said: Waukesha’s total vote count was 125,000. That’s for both candidates in the race.

And the clerk’s claim is that they just discovered that 14,000 had been forgotten? They forgot roughly 9% of the total vote count in the county?

Sometimes we can’t get proof Earl (may I call you Earl?). For a myriad of reasons, beyond a reasonable doubt proof is difficult if not impossible to collect. That does not mean the event in question didn’t happen.

And when it comes to the state taking away a person’s liberty, I agree whole heartedly that proof beyond a reasonable doubt is necessary, knowing that means the guilty goes unpunished. IMO OJ Simpson was guilty of murder, but IMO the prosecutors didn’t prove it in their case. Ergo, even though I think that “man” (not even sure he deserves being called that) committed one of the most despicable acts man do, I firmly believe he should’ve walked out of that court a free man.

But when it comes to other things in life, sometimes it’s ok to act on less proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Because sometimes some wrong needs to be undone even if those that committed it were clever enough to keep others from getting that proof. IMO this is one of those times.

I’m not calling on that county clerk (or whatever her title is) to go to prison on less than proof, I am asking Americans to use their Constitutional rights to get out in the streets and stop this madness now.

I’ve posted several times here some statistically questionable results from Tuesday night, and I won’t repeat them again, other than to say IMO the results from Milwaukee County do not match up with the trends IN EVERY OTHER COUNTY LOOKED AT. I looked at every county that had at least 40,000 votes cast, so as not to have too little numbers for it to be significant.

ALSO, WPR (Wisonsin Public Radio), which I listened to in another tab the whole time they were broadcasting their election special, sent out teams of volunteers to several pre-picked representative wards so as to get numbers from them to see if any trends were there. In EVERY ward they reported numbers from in Milwuakee County, Kloppenburg OUTPERFORMED the D candidate from 2010. OUTPERFORMED. Yet when the votes were counted, they reflected that she badly UNDERPERFORMED. In every other county looked at, the trends were the same and what you would expect given the events of the past few months. Every county but Milwaukee County.

And I’ve heard through the grapevine that there are a number of the old lever machines in Milwaukee County (No I don’t know if that’s true or a rumor, sorry). As you know, there is no paper trail with those, and if they have been tampered with, there is no way to prove it short of catching the person red-handed.

ALSO, she underperformed badly in a county that elected a new D County Executive (replacing Walker) by more than 20 points.

We have come to a point in our country, I firmly believe now, where the media is used to create realities, even if those realities are false. IMO, given the events of the last few months in Wisconsin, this election wasn’t going to be all that close. But given the propaganda fed by our media, many folks can be led to believe that it could be close.

I believe the Republican Party knew it wouldn’t be close, and knew it was such an important election that taking the slim chance of being caught red-handed was worth it, that they tinkered with something in Milwaukee County, possible elsewhere, but most definitely Milwaukee County. I believe that the only error they made was not realizing how badly they had pissed the people off, and didn’t adjust them enough. Thus, they were forced to go to Plan B.

I can’t prove any of it beyond a reasonable doubt, yet I believe it with every fiber of my soul. And because I can’t prove it, I won’t support for any acts directly against this woman or the Republican Party.

But the time has come now, for ordinary Americans, to decide if they’re going to accept such questions in a democracy, or if they’re going to demand this shit end. There is no EXCUSE for us not having a SINGLE voting system, nationwide, with the STATE having the only access to the code, not private individuals, and following up on those with real auditing ALL the time to restore faith in the outcomes.

And it is past time for ordinary Americans to settle for losing their rights, their way of living, and their dignity merely because there is no formal “proof.”

The time has come. Every ordinary American should be in the streets, with a general, nationwide strike included (the bullshit going on in Washington DC right now is relevant too). OR every American needs to accept that they’ve given up on those rights, their way of living, and their dignity.

Sorry for the length.

something is very, very, wrong in Milwaukee

Koch brothers and their cronies may just bring down the entire broken USA voting system with this rookie move.

the question more Americans needs to ask

is why don’t Americans vote on Saturday?

we are not an agriculture society anymore

Old Fat Guy somewhere a lot of Lawyers are laughing their heads off, this case goes to caught, heads will roll

Milwaukee is where the rats are!

Back in 1940′s and 50′s, in the era of paper ballots, the GOP in Illinois maintained a location to mark ballots for the GOP that were put in official Ballot Boxes to be taken to the Ballot counting central area – the number sent on the truck determined by how far the GOP were behind. In 1960 in Lake county in the JFK victory, the central counting area was told to wait for a truck that was coming before they started to release any vote totals to anyone – it was only after the Chicago vote margin was so large that the Lake County (Waukegan area) pretend votes could not change anything that the central counting area was told to forget about waiting – the truck was not coming. Other areas of Lake county did toss black and union votes into the DesPlaines River – where the 1961 spring flood brought them to the surface to be reported as found (but unreadable) in the police log – the GOP replacing those tossed votes with the manufactured votes was never investigated.

My mother was an “Ike” republican and was an election judge in Lake County in 1960 – she refused to be an election judge for the GOP in all the elections that came after 1960.

So this vote change of 7500 votes was not unexpected – and I thought it cute the way it was done – the initial recorded vote for the town in the summary was “zero” – an obvious error – so who can question that cities currently reported vote that gave him the 7500 vote margin. I do not know if the GOP still have folks stuffing the ballot boxes or switching out the actual ballots for ballots from a trusted source, but this does smell. Meanwhile we still do not have actual audits of the process (the recount will not be an audit) – and that requires a nod of the head to Bev Harris who worked the egos (and good intentions of young folks about the value of paper ballots) on the left to stop the federal election audit bill from going forward.

Also, what is preventing any of the “polling” outfits (which are extensions of our media) from polling the state of Wisconsin the day after an election to see how they voted and whether those results matched up with results seen? Of course since they’re an extension of the media those results might not be trusted now either, but IMO the fact that they DON’T EVEN BOTHER to do it proves something. The PTB don’t want any evidence out there that would help prove our democracy has been corrupted to the point of the voting as well.

Why can’t we do our own polling?? If FDL (and places like them) can get folks together to phonebank for politicians, why can’t we do our own polling? I, for one, would feel a LOT better about this if I saw a poll that I could trust of the state the day after where folks were asked if they voted and if so, for whom; and if that trustworthy poll said yes, Wisconsinites were equally divided on this race.

Yes it will go somewhere, another Dim cave-in, and a new Gooper star: future CongressWhore Kathy Nickolaus.

EoH is shorter and easier; I sit rather than stand on ceremony.

Proof will be essential in any litigation. Inference can also be used, but it still requires a consistent pattern to base it on.

Democratic powerbrokers, however, shouldn’t and I hope won’t limit their strategy to the narrow range of evidence that would be admissible in court. Every good negotiator makes intelligent, informed guesses about what the other side wants and will do to get it. As MickSteers suggests, the Dems should go to the mattresses on this one; the Repubs surely will.

I agree. But having managed a whack of public opinion research, this would be a rather tricky thing. In this case you would have to poll people who have actually voted in this election. That would be an expensive and difficult poll to do, owing to the size of the sample needed, and the enormous number of people you’d have to disqualify as non-voters.

Still, a worthwhile venture if you could get it funded.

The fact that Ms. Nickolaus is an experienced programmer should be taken into account in the thorough audit of her returns that I hope Dems demand. That Wisconsin, and presumably many other states, allows such obviously partisan representatives to be official “non-partisan” vote counters is problematic enough.

Hypothetically, a crook wouldn’t need expert skills, just know enough to use disposable, disappearing s/w provided by an under the table think tank source.

Let’s remember, Karl Rove didn’t die. He didn’t disappear or go to jail or go away. He’s still in business and making a lot of money. A generation that’s come after him has used his scruples as the ceiling, not the floor, for their dirty tricks. It would behoove the Dems to verify that no material ones were attempted in this election. Too much for the entire country is at stake.

Hand marked hand counted paper ballots would have been counted and added up 24 hours ago and with electronic machines the results are coming in 48 hours later. On top of that we pay for these play black boxes and the “maintenance contracts” that go with them.

There is no excuse her votes weren’t called in.

Here’s what makes me really suspicious ~ that whole she’s a good person, shaky voice, nervous (honest) see … and well, sure, she’s a little eccentric and uses her personal computer and well, hell, yeah, she shouldn’t … BUT HELL, she didn’t mean nothin’ by it. She didn’t mean any harm. So we’ll just accept her story at face value and PROSSER WON! Oh, and she **used** (wink, wink) to be a computer programmer, for 15 years. That’s not a supporting point of evidence! NO! That’s a big red flaming flag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Time to go watch Comedy Central, but one final point.

In Canada there is something called Elections Canada. It is a truly non-partisan agency (there are multiple parties,official languages and regions) that manages national elections. The court case in Bush/Gore could never have arisen there, as there is a single standard for ballots, tabulation and reporting of results. Provincial and municipal officials, with their numerous differing processes and standards are simply not a factor in federal elections.

While I understand that American federalism evolved differently, this simple expedient has resulted in a pervasive trust in the process. This is no mean feat, given that there is still a vibrant separatist faction (read 10th amendment and secession )operating in the second largest province (Quebec, representing 25% of the country’s population).

This agency is consulted the world over to help burgeoning democracies establish robust democratic processes, and to oversee fair elections.

In addition, there is no conflict between electronic voting and accountability. It is no problem to operate electronic systems that also produce a printed record of all transactions. Ever used a bank machine? There are voting systems that can do the same. So why are we using paperless, hackable and suspect systems that cost so much?

Granted, Canada is a small place (about the population of California) but the geography is similar, and there are the same distances, time differences, rural and urban voting problems and reporting issues.

Along with reform of the pollution of money in politics, a reform of voting in national elections would go a long way to restoring democracy. All it requires is a belief in the nation. Shouldn’t be a problem for the Greatest Nation on Earth.

PS: It’s cheaper too.

And, apparently, the amount of votes Prosser gained just happens to be the exact number he needed to avoid recount. How convienent.

And how convienent it is that exit polling is reliable every where in the world EXCEPT in the US.

We no longer have a democracy. It was stolen while we played diddly winks with our thumbs and fussed over the fact that we don’t have “hard proof”. And if we do start to become worried, well the media will quickly tell us how we’re just overreacting and how this was all just a big, o’l pot of “nothing to see here”.

Probably a good idea to update the update “Kloppenburg Gains Back”.

“shaky voice, nervous (honest) see …”

Or someone who’s telling a lie and afraid it’s obvious. And they know they’re going to get in big trouble, like maybe prison trouble, if found out.