In a dramatic turnaround in a state Supreme Court election full of dramatic turnarounds in Wisconsin, Waukesha County’s clerk has announced that due to human error, vote totals for the city of Brookfield had not been included in the final totals for her county. The resultant addition added a net of 7,583 votes to David Prosser’s total, putting him in a commanding lead over JoAnne Kloppenburg.
Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus, a former Assembly Republican staffer, explained the mistake in a press conference:
Nickolaus said she failed to properly save a spreadsheet after inputting the Brookfield numbers Election Night, leading to the error. Once she ran the report to show the aggregate numbers for the county, she assumed incorrectly the Brookfield numbers were included.
She said the mistake was discovered yesterday during the canvass.
She stressed it was not a case of votes being found.
“I’m thankful that this error was caught early in the process and during the canvass,” Nickolaus said. “The purpose of the canvass is to catch these kinds of errors.”
There are a host of questions associated with this discovery. First, Nickolaus’ practices for handling elections have been called into question before. She apparently put the election results collection and tallying system on her personal computer, with a password that only she knows. She has resisted multiple efforts to review the system and the backup, or to bring more people into the process rather than just her. In 2010 she was subject to an audit that criticized her methods. The entire election system for the county is on this standalone equipment. And that just so happens to be the county that “finds” the extra votes.
Despite these questions about process, it’s worth noting that the Democratic member of the canvassing board agreed with the results:
Ramona Kitzinger, the Democratic member of the county board of canvass, defended the process. She agreed with Nickolaus that the board “went over everything and made sure that all the numbers jived up, and they did.”
“I’m the Democratic vice chair of Waukesha County, so I’m not going to stand here and tell you something that’s not true,” Kitzinger said.
In addition, the numbers in Brookfield, the missing city in the initial count, were broadcast on April 6, the day after the election. So these votes do exist, it seems, though the process is quite fishy. And the total turnout for Waukesha County has been called into question after viewing these numbers, by One Wisconsin Now:
On Tuesday, shockingly-large turnout suddenly emerged from Waukesha County, which did not comport with either the results of previous spring elections, or even internal estimates from city officials mid-day. In fact, a Waukesha City Deputy Clerk said at 1:18pm that turnout was very typical, predicting somewhere between 20 to 25 percent. As Tuesday night wore on, reporting in Waukesha County stopped altogether for hours, leaving observers to wonder what was going on. Then suddenly, results suggesting massive turnout started to pour in rapidly with Prosser adding dramatically to his total by a 73-27 percent margin.
One Wisconsin Now estimates put overall turnout near 38 percent, a wild outlier to historical data and the earlier mid-day estimation of Waukesha’s own officials. In April 2009, turnout was 20 percent; April 2008, turnout was 22 percent and in April 2007, turnout was 24 percent. All of these elections had hotly-contested Supreme Court races as well.
Others have claimed that the turnout does not yield any red flags.
The news was broken earlier today at National Review Online, by a operative at the conservative Wisconsin Public Research Institute.
Uppity Wis sums it up:
This may turn out to be true. But you can certainly understand why supporters of JoAnne Kloppenburg, who was leading by 204 votes in unofficial returns on Wednesday, will be disbeleving. They will no doubt claim fraud. It may be a little hard to swallow that a Republican clerk in the biggest vote-producing county in the vote for conservative candidates, including Prosser, discovered another 14,000 votes in her personal computer, if that’s where they were. Only Christian Schneider knows, presumably.
Kloppenburg could still call for a recount if all the other numbers hold. The margin of victory will be close to the 0.5% margin where the state would pay for a recount. It’s too early to tell what strategy will be employed. Needless to say, there’s a lot of wind out of the sails at the Kloppenburg camp at the moment.
It’s a good thing that Prosser hasn’t hired the lawyer on the Bush side of the Florida recount prior to this, or things would get really crazy.





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More to be revealed I’m sure.
Unfortunately, it seems nothing more will be revealed about that pc.
It’s a good thing that Prosser hasn’t hired the lawyer on the Bush side of the Florida recount prior to this, or things would get really crazy.
ROFL…yeah, good thing. Nothing stirs up the conspiracy hornets like a shot of Raid 2000.
Fishy, fishy, oh so fishy in so many ways.
Like I said, 14,000 votes is 11% of the total vote count in the State Supreme Court race in Waukesha County. Do you really think they overlooked 11% of the vote?
I bet if KLO’s team came out strong tomorrow, Waukesha would quickly backtrack.
We are all Kazakhstan now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
or just fill in your favorite Third World sh*thole in the above.
what an effing miracle for the incumbent reichwingnutjob, eh ???
like ballots from heaven or something …..
Speaking of Kathy Nickolaus:
1) She used to work for David Prosser, back when he ran the State Assembly.
2) She’s been dinged repeatedly in the past for her secrecy, corners-cutting, lack of transparency and general hinkiness.
3) And there is of course the odd poll-results-reporting pattern noted in Waukesha County — a pattern noted hours before Nickolaus’ magic laptop Access ballots were publicly announced.
Something is hinky in Waukesha.
Like I said the other night on election night…they would cough up “just enough votes” for Prosser after the fact.
agreed
we jumped the shark at Bush Gore
Kloppenburg to file open records request in Waukesha LINK.
“or something”. They will be having an “investigation” supposedly. The people are going to have to STRIKE. This is far from over.
the ace was played
you didnt really think the Kock brothers through in all that cash to LOSE didja?
How come every time there are “found votes” or questionable practices, they always favor Republicans? They’re going to steal it and the Democratic Party is going to yawn.
Do people still think that elections are the answer?
Update from the “Never mind” link:
And links to this from Daily Kos:
http://tinyurl.com/3wgcyu4
Following along on Twitter:
Spreadsheet to tally votes?
This is total horseshit. Coming from Waukesha County this is total and complete fraud. Only took them a day to begin thieving the election. They are lying. We need to make sure this bullshit does not stand.
My comments were regarding the “ace” they were going to play all night that night.
Stupid or evil … stupid or evil … always the question, and frequently never answered.
Waukesha County uses paper ballots. So, if there is something amiss here, it should be discoverable.
Stupid
orand evil … stupidorand evilBoth
“made sure that all the numbers jived up”
yeah, so it would seem.
if this is accepted we are done for….turn out the lites Merika
After what the people of WI have been through do you think they will do nothing??? They were out in the dead of winter before. Spring is here!
Maybe those are the results from that city. Maybe those votes were cast. My question is : how many times were they counted?
They will just demonize the “poor losers” or “conspiracy theorists”..just like they always do. Wisconsin better be revved up for some action.
ive lost my faith,as you can see
the media putzs will have a field day
To all of you commenting “this is the end”
Just shut up.
Whining and fighting are not compatible.
I totally understand. But we do need to keep fighting.
Time for FBI? Forensic investigation of that woman’s computers stat.
Sign that guy up for a deposition. STAT!
gee my access database made a mistake. Looks like a duck squawks like a duck smells like one too… Must be a fucking duck… what a crock of shit that “Election official” is the whole fucking voting tabulation system is on her freaking PC!! Reeks of fraud!!
the Kock brothers could give every gooper in WI 1000 bucks and not feel it in the least
Thanks, PW. It will be a surprise ONLY IF she turns out to be on the up and up, huh.
This whole mess needs to be investigated, recounted, and tracked from END to END before anything is ‘decided.’
ROFL, a right winger snarking others over conspiracy theories!!!!
OMG LMFAO!!!
Yeah, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh never, ever, EVER come up with any loony tunes conspiracy theory that the right wing dittoheads don’t swallow, hook line and sinker everytime.
Man that’s funny.
LOL, the only thing that makes it funnier that he chose AN ACTUAL CONSPIRACY to poke fun at!! LOL!! It was proven Gore won that race!!! LOL
Totally brilliant first move!!!
I love Kloppenburg. She’s almost as smart as Jane!
If by her own admission she is incompetent, and has proven it in the past is there not some kind of recourse. Any employee would be fired, I mean I understand that she is not an employee, but there has to be some way to prevent her from doing whatever she feels like doing, without any consequences.
nobody could have anticipated…………….
No kidding. Making up her own rules and she’s been called on it before. But she’s -oops- STILL doing it … WHEN a WHOLE fucking election is on the line. It just cannot stand.
Much as I think this doesn’t pass the stink test, I find this comment from a regular commenter over at First Draft persuasive.
“I have been a poll worker here in Madison for all elections over the last two years (and worked at the polls in California for six years before that). I worked at the polls Tuesday, and personally ‘closed out’ our vote scanner/counter. Waukesha uses (to the best of my knowledge) the same ballot and voting mechanism that Madison uses.
There is NO WAY that somebody – even a county clerk – could decide to ‘manufacture’ 7500 ballots two days after an election. Besides the ballots themselves, you would need voter registry lists that showed 7500 additional people showing up in random order, the ‘prom packs’ from the scanner/counter machines showing those additional 7500 ballots having been scanned in two days earlier, and the printed out totals from those machines signed by multiple poll workers two days earlier (and probably five other things I’m not thinking of.)
If this is an attempt to defraud the state and the election, it will be uncovered in very short order.
This was a very large, very public clerical error. And nothing more.”
gotnogame commented on the blog post Kloppenburg, Prosser Super-Tight With a Handful of Precincts Remaining
2011-04-06 09:05:58
Which 2 precincts in Miwaukee county would be telling…….
Brookfield? Mequan??
gotnogame commented on the blog post Kloppenburg, Prosser Super-Tight With a Handful of Precincts Remaining
2011-04-06 09:04:37
If statistics bear out then Joanne wins by 264 votes. She loses 91 in Jeferson but gains 131 in Milwaukee for a net gain of 40 to current total.
UNLESS something fishy in last 2 in Milwaukee where she normally holds a 57/43 advantage
POsted these two posts when there were still 5 precincts to report. Anyone who knows anything about Wisconsin knows that Brookfield and Mequan are the 2 MOST REPUBLICAN cities in Wisconsin so if any shenanigans were going to go on it would be with one or both of those cities. Turns out I was right. They are stealing another one from us…..
I assume your French is perfect.
huh?
I’m sorry, were you under the impression that I would agree with wild conspiracy theories just because they originate with people on the right?
It also seems I was correct in my original post.
How about this: Stupid: Dems Evil: Repubs.
Of course, that’s really being overly generous to the Dems who are only slightly better than Republicans at this point in history.
How does the purported Waukesha turnout compare with the apparently higher than normal turnout across the state?
I understand that WI requires a paper ballot record of all votes cast. I assume those would be counted and compared with spread sheet summaries and computer records, to verify votes actually cast.
Ms. Nickolaus apparently has 15 years’ experience as a computer programmer. I assume the skills inherent in that experience would be considered in doing forensic analysis of her county’s voting records.
I’ve always thought the counting of votes had to be done in daylight/open with viewers present and watching. Would it not be illegal for this woman to put the numbers in her personal computer?
Okay, this calls for an immediate re-vote on paper ballots with the state seal, and numbered on each one so they can’t be fudged.
As for the clerk, she claims it was a failure to properly record the results that were sent to her from Waukesha and that the paper trail would corroborate the numbers, not actual creation of votes.
that is exactly what should be done
Have you read her demands of secrecy??
How would we know she didn’t swap out pieces of paper with Kloppenburg chosen on them with pieces of paper with Prosser chosen on them?? If she did that, the total vote number would be the same. And she’s had nearly 48 hours to do it, in secrecy.
So, how again would we know it?
great point!
the time issue is going to be problem here
just because of what u said
paid troll
uhm what happened?
To Hell with a recount!
No need to waste time and money on that. Clearly votes appear and disappear at will.
Why does this thread and it’s trollage trigger a terminix ad … with ants crawling all over a bagel no less?
LOL!
more bizzaro world
Yeah, what happened is right.
It’s MAGIC!
I’ve got an idea – let’s nix any investigations and ask the U.S. Supreme Court who the winner is! It’s an American tradition!
lol
It’s time to revote on paper with an offical seal and numbered. Counted by teams of 5 with 20 watchers at each polling site!
great idea…..
the system is totally corrupt…way too much$$$$$ a simple damn election
The Supremes have too many issues at the moment. They would all have to recuse themselves!
i agree with what you typed obviously
What rule did it violate though to disappear like that?
Well, recuse me!
I am a certified Microsoft Access Expert. I want to see her tables and queries.
One error in the SQL could double the vote tallies, 2 could quadruple, etc.
Rule?
Evidently there are no rules!
This is the price Democrats pay for not taking voting fraud seriously in 2000 and 2004. Gore walked away after the fraud in Florida. Then, after everything we did to get him elected, Kerry walked away with his tail between lis legs–ignoring what happened in Ohio. No wonder every two bit GOP thug thinks they can cheat–because they can. Then there is the voter suppression being put in place right now, as we watch. What does Mr. Hope have to say about that? Nothing. The voting systems in this country are a joke. Democrats should be ashamed for having turned a blind eye to this corruption of our democracy.
i have no idea….but it was right on
I’ve been saying it for years–voting is meaningless in this country. Civil disobedience is all we have left.
Ohhhh. MARY! Not you.
I was speaking of the other Supremes. *G*
Waukesha County needs to spend more on their schools. Not only do they not know how to add, they also don’t know how to spell. The word is “jibed” not “jived up.”
Ding.
yup,not one dem stood up for him ,not one
WI says this is just a preview of 2012…you ain’t seen nothin’ yet…
Then she should have a very large and public firing.
judge lest you be judged! (couldn’t help myself)
WHAT. YOU. SAID.
oops not allowed to feel ashamed…shame police show up………..G
Kathy Nickolaus: “I offered a pinky swear. What more do you want?!?”
Amen.
Exactly. This #%^@ should be fired. Then, these elections results should be declared void and we should all have to go back to the polls again next Tuesday and vote again. Paper ballots, statewide. NO mechanical voting machines and no DRE machines. Bet you, Prosser would lose by 50,000+.
Mother-effers are going to steal another one. Seems like the left is going to have to start reacting “early 20th century” to keep the oligarchs from f**king us the same way they tried to 100 years ago
Hot Damn! Gotta git da log outta my eye! ;-)
Lincoln Logs seem to be flying all over the place these days. Especially the ones falling out from under Bernanke.
Maybe in a strange way this will all work out for the better…maybe this will really mobilize people to take some serious action and shut the Walkerites down Nationwide. Unions will not stand for this. The other night someone mentioned that they have contingency plans. Norske maybe..can’t wait to hear his take on this.
Fox News: “Pinky Swear most trusted truth telling device in American history.”
Who needs SQL when you’ve got a stand-alone PC that is magical?
you got it
Yeah, and she shoulda used Exel instead.
Rush Limbaugh: Only communists refuse to accept a statement backed by a pinky swear.”
Just for argument’s sake, let’s say the uncounted votes are genuine.
I worked with a US Treasury Agent who pulled shit like that — hide the stuff and then reveal it when the right time comes. I’ve seen the technique used in various ways. It’s old, and dirty. It always carries ‘honest mistake’ plausible deniability. No ‘wrongdoing’ if the criminal conspirators don’t admit to their wrongdoing.
So why do it in this WI election?
Well, when the facts are known, and there’s no fraud or malfeasance to prove, who’s gonna have egg on their faces? Why, the folks who claimed ‘foul!’ More important, it will discredit all future (and past) legitimate claims of election manipulation.
This sort of dirty trickery is the worst sort.
He is probably spitting nails and too pissed to type.
LOL!
First Man is in the wrong web site.
Here’s the video of the press conference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldCVBB-ruKY
ROTFloor!
Loop that, baby!
Very nice chunk of code. Bravo!
so true it hurts
Prosser was Ms. Nickolaus’ boss
http://twitter.com/#!/MSpicuzzaWSJ
MSpicuzzaWSJ Mary Spicuzza
Kathy Nickolaus worked for Assembly Republican Caucus when Prosser was Speaker. Caucus is controlled by speaker, so he is her former boss.
(end snip)
reporter for Wisconsin State Journal.
2X
many thanks!!
Great catch Sadly!
Heh.
It’s not funny, but it’s how it goes.
Working cure code. BRB.
And if this is true, then maybe it’s intent is to keep everyone focused there instead of in Milwaukee County, where IMO the results really smell bad.
Does a “recount” check these audit items in WI?
Will there be a recount with this big a victory margin?
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‘Jibed up’ appears in some news stories, so it’s impossible to tell if editors have intervened.
This is hitting too close to home for me, having been raised in New Berlin and Brookfield. I was in Atlanta, Georgia last week and I’m starting hear “revenge of the South” in these actions as the Southern Strategy now finds its roots in my back yard. Where do these people come from?
I agree that Milwaukee results do not seem reasonable.
All we’re missing now is Kathy Nickolaus’s IT guy buying the farm in a plane crash.
Perhaps. I can almost guarantee riots and state-wide public strikes if Prosser steals this one and then goes on to rubber-stamp every slimy bill the Fitz-Walker trash sneaks through illegally.
This is the contingency plan. Bring it on, you wing-nut shit-stains. I will be in the street “protecting” working and middle class rights, no matter the cost.
rotf
Off topic, but the question has been rolling around inside my skull today:
What, exactly, do the Prez, Veep, Sen ML, and Speaker say during their 11th hour meetings at the WH? In very literal terms, what do they talk about? Seriously. And why doesn’t the slavish beltway press pose that question? (OK, that last part was rhetorical, but still…)
“I’ll raise you $5 Billion in children’s school lunch cuts in exchange for gutting funding for Planned Parenthood…”
“You’re bluffing…”
And so on. Seriously. What the fuck can these jagoffs possibly be talking about? It ain’t like they’re immersed in the detail.
Or maybe it’s something like, “I’ll let you keep the (fill in industry) cash flowing into your offshore account in exchange for some other window-dressing bullshit…”
Anyway, what does the “county clerk” have to do with ballot totals? I thought City Clerks did the counts and recounts. I smell a rat!
Having an control audit issue, Waukesha County?
*shudder*
Agreed. She is “missing” about 15,000 votes in Milwaukee County if that county reflected the trends of gains over 2010 results of the rest of the state. Very fishy. She over-performs in almost every single county over 2010 trends except dark blue Milwaukee County where she somehow under-performs by 5-10 points? No. Just no.
Kathleen Harris.
Kathy Nicolaus.
Coincidence? I think not.
We will never again have a trusted, authentic election….that day is gone.
They agreed on something. They are all liars. I would not be surprised at all if Barry goes along with this latest “compromise”.
I hope that Kloppenburg, unlike such uber-pussies as Gore and Kerry, raises HOLY FUCKING HELL over EVERY SINGLE DODGY place/thing.
You could be right. Nothing like a little diversion to throw people off the trail.
as in “The Arrival”?
My fly on the wall just reported that Barry has agreed to compulsory monthly menstrual reporting for all females of menstruating age in exchange for giving the pukes tens of thousands more billions in cuts of everything except bank bailouts and “defense.”
Kitzinger says “jived up” and says it twice (watched/listened to the presser).
CREATE INSTANCE: Democracy
Var “Votes”
Var “Count”
Var “StealVotes”
Var “WalkerSucks”
Var “ProsserBitch”
CASE ProsserBitch = -Votes
COUNT Votes + WalkerSucks
ELSE Votes+Count
CASE
CASE StealVotes = ProsserBitch +Votes
WHERE “NobodyBelieves”
Var Nickolaus *ignore*
RUN
Commenter over on ALPO just posted this:
Maybe there’s a discrepancy between Brookfield city and county, but still…
It’s also been noted that this new vote margin is just enough to make a recount NOT automatic, meaning that Kloppenburg would have to pay for it.
Just a thought … any money spent on a recount (because the margin is greater than 0.5%) is not available for the recall elections.
I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.
WTF? Is that true. The state only has x amount of money for elections and it will all be spent on the recount, if there is one????
The reported events were like this. The precincts send spreadsheets with totals to the county. Most likely the spreadsheets are Excel. The data in these then is loaded into the MS Access database by the clerk. The town of Brookfield added two columns to the spreadsheet, which prevented the data from loading into the MS Access database.
I’ve used Excel and MS Access a little, but as I remember you can select the columns you want to load into the database and match them with table.column in the database.
Unless…there was an automated loading program, macro, or utility that gave the clerk the ability to just suck the data into the database. But then, why would such a routine not check for obvious problems and put up a message or lead the user through a workaround for ignoring the added columns?
It makes one wonder (aside from the potential for election fraud in this system) how many counties in the country are using a system that is this primitive in order to aggregate the total votes for reporting to the media and to state election officials.
No. If it is over a half-percent then the state doesn’t pay for it. People will have to raise money to pay for the recount, rather than donating that money to recall candidates.
Nothing like raising contributions for a recount to divert funds from recall.
Whatever happens, it seems to me this will energize people more than ever for the recall of the eight legislators. Just the taint of unfairness should be fuel for the petition drives and the recall.
Too true.Ask yourself what kind of democracy we have when we can’t even present election results & adequately audit ‘em.
County clerk is an elected position. When is she up for re-election? Sounds like a good opportunity for the voters to express themselves.
what kind of democracy lets people die with no n healthcare,takes pell grant money from needy students,runs wars for corporate oilygarchs?
Democracy is dead in this country. Official votes being kept on a personal PC? A Democrat certified the results? Wake up people, this is all BS.
The Democrats are as guilty as the Republicans. Do you really think they couldn’t have stopped the erosion of personal liberty if they really wanted?
Elections are meaningless! The real power is concentrated in a handful of people. Does that sound like elections make any difference?
In this case that would be a tractor crash, but yeah.
Can’t the Democrats afford to buy a laptop of their own?
This is political manipulation on a level I previously only thought possible in Africa. If I were Ms. Kloppenburg, I would immediately move for an unbiased recount, and to recuse Ms. Nickolaus. Fishy does not begin to explain how bad this looks to me; has Wisconsin become a banana republic?
Votes appear, votes change, votes disappear. I used to think they were tangible, not quantum mechanical.
that’s the info i was expecting to find.
you’re a real digby, phoenix –
memory, file cabinets, research skills, or tips,
or whatever combination thereof.
This place doesn’t run on air.
Friend = $45
Benefactor = $120
Gosprey = $1,000
x2
I think this truly shows that the Republicans will stop at nothing to get their way. To say that Wisconsin is ground zero takes on more relevance everyday. This will be a fight that goes on for months. There may be no declared Republican candidate but Wisconsin is showing that the real fight is on the local level.
It’s ironic that the Wisc. Univ. Mascot is a Badger.
Fight On!!!
Tarheel, I’m not feeling the dislike of primitive here. As far as I know, the system is more advanced than it needs to be. Lets go back to paper ballots, hand-counted, paper-clipped in bundles and added on a sheet of paper with a pen (I’ll give you the pen, as modern technology).
Then the results from each precinct get driven over, in a car with a dem and a repub and a cop sitting together to the county courthouse. As each car arrives and unloads their bag of paper-clipped voted, the totals are added to the old totals on a blackboard on the front steps.
Modern technology just allows errors to occur at lightspeed.
I’d rather see beans in a jar.
If I were a progressive in Wisconsin, I would let this one go. Joanne Kloppenburg did a fantastic job, but she’s not going to reverse 7000 votes in a recount. Focus instead on the recalls. Focus on any voter ID laws coming out to make sure all your eligible voters are registered and ready to go. Focus on getting that 33% turnout up to 60% starting with the recall elections and up through 2012. Focus on not letting it be so close in the future that a county clerk’s f-up can flip the results. At this point, it’s better to move forward than live in the past. She exceeded expectations. Next time, the voter turnout needs to do that as well.
So, if there’s election fraud, she and her supporters should just let it go?
Ah…
I don’t think so.
Milwaukee County has me suspicious. 2010′s losing Democratic candidate for governor, Tom Barrett, won it by 23.8%. Apparently JoAnn Kloppenburg won it by just 14%. Am I the only one finding that questionable?
How do you intend to prove election fraud?
I heard that night that people were disappointed in the Milwaukie results. Sounds like they underperformed.
That woman’s computer needs to be impounded and the all data recovered from the hard drive. Immediately.
That is how you prove election fraud.
I suspect the fraud is elsewhere than Brookfield.
The con works this way:
Fix the votes in another place (or places) and withhold the Brookfield votes out of the tally (don’t want to overdo the fraud, it’s too obvious; all you need is that GOP magical 51%). If you “win”, you are done. If the amount of fixing doesn’t quite do it (I’ve always thought 15% is the max without being obvious), you pull out the “missed” votes to sure up the win.
Now everyone is up in arms about the potential fraud in Brookfield, but there isn’t any! By the time the Brookfield thing is found to be real, anyone continuing to question the outcome must be a nutcase.
I’ve seen this done in many scenarios. Stage Magicians and con artists use it all the time. It’s a form of misdirection.
My dad told me the old story about the guard at a sawmill. He saw a guy night after night walking out with a wheelbarrow full of sawdust. Who cares about someone stealing sawdust?
Turns out he was stealing wheelbarrows.
But as the article says, her “practices for handling elections have been called into question before” but it doesn’t seem to have resulted in vote counts being changed or election results being overturned. Furthermore, Prosser’s side could fund enough lawyer’s to fill a football field. It’s hard when you’re out-resourced. Walker certainly isn’t going to pay for an election investigation.
Unfortunately, I agree. The recalls seem to me to be the more productive track.
What the ****.
If a dem counter “found” that many lost votes after a republican won fox would be calling for the dems head on a plate.
Yes, but “jive” may be more accurate.
I think the issue is that the Koch brothers will use their 4-3 edge on the state SC to block/delay the recalls.
Big money buys a lot.
Voter Fraud? Someone call Obama’s Justice Department, STAT!
Oh, shit.
The Ugly Politics of Fitzwalkerstan: Wisconsin GOP Official “Finds” Votes to Reverse Defeat of Conservative Justice; John Nichols; The Nation; 4/8/11
I don’t know if this has been mentioned, yet [bold] from The Nation @168:
Here’s Nickolaus’ page, with phone number @ the County.
Any action in Milwaukee?
How many elections have we said “we can’t prove it, so we have to move forward to the next fight’? How many more do we plan on losing?
I don’t think liberals realize that we’re on the ropes. We’ve played nice for so long that the other side has completely cut our legs out from under us.
If you saw her announcement, it is obvious she is lying.
Gota love those Repug’s, for they sure know how to win elections, by hook or crook, it doesn’t matter, a win is a win.
It just figures, without a landslide, fat chance for any change in WI, let alone the US.
Just Sad.
well there is two of us. everyone else is busy looking for a job, i guess
New Post up.
It’s called “Redshift”, where the predicted results do not jive with the final results and it favors the Republicans’s. It’s a decent indicator that the election results have been tampered with in order to steal it. It’s become very pronounced over the last decade, and this is a real redshift moment in Wakesha. Welcome to our accelerating descent into Bananarepublicdom.
This makes perfect sense. Another critical election for the people stolen.
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I completely agree with you. As a matter of fact, Fox was already claiming fraud when she was in the lead by 200 votes. All I’m questioning is whether it’s wise to spend too much time and money on this. The clerk probably assumed records might be requested. So even if you believe something fishy went on, she had all day Wednesday and Thursday to prepare her computer for that eventuality.
If something comes out of Kloppenburg’s actions, great. But if it doesn’t and the vote stands, what then? I’m happy to give more money to PCC and others to help fight for progressive causes, but if no fraud is proven after they go through her computer, I would rather that money be put toward the next battle.
the sad thing is this State is split you have the Demacrates in the cities and the republicans in the rural areas. and smaller towns, and no matter what happens half the state is going to be pissed off. I would love to have a state job but if it comes to having to pay someone else dues to have that job, to me its not worth it. id rather keep the money myself. If I mess up at work then I deserve to be fired. I live and work by my actions and give 100%. I pay my own Beni’s and put in to my own retirment. and the sad thing is most of us will never be able to afford to retire. so maybe its time t ojust let it go and move on with our lives.
Turn on your spell checker.
How does the town of Brookfield with 6391 registered voters and a population of about 6500 come up with over 11000 votes?
I am sorry but the math just does not add up. I looked up the population and the number of registered voters in the Wisconsin state records.
How is that possible with out fraud?
For some reason, frequently when I click on a link that takes me to a Tweet, I can’t get out of TwitterLand without closing the entire tab.
That just happened with David’s link at “does not yield any red flags.”
Does anyone else run into this? Or is there some trick I don’t know about? Thanks to anyone who can answer this and is still reading (this is not a site specific issue; it happens to me frequently whenever following a link to a Tweet).
If this is what happens with links to Tweets, can there please be a warning?
I just saw a comment that said 2006 population was about 40K– are you sure of your figures?