The reaction to S&P’s warning of a debt downgrade has been as predictable as it was swift. Paul Ryan responded that the debt “threatens not only the livelihoods of future generations, but also the economic security of American families today.” Eric Cantor described the S&P action as “a wake-up call.” House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy, another “Young Gun,” said pretty much the same thing.
It’s all very precious. An entity funded by the big banks makes a judgment (which shouldn’t be seen apart from their other discredited judgments) about the debt. The party most allied with the big banks uses that judgment to demand that their preferred policy, which doesn’t reduce the national debt for THIRTY YEARS, must be enacted immediately. Incidentally, that preferred policy reduces taxes on the rich, including the rich executives at the big banks.
Cantor used the report to push back on any effort to pass a clean debt limit bill. We know this is all kabuki, as the debt limit has been assured an increase in private. By contrast, Peter Welch just sent a letter from 114 House Democrats claiming that the S&P threat meant that a clean debt limit vote must be scheduled immediately.
“America pays its bills,” said Welch. “I hope Majority Leader Cantor and those in Congress seizing upon debt ceiling pressure as a ‘leverage opportunity’ are listening to the markets today and thinking twice about their risky strategy. Mr. Cantor should today abandon his dangerous plan to leverage America’s duty to pay its bills to achieve a partisan advantage in budget disputes. By playing brinksmanship with the debt ceiling, he is willfully risking the full faith and credit of the United States of America. The markets have doubts about America’s ability to get its fiscal house in order. And they are right. If Mr. Cantor persists in playing politics with the debt limit he will be held accountable for unleashing the financial hounds of hell.”
The letter is addressed to Democratic leaders to make it the official policy of the caucus not to agree to anything but a clean debt limit vote.
The White House, playing its usual role, said through Press Secretary Jay Carney that the incident offered “a reminder that we need an agreement on fiscal reform” from both parties. It’s as if the President represents some party from nowhere. Forget the birth certificate, is he a stealth Whig?





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I agree. I’m pretty tired of President Obama pretending he is not a Democrat to the detriment of both himself and the party. He’s found a pretty sure way to fail in 2012, if not for himself, then for the Democrats generally. I liked the Krugman piece and it fits in nicely with the President-as-outsider line.
I’m glad Peter Welch has a brain, a spine and a conscience.
He represents the party of the White House–in short, himself. No one else has any relevance.
While I disagree with some of Nat Hentoff’s political stands of late, he was certainly correct in his analysis of President Obama: “His only principle is his own aggrandizement. This is a very dangerous mindset for a president to have.”
Uh, Peter Welch’s statement is as foolish as Cantor’s.
“The markets have doubts about America’s ability to get its fiscal house in order. And they are right.”
If the “market” fears anything, it’s that the crazies and the willfully ignorant will make the nation ungovernable. Welch ambiguous language just plays into the deficit hysteria.
Weren’t these rating agencies the same folks who missed the housing bubble and who rated junk securitized mortgages as AAA, double plus good good. So we are supposed to take them seriously? The people we just bailed out????
Obama acts as if he believes he was hired as an impatial mediator…..and not the Democratic President. The man is a worthless fool. And a uselful tool for the powers that be. No credible Republican will run since Obama is serving his purpose so well.
Standard & Poors? The same people who rated crap as AAA?
Every actor in this piece has crap for credibility anymore. Gah.
I’ve always thought that was an odd name for a financial ratings agency, but now I suppose it will be increasingly standard for many of us to be poor.
Past performance does not guarantee future
returnsshlock.You leave off the little tidbit that Standard & Poors specifically mentioned entitlement reform. So, not only are they blackmailing the federal government, they are telling them what they must do to keep their AAA rating.
This is blatant fascist blackmail out in the open. No doubt if(ha!) Obama actually stuck to his rhetorical guns and actually succeeded on raising some taxes on the rich, S & P would threaten to downgrade the credit rating because the tax hike on the rich, ie them, was bad for the economy.
Time to cut the Gordian knot. Nationalize the bastards.
Oh noes! S&P said jump! The pols better ask how high.
Agreed.
There is the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, and the Obama Party — that was the whole meaning behind establishing OFA. I mean,jeez, they’re not Democrats for America, are they?
I believe those of us who saw this during the primaries were told to join some other party — the party of bitter knitters, I believe.
I very definitely took my cue, refused to join the Obama Party, left the Democratic Party, registered Independent. I may vote for some Democrats down-ticket, but can’t vote for the Obama Party at the top of the ticket. Perhaps I’ll write in a member of the Bitter Knitters party.
lmao
Political party “Hostage Taking” and the American people are the hostages. Sad fact is America is right on the brink of default and the recent spike in the price of energy is the triggering mechanism just as 147.50 per barrel of oil triggered the last meltdown. Five dollar per gallon gas might well be the final nail in the coffin for the America people as this “scorched earth policy,” employed by the corporatist, pushed by the US Chamber of Commerce and coddled by politicians the chamber funds is a direct assault on the governed who do not have the money to buy politicians, as the corporatist can, from the wealth they extract from society. Jefferson is correct! The undue influence of money obliterates rights and buys law inconsistent with constitutional protections for living breathing human beings.
Standard & Poor’s said what? And who cares? A bigger bunch of lying corp shills cannot be found anywhere on the planet. Any citizen who listens to them is a fool or ignorant or both.
Pres Empty Suit is playing his assigned role in this particular “act” of the Kabuki Show. What a load of horse manure.
Just a reminder, California tied their hands years ago like Cantor is proposing, and what’s their debt rating now? A-, I think, not much higher than Greece’s. Cantor says it’s a “wake-up call,” but it doesn’t appear he’s waking up.
What was the role of S$P and Moody’s in the most recent meltdown concerning CDO/MBS? To hell with those assholes………
Shorter wingnut: Do what I say now, otherwise I’ll shoot you now rather than 30 years from now.
On second thought, no matter what you do now, I’ll do my best to make sure you’re dead asap.
(Political metaphors, mods, not outright violence, though how many innocents will end up actually dead owing to political malpractice is another matter.)
“No credible Republican will run since Obama is serving his purpose so well.”
Your wrong, he’s not right wing “enough” for them. I spent the week talking with one of their elite a BV$H pioneer and a huge contributor to GOP candidates. He really believes that Obama is a Socialist no less. From our perch far to the left of this man ( Obama) looks like a right winger but we must remember the GOP is now far to the right of the National Socialists ( whom they also LOL consider Socialists.) That they don’t have a candidate at present won’t last long.
I have to believe Obama is working the phones, setting the strategy, lining up votes, etc. But keeping up this neutral face in public.
I must believe it, truth be told.
Make the poor poorer and the rich richer cut entitltments and Social security. Better still deport anyone below moderate income. ????? The Obama care plan. Tax loopholes for the rich. Yuk. Must be the radiation in the air
With regard to the debt ceiling, Geithner is crying his usual “civilization will end” wolf routine. He says SS & medicare payments will stop in May or June… and obviously that can’t happen. After that, we’d begin to default on debt. I wonder… why does debt get paid before SS?
I think we should play his game. And I disagree with having a clean debt ceiling vote.
I understand that law dictates the order in which payments are made… and that debt gets paid before SS. So I suggest we encourage our CongressCritters to rewrite the law.
For example, SS gets paid first, debt gets paid last. BUT “debt” should be further broken down. I think there’s logic in bifurcating debt from interest on debt, but better than that… we should ensure that Lord Loyd Blankfein gets paid LAST. Perhaps we could simply write legislation that pays all Federal Reserve “primary dealer” debts last?
And hopefully, Loyd and The Banksters will never get paid.
And while Congress is rewriting the debt priorities law, they can add one more policy rider to the debt ceiling vote…
The CRAs are codified in law. I say eliminate them from the law.
Hopefully they’ll go bankrupt, along with Goldman, quickly.
Yeah… I say no clean debt vote. Instead, I say clean house!
S&P’s is not independent. They are actors reading their lines, doing their part to impoverish and enslave the working class. We are supposed to believe that our pensions were taken from us to save the U.S. credit rating. This is a pernicious lie.
NYT room for debate: Is Anyone Listening to the S.&P.?
L. Randall Wray sez:
“debate” also includes yves smith (naked capitalism)
The Levin subcommittee report a very clear indictment of the performance of the major ratings companies, including S&P.
Figure 3-1 in that report compares Moody’s share price to that of several big financial houses, showing a very sharp increase from about 2003 to 2007.
S&P is part of McGraw-Hill, so some assembly is required in generating a similar chart. Taking data from McGraw-Hill’s Investor Fact Books on their web site, S&P accounted for 60% of MHP corporate profit in 2003, increasing to 75% in 2006. MHP stock price increase more than twofold in that same time span (from about $30 to $70 a share), almost perfectly correlated to the increase in S&P profits. Which, as Senator Levin reminds us, were driven largely by issuing AAA ratings to junk.
Now, of course, S&P has had a change of heart and can be trusted again.
And Lucy is going to hold onto that football this time.
S & P? Weren’t they some of the assholes who rated Goldman Sachs’ shit products AAA before GS peddled them off? Didn’t Sen. Levin called that a ‘shitty deal’ when quoting GS’s sales people?
Sounds like a reputable ratings firm.
He’s a stealth opportunist, with no fixed principle. As Ralph Nader pegged him, simply a Con Man.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/10/nader-obamas-a-con-man-hints-at-indie-run-in-2012/
Lucy… haha…
I still think it’s beyond stupid that Congress writes their own laws and codifies the CRAs. Remove them from the law and watch them go bellyup as investors will look elsewhere for independent credit ratings.
And yes, I realize there would be turmoil. But this idea that we can prop up countries (i.e. Mubarak) or stock markets is simply absurd to me. From my perspective the problem is that there is either no one in Washington who is clever enough to create an alternative… or there is no one clever with any juice.
Funny how they never downgraded Wall Street’s securitized mortgages or AIG’s credit default swaps which completely tanked the world economy and cost taxpayers trillions of dollars. Please, these shills have less than zero credibility.