Here’s more fodder for why the debt limit will certainly be extended: the Chamber of Commerce is now involved.
Financial industry executives, business leaders and Treasury Department officials are visiting the freshmen in their offices, briefing them in small groups and even cornering them at dinner parties. It’s all part of a behind-the-scenes campaign to school congressional newcomers in the economic stakes of Washington’s next big fiscal fight: over the debt ceiling [...]
“We say: ‘Guys, if we breach it, if we default on our debt, it would make it even harder to pay it back because of the interest costs. And we know that’s not your goal, so just FYI,’ ” said one financial industry executive who, like some others interviewed, spoke on the condition of anonymity to recall private conversations with lawmakers.
Members of the Financial Services Forum — which represents the chief executives of 20 of the nation’s largest financial institutions — the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other industry groups have fanned out across Capitol Hill to press lawmakers [...]
Bruce Josten, the Chamber of Commerce’s top government affairs executive, said he has met with dozens of lawmakers on the debt ceiling and brings charts with him.
“If you’re a new member of Congress, how the hell would you know all of this?” Josten said.
There’s never been a more powerful lobbying team than the one assembled on this vote. And not only are the members of Congress who need to be reached amenable to their persuasions, they are in many cases wholly owned properties of entities like the Chamber of Commerce. The Chamber spent $30 million on House Republican candidates last year. If they can’t bring enough of them along to vote, nobody can.
John Harwood adds that Republicans have agreed to raise the debt limit not only in public but in private conversations with the President. I don’t know if he’s merely referring to Tim Geithner’s statement over the weekend or some other conversation he was privy to. The point is that the leadership wants to raise the limit, and the freshmen are getting raked over the coals on the issue by their funders. If the Administration would just stay in one place, they can get the debt limit increased without any attachments. The choice is up to them.
…I guess Alan Greenspan mused about why there’s a debt limit at all yesterday on Meet the Press. I can’t find the link right now, but last week Thomas Geoghegan compellingly argued that the debt limit concept is unconstitutional. Other countries don’t have this at all. A lot of politicians would be happy if we joined them.
LATE UPDATE: The Geoghegan piece.





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Except for the attachments they want, you mean.
Not to worry, Obama will negotiate with himself, before negotiations even start.
I can’t find the link right now
but last week Thomas Geoghegan compellingly argued that the debt limit concept is unconstitutional. Other countries don’t have this at all. A lot of politicians would be happy if we joined them.
Here’s a link to that, David
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/hendrikhertzberg/2011/04/mr-justice-geoghegan-dissenting.html
But then they couldn’t use the R word. Reluctantly.
If they don’t raise it then the public pressure would be too hard for them to keep skirting taxes! That’s it in a nutshell.
It’s their damned party that drove up the national debt from $1-trillion in 1981 to where it is now, so they have no right to complain.
Reply to nonpartisanliberal
Obama added at least a trilliion for the bailout of the ToBigToFail
The US Chamber of Commerce? Another One of those tax exempt corporations looking to use “undisclosed political contributions” for political purposes usurping the due process rights of citizens in respective states? Revoke the tax exempt status they enjoy and the advantages used to line the pockets of the undisclosed corporate contributors, at the expense of a nation. Keeping secrets and dirt-bags have much in common. Misinformation, lies and yuck-head mentalities, come to mind. Like Lies embraced by supreme court justices, Negroes are inferior and property or that money is speech? BULLSHIT! Do you know what money buys? Amplification to say lies enough times so that the lies becomes truth in the minds of the duped. Ask the three dead Marlboro men, if you can?
interesting
from Politico
By THOMAS GEOGHEGAN | 3/31/11
Did you miss it when Bernanke begged G. Bush to bail them out? Evidently, you missed Bush on the tv telling the world that he had to support this or the world’s economy would crash.
Daaaayum, Geenspan’s going all Modern Money Theory on us. /s
Thanks for that. I’ve been wondering …
Oh, I don’t know. You could take the time to study the difference between your ass and a hole in the ground on the matters you’re most likely to have to make decisions on before you decide to run for Congress.
It turns out that pageants are an absolutely terrible way to pick a government. Who knew?
Indeed. The larger EU members have had some success trying to push debt limits on the weaker members lately, but no major first-world economy operates with this idiotic arbitrary fictional constraint.
The only purpose of the debt-limit is political exploitation. Full stop.
Every ‘crisis’ equals shock doctrine.
The only reason we have a debt ceiling is because Congress created one in 1917 as the US was entering the First World War.
The original US debt limit was intended to rein in the War Department. Didn’t work out all that well.
Obama’s too busy courting Wall Street for campaign cash. In this post-Citizens-United world, he wants to put together a warchest so big it frightens off Mitt Romney or any other semi-sane/electable self-funding Republican so that only unelectable dingbats like DeMint or Bachmann (or utter no-hopers like Pawlenty) have a shot at the GOP presidential nomination.
Of course, this means that Social Security is on the chopping block along with Medicare, and that’s why we’re seeing Obama allies like Mark Warner spew Pete-Peterson-propagated irrelevancies such as the “worker to retiree ratio” that have nothing to do with Social Security’s solvency.
Resoponse to PeasantParty 10In response to waynec @ 10
“Did you miss it when Bernanke begged G. Bush to bail them out? Evidently, you missed Bush on the tv telling the world that he had to support this or the world’s economy would crash.”
PeasantParty,
No, I didn’t miss it.
Just saying that both sides of the isle are to blame.
My fear is that as soon as Americans catch their collective breath, hyper inflation will descend on this country in a way that has never been seen before.
The shit hasn’t hit the fan yet.
I’m now betting that Warner will be Obama’s running mate in 2012.
My money used to be on Evan Bayh.
hyperinflation? lol.
??? Really?
You don’t understand the conditions that lead to hyperinflation.
You might as well be afraid that unicorns are going to kidnap your family and publish a NYT bestseller about it.
Nathan Aschbacher April 18th, 2011 at 11:14 am
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In response to waynec @ 19 (show text)
Educate me.