Thanks DDay.

FWIW, Walker issued this, this morning in response to a leak to Forbes over the weekend.Walker: No truth to financial martial law report

Based on your reporting, it looks like Walker’s attempt to protect the R lead in the Wisconsin Senate.

the best GOPers I know are un-employed!

good work! people of Wisconsin

the Dems in DC could learn a lot from U.

the only way to deal with crazy GOPers is to send them to the un-employment line.

A Wise person once said
don’t argue with a fool, because no one will be able to tell who is the fool and who is not.

I’m sure he’d love to try it — and would have tried it if not for the fierce resistance to his union-busting bill.

While conservative activists have hinted that they have achieved enough signatures to recall Democratic members of the Senate, they have yet to file any petitions with the GAB. Democrats have now filed three, and they started their efforts a bit later than Republicans.

And the Republicans are using paid signature-gatherers. In other words, people who have a monetary incentive for padding their signature totals.

They’ll have to gather a lot of signatures in order to hope to have enough legitimate ones to meet the required numbers.

And here it is!

From http://www.startribune.com/local/120060409.html –

Wisconsin Democrats delivered a petition Monday with enough signatures to recall a third Republican state senator who voted to strip most of public employees’ collective bargaining rights.

Ann Schmidt, organizer for the committee to recall Sen. Luther Olsen of Ripon, submitted about 24,000 signatures to the state Government Accountability Board. If the board finds at least 14,733 signatures are valid, officials would call a recall election six weeks from the date of certification.

[...]

Olsen was not initially seen as one of the more vulnerable Republicans. He ran unopposed in 2008 and lives in a Republican-leaning district. But Schmidt, 56, said Olsen’s support of the collective bargaining bill pushed by Gov. Scott Walker was a “tipping point” for many residents.

Oh, and if the Republicans are gonna recall anyone, they have a week in which to it. The Democrats, meanwhile, have until May 1.

In terms of the number of valid signatures required to force recall elections of the 8 Republican senators, Dems have now filed in the cases of the 6th most necessary sigs (Kapanke), 7th most (Hopper), and the 8th most (Olsen). In 2 of the 5 remaining cases, fewer than 16,000 sigs are required. In the other 3, more than 20,000 are required.

Power to the People!

I hope they get all eight and kick each of their asses out of office.

Awesome work on the part of union and democratic activists. Almost half of the targeted districts actually getting the recall numbers needed to force a recall is pretty remarkable.

Great news how many GOPers total are we trying to recall?

If the GOPers had any recalls of their own well since they started before we did shouldn’t they have announced them by now? I mean Sarah Palin finally came to Wisconsin once she thought it was safe over the weekend her and Walker on stage announcing GOP recalls of Dems would have been dramatic tv.
But the GOP said nothing? What are they waiting for we got how many and they have yet to announce one? This is horrible PR. I think the GOP only said they were going to recall us because we said we were doing it to them but they thought it was an empty threat on our part because they are sooo popular/s.
Now the GOP is playing catch up with paid signature-gatherers?
The problem is that except for a few days the Weather sucks here in Chicago, Wisconsin is worse nobody standing outside a mall is going to get anyone to slow down and sign a GOP petition in this cold, wind, rain unless they either believe in the GOP cause that much or they feel sorry for a homeless person trying to make a buck.
Also how many GOPers will even let a homeless person approach them with a petition or anything for that matter?

Just keep prayin’, soothsayer.

Let’s all be Wisconsans and suggest to Mr. Holder
that he may be in funny company.

Let’s hold a Party Convention for the purpose of
asking Mr. Obama to let Mr. Cuomo discharge the duties
of upholding the laws of the land and rights of the
citizens.

Let’s place temporary windfall profits taxes on those who benefited from
demonstrable corruption.

Let’s propose formation of a 2 new cabinet positions:

Office of Ombudsman Oversight and Open-Minded But Rational and
Anti-Deceptive Review. (OOOOAMRBADR)

Office of Honest Upholding of the Principles of the Declaration of
Independence and False Patriotism Watchdog (OHUPDIFPW)

http://sites.google.com/site/evernewecon

They were originally targeting the 8 that they could(since only 8 had been in office long enough).

I’m sure that will be expanded after January when the other folks and Walker have been in office long enough to face a recall. At least I hope so. There were 3 to 4 of them that had real thin margins and they won seats from an incumbent Demmocrat.

If the GOP is going to act like a bunch of partisan buttwipes then the deserve to have their backsides kicked in by voters.

AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen David Dayen:

You are cordially invited to the St Croix County Government Center this evening at 6:00 to participate in the rally celebrating the petition filing for the recall of fascist State Senator Sheila Harsdorf. Hardsdorf is the archetype for the white, middle class, surburban politician who represents corporate interests over a district that stands to lose the most in the new fascist public economy. This district has been dark red for a long time and those who make up her voting base are middle and uppper middle class folks who rely on public schools and public universities for their children and rely on state and county services to facilitate their comuter life styles the 50 miles to and from the Twin Cities. The budget cuts that Harsdorf has supported, would gut one of the wealthiest county governments in the state.

This recall election is going to be a real opportunity to challenge the assumptions of many who have been voting Republican and living off the services and advantages provided by Democratic programs and policies. If the people in this district succeed in recalling this particular state senator, then the rest of the fascist trash have a rendezvious with the dumpster.

And to those who have been howlin’ and whinnin’ about “Democrats” and Obama, this recall is a broadbased coalition effort of which the Democratioc Party is just a member and the recall election will be an open contest…this is an example of what I have been talkin about – to create a progressive Democratic Party at the local and state level that is responsive to common peoples’ politics and needs.

P.S. And there will be at least 6 recalls of Republicans and probably no Democrats recalled…all we need to swing the State Senate is 3 of ‘em!
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…AND ORGANIZE!!!

On Wisconsin.

I just wished Alberta Darling was on the list! But, 6 is a good number! Hopefully in 2012 there is enough signatures for a one year for Walker!

I also wish we could get a recall for Congressmen Sensenbrenner from the federal government! He just holds too many votes in Waukesha, you know where the vote count is always wrong!

Citizen jrubin 1:

There are already enough commitments tucked away on computer lists to file recall of Walker by the end of January (can’t start the effort until January 2)…Walker is toast and he knows it and a lot of elected Republifascists are gettin the message now too. This is why he’s tryin ta ram all this stuff through this rump legislature…fascism is nuthin but rightwing anarchy!

ok, I LOVE sayin’ I told ya so !

saw far too many people get discouraged just because Wisconsin wasn’t in the interwebs headlines every day – these good people are m-o-t-i-v-a-t-e-d AND o-r-g-a-n-i-z-e-d

they demonstrate daily what all of us must do if we ever want to win

Darling is one of the 8 targeted for recall

bet there’s plenty of volunteer slots still open :D

I don’t pray. I spit on God.

When are the elections scheduled?

NJ’s state constitution had a provision permitting recall of US Senators and Representatives. A Tea Party group tried to organize a recall of Sen Robert Menendez. The NJ Supreme Court ruled the state constitutional provision violated the US Constitution.

Your believing friends must be so proud.

Clever retort.

I guess you thought you had to say something.

The correct answer is that no elections are scheduled.

You were the only one talking about elections. The rest of us were talking about recall petitions.

The correct answer is that no elections are scheduled.

Yet

You’ve moved the goalposts I see.

Initially you were claiming they wouldn’t garner enough signatures in previous threads to

Whoops, guess you were off on that prediction.

Good quibble.

No elections are scheduled because it has not been certified that an adequate number of valid signatures has been gathered. Do you understand the difference between signatures and valid signatures?

Excellent quibble.

They have not, as far as anybody knows, gathered an adequate number of valid signatures to force even 1 recall election.

So let’s just play a little what if here. Are you going to apologize to everyone if/when signatures are certified and actual recall elections are held or will you just keep on moving the goal posts to fit your personal narrative?

I mean, like, wow, if wishes were horses, JoAnne Kloppenburg would have been elected to the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Not to mention all that hopey, changey stuff would have worked out for ya. Hardy har har. Hardy har har.

The soothsayer will say he never made those statements when the petition drives started. Too bad we’ve still got them. Almost as good as video. Or maybe a sockpuppet made those predictions.

So, yes, you will continue to move the goal posts?

Because you did not answer the question.

You see, I’m not wishing or anything; I just asked a simple hypothetical question which you choose to mock rather than answer.

Or let me re-phrase the question, how will you respond if it turns out there have been enough certified signatures gathered and the re-call elections are held.

To be honest, at this point, I’d be willing to make a wager that recall elections are just a matter of time and the GAB is waiting only for the petition signature gathering period to end before certifying all at one time. I believe even you have pointed this out as making sense to do.

as far as I’m aware Joanne hasn’t conceded. I mean if we’re going to go with the “as far as I’m aware argument” then you ought to at least apply it equally.

I had hoped the districts that have turned in petitions had continued collecting signatures right up to the deadline. There are undoubtedly unregistered people on the right who signed those petitions to try to sabotage the effort. Probably wouldn’t have been successful but I don’t put anything past these people. Lie, cheat, steal is a way of life for them.

I would have been more comfortable if even 1 “journalist” had questioned a member of the MS legislature, preferably a sponsor or co-sponsor, about the prospects (back in February, before the storm broke) for passage of the N.B. Forrest commemorative tag measure. The only Mississippians I saw quoted were Barbour and the head of the state NAACP. The brouhaha was merely an attempt to embarrass Haley Barbour. The measure failed. Nevertheless, Barbour should be condemned for not being sincere enough for libs. To be even nearly satisfied, libs need to see actual weeping-with-passion.

And that has what to do with recall efforts in WI?

Utah GOPers (or TeaPartiers if anyone thinks they are different) paid petition workers from out of state and, perhaps, one of them may be a thief:
>http://bluecheddar.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/15000-signatures-gathered-to-recall-dem-david-hansen-republican-canvasser-caught-stealing/

And perhaps a faux robbery at the Green Bay office of the recall Sen. Hansen? Looks like an inside job to me.

What is it with Regressives from Utah? Heavy in Prop H8 in CA, droves in WI to help the Regressives there.

Republican wishes are not to get caught stuffing the ballot box in Waukesha

Haley Barbour embarrasses himself, thank you.

The votes have already been counted once by election officials. In the recall matters, the signatures have never been counted by election officials. Kloppenburg is entitled to, but has not asked, for a recount. The margin is about 7,300 votes out of about 1.5 million cast. Al Franken’s race against Norm Coleman, for example, involved a margin of 750 or fewer in an election with 3 million votes cast.

Has Kloppenburg conceded? Using your own standard until she does the GOP ain’t won crap.

Kloppenburg doesn’t need to concede to be declared the loser.

You ask if I will continue to beat my wife?

I have never moved the goalposts that I am aware. I said there would be no recall elections, not of Dems and not of Repubs, which seems to me to be the same thing as saying the necessary number of valid signatures would not be gathered, in any district whose state senator began his/her current term in 2009.

Lots of folks who comment here are ESL types and that might have confused you.

So will you apologize for wasting everyone’s time if the WI GAB does certify the signatures sometime after the first of May and does declare at least one recall election?

For after all, because they have not yet done so, does not mean they won’t do so sometime over the next few weeks.

For wasting everyone’s time? Compared to whom? Compared to you? How about if you apologize for sheer pretentiousness?

I have nothing for which to apologize.