We keep seeing this spectacle of top US military officials going to Iraq for meetings with the political leadership, and saying loudly that if they want US troops to stay in the country beyond the December 2011 date, they’d better make up their minds soon. Mind you, no Iraqi official has said publicly – or, reading between the lines of all the statements, privately – that they want the US to stay. It seems like the US is attempting to master the art of the haggle:
US military: Do you want us to stay?
Iraq: No
US military: Now, you have to make up your minds. We must know immediately if you want us to stay.
Iraq: No
US military: Be serious about this. It takes a lot of time to get all these troops out, so we need to know now.
Iraq: No
US military: OK, we’ll give you one last chance….
Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, is the latest Pentagon leader to visit Iraq with this message. He stressed that no formal talks have been held on extending the US military deployment, but the leading statements are clear in their intent. “Should the Iraqi government desire to discuss the potential for some US troops to stay, I am certain my government will welcome that dialogue,” Mullen said, without much nuance. However, Mullen and others before him keep insisting that the Iraqis must ask for the extension. And Iraqi politics being what they are, I don’t see how Nouri al-Maliki can possibly do that. Not if he wants to remain in power. Witness this nugget buried in an AP article:
Mullen sought to deflect any question that the U.S. is pushing for a troop extension, saying that there has been a lot of “interest and some confusion” on the issue.
“There are no plans — nor has there been any requests from the Iraqi government — for any residual U.S. force presence here after this December,” he said [...]
Mullen praised the Iraqi forces, saying they had made “incredible progress,” but said there were certain areas such as “air defense, intelligence” and logistics that are potential “vulnerabilities” for the Iraqi forces in the future.
During a meeting Thursday, al-Maliki told Mullen that Iraqi forces are able to maintain security in their own country.
I’ve talked a lot about protests in the Arab world, and you can add to that the protests against the US occupation in Iraq. Five thousand protesters demonstrated in Mosul Friday, demanding no extension of the US military presence. This has been going on for 16 days in Iraq, with a mass sit-in at al-Ahrar Square. Protests gathered at Tahrir Square in Baghdad (they have one) in support of total withdrawal by the end of the year. So in addition to the threat of the resumption of the Mahdi Army by Muqtada al-Sadr if the troops stay, you have mass popular opposition to the idea as well.
Any extension of the US military presence will lead to the downfall of the Iraqi regime, and the current political leadership knows it.
That doesn’t mean that an extension won’t happen. Behind the scenes, I’m sure US operatives are moving furiously to try and secure an extension, and they have a lot of influence at their disposal. But the interests of the Iraqi government all point to a total withdrawal, whether the US likes it or not. As I’ve said, the only time we leave war zones is by being chased. My money in Iraq is on being chased.




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This is quite a dilemma for the U.S. Giving up a military presence in Iraq after all the investment in permanent bases would be traumatic for the Pentagon. Balad Air Base alone is one of the largest American military installations on foreign soil. At one time it was second only to Heathrow Airport in air traffic, in world standing.
I believe that the CIA can be depended upon to spring some surprise which might cause the Iraqi administration to request a continued U.S. military presence. The Samarra mosque bombing, resulting in a civil war, served such a purpose in Iraq five years ago when it looked like the US could withdraw. More recently the Cheonan sinking in Korean waters, with inconclusive proof of the reason, has caused the delay in the turnover of U.S. military operational control to the South Koreans. So there is some precedence for black ops in cases like this.
The US has two agreements with Iraq which were purposely not treated as a treaty. In the US they were treated as an executive agreement — SOFA was a convenient term — so as to avoid senate advice and consent in accordance with the US Constitution. The Repubs and the Dems were complicit in this subterfuge in the fall of 2008, Obama and Biden being the lead Dems at this time. (The process on the Iraq side was more open.)
There aren’t even any US documents. All we have are translations of Iraqi documents.
On November 26, 2007, President Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki co-signed the Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship Between the Republic of Iraq and the United States of America.
There are two agreements:
* a withdrawal of forces agreement: “All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011.
* a Strategic Framework Agreement: “the Parties shall continue to foster close cooperation concerning defense and security arrangements without prejudice to Iraqi sovereignty over its land, sea, and air territory.”
The U.S. wants to alter the withdrawal agreement. It will be easy to do on the U.S. side, with no messy democratic processes to worry about, but on the Iraq side there is are strong citizen feelings as we have seen.
David, here is an article that may say a lot about this subject:
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/04/2011415181326266737.html
It certainly says a lot about “what we are fighting for”.
We seem to be haggling with ourselves thinking we are haggling with the Iraqi’s I was under the impression all the Iraqi’s want us out.
Hey I saw this movie before Substitute drunk guy for US Military and Iraq for Blond wishing the Drunk Guy would go away the next scene always involves someone coming up and telling the drunk guy to leave.
Myths, history follows patterns the hero with a thousand faces has villains but this face I have seen a thousand times in a thousand bad movies.
I expect the Army to create a situation where Iraq either asks for American help or America feels so threatened they feel they can ignore Iraqi public opinion.
I’m guessing an Iranian Gulf of Tonkin incident.
Heard a report a few weeks ago that we need to stay till 2018 to train the Iraqi Air Force. Guess they need an air force to go with the military air field we’re building for them.
So glad we’re building important infrastructure so they can properly protect our oil interests.
Wonder if all the Iraqi people are able to get potable water yet?
I think it’s very possible the latest increase in Iraq violence was orchestrated by the CIA in order to say, “See? You need the U.S. military to protect you!”
If the US does in fact get chased. I think it wuold be a very therapeutic, healthy, positive event for both parties. Grown up nations are not occupied by other nations. Grown up nations are not occupiers.
Isn’t it about time that the CIA bucked some of these crazy ideas to keep America working a poverty plan?
Besides we have to contend with this awful, scarey, dreadful, horrendous budget crisis. We can’t afford anymore war. There is no tax base to support military operations.
The only correct move here is to withdraw.
No Iraki will buy any false-flag crap, and your average American war support is so low, they don’t want to buy it either.
ترك الآن = Leave Now, and I’m certain is a universal Iraki sentiment.
Baghdad (CNN) — An Iraqi army general was killed Sunday when a bomb attached to his car exploded while he was driving in western Baghdad, officials with the nation’s interior ministry said.
You can be sure that, behind the curtain on this kabuki dance, CIA, DIA, NSA,Special Ops, Black Ops, Contractor Ops are working 24/7 pressuring, cajoling threatening, bribing every Iraqi official locatable to force an agreement to extend US Military presence in Iraq open-ended. Rebagger plus Conserva-Dems have taken Pentagon-Intel entities’ accountability and controllability off the table. US civilians are bystanders in their own country.
Leave Iraq again ?…..erhmmmm.Didn’t Rachel Maddow went to Iraq & did a show on MSNBC covering the US pullout of Afghanistan in 2010 ?
Now,really,why would anyone believe the crap they peddle on Corporate TV.
Do you think the CIA woiuld arm and pay a warlord or two to cause some trouble toward the end of the year so the US military can stay in “support ” of Iraqi troops?
Nah…
If Maliki doesn’t watch out, the US will start backing here-to-fore unknown “rebels” who will start accusing him of atrocities, or at least atrocious rhetoric.
Then? Bombs Away!
Nah, they totally wouldn’t buy it.
ترك الأن؟ ان ماذا هي قالت.
I suspect that blowing up a general will help focus their minds.
You thought maybe that a trillion bucks bought something?
Baghdad — A senior US military official said Wednesday that keeping some US forces in the country would be “best for Iraq” and warned that the Iraqi military was not equipped to ward off threats in an increasingly volatile region.
“When we do leave Iraq, it will probably have less capability in terms of military hardware than any of its neighbors,” he said, adding that even tiny Kuwait next door probably has more tanks.
Iraq has 63 tanks and tiny Kuwait has over 300.
As we said during Vietnam: Do what Nixon’s father should have done — pull out.
Teddy Partridge is upstairs!
Sunday Late Night: Rabbit Havoc
Concur — We should understand what that “Mission Accomplished” banner The Shrub flew out to sea and landed on a USN CVN for was about.
Part One of mission was to bust into Iraq — Shock and Awe or Death and Destruction Comes to Iraq.
Part Two of mission was to mess Iraq up real good with inept American occupation regime (done)while undoing Saddam’s regime,Iraqi nationalized oil fields and putting in big American military bases which are now pointed at Iran(done).
Who now still runs Iraq’s air space? USAF does.
The Iraqi Air Force? An American strung and “in training” puppet.
Part Three of mission now becomes American Militarism staying on in Iraq.The massive bases and American Embassy Fortress in Baghdad all about Americans staying in Iraq — not leaving. Gates and Mullen saying as much.
See Germany,Japan and S.Korea for American tendency to stay — not leave.
Iraq would do well to kick Americans out. USA has busted up Iraq enough as is.
What happen in Europe, the local communities have become dependent the bases and every time they threaten closure the city officials would beg them to reconsider.
There are many local people in most countries where we have bases that provide jobs (though menial in most cases) that help the military in some capacity.
You see this all over Germany…
The Iraqis are making it very clear that they do not want a continued U.S. military or para-military presence in their country after the end of this year. The U.S. is like a rapist that keeps insisting that while his victim struggles and yells No NO their eyes are saying Yes Yes.