It was too premature for people to yell “Where are the Democrats?” in response to the passage of the Paul Ryan budget that ends Medicare and cripples Medicaid and food stamps. The above Americans United for Change ad, airing in several Republican districts (including wackjob Steve King’s, which through redistricting is more blue and where Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack’s wife Christine is making a run), is only the beginning. The thing Republicans smartly did was to propose and pass the Ryan budget in the House in a week; because the health care bill took months to get off the ground, conservative activists were able to have plenty of time to mount a counter-offensive. The thing Republicans did not do so smartly was pass a bill that ended Medicare without having the Senate or the Presidency; now, that bill will linger, and continue to be a ripe subject for criticism. Republicans probably helped themselves from a policy standpoint by passing the most far to the right budget possible, but politically it will unquestionably hurt them. And Republicans feeling pressure in their home districts know this.
Congress is on its first recess since Republican leaders unveiled a plan to end the federal deficit by dramatically changing Medicare, cutting other government programs and reducing taxes. With members of the House returning home to meet with constituents, politicians have been anxiously looking for signs of trouble.
…in many places, Democrats turned out to express their opposition, much as Republicans had done in the healthcare debate. In a Pennsylvania coal town, a man outraged by the GOP budget plan was escorted out of a town hall by police. In Wisconsin, Rep. Paul D. Ryan, the architect of the Republican plan, was booed in his own district as he outlined the proposal.
Here in Hillsborough (New Hampshire), a bedroom community in a state known for a fiscally conservative streak, (Rep. Charlie) Bass painted a doomsday picture, saying the country would be “basically ruined” if it did not curb the growth of government. But a group of gray-haired constituents — most later identified themselves as Democrats — quickly pushed him back on his heels. He struggled to defend the GOP plan vigorously, once mischaracterizing a key element. By the time he left, he seemed less than wedded to the details.
One reason why we’re not necessarily hearing about every town hall in America being overrun by angry seniors is that many Republicans are just avoiding meeting with constituents. That’s not a very sustainable solution, of course.
Democrats in the Senate are considering putting the Ryan budget up for a vote to draw out Republicans on the issue. They obviously think they have a political winner here. Not one House Democrat voted for the Ryan budget, and I would expect the same to hold in the Senate. Susan Collins (R-ME) has already come out against the Ryan budget.
There’s definitely a lot of risk involved to Republicans for proposing an end to Medicare. But there’s far more risk to social policy from Republicans moving so far to the right and Democrats not holding their ground, shifting the center and promising major cutbacks in spending that will most likely hurt the middle class and the poor.




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When the republicans proposed the Ryan budget so far to the right, the democrats should have countered with a plan that was equally far to the left so that the center could be back in the center again.
Where could they have found such a far left plan you ask? The proposal that was already there from the house progressive caucus. Their plan even balances the budget within 5 years. Ryan’s plan goes for decades without balancing anything.
Great. Our only line of defense is senior citizens. The President gives speeches and does nothing.
Who knew old people would get fussy if you threaten their healthcare.
Sounds like Gore was right to put Social Security in a lock box:) In hindsight Bush’s giving the surplus back as tax cuts for the rich might after the Iraq and Afghan wars be the biggest mistake of his Presidency and depending on how long we are war might be the most expensive of his Presidency long term. I’ll crunch numbers later.
I cannot wait to see the polling on this after the Easter holiday when families get together. If the economy were good right now this would not be a big hit. But to pass this now well how many people on that ends Medicare and cripples Medicaid and food stamps. watch the news and are informed about this issue? How many of them told their relatives if this becomes law I and or I and my family will need a place to stay or we go homeless? Can we get some CBO numbers on that Dems?
How many GOPers and Dems are not thrilled with the idea that their parents, brothers or sisters might need to stay with them?
Politics gets paid attention to when it affects THEM! The GOP was better off just attacking Dark People these cuts affect the poorer rural areas the GOP depends on to win elections as well as poorer urban areas.
The GOP has just depressed their base literally and enraged our base.
Just what are they thinking?
Why is that not sustainable? Maloney almost never holds town hall meetings.
Would you ask cbl to write me?
I’m happy for the push back. Especially in light of the msm calling Ryan “courageous” and “realistic” and politifact calling the DNC ads addressing it “pants on fire” by virtue of parsing words. Maybe people are waking up…
Yes
Thanx. :)
I don’t think Bill Young (FL-10) has ever had a town hall meeting. He meets with his rich cronies and that’s it. He doesn’t even campaign; he’s got Pinellas County by the short hairs just by bringing war industry firms here years ago and his staff’s meticulous attendance to constituent requests for flags and such. During the two elections I worked with Samm Simpson on her runs against him the most common thing I heard was that Young’s office always answered letters and got them what they wanted. Nothing about policy, it was all about what his office had done for that one person. Gonna be interesting to see if he runs again. He’ll be 80, I think. Gonna have to look up whether he voted for Ryan’s bill but it’s a good bet he did.
I’ll be very curious about how much seniors push back and whether that has much influences on the other R party (sometimes inaccurately referred to as Ds).
You think? I certainly do not count on my rightwing fundie family to do anything by clap, cheer, and dance for unbridled joy at Ryan’s budget and call to cut Medicare.
Does that make any sense? Hell, NO!
But my rightwing fundie family ceased making sense a long long time ago. They are so brainwashed by the RushGlenn continuum that they started whiiiiiiiiing about Soc Sec & Medicare entitlement welfare programs (which, emphatically, they are NOT an entitlement, nor are they welfare) a long long long time ago.
Tea Partiers will reliably line up to endorse and cheer for this. Don’t count your chickens & all that. And remember that it’s really hard to put the Genie back into the bottle… just saying….
Republicans running for cover? They can depend on Obama to supply all the cover they need.
Isn’t that what bipartisan friends are for?
Yeah, me too. That said, even IF a huge majority of Seniors lined up to complain, as Dick Cheney would say: SO???? How many times have we seen poll numbers that show a majority in favor of some measure, but Congress votes against that measure & enacts something that favors the Elites???
It doesn’t really matter what the serfs want anymore.
Your comment reminds me lack of town hall meetings also reflects the incumbency thing. Maloney doesn’t get any meaningful opposition.
Aside from its obvious attempt to segregate the health-care system – vouchers applied to any system, think education, always end up segregating a system (the best that money can buy from the left-overs that drop from the ‘table’) where were all the fiscally responsible Republicans when Medicare part D, the prescription drug bill, was enacted. Voting for it en masse, that’s where. And they didn’t even fund it. Obviously, this budget-cutting through the sacrifice of quality health care for the majority is a ruse.
All I know is that they are pushing everything to be privatized at the behest of Corporate entities. There is no savings and no guarantee of any coverage for what seniors need. It also costs them so much more than the Repukes are saying.
If the seniors don’t fight back it will be the end of what is left of Democracy. Those programs are the only thing left where the government has a binding tie to the citizens.
Not to mention Schumer and Conrad.
We got more votes than any Dem ever against Young. We were also the first to get on the ballot by petition. Did it both times. At the time even the local Dem Party apparatus voted for Young. State Sen Charlie Justice ran against him in 10 and got fewer votes than Samm did. He never tried. I got 2 mailers from his campaign and never saw or heard of any campaign events. He’d show up at various events but that was it. Piss poor attempt on Justice’s part.
The past three years my state representatives have had robo-call town hall meetings. Your phone rings and a recorded message tells you the call is from your senator and to please hold. Then the senator comes on the line with a town hall message and takes questions that are obviously faked, and you have no way to get a question in. Then the call ends. Town hall meeting done!
Blue Texan’s regularly scheduled post is up: Tea Party Favorite Nikki Haley (R-SC) Latest Right-Winger to Bash 2012 GOP Hopefuls
I cannot recommend David Harvey’s Brief History of Neoliberalism enough. People have to realize what the grand plan is. It’s about class power, folks. A return to the Gilded Age and Robber Barons. Not as a consequence of events but a deliberate plan.
True! Twooph!
Thanks for that recommend. Some who post here find it hard to believe that it’s a deliberate plan and/or conspiracy (which is a loaded term). I agree that there is planning behind it and you correctly identify the goals and outcomes.
The biggest risks to putting the Ryan budget proposal up in the Senate are:
a) it would pass; and
b) that idiot Obama would sign it.
Dr Harvey lays it out quite well. Really a great concise history of how we got where we are.
Ding Ding Ding
You’re absolutely right. With President Bipartisan or President Cave-a-lot in the WH Republicans have nothing to fear.
Of course it would be signed in the spirit of bipartisanship. That’s the one that says fuck you to the poor, the working and middle class and hooray to the capitalist plutocrats.
This is pretty much “ALL” most Americans have to look forward to in their retirement years and that includes people from all political parties, ethnic and economic groups alike. This is one thing we all have in common. Something we all contributed to during our working lives. The GOP should run and hide. Of all the issues they could take up in the house, they chose to pretty much attack the vast majority of american workers’ futures. Aside from not paying back what funds have been raided from the program, they have borrowed against the funds that are in the program. They owe “US” money with interest. Let’s see a bill mandating that we be made whole again. Why not a bill saying that some of the interest that “WE” the taxpayers earned from the stimulus and tarp loans we made to the people who almost destroyed our economy so that they could go right back to making billions of dollars go to social security. Seriously, what was the payoff for us for being put on the hook like that?? While they are again making record earnings(I really use that word very loosely) and bonuses, our lives have not been improved by it by one red cent. The facts are these: Ninety five percent of us will “NEVER” become very wealthy or even wealthy at all. This is OUR money in these programs. Money taken out of OUR pay checks religiously without fail everytime we got our paychecks. The last thing we want to do with our money is to turn it over to an insurance industry who’s primary concern is to pay themselves millions of dollars in salaries first then dole out dividends to share holders who don’t care about our health. They also want to profit off of our dependence on the only game in town. The house always wins. Insurance companies “NEVER” lose money. No matter how much money they pay out, they always make big profits. They are not the benevolent neighbors they portray themselves as in their commercials. But in light of this bill the real question that we need to ask the GOP today is “Who are you representing”? Us, the American tax payers, the American workers who built this country with our blood and sweat and tears and skills, or the big corporate interests that fund your campaigns?? Plain and simple; are you with us or are you against us. There are no in betweens anymore. Over the last thirty years we have seen more and more laws and policies from you guys that favor “ONLY” corporate interests. Aside from the colorful rhetoric I cannot recall you coming out on the side of the “WORKING CLASS PEOPLE” any time recently, if ever.
“If the seniors don’t fight back it will be the end of what is left of Democracy.”
It’s not the seniors who need to fight back. Ryan’s plan to privatize Medicare doesn’t take effect for 10 years. It’s those under 55 who should be raising holy hell, but for some reason they don’t think it’s their fight. They better wake up and get active or they’ll be either spending a lot of their own money keeping the elderly in their own families healthy, or they’ll be watching them die. And won’t they be surprised, when they reach their later years, that they’re unable to buy adequate insurance for themselves! They’ll have to fight the Medicare wars of 1965 all over again.
Most of us simpletons that can’t see beyond the spin (ballot propositions) just give in. But this attempt to go after social security after we’ve paid in for a lifetime seems to be a direct slap in the face of fairness. I just can’t see this getting through in any way shape or form.
PeasantParty,
That’s how Jeff Denham does it in CA
It’s communication, but only one way.
Your exactly right SueD. The under 55′s are comatose to the fact that they will have nothing when they retire if they do not get involved with this issue. The common answer I get from them is “oh well, I didn’t expect it to be there anyhow”. Iam an airport worker and I talk to people from all over all of the time. I have said this for a long time and I will continue to say this….it is not the Dems or the Repub elected that I worry about. It is the American people……..something is wrong with the people. They vote against themselves in the elections, are uninformed on whats going on around them, think it is ok that they will have to pay large amounts of money to the Insurance Companies and that tax decreases for the rich will create jobs. Then they really believe that if they work really really hard they will someday have what the rich have.
the repugs never have helped snyone but the rich ,why so many slackjaw southernern vote like they are told goes way back to the kkk days the real root of the gop.just good old fashioned racisim,those fucking nazis,really piss me off.
Which will happen, because that’s been the game plan all along.
Sigh… that was NOT a mistake. It was all part of the plan to impoverish this country, cut and gut all social programs and break the backs of the middle class wile further cementing into place a ruling class. Please, stop calling Bush’s society destroying actions “a mistake”. It frames Bush and his ilk as somehow having the best interests of this country and all its citizens in mind when they did what they did. .