This is not some back-bencher, but the leading counter-terrorism adviser:
President Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser called it “inconceivable” that Pakistan was not providing a “support system” for Osama bin Laden, who was killed Sunday in a raid in a mansion north of the capital city of Islamabad.
“We are pursuing all leads on this issue,” Deputy National Security Adviser John Brennan said during a White House briefing. “I think people are raising a number of questions, and understandably so.”
This mirrors similar questions from Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) earlier today.
That’s extremely candid on Brennan’s part, but what else could he say? It makes no sense, given the facts that we know, that Pakistan was completely in the dark. Brennan didn’t speculate on what help bin Laden had inside Pakistan, leaving that open to the imagination. There’s no shortage of options, from the military to the ISI intelligence service. We don’t know who was playing the double game but the suspicions are obvious.
But it also doesn’t make sense, given the facts that we know, that Pakistan was similarly in the dark about the US mission. This very smart essay from a former DIA analyst explains:
Secondly, his compound could not have been attacked from Afghanistan, him killed and his body taken by US Navy SEALs flying US helicopters so close to Islamabad without official Pakistani government cooperation. The US insisted Pakistan played no part in the operation and that the team flew from Afghanistan. That clearly is a cover story for Pakistani public consumption to try to avert overwhelming anti-Pakistan and anti-US demonstrations, which are probably inevitable in any event.
Abottabad is not some remote village on the border. It is a large town in eastern Pakistan, on the main road to Kargil and the north as well as to Muzaffarabad and Pakistani Kashmir to the east. It is northeast – towards India – of Islamabad and within the Pakistan air defense intercept zone for the national capital which is protected by the Pakistani integrated air defense system. Nothing can fly in that region without detection and without permission from the Pakistan Air Force, even from Afghanistan.
The conclusion here is that some kind of deal was made. Either the US found out about bin Laden’s location and Pakistani complicity and forced the government to allow a raid, or Pakistan came to the US and gave up bin Laden for something undisclosed in exchanged. Given what we know about the al-Libi intelligence, I think it’s probably the former. But that doesn’t mean that Pakistan didn’t drive a bargain. It’s impossible to know whether Raymond Davis, or control over drone attacks, was part of the deal. That won’t be clear for some time.
Brennan certainly stuck with the cover story that Pakistan is an able partner in counter-terrorism efforts, if a complicated and conflicted one. And there’s a spillover effect if they get too out in front and accusatory of Pakistan, that the country’s political leadership could fall. But I think everyone can conclude that this is a cover story, meant to obscure the very difficult deal that was reached between the two countries.
The other nugget of information from Brennan was that Osama bin Laden himself used his wife as a human shield during the mission. That’s a pretty humiliating way to go out, and I think it lends credence to the fact that there was no way he would willingly leave that compound alive.
…The power went out in Abbottabad two hours before the raid, and returned 15 minutes after. This mission clearly had Pakistani foreknowledge.




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I’m guessing that the Pakistanis OKed the raid, but only on the condition that bin Laden be killed on the spot rather than taken in for questioning.
The reason? Bin Laden would have had lots to say about his Pakistani hosts, had he lived to stand trial (and he was adamant that he would never be taken alive).
Here we go.
OK, now’s a good time to bring our troops in Pakistan out of the shadows and get this thing going.
Bad, bad, Pakistan!
Perfect timing for the troops in Iraq to scoot on over to Pakistan for some Paki ass kicking, door bustin’, shock and awe.
We’re the USA.
All war, all the time.
The more we dig, the more interesting it gets. Phoenix Woman’s point about silencing OBL is apt, it is why Saddam Hussein was hastily executed before his trial defense was complete, since he would name names and actions (like Rummy and Darth and maybe even W). This way any knowledge gained is buried.
Someone turned OBL in, and since it needed government intervention for flying and power ops, maybe the current government had enough. What will be interesting is what happens next, will Musharraf or AQ Khan be offered up as well?
I don’t see overt US troop involvement, there is nothing to gain from it unless there is a thorough cleansing of the jihadi elements in the army and the ISI. We don’t know who is on what side in those orgs for certain, and collateral damage and mistakes will doom the project. There is also the matter of what India will do or whether they take advantage, such as in the Kashmir. They are sworn enemies to the Pakistanis, with lots of blood on both sides to prove it. Even the perception that India might be given a green light by the USA would be something that dooms the intervention
“forced the government to allow a raid,” ; “Allow us to conduct this raid or we will bomb the complex and take out what/whoever tries to stop us”.
And how does this story differ from what we did in Yemen where Saleh said it was his forces when in reality it was u.s. forces?
what if they had one of these to ride in….. Boeing/Sikorsky RAH-66 Comanche stealth helicopter?
“The RAH-66 is powered by two LHTEC T800 turboshaft engines. The RAH-66′s fuselage is 43 feet (13 m) long and is made of composite material. It incorporated stealth features to avoid detection, such as retractable weapon stations and main gun, and stealth faceting and radar absorbent materials. The Comanche’s noise signature is noticeably smaller than others in its class.”
more stealth helicopter info, if anyone is interested:
fas:
he Comanche incorporates more low-observable stealth features than any aircraft in Army history. The Comanche radar cross-section (RCS) is less than that of a Hellfire missile.
The all-composite fuselage sides are flat and canted and rounded surfaces are avoided by use of faceted turret and engine covers. The Comanche’s head-on RCS is 360 times smaller than the AH-64 Apache, 250 times less than the smaller OH-58D Kiowa Warrior, and 32 times smaller than the OH-58D’s mast-mounted sight. This means the Comanche will be able to approach five times closer to an enemy radar than an Apache, or four times closer than an OH-58D, without being detected.
Noise suppression. The Comanche only radiates one-half the rotor noise of current helicopters. Noise is reduced by use of a five-bladed rotor, The advanced rotor design permits operation at low speed, allowing the Comanche to sneak 40% closer to a target than an Apache, without being detected by an acoustical system.
Infrared (IR) suppression. The Comanche only radiates 25% of the engine heat of current helicopters, a critical survivability design concern in a low-flying tactical scout helicopter. The Comanche is the first helicopter in which the infrared (IR) suppression system is integrated into the airframe. This innovative Sikorsky design feature provides IR suppressors that are built into the tail-boom, providing ample length for complete and efficient mixing of engine exhaust and cooling air flowing through inlets above the tail. The mixed exhaust is discharged through slots built into an inverted shelf on the sides of the tail-boom. The gases are cooled so thoroughly that a heat-seeking missile cannot find and lock-on to the Comanche.
Interesting. I hadn’t thought about helicopters in any detail since those damned Hueys. This current war* era, for me, is characterized by drones. Gawd, they’re awful!
*I realize, of course, that we aren’t truly at war; we’re waging authorized use of military force.
This makes sense to me.
Of course someone in the Pakistani government knew about and was complicit in the raid. There is no way that a U.S. President would risk sending in American troops into a foreign government, especially one as powerful as Pakistan unless he or she knew in advance that they would be safe. Think about it, not one single Seal was injured or killed and a big target like UBL only had his son and two couriers, NO OTHER BODYGUARDS in this huge compound. Something smells fishy. There is also this issue of foreign aircraft operating within 60 miles of the capital and within 500 meters of our version of West Point and no military or police response for over 40 minutes. I don’t know what really went down in this operation but I can tell you that it did not happen the way the government is stating that it happened.
Oh goody! More war!
It’s perfectly plausible that the US evaded Pakistani air defense systems.
The Pakistani’s are not exactly giving a coherent story of what happened.
Even @reallyvirtual said the power goes regularly there, so that may not be related.
Bottom line I just don’t think the US would trust anyone in the Pakistan government with advance information.
Especially after that CIA guy was nearly beheaded for the murder of the two Paki police officers.
The smell was there as soon as I heard about it this morning
Can you please provide a link for this data? Thanks.
Think about it, not one single Seal was injured or killed and a big target like UBL only had his son and two couriers, NO OTHER BODYGUARDS in this huge compound.
Maybe that’s all the protection he rated these days….
Sounds like a good guess.Plausible/
I agree. He would want to keep as small a circle as possible. Having a huge army of bodyguards would not save him if the the US found out about him.
Translated into serviceable English: “The transition plan sets July 2011 as the beginning of the withdrawal and 2014 as the end of this” … “Bin Laden’s death reinforces the exit strategy from Afghanistan” (ElPais.Com, by Georgina Higueras, Apr. 5, 2011)
Imagine Hitler building a bunker complex outside Versailles, near the French Legionnaires’ training HQ, that was vastly larger than anything else in the neighborhood and with four-foot thick walls, in 1943, in occupied Vichy France. Further, imagine the USA discovered Hitler and Eva Broun safely ensconced there in 1947. Finally, imagine the newly Free French permitting a US raid on the compound.
Wouldn’t you expect that the subsequent fable of the raid would be that Adolph held Eva in front of himself as the bullets tore them both apart? And that that fable, in and of itself, would be the price the Free French extracted to protect their own Vichy brothers and sisters from retaliation for having protected Hitler from exposure for two long years?
Dead men tell no tales.
But “In 2004, the
US Army cancelled the RAH-66 Comanche helicopter programme.” And the aircraft *was* designed to hold a crew of only 2. Sorry, but I’m having trouble picturing the very interesting scenario you suggest.
I think it’s also inconceivable that OBL was buried at sea within hours of the raid with no post mortem.
We have been told for years that this is a man who allegedly had kidney disease that kept him tethered to a dialysis machine and his second-in-command, physician Ayman al-Zawahiri, but we’re to believe that the inside of his mouth was swabbed for a DNA sample and his body was photographed before being sipped into a shroud aboard an aircraft carrier and dumped at sea.
Why wasn’t his body flown to Landstuhl for a post-mortem examination with samples taken from every organ? If for no other reason than to be able to evaluate past intelligence and make improvements for future gathering and analysis, this would have been done.
Well, maybe but while you cannot trust too many maybe there are a few trusted people who would ensure their aircraft and defense systems were held back. That could mean there will be retribution inside Pak. in the weeks to come. dont know but it is an interesting story. Could go either way.
Plus other sources said they were apache helicopters.
I still wouldn’t rule out that Pakistani air warning systems were somehow evaded.
As Christopher Hitchins remarks today, who did not know Pakistan was aiding OBL?
The question is why is Brennan saying this publicly today. What change in US policy – not knowledge – does this reflect? Is it an outcome, for example, of the Raymond Davis affair?
sure, here are a few:
http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/uswpns/air/attack/rah66.html
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/comanche/
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/rah-66.htm
There’s also a little bit at wikipedia about it.
I would be amazed given what is known about the pakistan army, their intelligence service, the links to taliban, and so on, if any Pakistani agency was notified in any way about this operation. That would be astounding. stupid beyond belief.
Even a terrorist like UBL has a few bodyguards around him at all times. It is more likely that he thought he was being protected by the PAK ISI and or government and someone sold him down the river like the guy did to Saddam Hussein. 25 million is a lot of persuasion.
Dick Cheney + NORAD = 9/11. Res ipsa loquitor. . .
Are you freaking kidding me? You actually believe that US armed forces can’t employ stealth technology helicopters, radio and radar jamming,…the full technological resources of the most technologically advanced military on earth to put a small group of SEALS into PAKISTAN???
Jeebus, what do you think the Pentagon does with all that money we send ‘em?
And don’t you think that the CIA could be troubled to cutt the electrical power of a small PAKISTANI “city” for a couple hours? They’ve been planning this operation for months.
One thing they most certainly did not do is ask Pakistan – AKA the most untrustworthy and corrupt US ally in the world – for help, permission, or anything else in this matter. Our forces acted unilaterally, efficiently, and quickly.
Be assured there were AWACS planes above the choppers jamming everything not ours, plus drones, and dozens of stealth fighters in the area in case the ground forces needed any serious backup what-so-ever.
IN the end I don’t think we have enough to know what really happened or if and who helped us. Couple of theories on this thread that are plausible. So I will hold judgement. Whatever way it goes, I do not trust the Pak a whole bunch. A little trust here is all it’s worth.
I guess what I am trying to say is, who knows what technology these units have at their disposal.
Exactly, it’s enough to keep a person awake at night! (;>
My money is on Pakistani President Zardari, he is the only one in the Pakistani government who really benefits from this raid. Think about it, he is a weak president and now that the ISI and the military have been severely embarrassed by the revelation that UBL was so close to a military facility and the ISI didn’t know it, he can probably get away with replacing some personnel and putting his own people in their place. Thereby consolidating power and pleasing the Obama administration in the process. A lot of people don’t know but our government and the British were instrumental in getting Zardari elected and we also allowed him to keep all that money he stole from Pakistan years ago.
Delegitimizing one’s enemy – especially his valor – is essential to good propaganda. We would have made the same claims about Ho Chi Minh (the North Vietnamese leader whom we never captured) or Che Guevara (if we’d copped to that assassination at the time). Any claims made about how this went down will need considerable support for them to be deemed credible. That was obvious to everyone, which makes the immediate “burial at sea” so odd an action.
The US’s persistent conduct over the last decade – eg, claims about WMD’s; that Gitmo holds the worst of the worst; that we’re not in it for the oil, for payback or to establish US hegemony – has simply lost it the right to be taken at its word.
Spengler at Asia Times figures the Saudis ‘encouraged’ the ISI to help finger him in another proxy fight between Riyadh and Tehran.
Interesting take.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/ME03Df02.html
I totally agree with your assessment about the unique capabilities of our government, however that doesn’t take away from the fact that people heard helicopters and there was a firefight. Our troops were on the ground for 40 minutes and there was no response from the police or the military until they were moving. I am sorry but somebody was involved in the Pakistani government
Pakistani leadership only benefits if they were a party to the raid, which according to Brennan they weren’t.
Among the Pakistani people America is unpopular, bin Laden is unpopular, but covert US action inside Pakistani territory is the most unpopular of all.
And unlike Ocean’s 11, the CIA wouldn’t have needed a “pinch” or the equipment used to dig the Chunnel to do it. This sort of action would have employed all the toys, bells and whistles we could muster.
Given the notoriety of OBL’s residential compound, it does seem likely that we did this without Pakistani cooperation, given that major elements in its military and intel establishments would have supported him.
Guess I owe you a drink EOH… That’s exactly what went though my mind. It seems a likely story that Davis had some involvement in this action. And did the Pakistani’s know? I’m sure that they did.
On another thread, someone commented that it’s “interesting” how we’ve been flooded with a deluge of info this time around, even though the body is not conveniently in evidence (nor will it ever be).
I go along with the notion that ObL is almost surely dead, but whether he died in this raid or sometime earlier is questionable. However, that’s not really the point. In the case of this new little floodlet of info, I again wonder what it is that the MOTU are planning now.
Sure isn’t going to be the roll-back of the Patriot Act, stopping toture or getting rid of TSA, however. Nor are the Warz likely to cease all that soon, albeit we *may* see a draw-down (or whatever it’s called) in Afganistan. Since Pakistan has been so secretive, who knows what will happen there…
And so: on it goes….
Lieberman is demanding that the Pakistanis prove a negative, which is of course impossible:
Quote from your interesting link to the Asia Times. Quite possibly an imp piece of the puzzle. Thanks for that!
LIEberman blowing smoke, per usual. Talk about a Media Whore with no redeeming value…
Bandwagon-Lieberman-Jump. No magic there. He’s such a putz.
History writes that WWII brought us out of the Great Depression. I doubt that a Paki fourth simultaneous war by Bush-Obama will get us out of the
Bush-Obama depression/deficit/oil and food inflation period of our current history. Why have these BS wars not improved our economy as the one did in the 40s? Why has there not been one strong call by anyone in the fed gov’t for accountability/financial oversight for the military and nation building and/or nation wrecking abroad? All the BS has been about unconclusive or wrongly placed revenge. Obama is a big hybrid nothing. His promise to protect and defend The Constitution has not been kept, and his Peace Prize war antics abroad are very sad and meaningless since no nation has attacked the US recently.
Thank you.
It’s an obvious issue to pursue in deconstructing why we executed this event now and in this manner, is all I’m saying. Davis did not need to be directly involved with the OBL action. His arrest alone worsened our relations with some key players in Pakistan, which would have multiple impacts on all our ops there, including this obviously elaborate, well-planned and executed one.
I liked Chuck Todd’s slip-up from the White House last night: “OBL has been captured and killed.” He later changed it to the even more nonsensical “OBL has been killed then captured,” probably after someone offscreen said, “pssst, NBC, no war crimes allegation, please.”
We will never, ever, ever know what happened. Never ever.
It’s a quaint concept that Pakistan is a partner to the U.S. in its War on Terror and can be ordered around and depended on like the UK, but it’s not true.
Pakistan naturally has its own security interests to look after and they don’t coincide with U.S. security interests. Pakistan is not an ally of India, for one thing. They are mortal enemies, and the fact that the U.S. has injected India interests into Afghanistan is not pleasing to Pakistan.
Obama must certainly be pleased that not a word will be heard today about the botched assassination attempt on Gaddafi that took out his grandchildren.
This is a quote from MSNBC (Backlash possible in Pakistan
Just how much the Pakistani military knew of the raid on bin Laden’s mansion hideout is not clear.
For one thing, analysts say, it would have been difficult for the U.S. Special Forces to act without some logistical military assistance on the ground.
It is also possible that Pakistan allowed the operation to go ahead as part of a deal with Washington on its stake in the endgame in Afghanistan, where U.S. troops are due to start withdrawing in July after nearly 10 years of war.
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..But the government and security agencies had one strong reason for staying silent and letting Washington take the credit for the raid: fear of a public backlash for working so closely with the United States to nab a man who has in the past been popular in Pakistan.)
RGJoe also wants you to celebrate Mothers Day by casting a suspicious eye on your relatives, who may have been radicalized by yesterday’s event/announcement: http://my.firedoglake.com/teddysanfran/2011/05/02/happy-mothers-day-week-from-joe-lieberman/
And the fact that all the Citibank ATMs in lower Manhattan were out of order before the first plane hit the first tower on 9/11 points towards whose complicity in the attacks of that morning?
The claim that OBL used his wife as a human shield is not necessarily true.
Part of the US goal is to discredit him. (It reminds me of the fabricated claim that Gov. Spitzer kept his socks on when he was with the prostitutes.)
The only thing we know for sure is that the US said that it killed OBL on 5/1/11.
Why do they still hate us when we’ve made so much progress at no longer being rich or free?
Do you have a link for that?
Real estate seems to be through the roof over there. The “mansion” doesn’t look much like a one million $ plus “mansion”…that Wolf keeps referring to. Looks more like a rundown cement building with barbed wire around it from the video. Also, it doesn’t look at all like it is in a populated area from the footage.
All we really know is that they told us it is so.. (to paraphrase TP)
Maybe somebody can help me out. I sincerely don’t believe our military recently killed bin Laden. This is because I’ve seen no evidence that he was killed; his captured body was allegedly (and quickly) disposed of, making it impossible to verify our military’s claims. Am I a crazy person because I’m not buying the official story? I’m not a birther. I’m not a 9/11 Truther. But I’m stunned at how EVERYONE reflexively assumes our military is telling the truth. Nobody is asking for the hard evidence. Why not???? Rermember WMD and the Jessica Lynch “rescue” and the Pat Tillman “heroic” death? Am I crazy?? Serious question.
I’m with you on this.
You are not crazy. You are thinking rationally.
I’d claim he likely also had much to say about the Bush Regime, and US foreign policy in general . . . n the US MIlitary/Business relationship with House Of Saud over the past 50 years.
Spengler and Escobar are incredible, love their works.
That site has some GREAT writers . . . some whom double up at Raimondo’s place, too.
I’ll got get that read now, thanks.
What a great read, loved it.
Yep, Riyadh v. Tehran . . . and the US?
Caught in the middle, likely uncertain, with less influence in the region (ME) than ever before. All the while chest thumping THEY got OBL . . . masking and ignoring it was likely a gift with a price to be paid to Pakistan.
These regional hotbeds in the ME and Af/Pak are getting warmer all the time . . . the potential for the big guns (US/Russia/China) to get drawn in too close to the fuse point is huge.
I sure hope our intel community has SOME idea of what’s going down so we don’t start or get sucked into regional war that’s looming closer n closer in the ME.
Thanks again for the heads up, a must read IMHO.
I agree. OBL had 10 years to think about what he would do if caught. I’d be very surprised if he’d make an impulsive move like using his wife as a human shield. That’s just US propaganda. Show us the tape.
I don’t buy it. The Pakistani government is divided and leaky as a sieve. There’s no way the US could have informed the Pakistani’s (other than at the point the operation was underway)without Bin Laden getting wind of it. This was a unilateral action. But the US must have given something in advance, without saying what it was they wanted back in return.
David, been reading your and others work from past 24 hours or so.
Given the fog of psy ops that surrounds of all of this you have hammered away at solid, relevant big and small picture aspects of it all, in what’s fleshing out (this early in the game) to be remarkably concise and accurate observations of it all.
Thanks.
You’ve hinted at it, and Spengler, As Wendydavis@33 Offers digs a bit deeper at it.
Osama bin Laden was likely inconsequential at this point, if he was ever still alive.
If alive, someone gave him up, if we didn’t know he was there. Just a footnote in history, and maybe a thorn to Riyadh . . . as House of Saud is gonna need Pakistani help while Iran continues to wind up the Shia/Sunni proxy wars in the ME.
Yep, Osama bin Laden was likely inconsequential, n the American people will likely never know they been played all along by a ghost created by our own Intel/MIC Oligarchy.
Nothing will change now that he’s dead, our foreign policy will have to create a new ghostly legend to hate.
But Americans will chest thump n be deluded we’re still #1, n the good guys killed the bad guy.
I agree that it’s probably a cover story. I thought so last night when I watched Lara Logan and others trying so hard to push the “Pakistan didn’t know anything about it” narrative. Yeah, right.
I think it’s funny how the Brennan quote about Osama bin Laden below could easily describe himself and other warmongers in the ruling class and the MSM.
I think his statement was cowboy propaganda but then we will never know for sure what happened. I know I don’t trust anything John (I love torture)Brennan says.
I assume that the Seals had orders to kill everyone. Dead men (or women) tell no lies (or truths). She was murdered, just like her husband.
Speaking of who gave him up. There was a lot of money on his head for any Judas ready to take the risk. Wonder who it was.
I have been to Abottabad, PK. It is news there if the electricity stays on at all. I would bet that the compound where Osama was holed up had its own generators.
He didn’t do that. Chuck Todd said tonight that she was caught in a cross fire, not that she was a shield. Also, OBL was unarmed.
Reply to Watson @ 51
I would add thet there is a picture of blood on a carpet. Who knows where that carpet may be is anyones guess.
And there was a compound destroyed somewhere. Who knows where that compound may be is also anyones guess.
Abottabad is not a “suburb of the capital.” It’s in the foothills of the Himalaya. You drive through open farmland with fields of corn and sorghum for about 45 minutes before you start up into the foothills. Abottabad is on the far side of the first ridge of the foothills. I have been there. It’s a pretty fundamentalist place. The people wear traditional dress and the very few women you see all are wearing the veil. It was in the center of the massive earthquake of 2005. It would not be possible for a million dollar mansion to be built there and have the government not know about it or who was there. There is no doubt in my mind that the Pakistani government MUST have known Bin Laden was there if the details of this story are true.
Reply to mattcarmody @50
Whose complicity??
Some kind of deal was made. Biden made an urgent trip to Pakistan in January, reportedly loaded with money. Must have been pretty big if they felt State could not handle it.
Reply to heavyrunner @ 67
I live in the Sierra foothills in a very modest house and I have a generator for back-up power as the electricity goes out every time the wind blows, so surely ObL had one/several
I think the shit has hit the fan between the US and Pakistan.
The Davis thing and all the drone attacks has caused intense anger.
There’s also a lot we’re not being told.
Allegedly killing Osama is the perfect ruse for Obama to bomb the crap out of Pakistan. What better way to rally the war loving haters in America than to say Pakistan’s military has been shielding Osama Bin Laden for years. Horrors, they lied to us! Now we must kill them.
I agree with Hitchens and more. I think both Pakistan and the US knew where Osama’s been all along. Furthermore, in a Wikileaks dump released a few months ago, documents showed Bush knew the exact location of Bin Laden as far back as 2005. HRC even acknowledged they knew where he was. The true picture of what was and is going on here will never be known to us.
I do know this entire story stinks. Did they kill Osama or make the entire thing up? I haven’t seen any evidence. I know they lie to us about everything so there’s no reason to think this time is any different.
Again, I think you need to consider that this happened in the middle of the night, in small town, in a third world country. It’s not like rural Pakistan has a great first responder system like the USA, and it’s entirely likely that their cops didn’t know where to go even if there were any on duty within miles of this compound. Can you locate the location of an explosion the dark – by ear?
And remember – the CIA cut the power two hours earlier. So no lights and probably no phone service as all cell phone antennae were also certainly cut.
If a policeman had managed to find the place, first he would have been stopped by the 12 foot walls. If he had the stupidity to climb over, he would have been shot by the Special Ops guys on the roof who would have been there for that purpose.
Do you think our guys didn’t have the forethought to bring a couple of snipers with night vision goggles and scopes? This is called securing the perimeter.
And do you really think we would have risked the success of the mission by telling the local corrupt police Captain what was going on?
What is your point? The SEALS would have been afraid of a generator or something?
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Right, but it’s totally plausible that the power outage was unrelated. Twitterguy @reallytvirtual said as much: that the power was typically out six hours every day. A large house would have a generator.
The team was in and out in 40 minutes which is not a lot of time to mount a police response, especially if you’re trying to contact higher-ups to find out if this was an approved military operation.