Never a dull moment, given the factionalism rife in the country. I noted that there were no unified opinions in terms of what to do about OBL. So, the fix was indeed in as discussed before.

Who’s next on the wish list? Zawahiri is somewhere that needs a courier, whether in Pakistan or elsewhere. But, for me, I would consider it a true change of heart for the Pakistanis if the USA were allowed to freely debrief AQ Kahn about proliferation or the rest of the Bin Laden compound people.

The GWOT – coming to a Kabuki theater near you.

Sad how evidence that governments constantly lie is used by the hopeful as proof the official statements that haven’t yet been shown to be lies must be true.

It’s battered wife syndrome, with the government as violent abuser and the believers as the self-abusive enablers.

In one of the news reports, I heard that the power in Abbotabad had been cut off from 2 hours before the raid to an hour after the raid. Has this been confirmed, because if true, then the Pakistanis were complicit on some scale, at least.

Well, who knew the Bush administration could do diplomatic nuance? At least, if this agreement existed, it’s possible to argue the bin Laden raid was actually legal under the September 2001 AUMF.

Someone didn’t like part of whatever “deal” there was, or they would not have exposed the name of the CIA chief. That’s a fairly high level warning that says, “we know who you are and we can expose you, forcing you to either get out or risk being killed.”

So someone in the chain is sending a message that the next time you try something like this, without telling us, you will pay a price.

But who is the message directed against? The US? Or those within Pakistan who were complicit in the deal. And who is making the threat? Possibly the guy who has to answer the question: why didn’t Pakistani forces scramble to intercept? Why didn’t you know?

Wasn’t this deal struck with Musharraf’s military, illegitimate government? Why should it still have force now?

Because American puppet Zardari was in on it.

Please stop lending credence to this psy-op. Wikileaks is not your friend; it is just a limited hang-out leak operation because the alternative media has kicked traditional media’s butt so many times, the CIA had to find another way to get disinformation out in the meme stream.

Every time another blog diary is written about this bin Laden fairytale, we make it that much easier for Obama to get away with throwing boogeymen of al CIAda retaliation in our faces and prepping us for another false flag like OKC or 9/11.

And what comes after that? WW III. Right before the hyperinflation hits in the fall and Palestine pushes for statehood vote in the U.N. which has Israel’s panties in a knot.

The former Tim Osman died in late 2001. Please open your mind and read a little bit outside of your usual Washington D.C. media sources.

We’ll protest in the National Assembly and then ignore it.

Not the sort of government duplicity limited to Pakistan.

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They’ve had rolling blackouts since the IMF recommended privatizing the energy companies.
They did secure the area.

Someone in the intelligence services thought that a good retaliation for the bin Laden mission would be to leak the name of the CIA station chief in Islamabad. That suggests at least some level of commiseration between bin Laden and elements in the Pakistani intelligence.

I think you’re drawing conclusions here that sound like pigeon holing.
That they released the name of the Station chief could also be anger over violation of the sovereignty of the country. The US doesn’t usually carry out missions in this village.
There are protests happening now @ReallyVirtual says they are about about the American intervention in Pakistan, drone attacks and Dr. Afia. http://bit.ly/k2QJye

As we know secret agreements aren’t secret if they get passed down through the ranks.

Stop with the stupid. Heres the site for Mujahideen in the Caucus: Dagestan and Chechnya. Of course we’d be calling them AQ if Georgia wasn’t supplying them. http://www.kavkaz.org.uk/eng/ They are Wahabbi Salafists that hate Sufis. That could almost qualify.

Someone in the intelligence services thought that a good retaliation for the bin Laden mission would be to leak the name of the CIA station chief in Islamabad. That suggests at least some level of commiseration between bin Laden and elements in the Pakistani intelligence.

Not really. It suggests that someone in the ISI was pissed at us. That he was pissed at us because he was connected to Bin Laden is just guessing. Might just as well have been pissed because of the violation of sovereignity or the public shaming for not getting ObL themselves.

At the same time, you have Prime Minister Yousef Gilani, while denying that anyone in Pakistan knew about bin Laden and provided support for him, authorizing an investigation into whether… the army or the intelligence service know about bin Laden and provided support for him.

Well, he cannot possible know everything about everyone in Paki government service, no? And it’s conceivable that there were elements somewhere that did know ObL, the cat is out of the bag so it has to be investigated.

The deal was struck between the military leader General Pervez Musharraf and President George Bush after Bin Laden escaped US forces in the mountains of Tora Bora in late 2001, according to serving and retired Pakistani and US officials.

Sounds plausible, but if true was the deal still active? Musharaf was a military dictator, and now there’s a civilian government. But still, might very well be true. Pakistani government has to deny, because domestic opinion might be outraged otherwise….

Note though that Bush era officials have every incentive to lie anonymously about a non existing deal to avoid criticism of passivity as a cause for them not being able to get Bin Laden, and take away some of Obamas glory…. The Paki military and ISI are under fierce critique right now for being clueless in not getting ObL and weak in not being protecting their territory. A deniable, unofficial story about being wise on what went down all along could be of value to them as well. Everyone has an agenda.

I shouldn’t have to add that this is exactly what’s happening. This doesn’t mean Pakistan was informed of any assault; but it means that the reaction was rehearsed and planned years ago.

Errr no it doesn’t. The Guardian story comes after the U.S. and Paki reactions had already happened. It can just as well be a case of people spinning a yarn that conforms to events that was well known at the time. Doesnt mean that it isn’t true, but nothing is proven. Shape up.

By the way this is backed up by a Wikileaks cable, quoting that same Prime Minister Gilani as saying, “I don’t care if they do it, as long as they get the right people. We’ll protest in the National Assembly and then ignore it.”

Now you’re trying to pull the woll over our eyes. That quote is refering to predator drone strikes, not a u.s. ground force on pakistani territory. The association to Osama Bin Laden is invented by you, and not present in the cable. Here is british Channel 4 reporting:

The use of Predators against targets in the tribal areas is also the subject of a leaked memo describing a 2008 meeting between Ambassador Patterson and Premier Gilani, in which he is apparently dismissive of concerns about the drones’ effects. “I don’t care if they do it as long as they get the right people. We’ll protest in the National Assembly and then ignore it,” he is quoted as saying.

http://www.channel4.com/news/can-cia-drone-attacks-on-pakistan-succeed

So there are two cases of blindness here. One is that there’s anything new about the idea that some Pakistani elements has been harboring terrorists and aiding the Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan.

This has in fact been publicly known for a long time. The “blindness” you’re talking about is possibly lack of reporting on U.S. prime time network news. But it has been widely reported in e.g. NYTimes, WPost et al for years. ISI sponsor some taliban and terrorist factions as a resource in the power balance against India.

The other is that some Pakistani elements are somehow shocked about the raid itself.

Here it’s only warranted to suspect that maybe they knew, and maybe they feigned shock, nothing is confirmed. We don’t know. Could very well be that the official reaction is authentic as well.

To summarize: some interesting tidbits, but the totality is full Glenn Beck level conspiracy peddling. Sloppy and inaccurate.