Whatever shallow hopes remaining that the 50-state Attorney General investigation into foreclosure fraud would yield anything meaningful has been dashed by this leak of the latest settlement terms, which eliminate mandated principal reductions as a penalty.
After months of stalemate, the state attorneys general have proposed new terms to the top five mortgage servicers that drop some controversial provisions of their first attempt at a settlement, including a push to force banks to reduce principal on thousands of mortgages.
The new offer, which was expected to be discussed at a meeting between the two sides on Tuesday, moves them closer to a final agreement, but does not detail how much state AGs are seeking in penalties for servicing issues uncovered by federal and state regulators.
Banks have privately said that they will not agree to a fine above $10 billion — far below a discredited $20 billion figure floated in the press two months ago — arguing that regulators have not provided evidence that servicing problems led to wrongful foreclosures.
The AGs are considering using whatever money they receive from banks to start a “cash for keys” program to help troubled borrowers move out of their homes and speed the foreclosure process by providing them cash incentives to leave. The funds are also expected to be used to promote mortgage counseling and offer some forebearance to troubled homeowners.
Just to define terms, forbearance essentially delays the foreclosure process by holding back payments. The borrower may not have to pay the mortgage for a couple months, but that money doesn’t go away, it just gets tacked on to unpaid principal balance. In the end, the servicer makes MORE money off a forbearance, because they are paid according to a percentage of the principal balance.
Principal reductions may not have been a total panacea to the foreclosure crisis, especially if they were spread out over 3 million borrowers with $30 billion in funds. But principal mods are consistently more durable than any other kind of loan modification. And when choosing between principal mods and basically nothing, which is what the term sheet looks like now (cash for keys??), obviously the former is preferable.
There are other minor aspects added to the term sheet: borrowers rejected for a permanent mod in HAMP would get to reapply (even though many have lost their homes in the process), expansions of the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act, disclosure to borrowers of their options prior to foreclosure and a new guarantee on documentation on the mortgage transfer and the note (basically an assurance that the securitization was legal). But if the banks were able to knock out principal reductions so easily, it’s hard to hold out hope that anything meaningful will stay in this settlement, either.
That last one, assurances on the accurate transfer and endorsement, may not add up to everything advertised, notes Yves Smith:
The servicers are not going to want to assume responsibility for certifying events beyond their control. It was the originators and the trustees that were responsible for making sure that the securitization was done properly, and the liability for the failure to form the securitization probably rests most heavily on the trustee, who provided multiple certifications that they got all the assets (forgive my being approximate in my use of legal terminology, but conceptually this is accurate).
This ask sounds troublingly like it is setting the stage for a broad waiver of liability for mortgage abuses, a step we have roundly opposed. No one has any business giving broad waivers when they don’t know what bad conduct they may be forgiving. And the ample evidence of abuses in the improper application of payments and the use of junk and pyramiding fees suggests there are a lot of bad practices the servicers would love to have forgiven before anyone can attach a dollar tag to what they really are worth.
As I’ve said, it’s time to give this investigation a decent Viking funeral. The penalties keep shrinking, while the scope of the potential waiver of liability keeps broadening. The banks don’t seem interested in even this watered-down settlement, unless they clean up all their legal claims in one sweep. And many AGs don’t want to give up all that liability, especially given that there’s been no investigation in this “investigation” about the extent of the abuses.
That’s the reason why there’s not going to be a settlement, by the way. Without the knowledge on both sides of the scope of the abuses, via an investigation of the facts, the AGs are just making a guess. And the banks can bluff their way out of that, secure in the knowledge that the opposition doesn’t have the information to make a credible ask.
Once again, we’re going to have to look elsewhere for justice and accountability in foreclosure fraud.





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“with liberty and justice for all”; people ought to stop pledging allegiance unless they have allegiance to corruption that screws most people.
Huh? So the idea is to increase the supply of vacant houses and thereby depress home values further?
Once people without conscience have accumulated enough money, they can pretty much buy whatever they want because buy off anybody who tries to stop them. I don’t know what can be done short of a physical uprising.
So tell me again why the banks have to agree to a fine? Maybe the next time I get a ticket I’ll go to court and tell them I won’t agree to pay the whole fine but maybe I’d be willing to negotiate it down. Think that’ll fly?
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“Debts must be collected and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong
arm of the law applied by the central power of leading financiers.”
J. P. Morgan (circa 1900)
The banks have no incentive to settle, they are too big to fail, the Fed has their back.
Yep.
sometimes my head just wants to explode.
but then I remember I live in amerika, the beacon of greed and war. and this is actually normal.
what about the millions who have been wrongfully foreclosed on. and yes, it’s millions. every paper a robosigner signed without reading (and they admitted to it), is fraud, perjury, and against the law. it’s an affidavit. a legal document. I can’t go into a courtroom and just sign anything without reading it without consequences. but they can.
what about the billions and billions of fees they tacked on with this scam with the help of HAMP? how many did HAMP help? how many did it actually hurt by allowing the banks to game the “system”? compare the numbers.
so what about all those people? well the state AGs just agreed with the banks and said F the people.
so you destroy millions of lives, their families, their entire financial situation for life, and rob them blind of billions and billions (and really with all the houses and everything it’s probaly in the trillions), and … well nothing. yup this is amerika. better get used to it.
thanks mod. :)
that worked.
“U.S. ‘Underwater’ Homeowners Increase to 28 Percent, Zillow Says” (Bloomberg.Com, by John Gittelsohn, May 9, 2011)
I’m screaming. I know you all can’t hear me, but it is shrill!
None of this above helps correct the criminal acts or even address all of them, from the origination, the pre-approval stages to the very end of a string of mortgage swaps. The homebuyer is being completely trampled on at every turn with no recourse or ability to sue or have due process with the above.
CRIMINALS! No homeowner should agree to any of this and if the bank won’t work with them, then sell the house to the bank without signing any documents aside from the Bill of Sale!
Special Caution! Do not sign anything. They are trying to trap you all over again and your credit is not going to get better.
Neither banks nor services have shown the slightest interest in preventing excess vacancies. They’ve shown even less interest in maintaining homes they have repossessed but not resold, causing severe degradation to homes, neighborhoods and communities. They prefer foreclosures to loan mods because that’s what pays servicers the most, even though it’s the most costly choice for homeowners, banks and the investors who bought their questionnably valued CDO’s.
There is that persistent down-the-rabbit-hole feeling about these discussions, isn’t there?
Unless these borrowers can show that they were fraudulently pushed into the loan, why should anyone forgive their debts? so they didn’t achieve the appreciation they thought they would. Hell, I bought silver stocks near the top of the market recently – maybe someone can get me some of MY losses back as well.
Some of them can prove it. In fact, most of the loans were over priced, tacked on fees that were only to grab cash, and plus they were approved for an amount higher than they should have been on the ground that the brokers would get theirs up front. It’s fact.
Anyone who is in or facing foreclosure just got Butt-Fucked with a barbed-wire dildo and no lube.
Thanks a lot, AG assholes.
I am sure that happened. But if they signed the contracts, that was THEIR bad decision. It’s not fraud. Sorry, but I’m not letting my taxes pay for someone who thought their ARM would never re-price so high that they could not afford the payments. Or for the guy whose HELOC went to pay for exorbitant credit card bills and now puts him underwater.
At last count there are about 27% of mortgage holders underwater, up from 22% in 2009. The folks who track realty values report that about 10 trillion dollars have vanished from the market since the height of the bubble, and prices are still going down, so the 30% devaluation of property values is not the bottom. Not yet. (BTW: Conservatives are freaking out over a 14 trillion dollar debt that can and will be serviced, but no tears over 10 trillion dollars already lost by home owners and investors. Seems odd.)
What caused the unsustainable rise in housing prices? Massive market manipulation brought on by a voracious appetite for high-profit, exotic debt instruments fueled by traders getting rich on commissions while screwing both borrowers and investors.
So why on earth would anyone, liberal or conservative, think that this needed market correction should fall only on the shoulders of the victims of the manipulation, rather than on those who perpetrated it?
The banks shoddy practices, bond raters and failed regulators ran up this bubble at the expense of investors, home owners and ultimately taxpayers, so they should share in the haircut. Principle modifications are the only reasonable way to do this.
Problem is reason has very little to do with greed.
People gambled on housing and people lost. Everyone suffered to some degree. Everyone was in for a profit. Banks, buyers, investors. Everyone got burned. The only ones who didn’t get burned are the ones who sold into the bubble.
Sure, some folks speculated on housing and they deserve their fate. The problem is that most folks buying a house just needed somewhere to live. They didn’t make the market. They didn’t get to set the terms, or the valuations. The banks did that through a long list of questionable practices. (See: Joe Nocera, Michael Lewis, Simon Johnson et.al.)
You say that people “gambled” on housing. The counter-parties to their contracts,the government regulators and the media never alerted these folks that they had just walked into a casino. Like their parents before them, they thought they were buying into the American Dream. Something safe. Something real. Joke’s on them, I guess.
well said, thank you.
banks got burned?
they’re making billions and billions in profits.
they sold securities and then bet against them.
and none of this explains the rampant foreclosure fraud or those tacked on fees amounting to thousands and thousands of dollars.
it’s all a scam. but keep defending the banksters.
if this is capitalism, then I want no part of it. it makes no sense. it’s actually NOT capitalism. it’s fraud. pure and simple.
selling securities and betting against them is NOT capitalism. it’s fraud.
spot on -
follow the money rarely leads one to the wrong conclusion.
The odd thing is that the servicers are often divisions or subs of banks – so they pull in fees – on which bonuses are paid – as assets backing loans deteriorate but those losses are not recognized by FASB accounting.
It is amazingly short term gain for the current management – with the eventual replacement management expected to take the classic “one time loss” to clear the deck for the new CEO’s bonus program.
And the Board does not give a damn (my gentle comments over the years to the Board folks that I occasionally met may well have caused my employment to be split among more than a couple of employers! :-) ). It is tough when you are not either mentored or born into the ruling class.
Everyone got burned….??????
Well sort of – but the banks that lost sent the loses to the taxpayer, while the homeowners were on the street. Not fair except under GOP “free market capitalism”. People at banks that magnified the loan loss by placing bets on losing derivatives just because Greenspan allowed it were retained at million dollar salaries because Obama and crew felt they needed that “talent” to remain in the bank – and they got their billions of bonus via the tax payer again.
Banks like Goldman that made a mint by being on the right side of those derivative bets ran to the gov to complain about the part of their portfolio that was losing bets on derivatives – and they got those loses sent to the tax payer as they kept the winnings on the other trades.
Everyone got burned…… – well sorta – but then – not really.
OK – help the folks underwater but not with your taxes – how about with a fine that recovers the welfare payments made to the banks – such as the trillions made via the zero interest borrowing from the Fed lent back to the Fed at 3% interest so the Fed can claim that the bank bailout was paid back at a profit. A lovely shell game.
Despite having little interest in finance, I started noticing some weird things going on back in 2005-06.
* October 2005 – The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act went into effect. Ostensibly created to curb “bankruptcy fraud,” it made it MUCH harder for average consumers to file for b.k.
* December 2005 – The OCC (Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, a division of the Fed) suddenly declared that the banking industry CAN own and develop real estate. The banks had been fighting hard for this ever since it was disallowed by the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933.
* January 2006 – Due to changes in consumer lending rules by the Fed, the average consumer’s monthly credit card payments suddenly DOUBLED.
* About the same time: Aggressive marketing of “too good to be true” mortgages started really paying off, suckering more and more first-time home buyers into signing loans they can barely (if at all) afford and existing home owners into re-financing with variable rate loans which carry huge but “distant-future” balloon payments.
(And for those who bluster about “if ya borrow money, ya pay it back” ? Many of those loans were conjured into being by some VERY smooth-talking mortgage brokers who collected large fees but were NOT liable for any “errors” on loan applications.)
* About the same time: Warnings of a “housing bubble” and imminent real estate market crash grew louder but even those made by the president of the National Association of Realtors to a Congressional committee in June 2005 were completely ignored.
Hope it’s not too “conspiracy theory” to suggest that the ongoing financial crises eating away at America’s middle class might NOT be an accident.
Why else would the banks let foreclosed properties fall into decline ?
How else could they actually be dictating the penalties for their proven foreclosure fraud ?
As long as we look to others for justice and accountability we’ll never see either.
It’s not a conspiracy – it’s the normal functioning of the system, right out there in the open.
Because laws and penalties exist only as a form of force to keep the lower classes under control. Laws never apply to those who make them. That they might is simply a well-funded marketing fiction that serves to induce the populace to obey.
This is the way the country has always been, since its beginning – the few wealthy landowners run everything, and the rest of humanity is a problem to be tolerated and managed. As Founding Father and first Chief Justice John Jay said “the people who own this country ought to govern it.”
The only thing that is changing now is the rest of us are starting to recognize all this – and, with providence, work together and rise up to change it.
And that some are starting to rise up to change all this is precisely why the oligarchy demands the underclasses’ resources to effect change be destroyed.
It’s all inherent in the word, “government.” If it were about helping humanity, and not simply coercion and control, it would be called “guidance.”
America’s current financial situation is hardly “normal” (at least in my lifetime) nor does it seem capable of “functioning” for much longer.
Rather, it appears to be the intended result of a carefully constructed plan which included illegal means — in other words, a conspiracy.
The sickening number of middle-class Americans being reduced to poverty is a rather significant change.
As for trying to “work together and rise up to change it,” one can only hope that those doing so will carefully investigate and pursue all legal and non-violent methods first.
Whether government or “guidance,” oligarchy or (more accurately) plutocracy, all are preferable to anarchy.
Please refresh my memory as to how many revolutions were achieved through legal and non-violent methods?
As long as people prefer oligarchy and plutocracy to anarchy…then they’ll get their wish.
But then, since oligarchy and plutocracy are their preference, they ought to be happy and grateful.
The obligatory Ben Franklin quote goes here.
thanks so much David, for being such a pitbull on this issue. The corporate media refuses to cover this story, and FDL has become my most trusted source of objective news.
As for the banks and the AG’s go, I am as shocked as claude raines in casablance to see this deal went nowhere. It is unbelievably frustrating to see how utterly corrupt the US has become. At least in a banana republic you know who to bribe because everyone has their hand out.
So, what would you call it if you signed a contract, and you were paying your mortgage and suddenly out of the blue you started noticing a 10 a month fee. The fee said miscellaneous. So you call to ask, and they deny it exists. You say you want to know what it’s for, but they don’t tell, won’t tell you. You start to fall behind each month because you aren’t paying this 10 fee, and frankly you were already behind because you hadn’t paid for the first few months it was there. Now, you are being charged a late fee, every single month because you didn’t pay that 10.00$ fee. Eventually down the road, only after you get the A.G of your state involved you find out that they have been charging 10.00$ to cash your checks electronically. When you got the loan there was no electronic option, but now suddenly they want your checks to go through electronically. Incidently, this means they don’t send the check back to you. They destroy it and put it through your bank charging 10 bucks every time. The A.G asks them for them to put out a payment history of your payments and fees. The a.g asks them, (without court hearing or paperwork) to voluntarily remove the fees. So they do. Then a few months later you notice you have several thousand in miscellaneous fees on your statement. You call, you call the A.G but the a.g is done and won’t intervene this time.
What do you call that? What do you call forced insurance when you have insurance and you have had the insurance company send copy in, you have sent and faxed a copy and they keep charging you for insurance?? Then before you know it they say you are behind in your payment. This isn’t about the contracted principle and interest. This is manipulated and tantamount to stealing. This is what they do to put you behind in your mortgage in subprime loans. Many people did not know what was going on.