Paul Ryan gave his big speech in Chicago today, desperately trying to reset the debate over his flailing plan for Medicare privatization. And he can pretty up the rhetoric as much as he wants, but in the end, it remains a program to get rid of Medicare.
To take the pressure off, Ryan tried to offer a choice between his plan and what he imagined would happen under his adversaries, ignoring actual plans to end corporate welfare payments to insurance companies in Medicare Advantage, bargain down the price of prescription drugs, change the health care delivery system to incentivize whole care rather than individual expensive treatments, expand the pool and reduce costs by allowing Medicate buy-in at 55 or a single payer system, etc.
I call it the “shared scarcity” mentality. The missing ingredient is economic growth.
Shared scarcity represents a deeply pessimistic vision for the future of this country – one in which we all pay more and we all get less. I believe it would leave us with a nation that is less prosperous and less free.
To begin with, chasing ever-higher spending with ever-higher tax rates will decrease the number of makers in society and increase the number of takers. Able-bodied Americans will be discouraged from working and lulled into lives of complacency and dependency.
Worse – when it becomes obvious that taxing the rich doesn’t generate nearly enough revenue to cover Washington’s empty promises – austerity will be the only course left. A debt-fueled economic crisis will force massive tax increases on everyone and indiscriminate cuts on current beneficiaries – without giving them time to prepare or adjust. And, given the expansive growth of government, many of these critical decisions will fall to bureaucrats we didn’t elect.
I don’t know who these politicians are Ryan is talking about, but they sound terrible and Ayn Rand would not approve. The goal was clear – define the opponent before they define you. Ryan’s a little late to the game on that, but he clearly wanted to make anything but his plan to buy insurance sound so gloomy and dystopian that everyone would beg him to end Medicare and give seniors a coupon to buy their own insurance. So it’s an attempt to attack and not defend.
In fact, there’s almost no defense of his plan in here at all. Ryan said that his reforms “save the social safety net” and “strengthen welfare for those who need it” by allowing governors to essentially destroy them and throw millions off the insurance rolls. Solvency is seen as a far more important goal than adequacy.
But when he wasn’t talking about “rules-based monetary policy” or parroting John Boehner on the debt limit or nixing virtually every regulation that passed the last Congress, Ryan was annoyingly vague about his own plan. He merely said this:
Our budget makes no changes for those in or near retirement, and offers future generations a strengthened Medicare program they can count on, with guaranteed coverage options, less help for the wealthy, and more help for the poor and the sick [...]
The disagreement isn’t really about the problem. It’s about the solution to controlling costs in Medicare. And if I could sum up that disagreement in a couple of sentences, I would say this: Our plan is to give seniors the power to deny business to inefficient providers. Their plan is to give government the power to deny care to seniors.
Again, this is a strong coloring of the opponent’s argument, and almost a complete inversion of Ryan’s own. In what universe does Paul Ryan think that an individual senior citizen, needing medicine and treatment as virtually all seniors do and cast off into the individual market to purchase health insurance with a coupon, has LEVERAGE over businesses that provide that service? This isn’t just fantasy libertarianism, it’s contradicted by all known experience in modern-day society as well as health economics. Fracturing the market and diluting the risk pool necessarily increases the cost of health insurance.
Ryan adds some friendly cant about ending corporate welfare and eliminating loopholes that “distort economic incentives,” but that’s of course in service to lowering overall corporate tax rates. Maybe that’s what he’s going to use in his potential Senate run to avoid getting beaten about the head by his budget. But if this speech was supposed to be the reset button for the Medicare privatization plan, I’d say he might as well forget it. Because he didn’t even try.




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How would one defend the indefensible.
Oh Ron Paul knows: Medicare is slavery.
With a real progressive POTUS in the WH, this clown would have been dispatched faster than Trump. And the House headed to a return to D control.
So what.
An argument can be made that we might be better off. (Not a strong argument, I admit.)
There’s a good possibility that he can’t defend it because he doesn’t understand it himself.
That is highly likely to be accurate.
Can’t imagine that Rs unnerstan any of the wordz comin outta their mouthz.
strengthen welfare for those who need it”??????????
Yes – the GOP view and want to sell Medicare and Social Security as welfare – indeed SS is an ideal welfare structure as the wage cap on Social Security protects the rich from paying FIT like rates to fund that bit of welfare. If only they could stop Medicare’s “all wages” approach – say – they can set up vouchers and move folks to insurance, then cap the income taxed under Medicare, and because of the new revenue shortfall, justify decreasing the size of those vouchers.
But never accuse them of being mean spirited. The GOP are saving us from our lazy ways – “Able-bodied Americans will be discouraged from working and lulled into lives of complacency and dependency” unless we do what the GOP wants.
Oh yeah, inadequate vouchers to buy insurance with inadequate coverage and high deductibles will teach those “inefficient providers” alright. This guy is a fucking idiot.
What would that be?
From all my economic analysis, the “slaves” (although I would not use such a loaded word) are the customers, not the docs. The docs take & take & take & take & take from their patients. And give back not very much, at least in the U.S., which has worse health outcomes and much higher costs than any other developed country.
Besides, one of the defining determinants between slaves & masters is power. Could anyone argue that the knowledge gap bet docs & patients gives the former all the power, even before the vulnerability of the patient is even considered.
It’s what blind ideology looks like. You don’t have to understand something to be a believer apparently.
Yeppers. This is the classic.
Yep. TPM reported that line without so much as a whimper. Just call him veal pen Josh.
Ah, yes!
Ryan is in over his pay grade. The poor ass-hole probably doesn’t know it, but he is going to find out fast.
Me: Hello? 911? Who has a special on auto-accidents today? In my case, it was a head-on collision and I am unconscious
911: Hold please while we check.
Me: OK.
[Hmmmm de hmmmm hmmm hmmm]
911: St. Kate’s has a special this week, but your not an atheist or Muslim, right?
Me: [gawp, oxy tube has slipped]
911: Right? RIGHT? Hello, sir?
Me: Atheist people…no…treatment?
911: Not at St. Kate’s sir.
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Market? My ass – and yours.
I keep trying to read that book again, but so much else comes up before I get to it.
Ship of fools in Congress…
My original comment was:
Don’t you agree — given the conditional?
Now you’re smokin’.
My point exactly on Mafia of the Intelligentsia.
And on interpreters in the prior thread.
These peeps who have knowledge power over the rest of us can not only charge us a high price (my agenda in my prior role), but also manipulate us in ways that we barely begin to understand.
Sometimes it is better to just leave the table than stay with a bad hand.
I have to gag at “real progressive POTUS” bc that seems so unrealistic these days.
They’re all in it together & O is hiding behind the likes of Ryan’s water carrying.
So your conditional does not resonate with me.
Ryan’s fifteen minutes of fame are over. He played his part and is no longer needed.
The Wrecking Crew (Obama, Pelosi, Durbin, and Conrad) is what’s happening now.
“Our budget makes no changes for those in or near retirement,…”
The biggest lie of all. When the last passengers are standing on the decks and the sea is filled with the drowning masses, neither will the ship go forward nor shall they leave their children and grandchildren behind. They all go down together.
Hep. I get it. You and I are always going to be a bit opposed on some stuff, not on others.
I have a bit of a crush on you, as much as I want to smack you around on other topics. :) Smooch.
Conditionals are not meant to “resonate.” :-)
But you do have to admit that the intention is to divide & conquer.
CORRECTION: They’re not a wrecking crew at all! They’re actually “reformers” who have come to “save” Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security!
The selling point of a Confuseoploy (read Dilbert cartoons) is that they offer you a great deal right now and don’t mention the future costs.
Ryan failed Public relations, advertising, mastering the upsell just what moron leads with we have to cut benefits?
Then tries to cover himself with we won’t cut your benefits…just your kids benefits.
Never mind the tax break we give to the rich.
In economics and contract theory, information asymmetry.
Smooches to U-2.
I do get my back up over having my motivation questioned.
I consider myself pure as the driven snow. If you don’t believe me, just ask me. *g*
Righto.
And when they “save” it, all the Teabaggers will be yelling “hey, wait a minute, I meant for you to cut Their Medicare, not Mine!” Too late.
LOL! Honest opponents and mutual admirers.
*clink*
I think FDL should rent a string of motel rooms across the country — for bonding.
On edit: Or maybe just meeting rooms.
I’m serious about asking me to ‘splain myself.
I’ve typed a lot of stuff over & over & over again.
I haven’t written it all up in diaries that I can link to bc I don’t know how to do data tables that would provide the evidence that backs up my analysis.
A lot of my serious work was done in the early 90s, before I got an ecopy to keep on my ‘puter. Doesn’t mean that I can’t defend myself in words of one syllable in as many sentences as it requires to be convincing.
I don’t think either plan fits the libertarian ideal, maybe he’s just another lying republican hypocrite.
I get that. (In fact I’m going to need your, and maybe Peg’s help soon to control my US Census data about women and income. I’ll e you separately about that.)
Because at the end of the day, what we never disagree about is data. We disagree about “next” or “possibles.” And that’s totally realistic. In fact, expected, as we have different experiences.
The big thing is go toe-to-toe and not get all freaked out about it.
*shakes fist at eCAHN, then smooches!*
Congress, the White House, and the Supreme Court are already privatized. They’re hopeless resources. The Joint Chiefs are our last, best hope. I don’t want to hear the Chairman sound like Chief Joseph.
How do these assholes live with themselves?
Just looking for a way to maximize their income.
Such BS. It’s just their way of declaring the social contract dead and reneging on their end of the bargain (i.e. to heck with you, I’ve got mine). What they really mean.
Research !! – Love that you are doing some on census data and income.
You probably know of the following stuff that came to mind – but I’ll toss it out just because I remembered it – namely the BLS does a few studies I am seen over the years that might be of interest, and http://www.catalyst.org/publication/217/womens-earnings-and-income and http://www.catalyst.org/image/1612/qt_0411_ei3.jpg is a summary of a gender gap study, and Blau, F. D., & Kahn, J. have been chasing this stuff for a while – last item a 2007 note- “The gender pay gap.” ‘’The Economists’ Voice’’, 4(4), 1–6.
I’m impressed you are going back to the basic data – I used to hate doing real work like this where I had to claim I had isolated the effect of a given cause – indeed the actuaries published a paper (on pension fund liability change/gain from variation from assumptions analysis – the result always depended on the order in which you analyzed the various variables – - mortality affected the size of the group that was affected by the morbidity which affected the size of the fund that built up, etc. – and gain from good investment results depended on how you assigned gain to mortality and morbidity).
Good luck – I look forward to your results.
the problem is a libertarians have managed to convince too many people that the mythical free market actually exists, people are buying into the concept and do not realize their methods of stealing from the labor class