President Obama told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) today that his misinterpreted comment about a peace deal in the Middle East using the 1967 borders as a starting point, with mutually agreed swaps, was an utterly uncontroversial statement reflecting longstanding US policy. Here is the exact statement:
There was nothing particularly original in my proposal; this basic framework for negotiations has long been the basis for discussions among the parties, including previous U.S. administrations. Since questions have been raised, let me repeat what I actually said on Thursday — not what I was reported to have said.
I said that the United States believes that negotiations should result in two states, with permanent Palestinian borders with Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, and permanent Israeli borders with Palestine. The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps — (applause) — so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states. The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.
Now, that is what I said. And it was my reference to the 1967 lines — with mutually agreed swaps — that received the lion’s share of the attention, including just now. And since my position has been misrepresented several times, let me reaffirm what “1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps” means.
By definition, it means that the parties themselves -– Israelis and Palestinians -– will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967. (Applause.) That’s what mutually agreed-upon swaps means. It is a well-known formula to all who have worked on this issue for a generation. It allows the parties themselves to account for the changes that have taken place over the last 44 years. (Applause.) It allows the parties themselves to take account of those changes, including the new demographic realities on the ground, and the needs of both sides. The ultimate goal is two states for two people: Israel as a Jewish state and the homeland for the Jewish people — (applause) — and the State of Palestine as the homeland for the Palestinian people — each state in joined self-determination, mutual recognition, and peace. (Applause.)
If there is a controversy, then, it’s not based in substance. What I did on Thursday was to say publicly what has long been acknowledged privately. I’ve done so because we can’t afford to wait another decade, or another two decades, or another three decades to achieve peace. (Applause.) The world is moving too fast. The world is moving too fast. The extraordinary challenges facing Israel will only grow. Delay will undermine Israel’s security and the peace that the Israeli people deserve.
Overall, the speech had some hawkish tendencies, but this section addressing the controversy was the major point. And I’m sure we could all have envisioned a scenario where Obama responded far more meekly to the criticism, or tried to disavow what he said. But he really didn’t. He addressed the silly controversy head-on. And attached to that, he made a pretty compelling statement about the necessity for such a framework if Israel is to survive as anything but a pariah state. It was a pretty good moment for the President, a view espoused by such otherwise critics as Glenn Greenwald.
I don’t believe Obama is guided in these efforts by any principled concern or moral empathy for the plight of Palestinians or the injustice of the 45-year-old occupation; it seems clear that he isn’t ever driven by considerations of that sort. But what he is, at least compared to the prior President, is a competent technocrat, a more calculating imperial manager, able to rationally assess costs and benefits with a ruthless analytical stoicism. And Obama has been surrounded by top advisers — such as Gen. James Jones and David Petraeus — who clearly recognize, and have publicly said, that the festering Israeli/Palestinian conflict, and the (obviously accurate) perception in the Muslim world that the U.S. enables Israel, is harmful in numerous ways to U.S. interests in the region. Especially with largely anti-Israel Arab public opinion starting to supplant easily manipulated, U.S.-serving Arab tyrants, it is vital — for what the U.S. government perceives to be its interests in the region — that Israel reach a peace agreement, and that in turn requires that the U.S. use its leverage to pressure Israel to do things it plainly does not want to do.
Now, I’m not so naive as to think that this will somehow change the familiar trajectory of Arab-Israeli relations. Benjamin Netanyahu’s misreading of Obama’s words has had the desired effect – it dashed any small hope of renewed peace talks. Congress still operates with a virtually unthinking support of Israel in all matters, and the US will almost certainly stick up for Israel at the United Nations when the Palestinians apply to the General Assembly for statehood, pressuring allies to vote down the request. But I think it’s best to view this 1967 borders flap in isolation. Obama could have taken the easy and familiar way out, and capitulated to those who dishonestly seized upon his words. He chose not to do so. I’m happy for that.
UPDATE: And now, Netanyahu aides are playing down the differences with Obama. They’re the ones backing down.




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Nice to see that the “Arab Spring” is putting pressure on realpolitik calculations, and that we have an otherwise lamentable President who “is a competent technocrat,” as Greenwald characterized him.
I can actually envision some of this pressure modifying Congress, but then again I always give these people too much credit. OK, not always. :)
Given how far to the wingnut Barry has steered on just about everything else, I’ll take this. Yes, I know that’s pathetic.
Standing up to Netanyahu and AIPAC? Is this the real Obama? Why doesn’t he start using this stand up routine to the Republicans?
Um… alignment of interests?
Good one.
I knew that I should not have even asked the question, but it was refreshing to see even a tingling of a spine.
But why is he specifically referring to Israel as a Jewish state? I don’t think even Bush used that formulation. Any room for non-Jews in Israel?
You won’t solve this war until Israel votes out Likud. Not any more complicated than that…
– Balkingpoints / www
Don’t hold your breath…damn, now I gotta try to remember where I read a really good analysis of Obama’s approach, based on his history and upbringing. It was pretty good, balanced, not saying he is “evil” but more a product of that upbringing who came to the job inexperienced and has let himself be overtaken by the status quo.
I hate it when I can’t remember where I read something.
Why the surprise. Backing Israel to the extent the U.S. has has been good politics but bad business for decades. Obama’s action is entirely consistent with his behavior on other issues.
He isn’t spineless. He believes in a flawed model of the international economic system. He doesn’t care about unemployed workers, declining wages or the plight of the poor. Insofar as he is capable of thinking beyond himself, he believes his “savy” buddies will solve these problems as well as they can be solved.
In the middle east he has to balance the impact of AIPAC and international business against each other and try to find the optimal point.
My excuse at my age is called “sometimers” not quite “alltimers.”
Let me reply to your question with a story about an experience I had this morning in Jackson Hole Wyoming.
While scrolling the main street in JH I came across a store which sells tee shirts to the tourists. There were several tee shirts with clearly racist themes on them , levied against blacks and Asians and nearly all the rest of the prints were radically sexist. Disgruntled I walked on and complained to a few store owners in the area.
These individuals told me that they had the same feeling of disgust at what could be seen , prominently displayed, in the store’s window and that numerous locals had complained to them personally as well .
They said I should should tell the people in the store that offended me how I felt, which I did.
The biggest shock was that the owners and all the workers in this store ,were Israeli Jews.Is this the real lesson of the holocaust, that last years victims biggest mistake was in not being racist enough ?
It’s amazing we have made it this far as a species considering our perennial ignorance !
Well, I’m 68, so I’m sure “sometimers” is an issue. But I read so much on the Internet that I often can’t go back and find something when the opportunity arises to reference it in a comment. This is one of those cases. In addition to FDL, I read Steve Benen and Greenwald and follow links to TPM and other places. It was probably one of those other links.
EDIT: It could also have been a column in the NYT.
Oh well, I guess it’s gone.
Good for you to go back into the store and tell them how you felt. I bet it is not the first time they have heard complaints.
I taught H.S. United States History and the Holocaust unit was one that really kept the kids attention.
Having said that, it is really hard at my age (retired now) to see how far this nation has fallen in the things we should treasure the most.
This extremely radical right wing and teabaggers are driving me nuts.
The Palestinians have made any U.S. – Israel differences a mere side show to the main act.
The USA finally — hurrah! — has made itself irrelevant to the Arab world. First Tunisia, then Egypt, and in September:
The Long Overdue Palestinian State
By MAHMOUD ABBAS
Published: May 16, 2011, NYTimes (extract)
And they will get it, along with the endorsement of every Arab country including *gasp* Saudi Arabia, while the U.S. & Israel fuss and fume to no avail.
While I agree with your feelings about the tea baggers and radical right I am also concerned with the fact that democrats give a free pass to the unthinkable when it is being performed by a democratic president and the best defence when pushed to even acknowledge the facts is that it would be even worse if a republican was doing it .
I have a hard time applying that logic to my phone being tapped or a government that asserts the right to arrest me on no charges or assassinate me abroad without judicial oversight , torturing and kidnapping while it invades other sovereign nations for resources sold on false premises and lies, which has killed over a million and refugeed and wounded several times that etc.
http://my.firedoglake.com/freeman/2010/12/17/dancing-with-tyrants-or-why-civil-disobedidience-is-now-the-only-way-forward/
I’m sorry, but what?
We’re supposed to be impressed that Obama stood by what has been US policy for decades? (In fact, when the US started talking about “agreed swaps,” that was a surrender because it legitimized Israeli settlements in the West Bank, which as recently as Bush I we were noting were illegal under international law.)
We’re supposed to be grateful and happy because Obama didn’t “capitulate?”
This is what passes for good news these days?
We are so screwed.
We are the same age and do not worry about trying to locate it.
Couple of kids.
If this is a basic assumption then what is the status of the Arabs in Israel? It seem that the Obama position is a commitment to non-citizenship of Arabs in Israel. Are they to be expelled? Maintained in an apartheid second class citizenship?
Perhaps, msmolly, it was the Bill Moyers Book Salon?
DW
Actually, we’re happy because he made Bibi capitulate, as David’s upate shows.
Heh! Sounds like it.
Yeah, Obama’s not so much ‘evil’ as he is a straight-up Third Wayer in the mold of Bill Clinton, which is why Hillary was able to go seamlessly from a staunch primary foe to being his Secretary of State.
I do think Obama always admired Bubba’s “networking” skills and wants to be just like him …
It is the banality of the third way, that ubiquitous unremarkableness of “feeling” other’s “pain” while W wipes his palms on Bubba’s back as the duo did the glad handing routine with the victims of truly monumental disaster … some of it deliberate, that remains like an after-image of superficial awareness.
And then … there is the issue of killing by drone; one has to really “believe” in the essential “goodness” of something … to engage in that particular managerial endeavor, I should imagine, PW.
DW
Why in God’s name does anyone still pay any attention to what Obama says?
The only thing that matters is what Obama does.
And given the standing O at AIPAC and the happy squirting across the Israeli political spectrum, Obama is just playing the same old tune on Bibi’s rusty trombone.
As for me, I’m giving the “Israel finger salute.” I hope Obama and Bibi can see it, ’cause I’m doing it as hard as I can.
Was it this? [Bill Moyers in comment #69 from yesterday's book salon]:
Anyone that believes god has a chosen people is certifiably insane. Why do we let insane people dictate to our government?
O/T If you haven’t seen the 60 Minutes video with the NSA whistleblower Thomas Drake, here’s the link. Very impressive–and he faces 35 years under the 1917 Espionage Act.
Sorry, Phoenix Woman @ 21. Netanyahu did not “capitulate.” He just got desired reassurances.
And besides, David’s happiness came before the update and was specifically in response to Obama not taking “the easy and familiar way out,” capitulation. So there. :-)