A second poll confirms that Kathy Hochul is likely to win the special election tomorrow in NY-26, an upset pickup in a red district in upstate New York. Like the Siena poll, Public Policy Polling finds that Hochul has increased her lead over Jane Corwin even as third-party candidate Jack Davis drops off. In the poll, Hochul leads Corwin 42-36, with Davis at 13%. PPP doesn’t say Hochul will definitely win, but they conclude that “the fact that we’re even talking about this race is a reflection of how far out of favor the new GOP House majority already is with the voting public.”
But the biggest indicator that Corwin will lose this race is her deathbed conversion away from the Paul Ryan plan to end Medicare.
Two days before a special congressional election, a Republican House candidate unexpectedly trailing in the polls is explaining to voters that she does not want to destroy Medicare.
By the political axiom that “when you’re explaining, you’re losing,” Jane Corwin is losing.
The assemblywoman’s big event Sunday was a “Press Conference On Protecting and Preserving Medicare” at the Latta Road Nursing Home here [...]
She calls Ryan’s plan “a terrific first step” but makes clear that she will never support controversial vouchers for Medicare.
“It’s starting a conversation that we absolutely have to have, but I’m not married to it,” she said. “I certainly would entertain any proposals that would improve any of these programs. … I’ve been saying the same thing since Day One.”
She tried to make the argument that Ryan’s plan doesn’t include vouchers, when that’s basically all it includes. But it’s clear that Corwin didn’t want to be associated with the House budget, and that Hochul has done an effective job of tarring her with it.
And Corwin didn’t even vote for the plan, like 235 House Republicans did. She merely endorsed it, and she’s getting pummeled. Senate Republicans who haven’t voted for it have gotten the message. Scott Brown just announced he would vote against it, after previously saying “thank God” for Paul Ryan and his budget.
This was all known beforehand. Pollsters told Ryan and the House GOP that their budget was a political disaster waiting to happen. They passed it anyway.
No matter how favorably pollsters with the Tarrance Group or other firms spun the bill in their pitch — casting it as the only path to saving the beloved health entitlement for seniors — the Ryan budget’s approval rating barely budged above the high 30s or its disapproval below 50 percent, according to a Republican operative familiar with the presentation.
The poll numbers on the plan were so toxic — nearly as bad as those of President Barack Obama’s health reform bill at the nadir of its unpopularity — that staffers with the National Republican Congressional Committee warned leadership, “You might not want to go there” in a series of tense pre-vote meetings.
But go there Republicans did, en masse and with rhetorical gusto — transforming the political landscape for 2012, giving Democrats a new shot at life and forcing the GOP to suddenly shift from offense to defense [...]
“I couldn’t believe these idiots — I don’t know what else to call them — they’re idiots. … They actually made their members vote on it. It was completely stunning to me,” said former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a Democrat who worked hard to win over the western part of his state, which has among the highest concentration of elderly voters in the country.
I don’t know what else you can call a party who decides to alienate seniors, the only demographic moving in their direction.
…if you read the Politico article, you see that the indications are that John Boehner got forced into the Medicare privatization plan to save his Speakership. His stature in the institution trumped the stature of the institution.





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Well, as it is said: “turn about is fair play.” obama resusitated the repugs with his corporate driven bipartisanship, so the repugs are now running toward the cliff by working to destroy the social safety nets that hardly anyone opposes. Maybe this time the dims will step back and let them go so that we can actually begin to save our country and move past any bipartisany worries.
What are Hochshul’s bona fides? What’s she likely to do if she’s elected? Is she a blue dog? Where does she stand on the issues?
Unfortunately, NeoDumDems are set to sell an alternative to Ryan’s plan for Medicare, a proposal to benefit the elite, which will set up a second-class system for seniors without private insurance, where there is less care, less prevention, more waiting lines, fewer doctors accepting patients.
Does the White House favor these cuts in Medicare? Are the President’s corporate-loving advisors behind this newest compromise at the expense of the middle class?
And I wonder when some politician, somewhere, will mention that we pay a Medicare tax of 2.9% on our wages for decades before age 65? Half that tax is paid by employers and they want that lowered or eliminated.
Are the only sacred contracts in this country, contracts with banks and bondholders?
There are many other issues, even with the Medicare & Medicaid issue on the table that are not being discussed.
There is the issue that JOBS was their priority and no jobs bill has been brought to the floor. Only social issues that take the country backwards, both on the national and especially on the State levels.
Walker in Wisconsin, and many of the GOP governors are now using every gerrymandering way to supress the vote. That alone will show the voters who are really concerned about the economy, the future of their children and grandchildren.
The youth vote are aligned with the elderly on the direction of capuring the future while preserving the gains of the past!!!
Good Point. We don’t need another Half-Wit Nelson, who wears a Dem badge and votes GOP.
I’d like to know also. You live in New York. Never heard of her?
Seems that Gingrich was politically astute to be critical of the Ryan Cow Pattie.
I don’t know much about NYS politics except for the cliche (applicable to almost every state) about how dysfunctional it is. NYS is actually larger than you think: 450 miles by Tway from NYC to Buffalo. The district in question is inbetween Buffalo & Rochester. I have friends & relatives in Buffalo & Rochester but they are not very politically active, so I don’t have a read on the election.
YES! They can’t break contracts between each other, but they sure as heck can break contracts with average Americans. Just look what they did with mortgage contracts!
It is nothing more than a game or race to see how quick the country will fall apart and which one of them will be left standing with all the dough. Sick. I don’t see Mr. Hope and Change Benito planning to do a darn thing about it either. It’s business as usual where contracts to the buds and crimes against country are just fine.
The GOP and Blue Dog New Dem Plan is more job outsourcing combined with further depression of wages and
benefitsentitlements. Employer paid, administered by government or otherwise. This combined with inflated pricing on consumer goods, insurance, and education.It is how we WIN THE FUTURE aka WHAT THE FUCK?
Megacorps seek to drain the American swamp. As they make gains in foreign markets.
Like FL. Coastal people don’t know much about what goes on in the Panhandle except that it resembles lower Alabama – culturally and politically.
Yep! As long as they have customers to buy their stuff they don’t care what we call them even if it is true. Traitor! Treason! Criminals!
Yeah, then skirt all taxes by fudging all numbers and creating nice fat offshore accounts. Too bad that all seeing NSA crap can’t find all that money flitting places besides where it should be.
It’s sort of funny in a perverse way.
It shows that the Democratic Party cannot defeat the Republicans on its own. The Democrats can only prevail when the Republicans fracture and defeat themselves.
It’s planned. That is the way the Ds can hide behind the Rs to follow the same policies, the systematic dismantling of the economy to benefit the wealthy.
Another lying Republican results in the election of a Democrat who will go along with the Democratic plan of privitization of Medicare and Social Security. It’s a win win for the corporatists and the globalists.
Shades of the Baucus-WellPoint HCR bill debacle. Now the Republicans know what Paths of Glory feels like.
Will Hochul do that?
x2
She’s a Democrat. Must follow the “leader” of the Party.
It actually shows that Democrats can win when they act like Democrats.
If this was all a result of Davis’ spoilerism, then Hochul would be losing this very conservative district right now as Davis’ support is cratering. However, instead of going to Corwin, Davis’ supporters are either sitting this one out or moving to Hochul, as her lead on Corwin has grown in the past week even as Davis has faded.
They always “act” like Democrats when running but soon forget once elected. They then become just another member of the ruling elite that has their own agenda and it’s not the agenda the U.S. public would benefit from.
I wondered if you had newer information than I do, because here’s what she’s been saying on the stump:
And this:
Good “copy” does always translate into good policy.
Gee, why does this sound so much like deja vu???? (Brief clips of the word “mandate” and “Democrats” and “No public option” keep dancing in my head).
I’ll make a bet with you right now that if she wins, she votes at some time in her partial term, to cut Medicare and/or social security.
I’ll let you decide the stakes.
(EDIT: NM, I forgot the Republicans control the House. Her vote won’t be needed to pass those cuts, so she’ll be able to vote against it until her next term, when maybe her vote will count. I have no doubt that Democrats are capable of voting the right way when they’re votes don’t matter.)
Yes, but NY just switched to federal court mandated electronic voting machines this fall and since then there have already been 2 crucial state office elections in which Republicans were elected by razor thin margins. The “recounts” which were the promise of optical scanned paper ballot election systems never materialized and the Dems rolled over. As in Wisconsin all eyes are now focused on NY. But in Wisconsin the only thing definitive is that our electoral system is a mess and like the rest of our government the opposite of transparent. http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8531
Which brings up the hilarious specter of him reversing himself yet again when it gets a wholesale shellacking by voters.
Newt:
It’s radical social engineering by Ryan and the Republicans and it goes too far.
I was trapped
I mispoke
I apologized to Congressman Ryan
I wasn’t even talking about Ryan
Don’t ever show me saying that
It’s radical social engineering by Ryan and The Republicans and it goes too far
Roll the clip of me on Meet the Press where I clearly say . . .
TODAY’S REPUBLICANISM IS THE VICTORY OF THE “ID” OVER THE “SUPEREGO”
Today’s Republicans don’t believe they are their brothers keepers. They don’t believe in humanity, morality or the teachings of Jesus Christ. They don’t believe in logic, fairness or compassion; nor do they have an appreciation for the hardships of Americans less fortunate than themselves.
They think “free trade” means they are free to ship American jobs overseas….free to claim denying jobs to Americans is “good” for America. Driving jobs out of America and Americans out of their homes is “just business”; nothing “personal”.
Corporations must be given the same first amendment free speech rights as individual citizens so they can “buy” political candidates and elections, despite the fact that works against the best interests of working class Americans and diminishes their political influence.
Pollution, global warming and deforestation are all improvable “myths” of egg-head/tree hugger scientists who are “socialist” enemies of “over-regulated” capitalism. The earth, which right wing fundamentalist claim is less than 6,000 years old, will miraculously heal itself! All we have to do is “pray”.
For today’s self-focused/consumed Republicans, it’s not about right or wrong, good or bad, fair or unfair, rational or irrational. They want what they want for no other reason than they WANT it, regardless of the consequences to themselves and everyone else! Somehow, that makes “them” feel good about themselves….makes them “feel” safe….makes the act arrogantly and stupidly!
And who is going to assure the accuracy of the ballot? Did Prosser really win in Wisconsin by around 7000 “lost” votes? Who really won the 2000 presidency? The way elections are done in most states leave them highly vulnerable to fraud — and with the new electronic voting the potential (actual?) fraud is very high.
Oh, and Ed Rendell calling the Republicans idiots for passing an unpopular budget???
The same Ed Rendell that said Americans will like Obama’s health care plan once they learn more about it???
Well, Ed, I guess you do have the personal experience to know when someone’s being an idiot. Idiot.
Triangulation no longer makes sense, when one anchor is in bat guano. I’m sure Hochul can read those tea leaves as well as anyone else. What I see the electorate realizing (from the polling, and it is worth asking as lennyp did in #28 what ballot systems are in use for NY-26 to assess election theft opportunities) is that the GOP is going to do the Ryan plan regardless of what they say on the campaign trail, because it is what the Kochs, Wall Street, and Rupert want. You know, the GOP constituency.
Follow the money, it isn’t just for Watergate.
Spot on. Once you realize that Washington is Kabuki central it all makes sense. I hope I have enough popcorn to last to 2012.
Ed Rendell is a slime bucket. The arrogance just drips off him.
Too bad it is taking Harry Reid til the end of time to bring this up for a vote in the senate. By the time he does, all the republicans will vote against it. If he had dome this early, he would have caught them all voting FOR it.
Sooner or later or later, Democrats will figure out that Bob Reich is absolutely right– Medicare isn’t the problem, its the solution.
Estimates of how much would be saved by extending Medicare to cover the entire population range from $58 billion to $400 billion a year. More Americans would get quality health care, and the long-term budget crisis would be sharply reduced.
My Q is how closely does VT’s single payer plan correlate to Medicare for all? If efficiency is what the GOP really wants [it's the latest talking point] then show me ANY private plan with 3% administrative overhead with the coverage Medicare has. Just one. Trolls?